Today in the Politico, Ben Smith tracks the numerous offensive jokes — often aimed at women — that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) loves to tell on the campaign trail. Though the campaign said McCain “didn’t recall” telling a joke during his 1986 Senate race about women loving rape, the campaign insisted these offensive jokes proved McCain was “authentic” and showed “McCain being McCain”:
“He’s long said that he’s said and done things in the past that he regrets,” [McCain spokesman Brian] Rogers said. “You’ve just got to move on and be yourself — that’s what people want. They want somebody who’s authentic, and this kind of stuff is a good example of McCain being McCain.“
The mainstream media has also gushed over McCain’s “trademark wit,” declaring that a joke about blowing up Jon Stewart with an IED “makes him seem much more accessible” because “everybody likes a guy with a good sense of humor.”
Well that just explains everything, doens’t it?
July 17th, 2008 at 10:07 amMcCain being McCain? It sounds like McCain being crude and disrespectful – I guess that’s McCain.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:08 amIt would help if he was actually funny…
July 17th, 2008 at 10:11 amKinda matches his c*nt comment to McCindy. Must be that great chauvinistic charm that he exudes.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:12 amMy guess is the corporate media would call him quaint and authentic if he called Obama a n***er. Just McNimrod being McNimrod.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:12 amThe fact that all his gaffes and political in-correctness are presented as proof he’s authentic is a good enough reason for the people to turn their backs on him. He is dumb. He is wrong. He should be rejected.
How could any self-respecting woman vote for this disgusting moron?
July 17th, 2008 at 10:14 amso all obama has to do is tell off-color, sadistic, misogynistic, sexist jokes and he’s IN?
huh.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:14 amAnne Richards whipped Clayton Williams a$$ (in come-from-behind terms) in the Governer’s race here in TX back in the 90’s, and his statement that,
“women should sit back and enjoy being raped” if it’s inevitable
really, really did the dumb country-boy in.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:16 amMcDizzy can insult and offend 50% of the population, and he’s down home and folksy.
That is truly f_cked up.
If there are any women posting here today who plan on voting for McCain, I’d like to read your reasons for doing so. Seriously.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:17 amAnd they say Johnny Boy isn’t getting a free pass from the MSM?
HMMMMMM
July 17th, 2008 at 10:20 amMcNumbNuts is authentic alright. He’s an authentic senile old coot.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:21 amAnd because it happened years ago, Sen. McCain’s folks try to imply the “youthful indiscretion” angle. But he was Sen. Obama’s age at the time — would we accept that kind of nonsense from Sen. Obama?
July 17th, 2008 at 10:21 amThere are jokes which can be shared with everybody. There are jokes that should only be shared with close friends. There are jokes which should never be told and there are audiences for which any joke is inappropriate.
One would hope a Presidential candidate would be wise enough to make those distinctions. Obviously McPander Bear isn’t that wise.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:22 amIf Obama said the same shit, the Right would call for a lynching party.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:23 amThey want somebody who’s authentic, and this kind of stuff is a good example of McCain being McCain.“
Yeppers, McCain is an authentic a$$hole. His behavior shows an offensive pattern of behavior towards women. For the life of me I don’t see how any woman could, in good conscience, vote for him. Just like I never understood how Hillary cozied up to McCain after his offensive joke about Chelsea. Men who make offensive jokes about women or call them offensive names DO NOT RESPECT WOMEN.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:25 amMcCain probably doesn’t remember telling this joke because it was just one of hundreds of disrespectful jokes he has told over the years denigrating women.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:27 amAnd we were embarrassed when Bush tried to feel up Angela Merkle at the G8…
In many ways, McCain is even worse than Bush.
Anyone who find rape funny has no business representing this country.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:41 amMcCain = senile, dipshit
McCain being “McCain” = acting senile, behaving like a dipshit
I’ll buy that.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:44 amSo he never actually said it, but if he did, then it is a good example of him doing something he was sorry for and we should move on.
Makes sense to me. Except for the being sorry part. And if this is being authentic, then isn’t denigrating women something that would be considered a character flaw?
July 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am“….bomb Iran” McCain keeps slipping. Iran announced it’s considering subjecting bloggers to the death penalty.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:47 am“….bomb Iran” McCain keeps slipping. Iran announced it’s considering subjecting bloggers to the death penalty.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:47 amJust another example of his great ability to lead. Sarc/off. I imagine this will cause yet another spike in a demography.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:47 amDieNowForPeace Says
July 17th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Anne Richards whipped Clayton Williams a$$ (in come-from-behind terms) in the Governer’s race here in TX back in the 90’s, and his statement that,
“women should sit back and enjoy being raped” if it’s inevitable
really, really did the dumb country-boy in.
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That was because the various media in Texas condemned Claytie for that remark, and rightly so. I’m not looking for the same thing to happen to McCain, because the national media appear to be completely hypnotized into thinking that McCain could fart in the Pope’s face and it would just prove his “authenticity”.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:48 amJust because McSenile is an AUTHENTIC MISGOYNIST, does not mean misogyny is good.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:51 ambooosh is an AUTHENITC TRAITOR, LIAR, CON-ARTIST, FRAUD, DUNCE, FRONTMAN, STOOGE, and BUFFOON, but that does not make it good.
Patty Says:
And because it happened years ago, Sen. McCain’s folks try to imply the “youthful indiscretion” angle. But he was Sen. Obama’s age at the time — would we accept that kind of nonsense from Sen. Obama?
Patty has officially, IMHO, hit the metaphorical nail on the head. Excellent post :)
July 17th, 2008 at 10:54 amExit Stage Left Says
July 17th, 2008 at 10:14 am
How could any self-respecting woman vote for this disgusting moron?
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Well, this self-respecting woman certainly isn’t. McCain has thoroughly convinced me that he is of a caveman mindset when it comes to women — that they’re only good for cooking, cleaning, and f***ing.
McCain may meet with women’s groups and attempt to dazzle them with empty platitudes, which he probably convinces himself are effective because after all, women are rather shallow and dim creatures (snark).
Like Zooey, I would be interested in hearing from women who plan to vote for him, and why they support him.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:57 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
That was because the various media in Texas condemned Claytie for that remark, and rightly so. I’m not looking for the same thing to happen to McCain, em>
Exactly….Hard to believe the corporate sponsored media’s female employees are ok with this. However, they apparently are :(
July 17th, 2008 at 10:58 amI can easily see a President McCant continuing Bush’s policy of stupid comments/actions and generally pissing off of foreign countries with his crude sense of humor. Sorry President Markozy, don’t take it personally. President McCain smacks all the world leader’s wives asses and tells them to “run off now and make us a coupla’ sandwiches.” That just our President McCain being himself! Does he often poop himself during state dinners? Well the wetnurse who is in charge of changing him quit yesterday so he’s “flying solo” today as likes to call it. It must be all that rich French food, he’s not used to eating food that you have to chew. He’s such a maverick isn’t he just adorable?
July 17th, 2008 at 11:02 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
Like Zooey, I would be interested in hearing from women who plan to vote for him, and why they support him.
Any woman who is even considering voting for McNimrod needs to be informed of his rape jokes, as well as calling his own wife a trollup and a c**t. If that doesn’t deter them, they are brain-dead.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:03 amLest we forget these McCain “quips”:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno. from 1998 when Chelsea is only 17.
as quoted in the Tucson Citizen:
Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’
Yes, McCain being “Mcpwned”
July 17th, 2008 at 11:11 amAn authentic, knuckle-scraping a-hole!
July 17th, 2008 at 11:16 amI remember seeing Al Gore on Letterman in 2000. Letterman said I don’t know what I should call you, and Gore responded, “Oh, ‘Your Adequacy.” will do.”
In that moment I knew that all that stuff about Gore being stiff was nonsense.
McCain’s jokes are not only misogynistic, ugly and vulgar, they’re old, unfunny and weak as the sixth cup of tea from the bag.
These are the jokes of a geezer who carries them around like a fanny pack and yanks them out at every conceivable opportunity, and then laughs at them himself and sits their smugly, assured that he has ‘broken the ice,’ as they say.
Republicans, how can you possibly vote for a guy who thinks this stuff is actually funny? Doesn’t it terrify you that you’rre thinking of putting your Uncle Burgess in the White House? You know, the guy who said ‘you’re butter off without it!” every single goddamn time anybody asked for the butter? Who would say “So–workin’ hard or hardly workin’?” every single time he met you?
Doesn’t it scare you? It scares the living crap out of me…
July 17th, 2008 at 11:19 amDoes ‘troller21′ know how to follow links?
Does anyone really care???
July 17th, 2008 at 11:20 amTripplekick: Maybe you have a point. Why don’t we talk about that confession he made back in Vietnam…
July 17th, 2008 at 11:25 amTrippleKick Says:
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Quick, alert the PC police! How dare McCain make tasteless joke 26 years ago! This is huge!
ummm, TrippleKick? Let’s do the math: Seventy take away 26 equals 44.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:26 amHe should have been:
1. old enough to know better;
2. wise enought to say better;
3. good enough to promote better (as in values).
Exit Stage Left Says:
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. . . Patty has officially, IMHO, hit the metaphorical nail on the head. Excellent post :)
Humbly thankful for your kind words.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:28 amThe Update uses the phrase “tasteless joke about rape”.
The implication being that there exists a tasteful joke about rape.
“Tasteless” should refer to Clayton Williams and John McCain.
And Republicans in general.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:32 ambye troller 21,
nice try.
:)
July 17th, 2008 at 11:37 amtruther21 Says
July 17th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Do we have the name of just one person in that large group of listeners who admits to hearing this comment first hand? If it really happened, there must be an eye witness willing to step forward, or an audio tape or a video tape. Anything?
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I’m sure that if this story gained any traction at all with the MSM (which it won’t), somebody would step forward. I wouldn’t count on any kind of audio or video recording of it to exist, because 1986 was before the era of compulsively recording everything.
What’s telling to me, though, is McCain’s reaction to the allegation. If he was truly innocent of telling such a vile joke, and if he was as appalled by such tastelessness as he should be, his reaction would mostly have been along the lines of, “that is an out and out lie. That so-called “joke” is completely offensive and goes against all the values I stand for. I would never have said such a thing.” This is the reaction of — for example — people like Barack and Michelle Obama when a rumor surfaces that a tape exists of her saying hateful things about white people and using the term “whitey”.
But no — McCain instead claims the old “I don’t recall” line. This comment is the refuge of the scoundrel, the translation of which is usually “Oh, sh!t — I had no idea that was going to get out. I’d better issue something that sounds like a denial, but I’ll use weasel words in case somebody caught me on tape.”
If this is the kind of “joke” that McCain would truly never tell, then he should be d*mn sure he never told such a thing, and he should say so.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:38 amAnd what the 25% knuckle draggers don’t get is . . . .that is our point as well.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:38 amLike 40 year old Henry Hyde having an affair and confessing years later, Johnnie Mac’s rape jokes were a youthful indiscretion.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:38 amRepublican boys will be boys.
Look at Bush for the epitome of that.
the campaign insisted these offensive jokes proved McCain was “authentic” and showed “McCain being McCain”
He’s authentic alright. An authentic misogynistic, warmongering, third Bush term asshat.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 17th, 2008 at 11:47 amdoesn’t calling her tubby and stupid and implying no measure of consenualagreement isn’t in anyway gender bias…
So Tripplekick:
July 17th, 2008 at 11:48 amWanna talk about that vietnam confession? Do you think he was telling the truth then?
but trippledick,
you know there’s
no such thing as a
funny conservative.
*
they try, but they’re
just not funny.
@
here’s brad stine to
prove my point.
#
good luck.
:)
July 17th, 2008 at 11:51 amArghhh, that salty old seadog should have his mouth washed out by Captain Hook. Does he French-kiss his Mama with that mouth?
July 17th, 2008 at 11:53 amTrippleKick Says
July 17th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Apparently sexual manipulation of a stupid 20 year old tubby girl and vulgar acts performed with Cigars and what not in the oval office are fine, but a rape joke 26 years ago, well that simply appalling! Give it up people, making a gross joke before the PC commissars came to power is not a big deal. You’ll hear much worse rape jokes from Sarah Silverman on HBO.
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1. Clinton wasn’t raping said “tubby girl” — it was consensual sex. Admittedly vulgar, but consensual. There’s a big difference between that and rape.
2. If anybody claimed that Clinton’s sexual escapades in the Oval Office were “fine”, it was very few people. Most of us weren’t happy with his indiscretions, but we didn’t think they were worth impeaching him over.
2. Nobody is suggesting that McCain be impeached over his rather sick sense of humor. Or even recalled.
3. Any joke that denigrates women (or people of other races, religions, ethnicities, etc.) tells us something about the character of the person telling it. That’s the point of this thread.
4. Sarah Silverman isn’t running for president.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:54 amSorry, my numbering on my last post is out of whack. I guess I need more caffeine…
July 17th, 2008 at 11:55 amRemember everybody how the framing works in today’s upside down media environment: If you tell rape jokes, you are ’serious’ and manly – someone we would all like to have a beer with. If you recoil at the same joke, you are branded as ‘unserious’ and a DFH, not able to defend America is a ‘funny’ joke bothers you.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:56 amOops – is a ‘funny’ joke bothers you.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:57 ams/b IF a ‘funny’ joke bothers you…
Kibbletrick, One thing I look for in a president is someone who doesn’t find rape funny. I’d trade that buttload of authenticity for a little class anyday.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:57 amtruther21 Says:
No rape joke is funny, no matter who tells it. But where are the eye witnesses? I’d still like to hear from just one who heard this first hand.
oh troller21,
are you being “pc”?
set him straight
trippledick.
:)
tell him your best rape joke.
i’m sure you’ve got a million
of them.
@
good luck.
*
July 17th, 2008 at 12:00 pmtruther21 Says
July 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Where are all of the first hand accounts by eye witnesses? tapes? videos?
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Give it a rest — I already answered that. If the allegation is true AND it gets widespread coverage in the MSM, witnesses will come forward. As far as taped documentation, it’s entirely possible none exists because not everything was taped in 1986 (unlike today, where every little thing anybody does winds up on YouTube).
Believe it or not, whether McCain actually told that joke or not isn’t the point of this thread. The point is the media’s reaction to the allegation. Instead of being appalled, they are patting him on the back like a good ol’ boy. This just continues the parade of evidence that the media are giving McCain a free pass.
Unlike the media reaction to the Michelle Obama alleged “whitey” remarks. Which both Barack and Michelle denounced and denied in far stronger terms than the weasel response of “I don’t recall”.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:02 pmTripplekick:
July 17th, 2008 at 12:03 pmI thought you thought a joke from years back was irrelevent? Wanna address the confession thing or not?
TrippleKick Says:
misshusseinmolly,
It was just a joke and not an actual rape like Juanita Broadrick accuses Bill Clinton of doing to her. When you think of all the serial womanizing that Clinton did, and then how much Clinton is protected by the left, this fake outrage about a bad joke is rather silly.
your turn troll21
ask for pictures,
witnesses, evidence,
etc.
*
set trippledick straight
about being honest.
&
when trolls attack each other.
this should be fun.
:)
July 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm“McCain campaign: McCain’s rape joke is ‘a good example of McCain being McCain.’”
Stupid is as stupid does.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pmIf Obama had been accused of saying these types of things against women, the sh!t would hit the fan so quickly, you would need a poncho to stand clear of it.
So instead of our troll talking about Bill Clinton (geez, give it a rest, loser) he should be asking himself why McCain gets a pass with the press over this stuff and Obama would have been hounded by it.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pmEveryone just loves a smarmy, hypocritical bastard!
July 17th, 2008 at 12:10 pmQuaint how the conflicting and self contradictory statements made by Ms. Broaddrick escaped Tripplekick’s notice…
July 17th, 2008 at 12:12 pmStratRat Says
July 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
So instead of our troll talking about Bill Clinton (geez, give it a rest, loser) he should be asking himself why McCain gets a pass with the press over this stuff and Obama would have been hounded by it.
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Because the double-standard that exists with the media when it comes to McCain and Obama is the point of this thread, and the trolls can’t refute it. This is why they have to set up other straw men to knock down.
Although I never thought I would see Clinton’s sex life used to defend McCain’s pattern of denigrating women.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:12 pmThey dumped Clayton Williams because his rape joke was “tasteless”. Williams should learn to tell tasty, authentic rape jokes like Johnny BomBombs.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pmTripplekick:
July 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pmAre you afraid of the confession question?
McCain is about as funny as the guy who drops napalm on women and children – oh wait, he was that guy.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pmTrippykick, I think Bill Clinton was creepy too, and tried to deny it. We need a president who’s proud of being creepy, right, bro’?
July 17th, 2008 at 12:17 pmTrippleKick Says:
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It was just a joke and not an actual rape like Juanita Broadrick accuses Bill Clinton of doing to her.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I’m sure you will produce a signed Judgment of Conviction any moment now.
Until then, STFU.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:17 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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When all else fails, bring up Clinton. No wonder the reich-wingers can’t win elections.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
They’re just greasing the skids for 8 years of blaming Bush for everything.
Of course, Bush has f_cked up so much, it will actually be true.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Sorry, my numbering on my last post is out of whack. I guess I need more caffeine…
It is the first time we’ve seen you in a two-two.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:23 pmIts unbelievable that this simple point seems to be lost on you.
This is getting tiresome – again. You need to please move into the topic of the thread or shove off.
Bill Clinton is gone – never to return. He is not the subject of this topic or a defense to your future annointed king McSame’s documented attitudes towards 55% of this countries citizens (women). The right side continues to throw up Bill Clinton as some sort of ever-ready defense/excuse for their own awful behavior – but the never discuss THE BEHAVIOR, only compare that behavior to past deeds.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:23 pmTrippleKick Says:
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Matt,
Calm down little mister. My point is clearly valid. Your selective outrage has been exposed for exactly what it is, fake and partisan. Regarding consent, it seems you are the one confused. Juanita Broadrick claims she was raped, and Bill Clinton is a convicted liar.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Clinton is NOT a convicted rapist. Lying is different than raping. You do understand that, don’t you?
Of course you don’t…
July 17th, 2008 at 12:26 pm4. Sarah Silverman isn’t running for president.
Would be fun though.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pmWow. If that crude barstid ever gets that “authentic” in front of me, I’ll spit in his eye.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pmI love the picture on your link, Dr Matt. :D
July 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pmTripplekick: Please refer to your own comment @38:
July 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pmWhy bother to go on and on about something you feel is not relevent? I offered an alternative but you have ignored it. Why not give up on a topic you feel is not relevent and address my question?
TrippleKick Says:
Matt,
Calm down little mister. My point is clearly valid. Your selective outrage has been exposed for exactly what it is, fake and partisan. Regarding consent, it seems you are the one confused. Juanita Broadrick claims she was raped, and Bill Clinton is a convicted liar. Believe who you want. However, don’t dare for a minute defend or dismiss Clinton’s serial abuse of women while pretending to be outraged at McCain for some dumb joke 26 years ago.
Clinton, like many successful politicians, is a womanizer. Calling it “abuse” is pretty funny, since all the evidence points to these events being mutual. All your scorn for “abuse” sounds particularly thin given your description of Monica Lewinsky; you demonstrate such a clear appreciation of women with that “dumb fatty” remark.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pmHey Trip,
What about McDepends boinking McCindy while he was still married, then ‘conveniently’ getting the timeli8ne wrong and being called on it?
Is that the kind of ‘manly man’ compassionate guy you want as your leader?
Oh, wait …… it is exactly the kind you want. Typical Repug morality tesy, I guess.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pmI followed all of the links and didn’t find
Of course, cause you’re a fcuking idiot.
I found 3 names, but I’m not doing any “homework” for a flunkie home student, mmmkay?
LEARN TO READ, moron.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pmDribbledick, Ronald Reagan was accused of date rape while he was president of the Screen Actor’s Guild by a young actress. You sure you want to keep walking down memory lane? How about Bush Sr. sending his girlfriend out of the country so she couldn’t testify against him. And if you’re going to defend McCain’s chivalry justify his serial indiscretions that led to him getting engaged to his second wife while still married to his first wife who waited bravely for his safe return. You know how, “They also serve …
July 17th, 2008 at 12:31 pmHey what did you expect from a man who thinks bombing Iranian civilians is hilarious?
July 17th, 2008 at 12:31 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
4. Sarah Silverman isn’t running for president.
Would be fun though.
I’d vote for her in a heartbeat.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pmbye trippledick,
try not to tell any
rape jokes on the
way out the door.
*
troller21,
qua es vos?
$
good luck.
*
July 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pmShayne Says:
And if you’re going to defend McCain’s chivalry justify his serial indiscretions that led to him getting engaged to his second wife while still married to his first wife who waited bravely for his safe return. You know how, “They also serve …
By all accounts, McBush was a major womanizer when he was a hot-shot pilot.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:35 pmThe heck with that, kick him in the nuts.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:36 pmGeorge W. Bush is the biggest liar ever to sit in the Oval Office. I guess that makes him a rapist.
TrippleDork…?
July 17th, 2008 at 12:40 pmGummitch he was a major womanizer but no hot-shot pilot. Unless they were trying to crash all those planes. Especially the one that kill 100 men.
Oh and Triplelicker, what about that blond lobbyist McCain was doing a couple months ago on that corporate plane? His campaign workers were the ones who were concerned about that little scandal getting out but apparently it doesn’t matter to you bootlickers.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pmShayne: he has nuts…??
:o/
July 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pmJust Flag tripplekicked-in-the-head, he is just a Mr. Pee troll
July 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pmcolonclone anywayAfter the 10th time Johnny BomBombs had the hershey’s syrup cleaned off his crack by his cell mate, he decided to just lay back and enjoy it.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pmTwo sets, above and below the neck.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOh and have you seen Juanita Broderick, triplebootlicker? Bill Clinton wouldn’t touch her with YOUR D*CK. See, now that’s a FUNNY joke.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:58 pmWhere dud the dribblinghick go?
July 17th, 2008 at 1:00 pmTripplekick:
July 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pmAfraid or just a pussy? Come on man was McCain telling the truth in Vietnam or wasn’t he?
Longevity is Sen. McCain’s strong suit.
Longevity does not equal excellence, wisdom, intelligence, promise or even cleverness.
He should be forced to watch tapes of himself trying to be clever, repeatedly contradicting himself, referring in present tense to countries long expired, and “oooooh — not wanting to discuss” issues like health-care as it concerns the coverage of Viagra vs. birth-control pills . . .
. . . although I’m sure he’s already shared with close associates his own snappy retort on that point.
And a note to those whose favorite line is:
“. . . but, but, but CLINTON . . .”
You’re right. He behaved abhorrently.
Now, can we please get back to the current presidential election?
July 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pmIn what part of the south do you live tripplehick? A fifty-three year old woman who tries to look like a Barbie doll. In what part of shitkickerville is that attractive. Because in some parts of the country intelligent women who graduate from prestigious universities with law degrees and dress they’re age are considered attractive. Probably not in your trailer park though.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pmIn the work a day world, a joke about rape would very possibly lead to sexual harassment proceedings.
But now I see that I can make these jokes and just say it was “just me being me” and I’ll be off the hook.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pmRe; 117 Flagged joke – While I don’t appreciate the joke, it does seem on a par with McCain’s rape joke. So will the McCain Campaign protect the flagged joke ? After all, it was just the poster being the poster.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pmtruther21:
July 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pmApparently tripplekick can’t handle my question regarding Mr McCain’s Vietnam confession, can you?
The ape/rape joke was given in front of a group of citizens in Arizona and was retold by many women who were there and were unahppy about it while campaigning for the senate. There are plenty of newspaper reports on it but you pathetic rethugs can just close your eyes and pretend it never happened.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pmBut joking about women getting raped or how ugly a child, Chelsea Clinton, now that’s funny.
Flag this you dipsh*t trollscr*tum.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pmThat’s funny. A troll calling Shayne “Shayme.”
How many times has that happened now? **yawn**
July 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pmI just called up the neighborhood rapist and gave him Trippleprick’s address. And I suggested he wear his McCain mask.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pmNice one, ScaryBrownHusseinChick. Even trolls need something to look forward to.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pmtruther21 Says
July 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
MSM outlets usually look for first hand reports BEFORE they run with a story. They usually don’t run the story and then hope for someone to “step forward.”
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Really? Then how do you explain the MSM treatment of Michelle Obama’s alleged “whitey” remarks?
The point here is whether the media are treating McCain and Obama equally and fairly. And they are not. McCain’s offensive sense of “humor” (the rape joke isn’t the only instance of that), his temper, his flip-flopping — all given a pass by the media. Yet every single misspeak by Obama is cause for the press to have a field day.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pmtruther21:
July 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pmI sort of figured that would be your solution. Weak as it maybe it does dodge the bullet for now…
BTW ScaryBrownHusseinChick, since you added “Hussein” to your name, you’re even more terrifying. :-D
July 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pmtruther21 Says
July 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pmJuly 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
MSM outlets usually look for first hand reports BEFORE they run with a story. They usually don’t run the story and then hope for someone to “step forward.”
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Chinese drill for oil off FL coast?
Here’s a link liar21 or CT to the original article from 1986 in the Tucson, AZ, newspaper. But you’re probably too lazy to read it just like you were too lazy to look it up.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pmhttp://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tucsongorilla.pdf
What’s his address, the first trailer on the right?
July 17th, 2008 at 2:14 pmI got yer Whitey tape right here…
July 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ooBhnjl5v4
Truther21, Just to clear things up, it was a joke about McCain’s dysentery, and the fact that he was well cared for by a fellow POW who was much more of a hero than Johnny.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pmI can see how you misunderstood and were offended.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:41 pmtruther21 Says:
Do we have the name of just one person in that large group of listeners who admits to hearing this comment first hand? If it really happened, there must be an eye witness willing to step forward, or an audio tape or a video tape. Anything?
It was published in an Arizona newspaper. If McCain had not said the joke, he would have sued that newspaper for libel, and probably won.
I doubt that anyone wants to come forward and say they heard him say that joke. Contrary to modern myths, most people do not want their 15 minutes of fame (shame). Most would rather remain anonymous. I know if I had heard McCain say the joke, I wouldn’t admit it because I would not want all the ensuing media attention. I can see it now, a hot shot reporter sticking the mic in my face and saying “How did you feel when you heard the joke”.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pmTruther21, Are you offended by any of McCain’s jokes?
July 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pmtruther21 – I have a question for you. Have you heard McCain deny he told the joke? I haven’t. All he has said is “I can’t remember telling that joke”. It seems to me if he had never told that joke or one like it he would have said “That’s absurd, I never told that joke and I never would tell a joke like that, it’s sexist and hurtful to women”.
But, what we hear from the McCain crowd is that telling foul jokes like that just makes McCain a good guy.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pmIt’s all part of McIIIrd’s phony ass, ‘good old boy’ beer buddy bullshit.
Only problem is, laughing about rape jokes is Neandertal, so it fits McIIIrd to a tee.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:56 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says
July 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
truther21 – I have a question for you. Have you heard McCain deny he told the joke? I haven’t. All he has said is “I can’t remember telling that joke”. It seems to me if he had never told that joke or one like it he would have said “That’s absurd, I never told that joke and I never would tell a joke like that, it’s sexist and hurtful to women”.
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Eh, don’t waste your breath. I said pretty much the same thing to untruther21 way back at post #45, and he has yet to explain why McCain hasn’t denied the allegation. Instead, he just keeps up his incessant whining for witnesses, as if this makes some kind of point.
July 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pmThe next time I crack a joke about dysentery I promise it will be tasteful.
July 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pmStupid Thought: Lets say an ethnic comic started “being themselves” and made jokes about killing whitey. Would McCain appreciate the humor ?
July 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pmTruther21, This may seem like a stretch to you, but one point I was trying to make through tasteless humor, was that a guy who has endured the loss of control and the humiliation that McCain has could’ve developed enough empathy to not enjoy telling rape jokes. Instead he seems oblivious to or likes other people’s pain.
July 17th, 2008 at 4:40 pmBTW, my first comment on TP (a few months ago) was a tasteless joke about McCain, and it was quickly moderated off the thread.
July 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pmAnd BTW, a POW getting raped isn’t automatically worse than a non POW getting raped.
July 17th, 2008 at 4:49 pmtruther21 Says
July 17th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
So, did anybody come up with that first hand eye-witness account yet?
(crickets)
Didn’t think so.
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OK, I’ll bite. This is your gazillionth post asking for witnesses on record. What the h*ll is your point? We respond to you (showing you amazing respect for a troll) and you continue asking. Do you think that a lack of named witnesses on record proves anything?
BTW, the reporter who wrote the 1986 article WAS contacted by Huffington Post. Here’s their results of that contact:
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The Huffington Post reached out to the original reporter in that story, Norma Coile (who after talking to multiple sources months after it was told wrote about the response to the rape joke in the Tuscon Citizen) to find out if she thought it was true.
“I’m not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke, but something was said. Some joke involving a rape and ape was said. Enough women repeated it to me at the time and the McCain campaign had a non-denial denial,” said Coile, now with the Arizona Daily Star. “It came after his ‘Seizure World’ joke, in which he referred to the [retirement community] Leisure World as Seizure World… I just think it reinforced this idea that John McCain is humor-challenged. Whatever his qualities, he seems to have a tin ear for how these jokes will go over.”
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Are you suggesting that just because Norma Coile didn’t name names that the joke never happened? Are you suggesting that all the women who repeated the incident to her were making it all up? Are you suggesting that Norma Coile made up the whole thing and is still sticking by her story today? Do you have any explanation for why McCain hasn’t denied it — instead weaseling out with a lame “I don’t recall”?
Or do you just think that you “win” something if you’re annoying long enough?
By the way, any further posts from you will be flagged, unless they have something more intelligent to say than “neener neener neener you don’t have any witnesses!”
July 17th, 2008 at 5:42 pmBrava, MissHusseinMolly!!
Sic ‘em!!
July 17th, 2008 at 6:54 pmtruther21,
This is a blog, not a court of law.
I just thought I’d point that out.
You are welcome.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 amBeing a very recent victim of sexual assualt here is what I have to say:
http://rape-and-sexual-assault.blogspot.com/
July 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm