I think the swift boat vets for truth were successful and viewed as credible simply because they actually served with John Kerry, therefore their criticism appeared to be legitimate rather than partisan.

Actually, they never served on the same boat at the same time.

Not to mention that Kerry himself was accusing his own countrymen of atrocities and throwing his medals over fences and what not.

And My Lai never happened? Open your eyes and crack a history book.

You see how the trolls hang onto even the most documented untruth of the last election? You see how they re-cycle their lies, repackage them for later use – even though they have been debunked and laid bare. Proven BS, but here are our trolls trying once again. Silly trolls.

You see how their minds work? Throw enough stuff out there and someone, somewhere will believe it. Normally the believers are the Low Information Voters (LIV), but to them, that is ok too.

To the right side, lies have absolutely no expiration date.

There’s no telling because there weren’t any. However, how many lives were saved because the young John Kerry had the intergrity to stand up and speak truth to power rather than parrot the warmonger line? It’s a shame he lost that courage during his time in DC, otherwise, he’d be president now, not withstanding the switftboat liars.

And the whole SBV thing was an amateurish smear attempt. It was well timed and regrettably effective, but that source has been burned. Over and over again. Claims of channeling Martin Luther would hold more credibility.

I think the swift boat vets for truth were successful and viewed as credible simply because they actually served with John Kerry, therefore their criticism appeared to be legitimate rather than partisan. Not to mention that Kerry himself was accusing his own countrymen of atrocities and throwing his medals over fences and what not.

You need to do some reading outside the wingnut sources. Just like truther21, your regurgitation of the Swift Boat lies reveals a lack of attention. You can start here.

And specifically here.

Only one member of SBV actually served with John Kerry on Kerry’s boat and that is Steve Gardner.

However, neither he NOR any other member of the so-called “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” (SBV) served with John Kerry during the incidents that led to KERRY’S PURPLE HEARTS, BRONZE STAR AND SILVER STAR!

The remaining members either never served in Vietnam when Kerry was there (a notable example is their key spokesman and Nixon-patsy John O’Neill) or served in other boats or other positions that would provide them little or no first hand knowledge about Kerry’s service. Of those who actually served under/with Kerry in his boat, 11 out of 12 fully support Kerry!

So, trollies, if that’s true, please explain why it was acceptable for reichwing to smear John Kerry and denigrate *his* service to this country during the 2004 presidential campaign.

I’ll be waiting.

Nah. Just getting old, and curious as Hell. And I don’t think we’ve tangled when I’m angry. I get MUCH less polite.

troller21 Says:

thanks db. I’ll try, but there are so many of them.

See what I mean? No recognition of reality.

July 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
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No – you’re thinking of Stephen Colbert, who won the Peabody for parodying O’Reilly. I suppose one could argue that O’Reilly won the Peabody by proxy, but I won’t.

upside,
I’m not a Republican. Please, don’t be a simpleton who is reduced to left vs. right party bashing. I just think the hysteria over this non-torture/torture is ridiculously out of proportion to the amount of (non)outrage expressed towards the terrorists by some leftwing communities.

June 30th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

But they’re unconventional. They embrace non-logic and treat opinion the same as we treat facts.

Nevertheless, we’ll try to stay strong in your absence.

As for Jesse Jackson? I think he’s a predatory lightweight who has done more harm to his alleged causes than good. He appears to have done more to hold back African Americans than advance them. It’s just my opinion but I think Jesse would have faded into obscurity in 1968 if he had not been splattered with MLK’s blood.

And Tripplekick? I have a suggestion. Send an email to the TP staff that goes something like:

“Dear TP”.

I think a story about Jesse Jackson’s alleged use of the N-word would make a good thread. Do you folks have any additional insight on this issue?”

Thanx for your time etc.

And until such time as TP makes a statement about Rev. Jackson? It’s idiotic to assign them a position which mirrors your own. That’s called projection. It’s unproductive and unhealthy. Here’s a link to an online book that tells all about it. You’re welcome.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

RandomChaos Says: “Tell me again how many Journalistic awards FUX News and O’Liely has recieved?”

::::::::waving hand wildly in the air:::::::::::
ME, me pick me!

IS the answer ZERO?

July 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
+Didn’t he win the prestigious peabody and bullwinkle award?(gr)

I think what you meant to say in regard to grampy voting for torture is, ” he was against torutre before he was for it”.

For the rest of us, the issue is cut and dried: he voted against legislation banning waterboarding. plain and simple

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