O’Reilly: ‘Do I Have To Buy You Dinner Before You Use The Birth Control?’
O’Reilly: ‘Do I Have To Buy You Dinner Before You Use The Birth Control?’
Yesterday, Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly agreed with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and argued that it was fair for insurance companies to cover Viagra but not birth control because “birth control is not a medical condition”:
OK, listen up. Viagra is used to help a medical condition. That’s why it’s covered. Birth control is not a medical condition. It is a choice. Why should I or anybody else have to pay for other people’s choices? Do I have to buy you dinner before you use the birth control?
Watch It:
Although O’Reilly may not know it, preventing unwanted pregnancies is not just another “choice.” It is “central to good health care for women.” According to NARAL, 98 percent of women “use some form of birth control during their reproductive years” to “control the timing and spacing of their pregnancies, which in turn reduces the incidence of maternal death, low birth weight babies, and infant mortality.”
Failure to cover birth control also places women at an unfair disadvantage “by singling out for unfavorable treatment a health insurance need that only they have.” According to the National Women’s Law Center:
Failure to cover contraception forces women to bear higher health care costs to avoid pregnancy, and exposes women to the unique physical, economic, and emotional consequences that can result from unintended pregnancy.
With opinions like these, O’Reilly won’t have to worry about buying anyone dinner.
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I wish O’LIElly’s mother had chosen to use birth control.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:44 amMaybe he thinks women should just use loofahs for birth control before sex with a spongeworthy guy
July 18th, 2008 at 11:44 amDoes this guy actually know any women? Oral contraceptives are frequently used to treat conditions not directly related to birth control including cramps. What a moron.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:45 amThe “argument” needs to be reframed for the wingnuts to get onboard:
Insurance companies pay for birth control becuase it’s a helluva lot cheaper than paying for delivering a baby (with potential medical problems) – and thereby increases their profits making the robber barons richer.
So that’s good news, Billo, you sick, perverted, sexual predator.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:45 amYou just KNOW that O’Reilly has permanently scarred and bleeding knuckles.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:47 am#3 paleolib:
As one who works for the insurance robber barons, you are absolutely correct about the dual usage of birth control.
I forgot, as my head was filled with $$$$ and profits in #4:)
July 18th, 2008 at 11:48 amWow. This may be the most idiotic comment from falafel boy, EVER!
1) No need to discuss what TP already posted, rather eloquently, regarding the cost of unwanted pregnancies.
2) Not all oral contraceptives are for birth control. Someone should tell vibrator boy that many teens use them because of dysmenorrhea, to control those who experience gawd awful menses.
3) If not being able to pop a boner is consider a “condition”, then why the hell is Viagra not covered on Medicaid? Oh, that’s right, we don’t want the poor to experience joy, do we???
Typical male chauvinist pig. Coverage (and pleasure) for men, to hell with women.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:50 amExplain to me again how this mucking foron is still on the air????
nobodys in the mood for falaefel anyway.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:50 amOK, listen up. Viagra is used to help a medical condition. That’s why it’s covered. Birth control is not a medical condition.
No. YOU listen up. There are many women who use birth control pills for medical reasons because they regulate homones that cause severe acne, severe PMS symptoms, severe periods, severe menstrual cramps, etc.
God damned misogynistic pig. Makes me wish there were a Hell for him to live as a habitially pregnant women with 5,000 loaded and screaming babies for him to habitually feed, diaper and bathe…
July 18th, 2008 at 11:50 amWith opinions like these, O’Reilly won’t have to worry about buying anyone dinner.
Well, we know being married won’t stop him.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:52 amWith opinions like these, O’Reilly won’t have to worry about buying anyone dinner.
– - Never underestimate the vast supply of Monica Crowley/Michelle Malkin/Laura Ingraham-types out there. (I leave out Coulter because I’m not sure what that amorphous, asexual thing is.)
July 18th, 2008 at 11:53 amSo does Billdo’s insurance pay for the falafel pervert sexual predator’s coolaid?
Probably.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:54 amIf O’Reilly has a daughter, I feel sorry for her.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:54 amthe trolls
sheepishly turn
away.
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July 18th, 2008 at 11:55 amFourteen Defining Characteristics of Fascism
#5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.
July 18th, 2008 at 11:55 amWhy should I or anybody else have to pay for other people’s choices?
the modern day repuglicRAT mantra…
Do I have to buy you dinner before you use the birth control?
and, on stage, the repugs sense of responsibility…
or is it just a “guy thing”? …
either, it’s an assumption that “the birth control” is the woman’s responsibility only…
so, billo, guys, should you CHOOSE to forego the birth control when you CHOOSE to have sex, you could be held responsible for more than a dinner… know what i mean?
July 18th, 2008 at 11:59 amCal Malenky Says:
Maybe he thinks women should just use loofahs for birth control before sex with a spongeworthy guy
Kudos for the Seinfeld reference :)~
July 18th, 2008 at 12:00 pmI would like to dunk a basketball, but I am too short.
My shortness is a “Medical Condition” so I guess my insurance should pay for it?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pmOK, listen up. Viagra is used to help a medical condition.
Since when has old age been known or referred to as a “medical condition” ?
Those like McStupid use Viagra for un-natural benefit(s) ; but that should be paid for be the US taxpayer ?
Why ? His empty-headed wife can’t afford the boner pills for him ?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pmPregnancy isn’t a medical condition?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pmMisogynist(.)
July 18th, 2008 at 12:05 pmIt is normal for men to experience erectile disfunction as they age. It isn’t a “medical condition” for a 70+ year old man to have a hard time getting an erection. It is part of growing older.
Insurance companies should in fact be denying coverage for Viagra, which is very over-prescribed btw, since it is for a lifestyle choice and not a true medical condition. (Now, a 20 or 30 something man who has ED would indeed have a medical condition that Viagra could help. So there should be exceptions for those who truly need it.)
July 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pmI agree with Guido@22, Viagra and its ilk are much more likely to be used for recreation than not. This is dogwhistle pandering to religious fanatics.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pmSlightly off topic, but the perverted O’Rielly made me think of it:
Back in the early 1980’s, I used to handle disability claims for an insurance company covering the ACOG (American College of Obstetrics).
I took over a claim from a Gynecologist who was on disability for a “mental condition”. Upon reading his case, I came to the conclusion he was NOT disabled due to a “medical condition”, but was simply an O’Rielly in training: he lost his job because he was sexually assaulting his patients, and could not find work. I cut him off benefits immediately (mainly just being an ahole, I admit it) stating his “disability” was not “medical” related (he claimed some DSM code I can’t remember) – the guy was a sick criminal, imo, and I wanted to f*** with him.
He sued, my company (a Gang of Five company with plenty of dough) caved because they were scared to go to court. Looking back, I think we would have lost – but I wanted to put this scumbag through as much hell as I could.
I think he left the medical profession and did find a job with FOX News.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pmWhy should I or anybody else have to pay for other people’s choices?
Damn right Bill’O. Why are my tax dollars going to religious institutions? Why should I pay for other people’s choices? Bill has brought up a very good question.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pmBirth control is a health issue. Viagra is for fun and games.
I appreciate that Viagra has been a boon to men with ED, and I think men should try to wrap their tiny minds around the boon birth control has been for their women.
Present male company excepted, of course. (not the idiot trolls)
July 18th, 2008 at 12:11 pmMy shortness is a “Medical Condition” so I guess my insurance should pay for it?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
i don’t think ‘pencil-dick’ qualifies as a medical condition
July 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pmbigtime p, your “Medical Condition” is not your shortness, it’s your mental condition. Please get check-up, your insurance will pay for it.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pmAs a male who chose to take charge of the birth control issue via vasectomy, I’m here to report my insurance company paid for all but five dollars of it. Every guy I know that has had a vasectomy was covered by their insurance. Therefore, I find it reprehensible that insurance companies don’t want to cover women on birth control, whether it’s to prevent pregnancy or to treat a medical condition.
On another note: Thankfully, Billo the Clown does not speak for all males. Some of us have actually reaped the benefits of evolution.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pmJebus. What a colossal IDIOT.
Screw you, Billo.
Uh…or not.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pmOh, and for the record, Billo…?
You won’t die if you don’t have sex. Therefore Viagra is, like others here have already stated, a RECREATIONAL drug.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:21 pmBill’s regular dinner partner, Rosie Palm, doesn’t require Viagra.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:21 pmMCMetal Says: Those like McStupid use Viagra for un-natural benefit(s) ; but that should be paid for be the US taxpayer ?
I love all the Republicans on socialized medical care knocking it for teh rest of us.
If their health care were bad, we’d hear about it, and they’d reject it.
With McCain’s income, taking health care from the government is unethical. He can afford his own, but clearly, the plan he gets is MUCH better.
Socialized medicine for all!
July 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pmO’Liely is a plagiarist and hack: Jack Cafferty earlier on CNN:Jack Cafferty: Viagra Is For A Medical Condition, Birth Control Is A “Lifestyle Choice”. O’Liely later:OK, listen up. Viagra is used to help a medical condition. That’s why it’s covered. Birth control is not a medical condition. It is a choice. And this comment is disgusting: Do I have to buy you dinner before you use the birth control? And this: Why should I or anybody else have to pay for other people’s choices?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:26 pmGuess what Billo, Medicaid pays for condoms. You Bill are the one who needs to “Listen Up”. Gawd he is a jerk!
Tawdry Says:
bigtime p, your “Medical Condition” is not your shortness, it’s your mental condition. Please get check-up, your insurance will pay for it.
Naw, it’s a lifestyle choice: big-p chooses to bang his head against a wall and that is what makes him so stoopid.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:26 pmExit Stage Left Says: Every guy I know that has had a vasectomy was covered by their insurance. Therefore, I find it reprehensible that insurance companies don’t want to cover women on birth control, whether it’s to prevent pregnancy or to treat a medical condition.
Operative word being ‘guy’. We live in a country that does not consider women to be equal to men. As a result, these people want to rule our reporoductive systems because they think we are unable. And then they complain about all the things that result from their misogyny.
Best bumperstick I have ever seen said: “If you can’t trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child?”
July 18th, 2008 at 12:27 pmBill-O needs be caught in a dark alley on a dark night and have the living sheeit beat the fuuuk right outta his smirking ass. Jelly his knees? Knuckles? Make him type with a stick tied to his forehead? THAT’d look good on Faux…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:27 pmO.T. – -
Anyone see Dan Rather on “Morning Joe” today? He acknowledged that Jesse Jackson had “paved the way for an Osama bin Laden.”
Not Rather, or anyone on the MSNBC set corrected him. Ever. THAT’S why the cover of The New Yorker matters so much.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pmIt’s fine for mccain to hold the position that insurance should cover viagra and not birth control.
He should be made to defend this position at every opportunity, and the Obama campaign needs to make sure that every woman within the sound and sight of his campaign understands mccain’s position, with all the video evidence.
Let slappy paint himself into more such corners in his endless efforts to pander to whoever happens to be his current audience.
This is an old man like bob dole who feels it is “his turn” to be president, for no other reason than a boundless sense of entitlement. “This country owes me!”
Bull.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pmit just occurred to me…
insurance companies have no problem covering a very popular hormone drug for female menopause, the PREM-PRO drugs…
even after having been linked to cancer…
huh.
but then, so have oral contraceptives…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:33 pmWouldn’t it be much easier to enact this agenda if that pesky Nineteenth Amendment were overturned?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pmDo I have to buy you dinner before you use the birth control?
I’m curious. Has any female commenter on TP ever been drunk enough consider such thing?
Is there enough alcohol on this planet to induce a woman to date Billo?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:35 pmWe can have a bunch of men with hard-ons running around, and no women for them because they’ll all be abstaining due to lack of birth control!
July 18th, 2008 at 12:35 pmBadmoodman Says:
Bill’s regular dinner partner, Rosie Palm, doesn’t require Viagra.
Heh…OR birth control. ;o)
~A
July 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pmI always figured birth control pills and Viagra went hand-in-hand, so to speak.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pmZooey:
No.
Yuck. I’d have to be unconscious – AND tied up.
~A
July 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pmNot only do women make 85% salary doing the same job as a man in this country, but we’re also expected to cover our own health care prescriptions.
Six months and two days to go until this limp and tiny pen*s administration is gone!
July 18th, 2008 at 12:43 pmSome interesting tidbits (or not) regarding ED drugs:
Before Pfizer stumbled across a blue pill that caused boners, they patented a drug called Caverject, which was an injectable, stored in the refrigerator. Imagine, if you will, that you had to, when the mood struck, painfully inject your flaccid nether regions with a “cold” drug. Not likely, right? Wrong! When I was in retail, the pharmacy dispensed it quite routinely.
Viagra is used as a recreational drug among the younger generation, to help reduce refractory periods, especially the Rave crowd.
ED drugs were covered under Michigan Medicaid, until certain people started throwing a fit that the state should not pay for these drugs, deemed not necessary. I’ll leave it up to you to imagine who those “people” were.
Senior citizens are the generation with the most increase in STD’s, due to the mass usage of drugs like Viagra, and little or no education provided when prescribed.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:43 pmI’d have to be unconscious – AND tied up.
Annie,
The GOP/Republiscum dictionary for men defines that as “a willing sexual partner – female, as opposed to willing sexual partner – male (consult bathroom stall techniques for further information)
July 18th, 2008 at 12:44 pmSo women have the privilege of paying health insurance premiums that are dedicated, in part, to pay for Viagra, but not birth control?
Where’s the outrage?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pmDo I have to buy you dinner before you use the birth control?
This particular sentence makes absolutely no sense. Assuming we are talking about oral contraceptives (o.c.), which may or may not be covered by insurances, one SHOULD realize that the actual process by the drug not to cause pregnancies requires 1-2 months of continuous daily ingestion. One does not just sporadically take o.c. when the mood arises.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:50 pmTherefore, falafel boys scenario of trying to get into some teenie boppers pants without consequences is flawed.
Just sayin….
DRxJ Says: Senior citizens are the generation with the most increase in STD’s, due to the mass usage of drugs like Viagra, and little or no education provided when prescribed.
Another valid and interesting point. The Cons are always claiming to be against anything in which they claim man is ‘playing god’, yet that is exactly what Viagra does…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:51 pm#55 — Good point.
Wouldn’t a true Christian male accept the presence or absence of sexual arousal as a declaration of God’s will and leave it at that?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pmI wonder how he feels about medical marijuana coverage by insurers…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmAn insurance company should be allowed to decide what it covers and what it doesn’t. Find a company that covers the medication you need and buy their premium.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pmIf ED drugs were used only by men with the dysfunction it wouldn’t be the most advertised product on television.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:08 pmSpoken like the typical idiot who has no health insurance and then goes to an emergency room when he’s ill and is a burden to us all.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmAh, now I know why men consider their right to Viagra somewhat sacred — not being able to get it up is a “medical condition”!
Yet, a woman seeking birth control is on her own because birth control is a “choice”!
Diabetes is a medical condition. High cholesterol is a medical condition. High blood pressure is a medical condition. Crohn’s is a medical condition. Parkinson’s is a medical condition. You get the idea.
But I’ve never heard of anybody whose life or health was at risk just because they had a limp noodle. Isn’t the desire to get an erection just as much of a choice as the desire not to get pregnant?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmI think its time Mr. O’Reilly’s sexual harrassment lawsuit which was filed by Andrea Mackris, is released to the public. This idiot should no longer be a voice that should be listened to by such a wide audience. He’s made his millions time to cut his n$#! off.
RIP
July 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Here’s the thing. We have to gloss over the “prevents pregnancies” concept. These guys are NEVER going to accept it.
What needs to be pushed more is that birth control pills help quite a few other potential health issues for women that have NOTHING to do with them having sex.
I have known plenty of girls taking them for hormonal reasons, reasons related to how horrible their periods were, reasons related to ovary issues. I can’t imagine how many other potential applications this has.
Meanwhile, viagra does nothing but get a man hard. And if this man needs help doing that, it’s reasonable to believe he’s not going to be making babies anytime soon anyway. So it’s completely a pleasure and self esteem issue, it’s not a pain issue.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pmAn insurance company should be allowed to decide what it covers and what it doesn’t. Find a company that covers the medication you need and buy their premium.
Except with a pre-existing condition, that’s extremely difficult to do.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pmAlejandro Says
July 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
An insurance company should be allowed to decide what it covers and what it doesn’t. Find a company that covers the medication you need and buy their premium.
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You say this casually, as if shopping for health insurance is much like shopping for auto insurance.
Health insurance has priced itself out of the budgets of most ordinary people, if they have to pay for it themselves. This is why the majority of those of us who are fortunate enough to have health insurance at all have it because we are able to get it through our employer. And most employers offer one plan with two choices — take it or leave it.
So what you’re really saying is, “find an employer who offers a plan that covers the medication you need and get a job with them.” A rather pompous, impractical, and short-sighted position to take.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pmBilldo- “Why should I or anybody else have to pay for other people’s choices?”
Excellent point! Now since the war in Iraq was the Shrub, the Dick and the neocons “choice” shouldn’t they pay for it? I’m sure Haliburton, KBR and Blackwater can cut a check, you know out of patriotic duty or something.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:19 pmBut pompous, impractical, and short-sighted is what they do.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmNo worries covering birth control. Many women need this simply to regulate their periods. Much better than an abortion, clearly.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI have health insurance, thank you. And I actually did this. I changed policies when my prescription plan didn’t cover a certain allergy medication. I paid a little more for the policy, but I saved money on the medication.
I didn’t say insurance companies were saints. They actually suck a lot. But forcing companies to cover what they don’t want to makes them increase everyone’s premiums.
You think forcing insurance companies to do this or that isn’t short sighted and pompous?
The solution is to get their lobbyists out of the asses of your representatives in Congress. This is the root cause of your high premiums. A stronger marriage between corporations and the government is not the solution.
Maybe if people would stop being morons for 2 minutes and stopped voting for the corporate candidates in the 2 corporate parties we wouldn’t be living in this fascist state. Yes, I know the system is rigged, but if enough people eventually wake up and realize how they are being screwed, then the system might just become un-rigged.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmI certainly hope insurance companies don’t pay for Viagra for unmarried men. And I hope that pharmacists are opting out of filling Viagra prescriptions for unmarried men. I mean, really, what a moral failing of our society that we give unmarried men permission to have sex.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pmAMcG773 Says:
This is a sarcastic post ………right?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pmDude, I had a best friend who couldn’t be off birth control pills because otherwise she’d bleed to death.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pmNo medical conditions, my ass.
misshusseinmolly Says:
Ah, now I know why men consider their right to Viagra somewhat sacred
….some men…..
there, I fixed it for ya ;)
Some of us middle-aged guys don’t even need it :)
July 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmAMcG773 ~ your sarcasm is exquisite. The ‘religiosity’ who attempt to give pharmacists the ability to ‘morally’ not dispense oral contraceptives – should also apply to unmarried males receiving Viagra.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmAMcG773 Says:
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I mean, really, what a moral failing of our society that we give unmarried men permission to have sex.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I doubt there are healthy adult, unmarried men out there who are waiting for permission to do ANYTHING.
Get over your shit.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:48 pmExit Stage Left Says:
Some of us middle-aged guys don’t even need it :)
True dat!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:08 pmThough I can brag that I still have the libido of a 17 year old, thank gawd I don’t have the mind of one (HI, Mr.P!)
I’ve jokingly stated that my wife would like to invent the anti-Viagra!
Alejandro Says
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
You think forcing insurance companies to do this or that isn’t short sighted and pompous?
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Not pompous, and not short-sighted, but I can see that many would have a problem with a private company being told how to run their business — sort of like the government telling McDonald’s they had to offer hot dogs along with their hamburgers.
However, the insurance (ALL insurance — health, auto, life, etc.) industry is already regulated as to what they MUST cover, what they MAY cover if they wish, and what they are not permitted to cover — as well as how their actuarial and risk tables are set, how much profit they are permitted to make (to keep the sharking to a minimum), and in what ways they are permitted to discriminate against potential clients.
My point was that covering ED drugs for men while not covering birth control medication for women is immoral and sexist. It was the mindset that Viagra is for a medical condition while birth control pills are for a choice that I found pompous — especially coming out of Bill-o’s mouth.
As far as private insurance companies go, I’d just as soon see the whole system scrapped and replaced with a National Health system such as they have in England. Or Canada. Or Sweden. Or France.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pmThis is a sarcastic post ………right?
Yes, to point out the inherent hypocrisy. It’s almost enough for me to want to go back to school to become a pharmacist just to ask men to prove that they are married before dispensing Viagra. Our country wrings its hands and moralizes about women’s virginity and procreative resposibilities without a thought to judge a man’s sex life. Just the same old double standard.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmO’Reilly is simply outrageous. How this man ever got as far as he has in his career is a mystery to me. As a woman, I am disgusted and outraged. If this man had any education, any humanity, any decency, he would know that that birth control is not only a choice but necessary for thousands of American women who will bleed out constantly if they don’t take BIRTH CONTROL to control the bleeding in addition to anemia (which my friend has and takes birth control to help control). Also many women need it for severe cramps-to the point where you feel like you can’t move cramps and have to vomit cramps- during menstruation. I’ll make a deal with O’Reilly. How about he has a period for a week and experiences the headaches, bloating, nausea, cramps, back-aches, mood swings, and hot flashes and then he can decide if birth control may be necessary for him to use for a medical condition. Or better yet, how about O’Reilly be stripped of all his money and his career, have sex with a woman who is not on birth control and end up with an unwanted child whom neither of them can support! But really what self-respecting woman would screw that guy?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSure but imagine all those imaginary woman who have abortions for fun…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pmMajesta – there are PLENTY of women that probably would screw Bildo because he has lots and lots of money. Which is what this country is all about. Insurance companies are run by MEN, so of COURSE Viagra is available. When WOMEN run the insurance companies, then you’ll see birth control part of the mix. But that ain’t gonna happen. We’ll have universal health care before men are no longer in control of the insurance companies.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pmtruther21 Says
July 18th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Half of all unintended pregnancies result in abortion. Provide the coverage for birth control and there will be less abortions. That’s enough motivation for me to want to see insurance coverage for birh control.
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On that point, we agree.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:42 pmZed,
First of all, if you are on a group plan through work, you are being subsidized by two things; your employer picking up part of the premium, AND a discounted premeium for being in a group plan. Try to get insurance as an individual, you won’t like the results.
And secondly, if we went to a one payer system, like most European countries have, it would cost us LESS per person for total health care then it does today.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pmI own my own business and pay $12,000 per employee a year for health insurance. Discount my ass. That policy doesn’t cover birth control or well child care. I don’t know if it covers Viagra but it probably does.
Payments for Viagra aren’t just sexist they’re ageist too. Anybody who’s ever worked election day will tell you the elderly vote way more than any other group. That’s why Obama might be so good for the country by just getting younger people out to the polls they may vote for other referendums that are important to us all. Seniors get their social programs but they vote down every other program and call it “socialist” just like our trolls here.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:30 pmBillo the Clown doesn’t have to ever worry about buying a real “woman” anything. His “girls” have been attached to his wrists since conception. But even a guy like him can’t go by yanking and the shameful remorse that follows after and has to give in to his Viagral impulses to feel the other sex’s finer parts…which for him, cost him a few months pay.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:33 pmShayne,
Exactly, you are subsidizing your employees premiums! Just as I said. They pay much less than if they were to buy that same coverage on their own.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmLike the late James Brown sang ” Hey baby its a man’s world” Viva Viagra.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pmOkay… lets inject some perspective. Most insurance companies I deal with DO cover birth control. Yes this is a pretty important issue, but there is a MUCH more important issue that needs to get some attention.
Carriers are rolling out new 4-tier pharmacy plans. This is basically a backdoor way of externalizing the cost of high cost meds to the insured with ridiculous coinsurance costs.
I know it isn’t as ‘bowchickabowwow’ as talking about birth control, but this should really hit the news cycle. It’s a lot more important.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080714/LIFESTYLE03/807140330
July 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pmBO don’t care – all he needs for a good time is a phone and some KY.
And maybe a falafel.
July 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pmhow stupid can they get? It’s all sex. Women’s medical condition can last her whole live, the dumbasses.
So why isn’t medicare paying for hair restorer cream and whatnot, that’s a medical condition too.
Gawd, mcchimpy is paying for his townhall meeting audience like he does with his msm. because this doesn’t make sense for this dumbass to run for president.
I know the real world is laughing at us.
July 18th, 2008 at 6:07 pmBildo did some Viagra once — everything above his collar got all swelled up ‘n ugly ‘n blotchy.
And stayed that way.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:31 pm“O’Reilly: ‘Do I Have To Buy You Dinner Before You Use The Birth Control?’”
Bill, I read that four times and I’m still not sure what it means. Does it mean that you think any woman should put out to you even before you buy her a sandwich at the Dairy Queen? That a woman shouldn’t expect anything from you but bad sex? Whatever it means, Bill, I know it’s derogatory…because you have trouble saying anything that isn’t derogatory, but you really need a brain surgeon to examine your head before the wiring comes completely entangled and nothing you say makes sense.
No, I will not be a guest on your show.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:31 pmExcuse me but why is VIAGRA advertised to the older man, the man who already has had children. If GAWD had wanted him to continue having sexual realtions, he would have made his pee pee work well all his life. It is OBVIOUS that GAWD does not want these men to continue having sexual relations. In the advertiements, it seems that the “enjoyment” is the woman’s, not the man’s. Or, I should say sexual partner, which brings me to another point, I hope HOMOSEXUAL men cannot get the VIAGRA. GAWD would not want that either.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:39 pmTypically myopic. Bill doesn’t care about problems that he doesn’t have to deal with.
Guys should get free Viagra, women should have to pay for the results of the Viagra.
Perhaps the makers of Viagra should subsidize birth control expenses.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:39 pmObviously, he never heard about countless woman and children dying in childbirth before the availability of the pill. No man ever died because he couldn’t get an erection.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pmUsing your dick for sexual pleasure is a choice too :\
July 18th, 2008 at 8:07 pmCan you imagine, in a former life Bill O’Reilly was a school teacher? Look, this man is so ignorant so far off the mark, that it would be funny if not so pathetic.
Birth control pills are not just used to prevent pregnancy. They are used for many other medical reasons as well. Viagra is used for several things. The most important seems to be so someone who, for physical or psychological reasons, cannot do the deed. If one is covered so should the other. And by the way, if we are going to not cover the pill because some male legislators say no, no. Then fella’s they may stop drug stores from selling CONDOMS. It is all related now.
Surely if they are stopping the sale of birth control pills in some pharmacies, then they should stop selling condoms as well. Since the government is now back again in womens reproductive issues, then if they are now saying, that conception begins when the sperm touches the egg at that instant that is when life begins. Even though doctors say it is not.
This is what legislators are now being asked to consider in one of this idiots ideas for a new law. Legislate the bedroom now. It is too bad that the pill was not being used when Bush’s mommy was doing the deed. Just think of the trouble we could have been saved. This latest idiocy reminds me of when Bill Frist, the so called doctor looked at a ten minute film of Terri Shivo and said she was alive and cognizant of her surroundings. After 17 years she was aware. Does anyone remember the autopsy? Half her brain was missing and the other half nearly gone and non functioning. Bush flew back from wherever, practically in his PJ’s to sign a law. Turned out all those doctors who had examined her over a 17 year period, some of the best and her husband were right.
I don’t want these barely functional barely awake legislators doing the medical war dance for political reasons. If viagra is covered then so should birth control be covered. And if as Bush wants, they outlaw the sale of the pill and we go backward to the early 20th century medically speaking then I want condoms outlawed too.
As for Billo, he should stick to phoning his aides and using the loofah for sex. He seems to have telephone sex and ideas for the use of the loofah down pat. He should stick to that. He is an idiot.
My God!! Aren’t most of us fed up by now. Fed up with the weekly scandals and lunacy on the right? Tired of where this country has been taken. And tired of where the Republicans want us still to go? This is the most unhappy, and screwed up country I have ever seen. If we don’t wrestle what is left of it and turn it around, it will soon be too late. I am tired really tired.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:37 pmOkay, the flat statement was retarded. That’s totally obvious. Medical uses for BC go waaaaaaaay beyond just preventing pregnancy.
Unfortunately I have to point out that I should not have to pay for birth control because a woman wants to have sex. It’s not a requirement for their lives to continue. Same for Viagra for men. Just because either wants to have sex, doesn’t mean my insurance should be higher.
July 18th, 2008 at 10:11 pm“Generalist” is a good name for you.
Wanker.
July 19th, 2008 at 12:13 amIn watching not just the Viagra commercials, but the Cialis and the Levitra ones as well…they all share three themes:
1. The obvious…old guys can’t seem to get it up and all the site gags of accidental discharge, excitement etc.
2. The old guys are usually married to really attractive women, so one wonders what killed the romance in the first place?
3. The guys’ variations on “interesting” sexual activities are so freakin’ BORING and laugh out loud funny, that I believe the people who wrote these commercials eventually use the products after the fact, haven’t gotten much ever and/or use the tried and true cliches for general production.
These commercials make me feel that if I ever get to the point in my male life where I need to pop a pill to get a hormonal thrill, that my life has reached it’s end in some regards and maybe I need to accept that if I want to feel like I’m a 22 year old again, I’ll do so in the next life…if that’s what to come.
July 19th, 2008 at 2:41 am“Unfortunately I have to point out that I should not have to pay for birth control because a woman wants to have sex. It’s not a requirement for their lives to continue. Same for Viagra for men.”
Same could be said for prenatal coverage. Having kids is a choice. And it’s not something that’s going to harm your health or kill you if you don’t get to do it. So why should my insurance rates be higher for someone to birth children?
Fact is: pregnancy is a medical condition. It comes with a host of nastiness that gets glossed over in favor of “Oh, you’re having a little bundle of joy.” The very act of carrying another human being to term can cause:
And those are the *normal* things that go along with pregnancy.
A woman should not have to fight with the government, politicians, religious pundits, insurance companies or people who think “they just want to have consequence free sex” in order to have access to a medication that does, in fact, keep or improve the quality of her life by preventing a “natural” occurrence.
July 19th, 2008 at 1:25 pmStrange; just last night I was talking to my wife about her birth control and its importance to her health, and not just our family planning.
She said her doctor told her taking the Pill is helping with the onset of perio-menopausal symptoms. In other words, this particular birth control and its endocrinology most definitely has health advantages besides just controlling birth.
Republicans are full of shiite, as usual, and oh-so-anxious to control the rest of us so the Baby Jesus doesn’t come down with a dose of the vapors. And Bill O’Reilly pays, all right. That’s the only way that idjit would EVER get laid.
July 19th, 2008 at 1:56 pmTypical O’lielly cause celebre since his target audience is the 80 plus set. His grandma viewers dried up years ago thus, they don’t care and his ocotogenarian grandpas see themselves as 20 year old casanovas chasing granny around in his walker all fueled up on viagra.
July 20th, 2008 at 7:40 amThe Republicriminalssohbet don’t get a pass on this one. They have either liedBedava mp3 indir about conditions on the ground, or, they lied while attacking anyone who has proposed doing exactly what the Idiot in cetChief did today.
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