I am not saying a Revolution is desirable, I am saying it is inevitable if we continue down the path we are upon. That’s a big difference.

Violence and war are poor excuses for solutions and they are doomed to fail unless you want domination…..

I’m not sure what you guys want but I don’t want the same things.

Besides, there are only a handful of you that are willing(you say you are) to take to the streets with your guilliotines on wheels and met out your own special type of justice to whoevever YOU decide warrents it.

I am against that course of action. It seldom has worked out in history. Look at the revolution in 1917 in Russia. It was a workers revolution against an Emperial Ruler…..it gave them Stalin….

Look at the French revolution that you quote as if you think it is a real solution. France was decimated for 100 years.

Look at the peoples revolution in Cuba. Castro wasn’t such a great guy after the dust settled either.

Do you really advocate this as a solution? Seriously?

Do you really want a reality check? I don’t think you have thought this all the way out.

Katy said it best….it is shortsightedness.

I’m not so sure that I’m ready to let it go yet, nor am I sure that we’re at that point where I believe that America *is* dead.

America is most certainly gravely ill; most likely on life support, and I haven’t much hope that she will recover.

However, I still have hope (there’s that word!) that we *can* change things (there’s that other word!) – and I’m not willing to say “Screw it” and stop being a part of the system.

That’s why I remain committed to Obama – in spite of the anger I feel over what I (and lots of you) saw as a betrayal in his “yes” vote on the FISA bill. But I, like Shayne, got an answer that, if it didn’t calm my fears completely, it at least got me to the point where I can reserve judgement.

And right now, people, unless you believe that our system is broken beyond repair and all that’s left for you is to say “Screw it” – our only other choice is to make damned good and sure that Obama gets elected in November — along with a Democratic House and Senate so we can start undoing all the damage done by the Chimperor and his criminal cronies.

If Obama doesn’t get elected, or he proves to be just another corporately owned poltician…well, then we’ll have to go to Plan B: the Second American Revolution.

~A

The way around the realities we are facing is the same route taken during the French Revolution: genocide committed against the aristocracy. I am not advocating such a course of action, but it is inevitable, when things get bad enough for enough of the masses.

The wheel has already been set in motion for a third or more of the global population to not survive the next 50 years. Nothing manunkind can do will stop that from happening. Roughly 5% of the global population has amassed such vast wealth that they believe they can weather the storm behind their fortresses.

Those of us who criticize Obama here are nothing compared to those who manipulate the masses through the mainstream media.

Do you want a reality check? Ask Obama and McCain under which circumstances would they authorize the use of microwave or plasma weapons against civilian populations. Ask if they have any contingency plans should Yellowstone erupt in a supervolcano. Ask what infrastructure plans they will initiate to move coastal cities to higher ground over the next 50 years. Ask how they plan to deal with the health crisis of superbugs created by years of antibiotic use; and the effects of chemicals and genetic engineering on our food supply.

While our government can eavesdrop on us at will and we argue over FISA and other crimes against the Constitution, the above issues and more go unanswered. No one wants to look at the hard questions. We’re far more interested in Britteny’s lack of undergarments.

While those on the Right and those on the Left are becoming more and more polarized, the average ‘merican doesn’t give a damn. They will continue to make do with less and less, as long as they have the illusion that all is right in their world. ‘merican Idle gives them that illusion…

sorry about the rant….

“Can you assure us that your wife doesn’t hold one of the accounts in question in the UBS Lichtenstein inquiry?”

(**crickets**), (***chirping***)

Maybe what everyone should be spending their time on is finding a better candidate..I’m not saying Obama is a bad person, I’m saying he’s NOT GOOD ENOUGH…Not even close.

For year’s now I get the same thing, now is not the time….Every time I said if not now when?…..Well we are way past time…Perhap’s another loss will wake the uninformed voter’s up, who know’s….

I do know if Obama looses it will not be because of our 6 vote’s, it will be because he condoned law breaking and betrayed us and the law of the land..It will be because people like Ron Paul, Mkinne(sp), Nadar look better standing with the constitution…It will be because the voting machine’s still are not fixed, the war is going to continue and many other reason’s…I have read lately all the old time dem’s have left him
because he has made a hard right, well, there ya go….

Shun us, call us troll’s, what ever…Just remember those of us that are critical and unmoving now are the very one’s that helped get all these right’s in place and keep them….I will never vote for a man or woman who is working to dismantel those right’s…..Blessings~Peace…Sorry for the length..

The Real Reason For McCain’s Friday Night Phil Gramm Dump

http://drinkliberal.blogspot.com/2008/07/real-reason-for-mccains-friday-night.html

amazing…

Kay Says:

1/21/09:

Day ONE: Hold Obama’s feet to the fire.

And to a point we will have the ability to do that. But if McCain wins all is lost.

It isn’t HOW you play the game it’s whether you WIN or lose.

with more patience and good will than i have…

thanks to them.

Day ONE: Hold Obama’s feet to the fire.

Great. But could you wait until then?

Obama has justified this by stating that the government should have the ability to defend the American people from terror attacks and that the newer version of the FISA bill allows a secret court, not the president, the right to decide who can be spied on.

Kay, this is from your comment. The new bill says they have to use the FISA court instead of the administration spying on everybody. That was Obama’s reason for voting for it so that at least they’d have to use the FISA court instead of ignoring that step like they had been doing. They spying was going on totally unregulated.

Briseadh na Faire Says:
If you hold to the belief that to criticize Obama is to undermine him, then you are really no different than those who hold that to criticize Bush is to undermine him.

i haven’t read anything that suggests anyone believes that…

… it isn’t about the criticism… gripe and groan all you want…

but when it comes to the talk of 3rd party or otherwise wasting votes, there is no excuse.

it’s selfish and self-serving.

narrow-minded and short-sighted.

but, mostly selfish.

.

What! You want to be called the “t” word?

Kay Says:
The ACLU has issued a statement calling the law unconstitutional, while others have pointed that this law is an assault on fundamental rights such as the first and fourth amendments.

It will be challenged. Who do you want appointing the next supreme court justice? mccain or Obama?

Day ONE: Hold Obama’s feet to the fire.

The ACLU has issued a statement calling the law unconstitutional, while others have pointed that this law is an assault on fundamental rights such as the first and fourth amendments.

According to Mark Klein a person who worked for AT&T for 22 years, the government built secrets rooms in communication companies across the U.S. and have been monitoring countless citizens in all forms of internet communications.

Numerous democrats have voted for the bill, among them Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Obama voted for the bill, although he had promised to oppose the bill if it guaranteed immunity to the telecommunication companies. Obama has justified this by stating that the government should have the ability to defend the American people from terror attacks and that the newer version of the FISA bill allows a secret court, not the president, the right to decide who can be spied on.