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	<title>Comments on: 60 percent of Americans want a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.</title>
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		<title>By: ctcadguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctcadguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says: 
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Just as 70% of Americans oppose sending more troops to Iraq, a like number don’t think such an increase would help stabilize the situation there, the poll suggested.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=552062

70% of people opposed the surge in 2007. Today, there seems to be some consensus that the surge has help to stabilize the situation.

Just because we poll people about what they think, doesn’t mean that we can use that information to make good military decisions.&lt;/em&gt;
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&quot;Silly Dittoheads and their Silly thoughts that this so called Surge Worked&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

The Surge has nothing to do with the violence coming down. It was the Bribes that worked and the fact that the Insurgents know Obama will be Pres. and that shortly we will be outa of there. 

Pretty obvious to them and the non-Dittohead non-fascist non-war-mongering evil types like this poster.

The Bloodlust of the Dittoheads is quite scary - no better than the Nazi&#039;s.

&lt;strong&gt;Thank God there are no evil fascist Dittoheads in heaven! &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p>Just as 70% of Americans oppose sending more troops to Iraq, a like number don’t think such an increase would help stabilize the situation there, the poll suggested.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=552062" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=552062</a></p>
<p>70% of people opposed the surge in 2007. Today, there seems to be some consensus that the surge has help to stabilize the situation.</p>
<p>Just because we poll people about what they think, doesn’t mean that we can use that information to make good military decisions.</em><br />
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&#8220;Silly Dittoheads and their Silly thoughts that this so called Surge Worked&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>The Surge has nothing to do with the violence coming down. It was the Bribes that worked and the fact that the Insurgents know Obama will be Pres. and that shortly we will be outa of there. </p>
<p>Pretty obvious to them and the non-Dittohead non-fascist non-war-mongering evil types like this poster.</p>
<p>The Bloodlust of the Dittoheads is quite scary &#8211; no better than the Nazi&#8217;s.</p>
<p><strong>Thank God there are no evil fascist Dittoheads in heaven! </strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110116', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

backup,
What kind of man promises to not ring a bell, only to proceed to ring that bell promising to unring... IF you elect him? 

ANSWER:
Status quObama!

But seriously, 
How can he undo his Senate vote should he be elected to the presidency? HOW? Please explain, I&#039;m eager to listen... 
Wouldn&#039;t this &quot;undoing&quot; require one of two things...
1) A Congress, void of Obama, passes legislation to rewrite what he voted for...
2) A Supreme Court ruling that his vote was UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Either way, you prefer to hedge your bet for a man who screwed your civil protections in order to achieve a &quot;COMPROMISE&quot; of your Civil Rights... Like Bush is already doing to all of us WITH Senator Obama&#039;s support... NO?

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<p>backup,<br />
What kind of man promises to not ring a bell, only to proceed to ring that bell promising to unring&#8230; IF you elect him? </p>
<p>ANSWER:<br />
Status quObama!</p>
<p>But seriously,<br />
How can he undo his Senate vote should he be elected to the presidency? HOW? Please explain, I&#8217;m eager to listen&#8230;<br />
Wouldn&#8217;t this &#8220;undoing&#8221; require one of two things&#8230;<br />
1) A Congress, void of Obama, passes legislation to rewrite what he voted for&#8230;<br />
2) A Supreme Court ruling that his vote was UNCONSTITUTIONAL</p>
<p>Either way, you prefer to hedge your bet for a man who screwed your civil protections in order to achieve a &#8220;COMPROMISE&#8221; of your Civil Rights&#8230; Like Bush is already doing to all of us WITH Senator Obama&#8217;s support&#8230; NO?</p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109672', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

&lt;strong&gt;Q U E S T I O N:&lt;/strong&gt;

When 60% of the population are ignored...

... WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY IN THAT?

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<p><strong>Q U E S T I O N:</strong></p>
<p>When 60% of the population are ignored&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY IN THAT?</p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109662', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.electoral-vote.com/

says that Obama leads in electoral votes: 292-219
(Strong leads:  207-83)
projected Democratic lead in Senate:  57-43
projected Democratic lead in House:  239-196</description>
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<p>says that Obama leads in electoral votes: 292-219<br />
(Strong leads:  207-83)<br />
projected Democratic lead in Senate:  57-43<br />
projected Democratic lead in House:  239-196<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109384', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cjmartinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjmartinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those 60% of Americans are in their last throes, if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those 60% of Americans are in their last throes, if you will.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim.  Despite the poll results, I think the Middle East/Europe trip will be a huge win for Obama.

He looks presidential.  It answers some of the questions about whether he is ready for prime time.  He looks like he can hold his own.

It was a risky trip.  So far, he&#039;s risen to the occasion.  I believe it bodes well for Barack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim.  Despite the poll results, I think the Middle East/Europe trip will be a huge win for Obama.</p>
<p>He looks presidential.  It answers some of the questions about whether he is ready for prime time.  He looks like he can hold his own.</p>
<p>It was a risky trip.  So far, he&#8217;s risen to the occasion.  I believe it bodes well for Barack.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109190', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>StratRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, buddy stop. 55% here, 65% there, 34% over there, 23% from somewhere else, 87% from another place.

You like fractions, we get it. Tell me: Is there a fraction small enough for you to describe the chances of McCain winning in November?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, buddy stop. 55% here, 65% there, 34% over there, 23% from somewhere else, 87% from another place.</p>
<p>You like fractions, we get it. Tell me: Is there a fraction small enough for you to describe the chances of McCain winning in November?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109160', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne.  I watched your link.  I&#039;m aware that the Iraqis are promoting the idea for a timetable, but this is also from the 21st.



&lt;blockquote&gt;BAGHDAD — Face to face with Iraq&#039;s leaders, Barack Obama gained fresh support Monday for the idea of pulling all U.S. combat forces out of the war zone by 2010. But the Iraqis stopped short of actual timetables or endorsement of Obama&#039;s pledge to withdraw troops within 16 months if he wins the presidency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-07-20-2873054939_x.htm

I think we&#039;re debating how the U.S. will withdraw.  I don&#039;t think Iraqis (leadership) have asked the U.S. to get out.

We obviously have a stake in what happens to our 150,000 troops.  If we can&#039;t agree with the elected leadership in Iraq on a timetable or bases or any other issue, the Iraqi leadership can tell us to leave.  When they do that, we should go.

That hasn&#039;t happened yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne.  I watched your link.  I&#8217;m aware that the Iraqis are promoting the idea for a timetable, but this is also from the 21st.</p>
<blockquote><p>BAGHDAD — Face to face with Iraq&#8217;s leaders, Barack Obama gained fresh support Monday for the idea of pulling all U.S. combat forces out of the war zone by 2010. But the Iraqis stopped short of actual timetables or endorsement of Obama&#8217;s pledge to withdraw troops within 16 months if he wins the presidency.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-07-20-2873054939_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-07-20-2873054939_x.htm</a></p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re debating how the U.S. will withdraw.  I don&#8217;t think Iraqis (leadership) have asked the U.S. to get out.</p>
<p>We obviously have a stake in what happens to our 150,000 troops.  If we can&#8217;t agree with the elected leadership in Iraq on a timetable or bases or any other issue, the Iraqi leadership can tell us to leave.  When they do that, we should go.</p>
<p>That hasn&#8217;t happened yet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. Liberal Traitor

Simple logic my friend.  The Commander in Chief says that anyone who wants to get out is a traitor.  60% of the people say they want out.  Logical conclusion - 60% are traitors (and were probably not traitors before the Bush WH.  

I say we use this to say that the Bush WH has lowered our morals to the point that 60% are traitors.

And you&#039;re right, I am partly toungue in cheek about this.</description>
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<p>Simple logic my friend.  The Commander in Chief says that anyone who wants to get out is a traitor.  60% of the people say they want out.  Logical conclusion &#8211; 60% are traitors (and were probably not traitors before the Bush WH.  </p>
<p>I say we use this to say that the Bush WH has lowered our morals to the point that 60% are traitors.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, I am partly toungue in cheek about this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5109066', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne A. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne A. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Barack’s lil’ shimmy to the right was both tactically brilliant and spiritually uplifting to those of us who think that Jack Murtha is a pile of manure. Now if he would admit what he knows to be the truth, that the Petraeus surge was the right thing all along.&lt;/em&gt;

Look, you little Jean Schmidt wannabe, you have no basis at all for calling Jack Murtha &quot;a pile of manure&quot;.  Your entire post was nothing but a display of ignorance and arrogance on your part.  And now it&#039;s the &quot;Petraeus surge&quot;?  I thought Bush was supposed to be commanding the military (and doing it very badly, I might add.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Barack’s lil’ shimmy to the right was both tactically brilliant and spiritually uplifting to those of us who think that Jack Murtha is a pile of manure. Now if he would admit what he knows to be the truth, that the Petraeus surge was the right thing all along.</em></p>
<p>Look, you little Jean Schmidt wannabe, you have no basis at all for calling Jack Murtha &#8220;a pile of manure&#8221;.  Your entire post was nothing but a display of ignorance and arrogance on your part.  And now it&#8217;s the &#8220;Petraeus surge&#8221;?  I thought Bush was supposed to be commanding the military (and doing it very badly, I might add.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108858', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room.?

Is America planning to maintain PERMANENT MILITARY BASES in Iraq?

Have Bush Announce that we WILL, and watch the Surge Stop Working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room.?</p>
<p>Is America planning to maintain PERMANENT MILITARY BASES in Iraq?</p>
<p>Have Bush Announce that we WILL, and watch the Surge Stop Working.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108852', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

BTW, do we have political reconciliation in the U.S.?&lt;/em&gt;

Yes are coming very close. George W. Bush has united 75% of the US against him, and the Republicans will be fully marginalized Nov. 4.</description>
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<p>BTW, do we have political reconciliation in the U.S.?</em></p>
<p>Yes are coming very close. George W. Bush has united 75% of the US against him, and the Republicans will be fully marginalized Nov. 4.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108840', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne A. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne A. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;
Nettles Says:

July 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm &lt;/em&gt;

Wow, this post was filled with a good deal of the more uneducated kind of thinking displayed by the right wing.

&lt;em&gt;Face facts, Milqtoast family: We Are At War, a war that many Americans still want to win.&lt;/em&gt;

Congress has not declared war.  We are currently occupying a nation in violation of international law because of a war we started in violation of international law.

&lt;em&gt;Face facts, cowards: the surge worked and is continuing to save lives every day.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, we already explained at length how this is a lie.

&lt;em&gt;Post after post whines and weeps for Bush to be sent to The Hague, compares Bush to Milosevic, Mugabe, even Hitler.&lt;/em&gt;

Bush &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; committed war crimes with his illegal war, so, yes, he should face a trial at The Hague.  I&#039;m not going to compare him to Mugabe or Milosevic, and the only comparisons to Hitler that could be made would have to talk about how his grandfather helped fund Hitler&#039;s war machine.  (You do know that is a fact, don&#039;t you?)

&lt;em&gt;Half the posters here probably think the Bush administration knew about 9/11.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, if there weren&#039;t so many facts that support this notion, maybe it wouldn&#039;t have such legs.  I won&#039;t go so far (as some have) as to say that Bush (or his people) helped &lt;em&gt;plan&lt;/em&gt; the attacks, but they sure seemed ready to take full advantage of them.  Probably just a coincidence.

&lt;em&gt;Face facts, Lyndon Larouche-bags: The Iraq Liberation Act was written in 1998 by the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION because it was the right thing to do.&lt;/em&gt;

The Iraq Liberation Act, introduced by Republican Ben Gilman, did indeed state:
&lt;blockquote&gt; Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you read the bill, however (you can find it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), you will see that NOWHERE does it state that this regime change should be accomplished &lt;em&gt;militarily&lt;/em&gt;.  (For such an action would violate international law.)

And, as someone has correctly pointed out, when we did finally get the weapons inspectors in there, they found that Iraq no longer had any WMD and had destroyed them all as they were supposed to do after the first Gulf War.

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Nettles Says:</p>
<p>July 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm </em></p>
<p>Wow, this post was filled with a good deal of the more uneducated kind of thinking displayed by the right wing.</p>
<p><em>Face facts, Milqtoast family: We Are At War, a war that many Americans still want to win.</em></p>
<p>Congress has not declared war.  We are currently occupying a nation in violation of international law because of a war we started in violation of international law.</p>
<p><em>Face facts, cowards: the surge worked and is continuing to save lives every day.</em></p>
<p>Well, we already explained at length how this is a lie.</p>
<p><em>Post after post whines and weeps for Bush to be sent to The Hague, compares Bush to Milosevic, Mugabe, even Hitler.</em></p>
<p>Bush <em>has</em> committed war crimes with his illegal war, so, yes, he should face a trial at The Hague.  I&#8217;m not going to compare him to Mugabe or Milosevic, and the only comparisons to Hitler that could be made would have to talk about how his grandfather helped fund Hitler&#8217;s war machine.  (You do know that is a fact, don&#8217;t you?)</p>
<p><em>Half the posters here probably think the Bush administration knew about 9/11.</em></p>
<p>Well, if there weren&#8217;t so many facts that support this notion, maybe it wouldn&#8217;t have such legs.  I won&#8217;t go so far (as some have) as to say that Bush (or his people) helped <em>plan</em> the attacks, but they sure seemed ready to take full advantage of them.  Probably just a coincidence.</p>
<p><em>Face facts, Lyndon Larouche-bags: The Iraq Liberation Act was written in 1998 by the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION because it was the right thing to do.</em></p>
<p>The Iraq Liberation Act, introduced by Republican Ben Gilman, did indeed state:</p>
<blockquote><p> Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 &#8211; Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you read the bill, however (you can find it <a href="http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>), you will see that NOWHERE does it state that this regime change should be accomplished <em>militarily</em>.  (For such an action would violate international law.)</p>
<p>And, as someone has correctly pointed out, when we did finally get the weapons inspectors in there, they found that Iraq no longer had any WMD and had destroyed them all as they were supposed to do after the first Gulf War.</p>
<p>Have you got any FACTS to tell us now?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108834', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur Keith.  But I do worry about the effects of delaying those elections.  That may not bode well for holding back either.

Now, if there are no provincial elections AND we strike Iran, well...that wouldn&#039;t be good.

I&#039;m sure the right-wing wackos, though, will find a way to blame Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur Keith.  But I do worry about the effects of delaying those elections.  That may not bode well for holding back either.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no provincial elections AND we strike Iran, well&#8230;that wouldn&#8217;t be good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the right-wing wackos, though, will find a way to blame Obama.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108812', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>StratRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Keith Says: 

mary,
If there is a strike on Iran (either by US or Israel) Sadr and al-Sistani won’t be holding back their people any longer and there will be blood.&lt;/em&gt;

It will be raining from the sky, right onto our brave soldiers who are stuck in that civil war. We have no business staying in Iraq, after this weeks announcements by the Iraqi government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Keith Says: </p>
<p>mary,<br />
If there is a strike on Iran (either by US or Israel) Sadr and al-Sistani won’t be holding back their people any longer and there will be blood.</em></p>
<p>It will be raining from the sky, right onto our brave soldiers who are stuck in that civil war. We have no business staying in Iraq, after this weeks announcements by the Iraqi government.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108776', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mary,
If there is a strike on Iran (either by US or Israel) Sadr and al-Sistani won&#039;t be holding back their people any longer and there will be blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mary,<br />
If there is a strike on Iran (either by US or Israel) Sadr and al-Sistani won&#8217;t be holding back their people any longer and there will be blood.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108754', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nettles Says: 

Half the posters here probably think the Bush administration knew about 9/11. 

July 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm &lt;/i&gt;

Wrong.  We don&#039;t &quot;think&quot; the Bush Administration knew about 9/11.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We know it.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nettles Says: </p>
<p>Half the posters here probably think the Bush administration knew about 9/11. </p>
<p>July 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm </i></p>
<p>Wrong.  We don&#8217;t &#8220;think&#8221; the Bush Administration knew about 9/11.  <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html" rel="nofollow">We know it.</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>StratRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, here comes the facts nettles....Are you ready for them? Do you have a pad of paper and a writing utensil?

Sit quietly as we explain the world your idiot in chief has created for you. You won&#039;t be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, here comes the facts nettles&#8230;.Are you ready for them? Do you have a pad of paper and a writing utensil?</p>
<p>Sit quietly as we explain the world your idiot in chief has created for you. You won&#8217;t be happy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108734', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne A. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne A. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup,

There is a difference between a situation being &quot;more stable&quot; and &quot;more secure&quot; than it was before, and being &quot;stable&quot; and &quot;secure&quot;.  You are equating the two.  Our military commanders have said that the reduction in violence is &quot;fragile&quot;.

And did you watch the video of the Iraqi government person saying they want our troops out by the end of 2010?

You are continuing to defend the indefensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup,</p>
<p>There is a difference between a situation being &#8220;more stable&#8221; and &#8220;more secure&#8221; than it was before, and being &#8220;stable&#8221; and &#8220;secure&#8221;.  You are equating the two.  Our military commanders have said that the reduction in violence is &#8220;fragile&#8221;.</p>
<p>And did you watch the video of the Iraqi government person saying they want our troops out by the end of 2010?</p>
<p>You are continuing to defend the indefensible.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108732', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iraq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;elections may be off &lt;/a&gt;for this year in Iraq.  That may be trouble as al-Sadr was thought to be holding his people off on the hopes of gaining power relatively legitimately through the planned October elections.

&#039;BAGHDAD - Iraq&#039;s presidential council on Wednesday rejected a draft provincial elections law and sent it back to parliament for reworking — a major blow to U.S. hopes that the vote can be held this year. 

The decision was likely to delay the elections until next year because there would not be sufficient time to make the necessary preparations. U.S. officials have pushed hard for the polls, which had been due by Oct. 1, as a key step toward repairing Iraq&#039;s sectarian divisions.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iraq" rel="nofollow">elections may be off </a>for this year in Iraq.  That may be trouble as al-Sadr was thought to be holding his people off on the hopes of gaining power relatively legitimately through the planned October elections.</p>
<p>&#8216;BAGHDAD &#8211; Iraq&#8217;s presidential council on Wednesday rejected a draft provincial elections law and sent it back to parliament for reworking — a major blow to U.S. hopes that the vote can be held this year. </p>
<p>The decision was likely to delay the elections until next year because there would not be sufficient time to make the necessary preparations. U.S. officials have pushed hard for the polls, which had been due by Oct. 1, as a key step toward repairing Iraq&#8217;s sectarian divisions.&#8217;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5108730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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