Fox and Friends tackles sexism: ‘Hey, honey! Get me a sandwich!’
Fox and Friends tackles sexism: ‘Hey, honey! Get me a sandwich!’
This morning on Fox and Friends, the three hosts began a discussion about sexism and whether it still exists. Brian Kilmeade concluded, “I don’t see it.” As proof, he said, “I look at women and say, ‘Hey! Hey equal!’” Steve Doocy then joked that he says to women, “Hey, honey! Get me a sandwich!” Gretchen Carlson was clearly uncomfortable throughout the segment, repeatedly trying to shift the discussion to Hurricane Dolly. The two men, however, decided to talk about the problems with women’s sports, concluding that Carlson needs to get more of her “people” to watch the WNBA. Watch it:
Transcript:
DOOCY: Do you think sexism, in traditional television news viewing in the evening, has eroded significantly?
KILMEADE: Have we beat sexism though? I think we’re all equal. I think men and women are equal. Do you?
CARLSON: No.
DOOCY: All you have to do is look at the empirical facts that women are paid less for the same job. So we’re making a lot of headway. But for her to say that she’s a victim of sexism and Barack Obama not a victim of racism. This is something different.
CARLSON: It’s too multi-faceted to have it be only just one thing. You cannot deduce from that that sexism still does not exist.
KILMEADE: I don’t see it. I look at women and say, “Hey! Hey equal!”
DOOCY: No, what you say is, “Hey, honey! Get me a sandwich!”
KILMEADE: No, I don’t say, “Honey, get me a sandwich!”
DOOCY: I do! Sweetie!
CARLSON: This is a slippery slope. So I think we should just end the discussion and move on to something else.
KILMEADE: Are you looking at the WNBA/NBA ratings? The problem with women’s sports is that women don’t watch.
DOOCY: It’s not as interesting.
KILMEADE: Women’s sports isn’t as interesting?
DOOCY: I don’t think the WNBA is as interesting as, for instance, college basketball. I like that a lot better.
KILMEADE: Women’s college basketball.
DOOCY: Yeah.
CARLSON: As a woman, I enjoy watching sports.
KILMEADE: You’ve got to get more of your people to watch sports.
DOOCY: Yeah, your people! Get your people!
CARLSON: Let’s move on to the hurricane —
DOOCY: We are married to some of her people.
KILMEADE: That’s why we have such –
CARLSON: Thanks for the reminder for when Brian goes home today — this afternoon. At some point. Okay, let’s get back to the hurricane.
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These men obviously don’t realize how much snot and dog shit they’ve been served — “Here’s your sandwich, honey.”
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 amAnd this is newsworthy how?
Shame on you TP. You have wasted time and space documenting the kind of mindless BS that occurs daily on FoxSnooze and Friends. That’s what happens when you have three bimbos on-set.
Now, how about something that will have impact upon our nation and our lives.
May I suggest –> http://tiny.cc/PhA7N
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 amthats just nuts.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 amits hard to believe its not a fred willard character.
Some might thing that the entire purpose behind a website dedicated to progressive causes might have some vested interest in a national ‘news’ network continuing to promote a sexist agenda… but that’s just me.
As for the link that Tom so generously has provided on different threads…. I think that John Edwards having an affair with Batboy hardly qualifies as news…..
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:07 amZooey says;Tehse men obviously don’t realize how much snot and dog shit they’ve been served- “Here’s your sandwich, honey”
LOL!
They deserved that.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 amtom Says:
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 am
Shame on TP? Shame on you!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 amUncle Ho Says:
They deserved that.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 am
:-)
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 amZooey,
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 amWhat the Hell is in this sandwich you made me? It tastes like snot!
A male saying they don’t see sexism is the same as a white saying they don’t see racism.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 amA man is no more an expert on what it’s like to be a woman than a white is on what it’s like to be black, or straight on gay, or rich on poor.
These people are pathetic.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:13 amZimzone Says:
Zooey,
What the Hell is in this sandwich you made me? It tastes like snot!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
How do you know what snot tastes like? :-D
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:13 amDOOCY: All you have to do is look at the empirical facts that women are paid less for the same job. So we’re making a lot of headway
What? How is it making headway for women to be paid less?
Actually, under the Bush Regime, women have LOST ground in this arena. Women make less now than when Bush entered office. Definitely NOT making headway.
Idiots.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:17 amZimzone Says:
Zooey,
What the Hell is in this sandwich you made me? It tastes like snot!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
Zooey Says:
How do you know what snot tastes like? :-D
I was a boy, ’nuff said!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:17 amZooey Says:
These men obviously don’t realize how much snot and dog shit they’ve been served — “Here’s your sandwich, honey.”
Hehehee….Reminds me of the movie Prince of Tides :)~
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 amGretchen Carlson must think she’s the new MN Loni Anderson…
…unless they have the same hairdresser.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 amtom Says: And this is newsworthy how?
Because as long as these people have influence on the public, we will continue to see the erosion of our country. It’s an across the board statistic that countries that treat women as equals to men have higher standards of living than those that do not. In the U.S. we do not. If we want to solve our crime and health issues, we first have to fix the underlying cause – discrimination aganst women.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 amI’ve quoted Tom Clancey on this before, and I’ll quote him again. “The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.” How do maroons like this get away with it? Stupidity is one thing, but Faux, once again, takes it to a Whole new dimension. I never thought I’d say this, but for once, I actually feel sorry for Gretchen.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 amImpeach Pelosi, Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
Zooey, it looks like we have an honest disagreement here. Sorry, but I really don’t think that something that is a regular daily occurrence on FoxSnooze and Friends is very newsworthy. That’s the “shame on you” message in my earlier post. Really. Who cares? If this is what you are disagreeing with me about, let me know.
On the other hand, if you are “shaming on me” for raising the Edwards story, please understand that my purpose in doing so is to (1) make others aware that this story will get legs today and we’ll all be hearing about it and (2) it will have impact in terms of Obama’s VP selection and very possibly keep Edwards out of the AG slot.
Edwards will be getting beat up about this, I am sure. I am not gloating about it or “trolling”.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 amKILMEADE: “I look at women and say, “Hey! Hey equal!”
I do that TOO! I’m immune to MACE now!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 amtom..
I suggest you research this story for more plausible evidence at least, and report back when you have something that offers convincing corroboration or refutation.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 amtom Says:
On the other hand, if you are “shaming on me” for raising the Edwards story, please understand that my purpose in doing so is to (1) make others aware that this story will get legs today and we’ll all be hearing about it and (2) it will have impact in terms of Obama’s VP selection and very possibly keep Edwards out of the AG slot.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 am
It’s the National Enquirer, for god’s sake. It’s trash. It’s gossip.
Please don’t pull the “it’s for your own good” routine. The Obama team is not made up of idiots. Edwards (or anyone else) will be fully vetted for any position in his administration, so if this story has any basis in fact — they already know about it.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 amSo this is what it boils down to — sexism has now become fodder for sophomoric jokes. Sexism is something we’ve “beaten” because MEN say so. And the biggest thing about sexism is the lack of parity between men’s and women’s sports, just because these clowns say so.
Somehow, I imagine that if the subject had been racism, and if the panel consisted of two white people yukking it up and one black person who looked uncomfortable, the offensiveness of this entire discussion would be more readily apparent to all. So why is it OK to treat sexism as funny and trivial?
I would be interested to know the salaries of Doocy, Kilmeade, and Carlson.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:33 amFirst, what is all this talk about Edwards?
Second, Gretchen must be second guessing her career decision after that segment.
Third, I get tired of the notion that everything can be dynamically changing for angry white men, but all must remain “traditional” for women and minorites.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:35 amI SEE STUPID PEOPLE
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:35 am*minorities
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:36 amZooey Says:
tom Says:
On the other hand, if you are “shaming on me” for raising the Edwards story, please understand that my purpose in doing so is to (1) make others aware that this story will get legs today and we’ll all be hearing about it and (2) it will have impact in terms of Obama’s VP selection and very possibly keep Edwards out of the AG slot.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 am
Righhhhhht….Or you post it here, get a few rebuttal beatdowns and then your handlers on the right can claim tomorrow that this story is burning up the left wing blogs. stooge.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:37 amKILMEADE: Have we beat sexism though? I think we’re all equal. I think men and women are equal. Do you?
Hillary Clinton might have something to say about that. Why don’t you ask her?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:37 amYou’re an idiot NN, or KKK or whatever. Keep trying to divert attention away from your sexist, racist overlords.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 amI knew the wannabe gangsta was going get all uptight on the Nas shit whenI saw it last night.
Batboy has legs?
Try putting a little jicama on the sandwich. It’ll make the other ingredients taste less shitty
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:42 amEverytime you see the “P” in progressive capitalized in the middle of a sentence, you know Trajan is writing the post.
This troll infestation is out of control, and of course confirms that the trolls know they’re going to recieve a real beating on Nov 4.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:43 amIt’s always nice to hear about the depths of the sickness at Faux. However, I can’t spare much outrage the day after Katie Couric/CBS got busted creatively editing a McPander Bear interview which, if unedited, would make him look like an utter fool.
How many times have CBS and other networks pulled the same stunt? Will the “swift boat veterans” soon be editing news copy? How long until the MSM gets tired of quoting out of context and moves to pure fabrication? Will the average viewer ever be told the truth about anything?
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 amNasty Nas Says: blah blah blah irrelevant bullshit blah blah
On another note Nasty Nas, that Road to Zion track you did with Damian Marley was the JAM
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 amGo away KKK. Nobody cares about your musical taste. This is a political blog, in case you hadn’t noticed. this is a thread about your buddies at Faux. got anything to say about sexism in the MSM?
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:46 amLook posting a bunch of Nas videos at a site that no one ever views hardle qualifies as expertise
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 amNasty Nas Says:
Bobwurst,
I’ve been into Rap since the 80’s. Nas is my favorite rapper and I have met him. we have mutual friends. I have been of fan of his music since 1991. He’s not a Lefty. He’s a Black Nationalists that wants empowerment for his people. I respect him for that. You guys know nothing about Nas, so stop dick ridding the man. Buy Illmatic, it is the most Rightwing Album in History. I’m a real Hip Hop head, not you.
Test me on this.
Illmatic was rightwing?
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA..
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Clown.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 amYou can’t spell crap without rap…
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:48 amNasty Nas Says:
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:37 am
I never claimed to know a thing about hip hop or Nas, other than being familiar with the name. Reading skills are important, dingleberry!
Trahan, it’s apparent that you know nothing BUT hip hop, but I’m sure that works out for you in your job as a busboy at the local burger joint.
Oh no, now you’re going to send one of your Latin King boyfriends to beat me up. I’m a-skeered now!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 amI see the sock puppet infestation is continuing. I’ll be back when they get put to bed.
You just lost another round TP. Pull your heads out and START BANNING IPs!!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 amNext Trajan is going to tell us Grandmaster Flash and Kurtis Blow were Hitler supporters
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 amNAS? As in the National Academy of Science? Because they did a study in which they found:
‘Women in science and engineering are hindered not by lack of ability but by bias and “outmoded institutional structures” in academia, an expert panel reported today.’
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 amZooey (and others) –
Apparently, you do not recall my other numerous posts on TP threads so that you can put my Edwards comments in context. I am anything but a “concern troll” or someone who would quote the National Enquirer as an authoritative source.
I am really rather disappointed in the fact that you want to “kill the messenger” rather than deal with the message. As to “gathering facts” and/or refutation, etc., that’s irrelevant at this point. The story is the story. What I am saying is that this will likely get bigger as the days wear on. I suspect that the Enquirer has pictures of Edwards in what it has described as a compromising situation. If so, they wouldn’t put them on their website — they are saving them for their next print edition so they can sell their yellow pulp paper.
There are Democrats who are not immune to criticism and scandal, you know. It is really unfortunate if we cannot have a civil conversation about this.
Peace out.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 ammary:
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 amI have read complicting info as to the enrollment numbers in advanced science programs by gender. Do you have any sources you feel are reliable?
‘The panel, convened by the National Academy of Sciences, said that in an era of global competition the nation could not afford “such underuse of precious human capital.”
snip
‘“Unless a deeper talent pool is tapped, it will be difficult for our country to maintain our competitiveness in science and engineering,” the panel’s chairwoman’
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:56 amSting was a busboy
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 amRepresent was my favorite track, and as a white boy growing up in a decaying Detroit, I have met more rappers than I care to count, ok?
This thread is about sexism. Get on topic or get out.. Shouldn’t you be defending your buddies on Faux noose?
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am#57
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 amWho gives a shit?
Did you vote Richardson in your primary? Make a great Latin president don’t ya think?
Some of their best friends are women.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:00 amNasty Nas Says:
I’m a real Hip Hop head, not you.
Test me on this.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:43 am
_______
Actually, Trajan, you’re just a shit head. And you’ve already proven this far beyond the need for testing.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:01 amArt Says:
Some of their best friends are bimbos
fixed it
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 amNasty Nas Says:
hussein toasterhead,
Shut up, this isn’t your topic. Go talk about supporting Iran, Hamas, Al Qaeda and Hugo Chavez. You know nothing about Rap.
Speaking of topics, care to get back on the topic of the thread?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 amThere’s plenty of sexism in old school hip hop.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 amJust trying to help ya look less ridiculous and actually get to the topic
Hello dbadass – can you hear me? It’s getting awfully loud in here!
I don’t have anything handy right now but my understanding is that women’s gains in that regard have been steadily eroding. Enrollment is down, representation is down in academia and the workforce.
Thank you for your interest.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 amin science and engineering fields that is…
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 amAt least I can see a connection between sexism and women’s sports – at least until the men’s team is described as “nappy headed ‘ho’es”.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:09 ammary Says:
Sorry Mary, Dbadass, got caught up playing with troll poop. It’s like silly putty, you know?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 amI mean, when you press it against newspaper, you can stretch and distort the words that are lifted to any shape you want.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 amThanks Mary:
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 amI wouldn’t deny sexism in all its forms but being in the sciences and male, my causal observations have shown significant gains. To what do you think the retreats you speak of might be attributed
Nasty Nas Says:
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Zooey,
That is a nice Racist comment calling me a Busboy. That is all Spanish people can work as in your mind. Thanks for expressing your racist views Zooey. You are a gift.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:54 am
No, that’s YOUR racism, Trahan, you self-loathing moron. Apparently it’s you who believe only “Spanish” people can be busboys.
Both of my sons (white men) have been busboys at certain points in their lives — no shame in that. But unlike you, they moved on.
You didn’t deny being a busboy to this very day — so it’s true!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 amthe brown acid –
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 amI totally understand! I’ve gotten caught up that silly putty-poop myself on occasion! Stinky, sticky nastiness!
Nasty Nas Says:
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Why did you call me a busboy, Zooey?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 am
Awwwww, you poor whiney-assed titty baby victim, I guess you’d prefer to be called a piss-soaked troll. It fits you better anyway.
Oh, you posted my words. Now I’m scared. ***yawn***
How many hits did you get on that POS blog in the last couple of months? :-D
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 amToo funny, Trahan. :-D
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 amZooey Says:
Oh, you posted my words. Now I’m scared. ***yawn***
How many hits did you get on that POS blog in the last couple of months? :-D
Uh oh. The thousands upon thousands of regular readers of Trajan’s blog will be descending on you, Zooey. Or, really, no one.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:40 amdbadass – that’s great to hear!
I’ve heard that freshmen enrollment for females has been steadily dropping this decade after some gains had been realized in the 90’s. I hope I’m wrong!
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 amYeah, I’m really sweating this one. :-D
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 amAfter yesterday, seeing trolls derail every single thread, and now seeing today how a troll has managed to derail this one, I am taking a vow that for today, I will not feed the trolls. I will flag anyone who is making an effort to disrupt or derail. I will do this silently without even posting that I’m doing it, since publicizing flagging also feeds the trolls.
Anyone with me on this?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:48 amI am missmolly.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 amtom Says:
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Zooey (and others) –
Apparently, you do not recall my other numerous posts on TP threads so that you can put my Edwards comments in context. I am anything but a “concern troll” or someone who would quote the National Enquirer as an authoritative source.
I am really rather disappointed in the fact that you want to “kill the messenger” rather than deal with the message. As to “gathering facts” and/or refutation, etc., that’s irrelevant at this point. The story is the story. What I am saying is that this will likely get bigger as the days wear on. I suspect that the Enquirer has pictures of Edwards in what it has described as a compromising situation. If so, they wouldn’t put them on their website — they are saving them for their next print edition so they can sell their yellow pulp paper.
There are Democrats who are not immune to criticism and scandal, you know. It is really unfortunate if we cannot have a civil conversation about this.
Peace out.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 am
I remember you as a poster here, tom, that’s why I’m surprised at your gossip-mongering.
I look forward to your report on Batboy’s first date, and the shocking cellulite on Paris Hilton’s ass.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
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Anyone with me on this?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:48 am
I’m with you, Miss Molly.
**hanging head in shame**
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 amMary:
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 amAnd I hope I am right. Like I said my observations are by no means reflective of any strong quantifiable data just causual observation. I had not read nor heard of a measured decline this decade. It is possible that the increases of the 90’s many have some links to economic factors.
Anyone with me on this?
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July 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 amSorry misshusseinmolly, but I have a personal policy against flagging but I definately see your point and encourage others to follow your lead.
Reminds me of the KKK leader who turned against his supremist brethren. It was after a colleague said that once the war against skin color was over, then they would move to eye color. This grizzled high-ranking officer of the KKK woke up over this.
What happened on this Fox program seems like a similar situation. At the core, many of these people have the sad anxieties that they try to make light of. Try to find comfort in those with the same phobias and empathetic deficits.
Hope this woman wakes up.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 amTriplekick2:
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmWhat the hell are you talking about. This thread has everything to do with Fox News. Might want to scroll up and check
Oh that must be it. So Triplekick2. Might I inquiry as to why you hang here? It seems you have a beef with the place. I don’t have access to tv much so I really don’t pay much attention to Katie or Fox. I can say that when I have seen Fox News it has been way messed up but since I have never seen Ms. Couric, I really couldn’t comment
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:45 pmGretchen Carlson was clearly uncomfortable throughout the segment, repeatedly trying to shift the discussion to Hurricane Dolly.
You’d be uncomfortable too, having just realized you were the middle of an idiot sandwich.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pmSo now TrippleKick is defending sexism? Exactly what can the right side do which would finally piss him off? Exactly how low does the country have to go before TK sees the consequenses? I guess for TK the only people left to approve of are tall, white GOP men – no others.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:23 pmSure, this is sexism, but Gretchen takes it and allows it to happen. She should have told them to screw off.
Women need to tell men to stop treating them like garbage and mean it if they want stuff like this to end.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 pmOh those silly NeoCon Boys, they are just funning you, can’t you take a joke, geez….(slap on the butt)…it’s just good clean fun…(thigh squeeze)…can’t you girls take a little joke once in a while…(booby brush with arm).
They are such pigs, and it shows how the conservatives think of women, second class citizens and just play things…knuckle-draggers, all of them.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:48 pmThese medieval morons aren’t going to rest until all of us are back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, ’submitting unto our husbands’ like the good little wimminfolk we are.
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:11 pmGretchen made her bed, now she can lie in it. Zero sympathy here.
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
StratRat,
Your comprehension skills could use improvement.
Nope. We’ve all got your number pal.
You have an affinity for tall, white, GOP manly men. You have made that crystal clear throughout your postings here. Don’t deny it, there is nothing wrong with your ‘feelings’, as I am sure your folks always told you that you were ’special’, not different. Don’t hide from your destiny – you would only be lying to yourself, such as Larry Craig.
BTW, there would be no way I could do my day job without an exceptional grasp of reading comprehension. It’s sort of a requirement in my line of work.
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:36 pmSomebody watches them do this?
July 24th, 2008 at 5:08 am