Scarborough Defends McCain, Criticizes Bloggers ‘Eating Cheetos’ In Their ‘Underwear’
Scarborough Defends McCain, Criticizes Bloggers ‘Eating Cheetos’ In Their ‘Underwear’
Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) inaccurately claimed that the surge was responsible for beginning the Sunni revolt against al Qaeda in Iraq’s Anbar province: “Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening.” This morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough attempted to defend McCain’s comment:
Anybody that would argue the Sunni Awakening would have survived in Al Anbar province without the surge…is so ignorant of the facts on the ground in Western Iraq, in Al Anbar province and what the Sunni sheiks were doing throughout 2007 — they’re too stupid to be on television. [...]
The Anbar Awakening started in the fall of 2006. World War II started in December of 1941. That battled continued. The invasion of Normandy happened three years later. Good things happened. The surge happened six months later, and that’s when things started getting better in Anbar province.
Also during this segment, Scarborough attacked liberal bloggers for correcting McCain’s error, saying they were probably “just sitting there, eating their Cheetos” and saying, “Let me google Anbar Awakening!” He added, “Dust flying — Cheeto dust flying all over. They’re wiping it on their bare chest while their underwear — you know, their Hanes.” Watch it:
First of all, McCain did not simply tie the surge to the Anbar Awakening. He said that the Anbar Awakening began with the surge. As several bloggers pointed out, this claim is completely false. The Awakening began in September 2006; President Bush didn’t even announce the surge until January 2007. Things were getting better in Anbar long before the surge.
Additionally, as Colin Kahl writes in the current issue of Foreign Affairs, the Awakening was driven not by sheiks’ confidence in the surge, but by their belief that the United States would soon be withdrawing from Iraq. “U.S. forces had to convince the Sunnis that they were not occupiers — that is, that they did not intend to stay forever,” writes Kahl.
And for the record, ThinkProgress does not regularly eat Cheetos, nor do we blog in our underwear. But we do use a Google now and then.
Transcript:
SCARBOROUGH: And I know a couple of hosts ran this last night and made a huge deal because a liberal blogger picked it up. I guarantee the hosts that ran it had no idea whether the Sunni Awakening or the surge began at the same time.
Anybody that would argue the Sunni Awakening would have survived in Al Anbar province without the surge — anybody that would make that argument is so ignorant of the facts on the ground in Western Iraq, in Al Anbar province and what the Sunni sheiks were doing throughout 2007 — they’re too stupid to be on television. [...]
SCARBOROUGH: I don’t want to hear that. We want the mean one. Mean one’s fun.
READER: Okay. Your presence on tv is laughable.
SCARBOROUGH: There we go. Okay, hold on. Laughable. Okay, go ahead.
READER: The Anbar Awakening happened an entire year before the surge was even talked about. Anbar was doing pretty well by itself irrespective of the surge, you disingenuous smug moron.
BRZEZINSKI: Oh my. I have Anbar Awakening, October 2006.
SCARBOROUGH: What is so funny about this is people are just sitting there, eating their Cheetos — “Let me google Anbar Awakening!”
BRZEZINSKI: He’s wrong! He’s wrong!
SCARBOROUGH: Dust flying — Cheeto dust flying all over. They’re wiping it on their bare chest while their underwear — you know, their Hanes.
BRZEZINSKI: I love Cheetos.
SCARBOROUGH: The bottom line is, it started in the fall of 2006. And I can’t believe I’m having to explain this, that hopefully some of the talk show hosts that were so shocked and stunned and deeply saddened last night about the CBS whatever that was — maybe they can follow me here, slowly.
The Anbar Awakening started in the fall of 2006. World War II started in December of 1941. That battled continued. The invasion of Normandy happened three years later. Good things happened. The surge happened six months later, and that’s when things started getting better in Anbar province.
In fact, I’ve got a Washington Post article here right now that talks about how it continued. That it continued forward from that point. So to say it started and that the surge didn’t help it out is ridiculous.
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How does Scarborough know the habits of Tajan?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:23 pmI, myself, prefer Funions.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Projection, Joe. Pure projection.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmWorld War II started in December of 1941.
Hmmm. That'd be news to the folks in Poland, France, Holland, Czechoslovakia, China...
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmCrap - too many calories in Cheetos.
I prefer a non-fat half-caf vente soy latte, myself.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmScarborough Defends McCain, Criticizes Bloggers ‘Eating Cheetos’ In Their ‘Underwear’
Quick. Somebody please let Joe in on a little secret: he's the only one who keeps his Cheetos in his underwear.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmWhere to begin on this comedy of nearly endless list of McGaffe errors, mistakes, lies and confusions? McCain always seems to be in the awkward position of trying to explain away his most recent mis-statements... Good luck on that thankless task and thanks again for demanding that Obama visit the Middle East...
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmScarborough.... Criticizes Bloggers ‘Eating Cheetos’ In Their ‘Underwear’»
- - Yeah? Well it's CHEERIOS, not Cheetos. And besides, I don't have a mysteriously dead, young intern in MY office, Joe.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmI hate to think what 'holy Joe' eats in HIS underwear.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmsomething brown and smelly I'll bet.
What is with all the hostility towards bloggers anyway?! Is this supposed to be a free country in which we are told that we have freedom of speech and individuality is valued?
It's as though they want all the citizens to just shut up and say yes sir, whatever you say sir.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pmAmanda, I can speak for most of the guys here at TP, we wouldn't mind if you blogged in your underwear....really.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pmEr, ah, Joe, the Cheeto eaters in the undies are the Paid RNC trolls...jeebers, don't you know anything.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pmIt's a free country. I can eat and wear anything I please while I blog. How did he know I wear Hanes? Can the NSA se us through our computers now?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pmHave you ever seen what cheetos do to a keyboard? It's an absolute mess! I prefer cheesy-poofs.
Also, since I blog from work, my boss has asked that I not blog in my underwear.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pmmary Says:
What is with all the hostility towards bloggers anyway?! Is this supposed to be a free country in which we are told that we have freedom of speech and individuality is valued?
It’s as though they want all the citizens to just shut up and say yes sir, whatever you say sir.
You know the deal, Mary.
Bloggers are becoming a major voice in todays politics, and that challenges (and frightens) pundits like Joe. They see their schtick becoming stale and worn, plus Americans are aware of the lies spoken by the administration and the MSM. Those Americans are looking elsewhere for their information.
Part of that credit should go to sites such as Think Progress - and to bloggers like you.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pmWhat is he---some kind of elitist who hates Cheetos and casual dressing? He's going to turn off a lot of his viewers.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pmLordy, Joe.
We're just doing your job for you. I would think you'd be a bit more grateful.
BTW, I don't usually eat Cheetos, but if I did I'd just leave them in the bag.
Fetish much...?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pmI use Cheetos as my underwear.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pmHey, why are they assuming that I'm wearing underwear???
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 pmI wear underwear made out of cheetos. It's fun!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 pmZooey, pass the Cheetos, will ya? You've been hogging that bag too long...
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm:-D
ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
Hey, why are they assuming that I’m wearing underwear???
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
:>
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmI'm guessing Colbert will insist the blogger junk food of choice is Doritos.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmDid anyone else notice that one post mentioned the fact that Joe's intern turned up dead in his office one day? Then the post got "disappeared".
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmEmpty headed pundits are threatened by people that can outclass them with a simple google search.
They're lazy whores and will not be missed.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pmWow, those Republicans sure know how to put bloggers in their place. *yawn*
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pmObviously Joe's been to my webcam site.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pmStratRat - If they'd had the internets and the google around when I was younger I probably would have wised up a lot quicker!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:47 pmMSNBC is my preferred cable new channel. And I am irritated by Joe every time he is on. I cannot stand his superior attitude. He treats Mika with disrespect. I cannot stand the fact that he spews the Republican talking points on every topic. I would like to watch some morning news as I get ready, but I cannot stand Joe. Now, maybe, if they added a real liberal (not Harold Ford) to balance out Joe, I could watch. My vote is for Sam Seder.
Morning Joe is better when Joe is missing.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmIs Joe trying to tell us that he and others on his show are not wearing underwear?
This must be the new meme... we used to be depicted as wearing tinfoil hats and sitting in our basements.
Me? I'm happy to be above ground and wearing underwear!
PEACE
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmThis is not the same as Scarborough Fair so don't expect this loose cannon to ever be fair He is morning joe as usually has a caffeine anger that would explode an artery The best ever was when Maddow sent him packing
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmHow much face work has Ol' Joe had, anyway? It looks like he has no muscle function left in his forhead and his eyes have had a few too many tucks.
What a dweeby looking assklown!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pmJoe provides an excellent example of a need to have an IQ test for talking heads before we let them on the air. I peg Joe at 89, no logic skills, no apparent research skills coupled with a willingness to spew the party line, no matter how wrong he is.
I saw Joe this morning and he looked a little rugged with bags under his eyes. Tweety looked really bad eariler this week also. I guess they may see things coming apart and are worrying about their futures.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm"World War II started in December of 1941."
And Ronald Reagan won the Battle of Britain.
Too stupid to be on television indeed!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pmQuakerDave Says:
World War II started in December of 1941.
Hmmm. That’d be news to the folks in Poland, France, Holland, Czechoslovakia, China…
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Britain, too. My British friends were always ribbing me that Americans would come into every war at the last minute and then act like we won it single-handedly.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pmJust out of curiosity how many are currently wearing underwear?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 pmJoe spends so much time in front of a tv camera. It's a damn shame no one ever thinks to ask him what happened that day.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 pm29.AILib, You hit the nail on the head.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmHeh. My blogging attire is "business casual," thank you very much.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmSpeaking of msnbc, tonight on KO Harry Shearer is apparently going to discuss politics.
Yea Simpsons!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmWhat's this Hanes crap? Fruit o' the Loom, baby!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pmMr. Scarborough :"Will you please ask McCain when you see him next time when American troops will be coming home from Iraq,since all what we have been hearing from McCain daily is:" We are succeeding...we are succeeding,my dear friends" for almost a year.
If so, why are we there?
Saddam is dead, no WMDS were found in Iraq. Iraq is threat to nobody
McCain is also critical of timetable..so what does McCain have in mind.
As a candidate he needs to tell us.
Mr. Scarborough: do your job !!,
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pmbloggers did theirs and they predicted the outcome of this war very well before it started in 2003,just like what are witnessing now but the corporate media and pundits did not do theirs.
It is about time that Scarborough do some serious work,for change,and stop acting like a clown.
I don't think Joe's a killer. He was in a different city when the incident happened. He could almost annoy a person to death.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:54 pmIs he actually comparing "The Surge" to the D-Day invasion of Normandy? Is he out of his mind???
Here's a little tip for you, Joe. If we had sent half a million troops into Iraq like we did in Normandy, maybe the fighting in Iraq would be totally over by now. As it was, the few troops we did send in ("The Surge") only partially affected the level of violence there. Iraqis helped keep down the rest.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:54 pm18.StratRat, Right on!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pmNo one said he was a killer. Just wondering why it's a subject he prefers to sidestep.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmDoes anyone know who first coined the Anbar Awakening phrase? Pretty good speech writer.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmTracy5 Says:
Is TP also suggesting that security would have continued to improve without the “surge” even after the “Anbar Awakening”? Now that is false.
How do you know this is false?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmSo, Tracy, when was the last time YOU visited Iraq...?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pmScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
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Zooey, pass the Cheetos, will ya? You’ve been hogging that bag too long…
:-D
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Damn. Don't eat them all!
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pmStratRat Says:
mary Says:
What is with all the hostility towards bloggers anyway?! Is this supposed to be a free country in which we are told that we have freedom of speech and individuality is valued?
It’s as though they want all the citizens to just shut up and say yes sir, whatever you say sir.
You know the deal, Mary.
Bloggers are becoming a major voice in todays politics, and that challenges (and frightens) pundits like Joe. They see their schtick becoming stale and worn, plus Americans are aware of the lies spoken by the administration and the MSM. Those Americans are looking elsewhere for their information.
There's no hostility toward bloggers. You don't see people like Joe and Joe and Rush and Sean whinging about bloggers on the Right. They loves them some Drudge. What they don't like at all is that the Left has found a significant voice and that lefty blogs are hugely successful. They were much happier when the only information media outside the MSM was right wing talk radio. Or FauxNoose.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm5th Estate,
I used to tell my English friends that if it weren't for John Wayne, they'd all be speaking German now. Course, truth is he chickened out with a marriage deferment.
Buck, allegedly they were having an affair and a simple fall would not have caused that injury.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmSo what if I want to sit around in my'drawers"?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmtony andlido
mary Says:
StratRat - If they’d had the internets and the google around when I was younger I probably would have wised up a lot quicker!
And me as well...All the good stuff gets invented and built for today's kids, not yesterday's kids. Sigh...
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmGoodbye joe...you gotta go. We've all had it with your neocon lies....stop wasting your breath. You've been on the 'Hate TV' list for a long time. Shame on you MSNBC for keeping this bush pimp on the air.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:03 pmYou'd be angry and frustrated like Scarborough, too, if you had to defend a dullard like McCain every morning.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pmGood evening Keith!
My British friends were always ribbing me that Americans would come into every war at the last minute and then act like we won it single-handedly.
Absolutely! :D
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pmTracy5 Says:
Is TP also suggesting that security would have continued to improve without the “surge” even after the “Anbar Awakening”? Now that is false.
You ask a question, then attribute an answer to TP - all in the same sentance?
If you ask a question, it suggests you want an answer from those you put the question to. If you offer an answer, then you didn't need to pose the question in the first place. Does this make any sense to you?
Do you have any Cheetos? - I'm all out of shorts and laundry day is Saturday. Thanks...
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:06 pmKeith: I used to tell my English friends that if it weren’t for John Wayne, they’d all be speaking German now.
LOL, that COULDN'T have helped!
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 pmScarborough should be happy to have Mika and the rest of his supporting cast, because without them..his show will not attract many people, and it will be cancelled.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:11 pmI watch the show, but not because of Joe...
If he was alone, I'll never watch his show.
probably “just sitting there, eating their Cheetos” and saying, “Let me google Anbar Awakening!”
So, Scarborough is basically belittiling the practice of fact checking. There was a time when a journalist thought that *THEY* should check the facts.
Apparently, Scarborough never learned that in journalism school.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:11 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Heh. My blogging attire is “business casual,” thank you very much.
*Gasp* You elitist!!!! LOL.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pmWhen I was stuck in Illinois for a month earlier this summer, my hotel room had a teevee that I watched WAY too much (I don't have teevee at home).
I watched Morning Joe for a couple weeks, and it was ok. Then Joe came back from vacation, and I couldn't watch it anymore. What an obnoxious boob!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:17 pmMarketing a Myth: How John McCain Actually Got The Surge Wrong
by Lt Gen Robert G Gard
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/14/7569/26098/54/551162
Since the beginning of this year, military experts that I’ve talked to argue that the fall-off in violence in Iraq had almost nothing to do with the increase in American troop levels -- and everything to do with actually talking with and supporting the previous insurgents. Recent published reports confirm that talks with the insurgents began all the way back in December of 2003, when military officers met with Sunni insurgent leaders in Amman, Jordan. Not only that, but when those talks were actually opposed by the administration, the military went ahead with the talks anyway.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:17 pmSo, Joey the Scar has finally revealed himself as Trojan, er Trajan!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:19 pmWell that's it then. No more Cheetos and no more underwear while I blog.
I am sure that image got the blood flowing to Tracy's nubbin.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pmZooey,
He was off the show for a while to take care of his wife and pre-mature baby. Here's a report about it.
And I sincerely hope his wife and baby are doing better now.
Maybe he had a lot on his mind when he came back.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:23 pmI am currently wearing 8 pairs of underwear to make up for all of you underwearless people out there.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:28 pmFrom what I'm reading (in that personal opinion piece, as opposed to a news story), Tracy5, all the people defending the Surge in that piece are right-wingers who supported it from the beginning. You keep starting with the premise that the invasion of Iraq was necessary, legal, and a good idea. It wasn't and never was.
Also, the opinion piece you linked to did not explain any more than you did why violence would not have gone down eventually even without The Surge/Escalation. The item was written by a Surge defender who probably would never agree that the invasion was wrong to begin with.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pmHussein McCain Says:
I am currently wearing 8 pairs of underwear to make up for all of you underwearless people out there.
Okay, then, can I borrow your outer-most pair, please? I have to run out to the store. :)
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pmWasn't there a story a while back about scarborough being cought on camera stuffing himself with a burger or something while interviewing?
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pmWayne, are you making excuses for that obnoxious boob?
I can't believe any woman lets him have sex with her. Ew.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:32 pmScarborough thinks he is witty by talking 'Cheetos'.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pmI'll respect him more if he went after political 'Cheatos' instead.
Whaddya expect from poor Joe? All he's got is this:
The McCain Campaign So Far
http://ghoulardi.tripod.com/papanim.gif
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pmHussein McCain Says:
I am currently wearing 8 pairs of underwear to make up for all of you underwearless people out there.
How's that workin' for ya? Do thongs count as one garment or 1/2 a garment?
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:34 pmOkay, Zooey, perhaps I should have said, "his wife and her baby."
Just because they're married, it doesn't automatically mean they have sex with each other.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:34 pmWhat Joe is really thinking:
"Damn. That stupid bimbo at CBS exposed us all. And if she gets fired, ala Rather, I could be next! The horror, the horror".
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 pmSheesh Joe, it's Doodle Dust...and I like to blog in my thong.
Get your insults right, will ya!
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:41 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
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Just because they’re married, it doesn’t automatically mean they have sex with each other.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:34 pm
That's the only way marriage ever really works. :)
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:42 pmZooey, Wayne, thanx for the spit take!
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pmYou're welcome, pete. Catch our show most nights at The Zoo.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:51 pmActually that image just made me nauseous
More than you will ever know. Man I need to work out more. More yardwork and less blogging.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 pmJoe is a joke as you notice he misses a lt of thats only becaue he such a coward just like the rest of kluckers.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:57 pmpete,
I'm here to serve. :)
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:58 pmI'll admit to the no underwear but I am usually having something a lot more sophisticated. Give me a few minutes and if there are any cheetohs left when I get back you are all welcome to dip em in my corn/jicama salsa...
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:59 pmHe is a smug moron, and he's totally wrong about the facts, except the underwear part. I am in my underwear. Just no Cheetohs.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:02 pm72. Wayne, You, can borrow a fresh pair of my big boy pullups, the ones with a picture of John McCain winking and saying "Stay dry, Sailor!"
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm77. StratRat, My church doesn't allow for the wearing of thongs, they are the devil's underwear.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pmHussein McCain Says:
72. Wayne, You, can borrow a fresh pair of my big boy pullups, the ones with a picture of John McCain winking and saying “Stay dry, Sailor!"
They really don't say that, do they? I don't want John Wayne anywhere near my shorts or my Cheetos.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:17 pmHussein McCain Says:
77. StratRat, My church doesn’t allow for the wearing of thongs, they are the devil’s underwear.
I'm thinking what would the devil do with underwear? Now I am really confused.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pmeven to this day, the evangelicals are looked upon as a political power. I NEVER hear speculation about their motives or what they eat in their underwear.
the Internet did for the left what talk radio did for the right except the left is fair game. right wing internet cheeto eaters can go after Dan Rather and be instant typewriter experts and who makes fun of them.
"the netroots" has re-vitalized a lot of things and guys like joe just can't STAND it. CBS gave one candidate a third degree, interrupting his answers with the same question. they wiped the other candidates nose and gave him a cookie and it's OUR FAULT for noticing?
this week has been a staggering success for our candidate by any measure - any measure save mainstream media.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pmJoe sees dead people. In his office.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:25 pmThat cheetos in the underwear deal Scarborough's talking about didn't originate with him. This image was sent to Scarborough and a whole bunch of MSNBC staff when they started into week three of beating up Obama over the Rev. Wright deal.
He's desperately trying to defuse the sting even though he can't answer for his actions posed by the question under the image.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm“Scarborough Defends McCain, Criticizes Bloggers ‘Eating Cheetos’ In Their ‘Underwear’”
Hear, hear, Darryll.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:32 pmAlso during this segment, Scarborough attacked liberal bloggers for correcting McCain’s error, saying they were probably “just sitting there, eating their Cheetos” and saying, “Let me google Anbar Awakening!”
At least we know how to "Google" ; and we also don't kill people.....Can you or McStupid claim that , you partisan GOP tool ?
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 pmSo what happens when we stopping paying them to be awakened?
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pmTracy5 Says:
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“It wasn’t and never was.”
That’s you OPINION.
“Also, the opinion piece you linked to did not explain any more than you did why violence would not have gone down eventually even without The Surge/Escalation.”
The “Anbar Awakening” was started in September 2006 but the tremendous drop in violence did happen untill the surge really got going in mid 2007. There isn’t a creditable expert out there that has suggested that security would have continued to improve without the “surge”…unless you can cite one.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Hey Chimpy nut hugger
There has been no political reconciliation ; that was the premise behind the "Surge".
Therefore , the "Surge" really hasn't been as successful as your imbecilic self or Chimpy and McStupid claim.........
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 pmTracy5:
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:39 pmYou're quite the charmer I see...
Tracy5, Wake up and smell the underwear!
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:40 pmWhich Republican U.S. Congressman had a dead aide found in his office while the media was hounding Democrat U.S. Congressman Gary Condit about his missing ex-intern, Chandra Levy?
Joe Scarborough
The following is a collection of links gathered after a dead aide was found in Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach, Florida office in late July 2001.
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/congressman_joe_scarborough.htm
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:42 pmSo, Tracy, let's get down to brass tacks -- did the "Anbar Awakening" begin because of the Surge™ or not?
McCain says it did.
What say you?
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 pmI still want to know who first used the phrase and who told them/advised them to. I find it's use sort of amusing but it has sort of taken on a life of its own.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:54 pm"Where is that marvelous ape?"
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:00 pmralph lama,
Bingo. McCain needs to answer that very Brass Tacks Question.
This story requires SCRUTINY!
The Blogs and Keith Olberman are wondering. The Rest of the Media.????
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:04 pmIf McCain is such a genius and knew the surge was the answer to all Iraqi problems why did he say we'd need to stay there for 100 years? I guess he's going to be just like W by taking all the credit and none of the blame.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm107.dbadass, I've googled my fingers to the bone and still haven't found a clear answer to your question.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:14 pmUpdate:
Sen. McCain CANCELLED his News conference Today.
CBS News says they are NOT HAPPY about Katie Couric's interview of Sen. McCain, where Answers were edited to fit different Questions. CBS... "MIstakes Happen"
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:17 pm111. Hussein McCain:
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:31 pmThanks. I really appreciate the effort. I am intrigued by the life cycle of catch phrases and their impact on thought and perception.
Next George Bush will say liberal bloggers are drunk on cheetos, a complex culinary instrument.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 pm"Anybody that would argue the Sunni Awakening would have survived in Al Anbar province without the surge…is so ignorant of the facts on the ground in Western Iraq, in Al Anbar province and what the Sunni sheiks were doing throughout 2007 — they’re too stupid to be on television."
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:24 pmJoe, Are you suggesting that Keith Olbermann doesn't belong on the same channel as you? Guess you don't understand REAL journalism
114. stateofthedivision
considering how threatening pretzels are to the WH, I'd say the fractally twisted paterns of cheetos are quite complex.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:32 pmYuck! joe and miki with her practiced laugh.
just like a repug to start weaving a web. give it up joe, save face and STFU.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 pmA gaffe is saying I visited 57 states. Which hurts no one.
mcchimpy tells MF lies to the 29%ers hoping never to be caught.
look at that nasty grin and those beady blinking eyes.
all his campaign has are lies and smack talking.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:03 pmupside99 Says:
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How much face work has Ol’ Joe had, anyway? It looks like he has no muscle function left in his forhead and his eyes have had a few too many tucks.
What a dweeby looking assklown!
That's why I started calling him Pig-Eyed Joe.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 pmAND, we STILL have more facts than this dweeb...L O S E R!!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 pmI'm blogging in my underwear, eating cashews, and watching an episode of Dr. Katz. This makes me:
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:39 pma) A filthy blogging liberal degenerate
b) An Elitist!
c) More fun to have a beer with than Joe Scarbo
d) All of the above plus a pound of Outrage
This is so sad to see everyone in the media come to old Johnny McGaffers side and coddle him like an old man in a nursing home.Do these so called journalist really want him to run this country(into the ground like the shrub),or is it for the tax breaks they get under the flip floppers regime, I don`t get why nobody ever challenges him on anything he says,I know that the CEO`s are pulling the strings of the networks except Bill Moyers, so why don`t any of them have the BRASS to tell their bosses to go to hell!!!!!!!!!! And ask the tough questions.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:08 amnow I want cheetos =(
July 24th, 2008 at 3:05 amHeadline:
Is Scar watching males at home?
Does Scar lustfully imagine what bloggers do in private?
Should Scar talk these lusty urges he has with Sen Larry Craig.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:19 amI really liked Mika but this Joe ruins the show. He doesn't really know what the hell he's doing.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:59 amdbadass Says:
111. Hussein McCain:
Thanks. I really appreciate the effort. I am intrigued by the life cycle of catch phrases and their impact on thought and perception.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Well, the association of Cheetos and pr0n is somewhat old. Some years ago (4, 5?) I was told a joke about Cheetos, watching dirty video movies, and a visit to the doctor, in Spanish, but probably the "concept" is universal, and there existed an equivalent joke in English by the time.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:01 amYeah, and in Finland. Check out Winter War as an exercise in "pre-emptive warfare" and its consequenses.
Scarborough has clearly a very limited understanding of history and the WWII. In addition it seems that this limited understanding is tainted by a ultra-nationalist view.
He comes across as a very poor loser.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:06 amDo you understand the practical implications of the 'awakening'? it pretty much took the heart of the insurgency, the disgruntled mainstream Sunni, and put them on our team. that's a big deal. do you think the US military would be arming the same guys who were shooting them weeks before if they weren't sure that they'd get a lasting relationship? they didn't know the surge was coming when that started. the awakening then would account for the bulk of the drop in violence. but how then is the surge even relevant to it? how did the surge keep it going, since you're so sure it did?
also i like how the only 'experts' you're willing to cite are the people who promoted the surge in the first place.
...and can everyone stop with lame WWII comparisons, i'm looking at you Mr. Scarborough. anyone who finds it necessary to cut and paste Munich, Pearl Harbor, and D-Day onto every historical event ever since is a half-wit.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:25 amJonah Goldberg and K-Lo are going to be furious with the Scar. Cheetoh stained pajamas draped over disgusting pear-shaped bodies are a trademark for both right-wing nitwits. I see a titanic scrap coming up, hundreds of dollars in legal fees will be at stake.
July 24th, 2008 at 9:37 amSomebody at MSNBC go away, immediately after CNN gets rid of Glen Beck!
July 24th, 2008 at 11:05 pmThat's make Joe go away. Sorry.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:06 pm