Following the lead of many other conservative outlets, the Washington Times today published Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) error-filled op-ed that the New York Times recently rejected. In an editor’s note, the Washington Times explains its decision:
EDITOR’S NOTE: The New York Times declined to run this op-ed. The New York Post ran a shorter version. We are running the op-ed in its entirety, as has the Drudge Report and some other media.
Indeed, many of the “other media” who have published the op-ed are conservative outlets, including foxnews.com and Rupert Murdoch’s The New York Post.
Since when are facts and reality required by the reich-wing?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 amHow long until Daryll chimes in to express his admiration for the Moonie Times?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 amThank God for retarded Trolls.
It's no wonder the Republic Party is taking a nose dive.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 amBeing published in the Washington Times, the New York Post AND the Drudge Report? Wow, that's a trifecta of journalistic excellence.
/sarc off
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 amThank God for herr dubyah
It’s no wonder the GOPigs and the kkkonservative movement is taking a nose dive.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 amTiberius Says:
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Thank God for the Washington Times.
Do you think the Rev. Sun Myung Moon is God?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 amWe are running the op-ed in its entirety, as has the Drudge Report and some other media.
That's your standard, the Drudge report? Why don't you try making truthfulness your standard? You'd serve the people better that way, though possibly not yourselves.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 amI read somewhere that the op-ed will also be pubished in Mad Magizine next month. The cover will be a close-up of Mcain with a gap-toothed smile saying "What....Really, I don't remember...What?"
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 amGod doesn't want to be thanked for putting the idiot behind 'Tiberius' on Earth. It's a mistake he'd rather not talk about.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:38 amThat task has been assigned to Tiberius this morning, apparently. They're letting Daryll sleep in. He had a hard night cruising male prostitutes. Er, trying to save their souls, of course.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:42 amI'm surprised it took this long to land in the Moonie Times. I'd have thought they'd be the "go-to" paper for right-wing hit pieces.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 amI was on the road yesterday.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:44 amWhat's this about Katie Couric editing out McCain's stupid remarks, anyway? Link, please?
The right routinely criticizes affirmative action in society but seem perfectly content with journalistic affirmative action. "Don't worry sport, we'll publish your op-ed even if it looks like a 10 year old wrote it."
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 amTiberius, aka goon_golly, is anti-American — a real conservative.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 amWrong. Daryll is a sophisticated performance artist whose work is informed with a rare insight into the mind and attitudes of the contemporary evangelical conservative.
Some consider him a comedian, some consider him a dramatist. It all depends on whether you see conservative ignorance as funny or tragic.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 amTiberius is a weenie -- not a real American.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 amTiberius Says:
Daryll is a liberal sock puppet — not a real conservative.
i think you're right!
mr. t, do you like music?
enjoy!
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thank you.
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July 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 amAnd of course "librul" CBS is guilty of the most egregious journalistic affirmative action in this whole campaign, editing an interview with McSame to make it look like he's not totally ignorant of the situation in Iraq.
Where's the mainstream coverage of that?
(crickets)
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 amThanks for your insight, Tib. I have more entertaining things to watch, like dogs relieving themselves. So could you sign off and let the dogs through?
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:56 amTiberius Says:
Daryll is a liberal sock puppet — not a real conservative.
And you know this how? Because he sounds exactly like a "real conservative."
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 amFlagged, off-topic (as usual)
Hi Tiberius:
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 amIf you believe the MSM to be liberal, why do you believe the MSM is liberal? Please be specific. What factors have caused the MSM to be dominated by liberal thought?
Tiberius Says:
McWars: now that you have admitted that you find dogs relieving themselves entertaining you can seek help. That was a big first step for you.
Anyone who doesn't prefer watching dogs relieve themselves over listening to you needs help.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:02 pmTriplekick2:
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 pmNo
Tiberius can't do it... Sort of figured
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:06 pmUmm... not sure how to explain this to you, but... it's not really up to us.
Most of the criticism of McSame's op-ed has been its failure to state an opinion other than "Obama is bad". Seems that the NYT, which regularly publishes op-eds from right-wing pundits like Bill Kristol (and frequently have to issue corrections for them) has a fairly low bar to clear for right-leaning voices, and McSame still smacked into it with his forehead.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 pmWe will not remember you, Tiberius.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pmGive McPutz enough rope to hang himself-with his OWN words. The more he bloviates, the more people will see him as a demented, senile, old fool with absolutely NO idea of what he talks about.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pmFor any of our trolls, the fact that the NYT listed the Drudge Report as a reason to publish the op/ed, says it all.
That is the defense they came up with: Other outlets have also published this garbage, so we will too. Whatever happened to true journalism? Can you answer that question Katie Couric?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:17 pmRegarding McCain's opinion article, & in the infamous words of
Daryll 'Issa a boy or Issa girl, who wrote it for you?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
ralph, it only helps McCain when liberal rags like NYT flex their bias against McCain. Once again, NYT has become the story rather than reporting it. Now there is much more interest in John’s op-ed and it it got far more coverage than it may otherwise would have. NYT=0 McCain=1
tk,
would like some
good, conservative music
to go with that?
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soar tk, soar like you've
never soared before!
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it's john's favorite.
enjoy!
:)
good luck.
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July 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 pmralph, it only helps McCain when liberal rags like NYT flex their bias against McCain.
And it surely helps when they edit his on-air gaffes, Like CBS just did, eh? Pretty hard to claim some big media conspiracy against McCain and conservatives, after that.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 pmCorrection: Washington Times, not NYT...oops
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 pmCould you provide examples of this bias? Because I've seen examples of a conservative bias in the NYT (Judy Miller's war reporting, holding the warrantless wiretap story until after the election, hiring Bill Kristol), but all I've ever heard from the Right is that the NYT is "leftist", almost as if, by saying it, it makes it true.
Now, if your argument is that by enforcing reasonable editorial standards and asking conservatives to meet them shows "bias", I don't think you'll be painting too flattering a picture of the conservative movement.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pmWho?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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ralph, it only helps McCain when liberal rags like NYT flex their bias against McCain. Once again, NYT has become the story rather than reporting it. Now there is much more interest in John’s op-ed and it it got far more coverage than it may otherwise would have. NYT=0 McCain=1
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
The NYT is the story because McStupid's Op/Ed had absolutely zero value and even less merit ; no one is interested in McDepends' opinion , and rightfully so ...........
What "coverage" ha McStupid's Op/Ed really gotten ?
Has anyone lauded it for being so concise ?
Stop praying in the dark , d-bag ; you are in for a colossal beating , come November...........
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:24 pmralph the wonder llama:
Do you really think you will get those examples? The liberal media concept is crucial to their worldview as righteous warriors battling the forces of evil. They can't risk it at the altar of ideology. Still I encourage your persistance and appreciate the efforts to force an explaination of the conundrum
best-
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:32 pmOh, man, the howls from the reichwing about *gasp* FAIRNESS!! It's killing me.
The following occurred to me on my way in to work while I was listening (on Stephanie Miller's show) to all the reichwingers *whining* about how unfair the press is being to poor wittle picked-on John McCain:
That it's like GOLIATH whining that David had an unfair advantage because he had a slingshot...
Or GOLIATH whining that because David was so much smaller than he, he had an unfair advantage because he could run faster.
Jebus. I've never heard such a bunch of whining bawlbabies in my whole freaking LIFE!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:32 pmYou're right dbadass; I keep making the mistake of thinking they play by the same rules of evidence-based judgment as we do.
Thanks for the reality check.
Still, it's fun when we make 'em squirm, eh?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 pmWho needs real news and truthful data when you have to complete some blank pages before tomorrow? It's far easier to invent things and do no st!nking investigative work, I guess.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 pmTracy5 talking point has already been debunked. Malaki's own translator confirmed the exchange.
PS. Why does the right side enjoy watching our soldiers get killed? I get the feeling they like war. Makes them appear 'manly', I guess.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
Are you worried people will read John’s views and agree with him rather than Barry?
No.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 pmI thought they recalled the Tracy5 model due to faulty logic board circuitry?
It doesn't look like they fixed the bug yet.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 pmLooks like we have some monitoring back at TP. Tiberious hasn't survived past about the 15th post in the past several threads.
Gotta hurt to be so stupid as to not be able to stay long enough to either disrupt or to actually 'debate' an issue.
These funny Repug trolls; looks like their Boot Camp has lost its effectiveness.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pmThey may imagine that it makes them appear manly, but to anyone on the outside, it makes them appear as scared little boys who talk tough as long as their daddy is around.
It probably does make them feel manly. I'll give you that.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pmTracy5 Says:
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http://hotair.com/ archives/ 2008/ 07/ 19/ maliki-obamas-16-month-timetable-sounds-good/
This is the edited Spiegal version on the magazine’s web site:
“Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.”
The actual quote is here:
“SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. US presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months. Assuming that positive developments continue, this is about the same time period that corresponds to our wishes.”
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
What the hell does a German newspaper and Obama have anything to do on McStupid's shitty Op/Ed and the garbage Washington Times thread , stupid ass ?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pmTracy5,
soar tracy4,
soar like you've
never soared before!
*
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:39 pmTracy5 Says:
“SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. US presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months.”
McCain: That was a bad translation. What Maliki really said was, "As late as possible, as far as we’re concerned. US presidential candidate John McCain is right when he talks about 100, 10,000, or 1,000,000 years."
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 pmNow that the McCain letter is part of the public record, there is really nothing to prevent other people with differing opinions, to write to these orgainizations and express their opinions and to point out the errors in the McCain letter.
Happens all time in OP-ED pages all over the country.
The question here is, will the rebuttals be published?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pm"The libs were funny and pathetic though. deadbeatass (dbadass) asked me a question. They then promptly deleted Tiberius and deadbeatass posted: “see, he couldn’t answer it,” a few moments later. They can’t handle the truth."
Sorry but this was just too hilarious for words. Must have been that 4 minutes that through me. Tool/Fool!
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:59 pmdbadass, where's that quote from?
I seem to recall a comment from Tiberius, briefly flashed before he got deleted, that said he didn't have to answer any questions, which prompted your "couldn't answer it" remark.
Do I have that right?
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pmCouldn't they have been content just hanging McCain's Op-Ed on the white house refrigerator?
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pmactually raplh, embarassing as it is, I swung by the comments site to make sure all the pretend Latin Kings that sit at monitors saying goofy shit were getting all fired up about busboys and stumbled upon it.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pmSorry ralph about the mispell and of course that should have been "no comment" site and while we are at it "threw" not "through"
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 pmdbadass, I salute you for your willingness to do such valuable recon work.
I'm gonna put you in for a commendation.
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:16 pmdbadass, that's what's nice about being able to go in and edit your own typos. :)
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:33 pmConservative media: The new "vanity press"....
Cheers,
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:28 pmI trust T5 holds the same amount of contempt for CBS editing Katie's interview with McCain last night.
July 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmThe Washington Times is owned by Rev.Sun Yung Moon. He bought this newspaper to advance the neoconservative agenda.This idiot man has the ear of the right. Of course he printed it.
This is the man who in a ceremony in a Congessional office was literally crowned king of religion in America. He was attended by and crowned by some famous congressman. He wore a robe, his wife was there. This is the man that claims he is the reincarnation of Jesus.
He has great influence with the right wing. There is a book about him written this year. It's called BAD MOON RISING. It details his grasp in this country and who the right wing players are who support him. And in return he gives them money and publicity in his newspaper. It makes the whole idea of him with his influence on the right even more frightening.
Bush's father is a great friend of his. He supports him totally. The right are crazy. If you have any doubt of that then read this book.
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 pmNot even presidents always get their op-eds published in the newspaper. The NYT often rejected op-eds from Clinton as well. I don't know if they ever rejected one from Bush - because I am not sure he is even capable fo writing one.
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:57 pmMcCain was actually rescued from being hoisted by his own petard - his op-ed was full of mischarcterizations of Obama, offered no new policy information or opinion, and would have been an embarrassment to McCain - now the right wing has taken it up as "proof" that the media is liberal. So the NYT not only saved McCain, it gave the rightwingers a new "cause." The plan from the start?