McCain doubles down on his surge timeline confusion.
McCain doubles down on his surge timeline confusion.
Yesterday evening, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) denied that he was wrong in claiming the “surge” policy in Iraq “began the Anbar Awakening.” Pressed by a reporter, McCain argued that the “surge” actually began before more troops were added to Iraq:
McCAIN: First of all, a surge is really a counterinsurgency strategy. And its made up of a number of components. And this counterinsurgency was initiated to some degree by Col. McFarland in Anbar province relatively on his own. When I visited with him in December 2006, he had already initiated that strategy in Ramadi by going in and clearing and holding in certain places. […]
Q: So when you say ’surge’ then, you’re not referring to just the one that President Bush initiated. You’re saying it goes back several months before that?
McCAIN: Yes.
Watch it:
But McCain has previously admitted that the surge only entailed the increase in troop levels. “We have drawn down to pre-surge levels,” he said in May. “Was he saying ‘We are drawing back down to where we were before Colonel McFarland started using counterinsurgency tactics in Anbar as part of the Anbar Awakening.’ No, that is completely and patently absurd,” Ilan Goldenberg writes.
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McCain? Stumbling on his words? Spinning his way into another flip-flop reversal?
No one could have predicted!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pmAnd this guy is supposed to be our next CiC? God help us and the world, if that should ever happen. What a senile AssKlown!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pmthat is completely and patently absurd
July 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pmMcSame’s new campaign mantra
Doin’ the McConfused Hokey-Pokey dance: you put your right foot in your mouth and shake it all around; you put your left foot in your mouth and shake it all around; that’s what we call the McConfused Hokey-Pokey…
July 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pmMcThuselah’s surge of dementia began in Vietnam.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pmHey old man, why are you talking to those reporters? Shouldn’t you be bagging groceries?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pmOoooooohhhhh! I get it, the pre-surge, surge, counterinsurgency, surging, surge that preceded the surge that surged prior to the flowing surge that now surged ahead of the pre-surge, surge, counterinsurgency.
Get it, you libruls?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pmIs Kraft giving McCain campaign bucks in exchange for that impromtu little speech, right in front of their display?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pmMcCain is simply too stupid to be president. That is the meme we should get out there.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pmMcCain’s policy:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master — that’s all.”
July 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pmStop digging is the usual advise given for situations like John McCain finds himself currently. Obviously, he is too stubborn to take that advise. Surely America will not replace a stubborn idiot with a stubborn old fool, will they?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:22 pmIt should also be noted that we paid/are paying off the Sunni to help keep the peace.
Also, if the Surge is sooo successful, then why can’t we draw down from this calamity?
¶ AIO
July 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pmWhat a cheesey response…
July 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pmI also like that McYellowStain’s viedo sponsor is a whitening toothepaste.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pmGULLIBLE MEDIA: so you are saying time runs backwards & forwards, all at once?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:25 pmMCCAIN: yeah! & inide out, too!
GULLIBLE MEDIA: ok.
Let’s see who nibbles first at Jim’s “cheese.”
July 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pmDon’t mess with McCain, people. He only wants to kill the more brown people the better before he renders his sorry soul to the Devil. He knows for sure he’s going down there, and doesn’t want to leave alone.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:28 pmHello Jim…Why do post things which have nothing to do with the topic? Do you have anything to say about your man McCain and his wonderful chances at becoming the next president?
It seems you simply come to TP to throw crap at the post and see if something sticks.
Do you have anything to say about the topic of the post?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pmLooks like a flap over a flip flop to me.
McCentury looks like he’s already in a Nursing Home, just read the ‘68 Tribune, wondered if Nixon won the election and is ready for his 3x day naps.
Soon he’ll have a teleprompter duct taped to his forehead so his campaign can quit picking up broken pieces & promises.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pmWhen you miss the mark, redefine success. How Republican of John.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pmJW: ‘Who moved my cheese?’
July 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pmWhat shameless mendacity passed off as “straight talk”!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pmMcCain and Obama are both War Mongers. They want to send more troops to Afghanistan to die. It is time for peace with in Afghanistan. Say no to the Afghan surge it will not work.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pmPoor Johnny Boy; a one trick pony and someone is slowly leading that horse away.
Bu-Bye McDepends, time to take that job as an official Wal-Mart greeter now.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pmupside99,
July 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pmObama is no better. He wants more troops for Afghanistan. Why does he want more troops to die?
Caption:
CHEESE HEAD
¶ AIO
July 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pmJim Wilke is one of those trolls mcbush has, to gum up liberal blogs.
http://www.johnmccain.com/ ActionCenter/ BlogInteract/ BlogInteract.aspx
There’s no other explaination for the stupidity Jim exudes. At least Jim isn’t challenging anyone to a rap-off…
July 24th, 2008 at 12:38 pmWell, yeah, if McWrong’s going to be wrong, he’s going to be 500% wrong!!!
And hey, you kids - GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pmMcCain: NOUN, VERB, THE SURGE!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pmMccain is too stupid to be president. He’s too old. He’s too grumpy. He’s too sleazy. He’s too forgetful. He’s too immoral. He’s too sick. He’s too republican.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pmBobwurst Says:
Jim Wilke is one of those trolls mcbush has, to gum up liberal blogs.
http://www.johnmccain.com/ ActionCenter/ BlogInteract/ BlogInteract.aspx
There’s no other explaination for the stupidity Jim exudes. At least Jim isn’t challenging anyone to a rap-off…
I wonder how many points Jim has accumulated so far? Enough to get a McDepends bobble head doll for his dashboard?
These Repugs are too funny. Next thing you know they will be giving out Green Stamps.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pmThis website has single handily destroyed McCain. Congrats on a job well done.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:43 pmLet’s just tell Mccain he’s already president. The taxpayers can pay to have his ranchhouse painted white, spring for some pajamas with the presidental seal on them, and let john fade into dementia.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:43 pmUpside says:
These Repugs are too funny. Next thing you know they will be giving out Green Stamps.
Yeah, and they’ll claim they’re being enviormental for doing it. Did you see where grampy had to cancel his oil rig visit because the fuel spill and bad weather?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pmMcCain’s timing is still hosed. He says he spoke to McFarland in December 2006, but “the Google” says the al Anbar Awakeneing started in AUGUST 2006.
Did McFarland “create” his “surge/counterinsurgency” strategy to take credit for the Awakening’s success?
Are McCain/Bush also trying to lift credit for what the Iraqis did themselves?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pmMcCain is a sucker Says:
This website has single handily destroyed McCain. Congrats on a job well done.
TP gathers information and relays the news to the visitors of the site. TP doesn’t ‘create’ news, and as such, doesn’t ‘destroy’ anything. The candidates words and deeds decides these things.
McCains incompetence is the reason he is going to lose. TP is to be credited with giving folks who want ‘administration free’ information a place to go and access that information.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pmMcbush doesn’t need any help destroying his campaign. He’s doing a great job all by himself.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pmThe sun rises in the east only because the surge succeeded! Just ask grampa mcstupid.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pmJim Wilke Says:
Yeah, that’s it. His staff lie awake in a cold sweat every night…….‘My god, will those stupid ass remarks from McCain never stop?’
Fixed it for you, JW. By the way, did you find your cheese?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pmLee surrendered at Appomatox because of the surge.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pmBy the way, Wilkie—-that’s quite a gaffe you’ve got there. I’m sure the voters are really going to dig into that one…
Just doing your job, eh?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pmWould this be considered a secret surge that no one knew about except McCrabby?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pmAh, the troll must counterpunch wit an Obama misstatement.
Obama’s mistake was say “my committee” instead of “my bill”. The bill, the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act, was introduced by Obama but then refered to the Banking Committee, where it was approved.
Back to your dark hole Jim and look for some real shit on politicians. I think you’ll find McSame has a lot more shit clinging to him than Obama ever will.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pmHey Jim, will the surge make my teeth brighter and whiter?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pmYou’ve gotta give it to McBush—he’s sticking to the neocon strategy of rewriting history. How many times did our reason for invading Iraq change after the fact?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pmJim Wilke Says:
Yeah, that’s it. His staff lie awake in a cold sweat every night
Actually Jimbo, they are lying awake at night sweating - and you know it. That’s the only reason you wrote what you wrote. It’s all very Rovian - find your own weakness and project it onto your opponent. The Low Information Voters (like you) will soak it up. The rest of us will have a good laugh over it.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pmMcCain is a sucker Says:
This website has single handily destroyed McCain. Congrats on a job well done.
Arrives the sock puppet, just in time to set up a shot for the other troll.
So do these McCainPoints work like Green Stamps or what? Have you earned enough for a McBush duffel bag?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:53 pmThis Fawning Corporate Media keep talking about this DAMN SURGE IN IRAQ.
The SURGE that really matters:
the surge in people losing their homes
July 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pmthe surge in people losing their jobs
the surge in industries evaporating here and going overseas
the surge in the elderly having to choose between a full dose of their medication or not eating
the surge in the cost of everything from food, gas etc.
the surge in hatred towards the US because of our shameless, reckless foreign policy
the surge in our Constiutional Rights being taken away (see 2008 FISA Amendment Act, Military Commissions Act)
That was supposed to be “counterpunch with“. For a second I envisioned some republiscum had removed the H (for Hussain) key!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pmSo do these McCainPoints work like Green Stamps or what? Have you earned enough for a McBush duffel bag?
If you earn enough points, you get to spend time with McCain. It you don’t earn enough points, you have to spend even more time with McCain.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:55 pmGrampy McSame says - My friends back in the day we loved surging, we would go down to the lake, launch our boats and fish for surging all day long, but when those surging would put up a big fight we would get a surge of fisherman and that would take care of those surging, tasty too, Cindy, that troolup c**t would surge also, surging all the time, surge here, surge there, I think it was the drugs, but we should surge in Iraq more often, surging brings victory, surging oil out of the ground it victory, maybe we should surge Iran, I know I want too, I hate those brown people, look at them all brown and stuff, can’t they be pasty white like me?
I thing I just surged in my pants.
Could you have made your statement anymore confusing Grampy.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:56 pmThis has gone beyond ridiculous. McCain is now just making stuff up to try to sound like he knows something about tactics and strategy. There is no “surge” strategy as part of a counter-insurgency. The Bush administration used the word “surge” so they would not have to call it a troop escalation and they did it to flip off the new Democratic congress, not as any part of a strategy. The strategy in Iraq is not about counter-insurgency, it is about staying in Iraq. McCain is not just making a mistake of historical fact, he is flat out lying.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:56 pmYou know, I just realized something about these right wing nutjob trolls that peruse progressive/liberal websites all day: Evidently there are no right wing web sites out there worth even visiting. Otherwise, why would they be here?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:57 pmWhy on earth did McCain even talk about this? The TV networks and most cable news shows were all hiding the story for him. The only coverage I could find was Keith Olberman.
I’ll bet CBS is plenty pissed at McCain for blabbing about it, after they went to all the trouble to hide his incredible gaffe. Since he started babbling, CBS finally had to issue an apology for their “mistake”.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:57 pmcitizen_pain Says:
You know, I just realized something about these right wing nutjob trolls that peruse progressive/liberal websites all day: Evidently there are no right wing web sites out there worth even visiting. Otherwise, why would they be here?
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July 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pmQ: So when you say ’surge’ then, you’re not referring to just the one that President Bush initiated. You’re saying it goes back several months before that?
McBRAINDEAD: Yes. Now where can I find the Depends? That little punk stocking the shelves said aisle 9. This is aisle 9, isn’t it?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pmI LOVE IT:
MCBRAINDEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 1:06 pmBEST LAUGH IVE HAD ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobwurst Says
July 24th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Jim Wilke is one of those trolls mcbush has, to gum up liberal blogs.
http://www.johnmccain.com/ ActionCenter/ BlogInteract/ BlogInteract.aspx
There’s no other explaination for the stupidity Jim exudes. At least Jim isn’t challenging anyone to a rap-off…
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I was just wondering if Obama was doing the same thing — encouraging his supporters to troll on blogsites.
So I looked up the “action center” on his site:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter
And I found that he’s encouraging making phone calls, sending e-mails to friends, and setting up personal fundraising websites, but nowhere did I see him asking for volunteers to be trolls.
Is this just a GOP thing?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:08 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says
July 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Would this be considered a secret surge that no one knew about except McCrabby?
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That’s one explanation. Another one is that McBomb is claiming that we’ve actually been “surging” since the invasion. He just likes the sound of that word.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pmKeep the surge, John Boy, keep the surge. Wave the flag, sputter some more vague jingoistic crap and call it a campaign. Doesn’t he have a dog that needs to go for a walk?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:10 pmHey McBrainDead, Go Surge Yourself!
July 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pmObama’s international tour stops today in Berlin where he’ll give a speech to an expected 100,000 person crowd.
McCain, in an effort to diffuse the hype surrounding the event has planned to address the German people as well.
Well, descendents of Germans who now own a German resturant in Ohio…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 07/ 24/ mccain-plays-catch-up-att_n_114761.html
July 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pmcitizen_pain Says:
Otherwise, why would they be here?
In their pea sized brains, they think they are doing something destructive and taking they battle to the enemy, not knowing that actually we enjoy their complete stupidity, because it shows what idiots and non-thinking lemmings they truly are. Why just today Assomaley called us, “peace pricks”, not knowing that it shows what stupid war mongers the Reichwingers are, they think peace is bad.
Plus, school is out for the summer and those pre-college republicans need to earn that 10 cents a post for tuition.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pmI am surprised that no-one has mentioned the administration claim in the summer of 2007 that the surge had not started yet because not all the forces were in place.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
And I found that he’s encouraging making phone calls, sending e-mails to friends, and setting up personal fundraising websites, but nowhere did I see him asking for volunteers to be trolls.
Is this just a GOP thing?
C’mon, you know the answer to that. Yes, it is. It’s really no different than the mentality behind the New Hampshire phone jamming scandal. It’s exactly the sort of dirty tricks behavior begun under Nixon and polished over the years by Lee Atwater and KKKarl Rove.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:15 pmI keep wondering when Barbara Bush (the Don of the GOP)
is going to step in and ask McbrainDead to step down (feign a medical issue) and someone else will be the GOP nominee?
I think we will see this happen.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:18 pmMcSenile is a Side-show the GOP are constantly embarrassed of.
All Things Considered had a segment yesterday about the McCain campaign whinging about not getting as much media attention as Obama. If we had a real press, the campaign would be hiding in the tall grass, because the last thing they want is any real scrutiny of their candidate or his constantly-shifting, unsubstantiated opinions. What they really want is more of the ass-kissing, head-nodding, barbecue-eating hacks following McBush around — but the “press” is all following Obama around the Middle East and Europe, being greeted by huge and approving crowds.
Time for some shiny lures, McBush. “Look over there! Castro!”
July 24th, 2008 at 1:20 pmI thought McCain looked very comfortable and right at home as a greeter.
Yes I would like a basket and thank you nice man.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:20 pmYeah, the surge. The only “surge” was the surge of US dollars flowing into Sunni wallets. When that surge stops there’ll be another surge - a surge in ethnic violence.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:27 pmThere are more holes in his argument than the swiss cheese hanging behind him.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pmNote to Pols: Don’t make statement in the BALONEY AISLE of the grocery store.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pmMcSURGE: My surge is surgier than your surge!!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pmI think that John McCain is doing a fine job of making himself look like a dishonest fool. The best response is probably just to quote him and laugh. But I can’t resist debating.
He now has two positions
1) John McCain advocated a surge before the surge and deserved credit for the results of the surge, while Barack Obama opposed the surge.
2) “the surge” doesn’t mean what everyone else means when they say “the surge” it means “the surge and the shift to following the counterinsurgency field manual when trying to counter an insurgency plus making a deal with the people we were fighting in which they get money without accepting the Iraqi central government and well just everything that changed within a year of the improvement in the security situation.”
Claim 2 alone is enough to show he is dishonest and grasping at straws, but the debate point winning response is to note the equivocation.
Only if “the surge” means the increase in troop levels is it true that McCain advocted it and Obama opposed it. Obama never argued against the counterinsurgency field manual. I don’t think McCain proposed offering a super sweet deal to most of our adversaries in Iraq. If the surge is everything that the US tried since Sept 2006, then Obama did *not* oppose all of the surge and McCain did not advocate it. The point of disagreement between the two was US troop levels. If that is not key to “the surge” then McCain’s whole campaign is based on a bait and switch equivocation.
In fact, McCain has shown an extraordinary unwillingness to accept or understand the US choices which helped awaken the Iraqi Sunnis. Hell then and now he was pretending that we were and are fighting mostly al Qaeda in Iraq (to the point of claiming 3 times in 2 days the third in response to a challenge to the second that Iran is providing training to AQI terrorists). The key strategic insight behind the Sunni awakening is that we could separate the Iraqi controlled Sunni insurgents from the foreigner commanded (mostly Iraqi born) AQI fighters. Now this was not a new idea, the US had been negotiating with the Sunni insurgents for years, but it is one that McCain still can’t grasp and refuses to recognise.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:40 pmRobertSeattle Says:
Note to Pols: Don’t make statement in the BALONEY AISLE of the grocery store.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
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I was thinking the same thing. Obama’s giving speeches on hilltops in Palestine and McCain’s giving speeches in aisle 14 of the Piggly Wiggly.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pmYou know, I was thinking about that. Their excuse for not seeing any direct reduction of violence for the first 6 - 8 months after January 2007 was that “well, the whole surge force isn’t in place yet, so we have nothing to report.”
but also — and I think this is on-topic, though a long short — has it occurred to anyone that it is *insane* for any party to be running a guy for president who makes 3 - 4 major geographical, historical, political and other gaffes per day? Everyone knows the right doesn’t like McThuseleh (my vote for best name so far, TOH to BadMoodMan), so why are they even going through the motions of running him? My long shot: the Repugnicans will pick a cheney/rumsfeld-type VP (or, better yet, a GWB-like VP who won’t think once — much less twice — about whatever they want him to do), who will deliver to the president pro tempore of the senate a letter signed by the VEEP and a majority of McCain’s shill cabinet saying that McCain is unable to discharge the duties of the presidency, citing his gaffes as evidence of McCain’s dementia, and become the “acting president” until McCain dies or another president is elected at the end of McCain’s term. That’s my pick for why the Repugs are even trying; in the unlikely event that McCain wins, it won’t matter that he flip-flopped on every issue he’s had an opportunity to come to two opinions about, it won’t matter that he’s a war monger, and it won’t matter that he can’t keep countries, “surges”, or anything else straight. The Repugs will have the White House, and have whoever they want in there. Romney perhaps?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pmbetter yet, Sen. Libelman. Think Bush gave israel the “yellow light” to attack Iran? With McThuseleh and Libelman in office, they’ll have their faces painted on each bomb, with a personal message to Ahmadinejad.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:00 pmJim, care to provide a link to your “story” about Obama’s so-called “gaffe”?
What’s your opinion on McCain’s mental competency? Is being coherent just a “bonus” quality when it comes to Presidential hopefuls?
July 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pmMcCain sticks to the American people in two ways: Spewing propaganda and using the food nobody can afford to buy as a backdrop.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:03 pmMaybe he’s hoping to lose the nomination at the convention? There have to be more than a few Republicriminal delegates who…
July 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pmNever mind.
RobertSeattle Says:
“Note to Pols: Don’t make statement in the BALONEY AISLE of the grocery store.”
ATTENTION SHOPPERS!
July 24th, 2008 at 2:14 pmATTENTION SHOPPERS!
We have a Piggly Wiggly special on McCain Baloney in Aisle 9! Buy one, get one free!
pete,
I have heard a variation of that theme more than once. McAlzheimer will “find” a reason, a medical condition, something that would prevent him running and the Repugs will choose a new candidate. Maybe a Romney.
Especially if Obama’s lead in the polls widens to 15 - 20% before convention time.
Not that it matters. The Repugs could have Jesus as their candidate and Gandhi as the VP and they would get their asses handed to them. That’s the real legacy of Bush.
Not that either of those guys would associate themselves with Repugs in any way.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:33 pmStraight out of Monty Python.
“Our chief weapon is the surge… no, our two chief weapons are the surge, and the pre-surge surge. Our three chief weapons…. Oh, I’ll come in again.”
July 24th, 2008 at 2:45 pmnanlichi,
I try to remain optimistic as well. Logically, the Dems could run the Devil himself and win. But I won’t sleep easy till I see KO announce the landslide.
When I feel pessimistic I look at polls for contested House/Senate races. Even if McSpin steals the election, he will have to deal with a “veto proof” majority. With any luck that will keep the neocons from doing too much more damage.
We have to remind ourselves that there are strengths in our system designed to keep greedy fools from destroying the country. Unfortunately, people were not paying attention and we ended up with a tyrant in office. That surprising fact has still not reached 20%-30% of the country.
But most of us are no longer surprised. It appears that everyone is trying to hold their breath till the election, aside from the occasional venting on blogs and such. But I think that the rest of the campaign, and the results, will tell us what needs to be done. Then it’s a matter of doing it.
My gut feeling is that we are up for the challenge. It’s just a question of how loud we have to be, to remind our elected officials that they can only act with the consent of the governed. I don’t think it would take much for us to remember how loud we can get.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:14 pm(Diabolical laughing)
July 24th, 2008 at 3:21 pm“Bwah-HA!
“Amongst our weaponry are such diverse weapons as…”
(Diabolical acting)
“Surge, surge, surge, surge! drilling and?”
(Murmuring amongst themselves)
“Secret SURGE!”
Is the Cheese Aisle a funnier/worse backdrop than the Green Jello speech backdrop?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pmpete,
Optimism is a great thing, I too am cautious after being burned twice in 8 years. After the first 4 years of Boy George, I didn’t think there was a chance of another. I underestimated the fear and religion factors.
There’s a website (in the UK I believe)where you can bet real money on the outcome of the election. Right now, the odds are 70% Obama and 30% McCaint. I like that better than a poll, it’s one thing to say what you will do, it’s another to put real cash on it.
I can provide a link if you’ld like.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pmnanlichi,
I stumbled across that site before. But I’m in the camp that holds that all bets are “sucker’s bets”. I’m a born-n-bred Mn Vikings fan. LOL. I KNOW better than to EVER bet a “sure thing”.
But, if a gun were put to my head, I’d still bet on Obama.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmpete,
Speaking of guns, I noticed earlier you confessed to chasing an occasional backstrap dinner. Do you still? That’s pretty rare around here.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pm