Yesterday, rap star Nas delivered a petition to Fox News’s Manhattan headquarters, calling on the network to “stop its racist smears against the Obamas and other Black Americans.” The petition, which was organized by Color of Change and MoveOn.org, was signed by over 620,000 people.
On his show last night, Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly claimed that MoveOn was “smearing Fox News.” “The latest smear from Moveon is telling their Koolaid drinking, zombie followers that FOX News is smearing Barack Obama and is a racist concern,” declared O’Reilly.
He then declared that “It is not a stretch to say MoveOn is the new Klan”:
O’REILLY: Obama must condemn organizations like MoveOn and DailyKos if he truly wants to run without a race component.
These are the people that are dividing Americans along racial lines. It is not a stretch to say MoveOn is the new Klan.
NPR’s Juan Williams and Republican consultant Angela McGlowan, agreed with him. Williams called the petition “fascist” while McGlowan thanked O’Reilly for his “jihad on these folks.” Watch it:
Despite O’Reilly, Williams and McGlowan’s denials, Fox News has engaged in racially offensive coverage of African-Americans. Just recently, a network anchor described a fist bump between Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and his wife as “a terrorist fist jab.” A Fox chyron once labeled Michelle Obama a “baby mama.”
Labeling his political foes as equivalent to the Ku Klux Klan is nothing new for O’Reilly, but every time he does it, he “trivializes the very real problems, the real violence and hatred, caused by the Klan.”
Transcript:
Hi, I’m Bill O’Reilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. Smearing FOX News, that is the subject of this evening’s Talking Points Memo. The far left billionaire George Soros has poured big money into the Moveon organization, which espouses a radical left agenda, and attacks those who oppose that nonsense. We have documented that for years. And frankly, Moveon is simply boring. Most honest folks stay away from those people.The latest smear from Moveon is telling their Koolaid drinking, zombie followers that FOX News is smearing Barack Obama and is a racist concern. Of course, that’s a lie. This broadcast and FNC in general has been exceedingly fair to Senator Obama.
Our conservative analysts oppose Obama. Our liberal analysts like him a lot. Our hard news people give the senator the benefit of the doubt.
In short, we’re fair. Our high ratings prove that, but we are not in the tank for Obama as NBC news is, for example. But in order to intimidate anyone from criticizing Obama in any way, Moveon is playing the race card. What swell people they are.
Now thankfully, few are buying the garbage. The only public person we know that’s helping Moveon smear FOX News is far left Congressman Robert Wexler.
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Now in the beginning of this campaign, I told you that any media using the race card would be scrutinized by us. And that includes folks who may attack Senator Obama on that basis, but we have seen little of that. Instead, the vile far left smear machines are trafficking in racial hate. And the Moveon campaign is a vivid example of that.
To his credit, Barack Obama has not made race an issue and was embarrassed when Jesse Jackson did that a few days ago. But Obama must condemn organizations like Moveon and DailyKos if he truly wants to run without a race component.
These are the people that are dividing Americans along racial lines. It is not a stretch to say Moveon is the new klan. And that’s the Memo.
Now for the top story tonight, reaction to this from FOX News analysts Angela Mcglowan in Memphis, Tennessee and Juan Williams in Washington, D.C.
You know, Juan, I’m getting a little tired of this.
JUAN WILLIAMS: I don’t blame you.
O’REILLY: You know, I mean, we’re — this is now the tactic on Moveon, Soros, NBC News, not all of NBC News, but you know who we’re talking about.
WILLIAMS: Yes, sure.
O’REILLY: It’s the tactic. FOX News is racist, based on nothing. And then to see a congressman like Wexler, the only one, by the way, the only one in the United States, to sign on to that, I’m starting to get a little teed off, Juan. You know?
WILLIAMS: Well, look, I got to tell you something. I get this personally. You know, why are you on FOX? Why do you go on O’Reilly? You know, that’s — I say, what’s the basis for this? What do you think? Oh, well, FOX once did this thing about a fist bump between Obama and his wife and that was a terrorist thing. Or FOX once said that it was, you know, your baby’s mama regarding Michelle Obama while she was on screen.
And therefore, FOX – I said wait a second, you mean to say that you didn’t catch it when Dan Rather was on MSNBC and was talking about Osama bin Laden? In fact, he was trying to refer to Barack Obama? You don’t catch it when The Washington Post runs an entire story about Obama’s Muslim roots and it stirs up all this kind of concern and consternation, in fact, confusion about his religious background? You don’t catch it when Osama bin Laden and Barack Obama are confused on NBC, even NBC?
I say what is the basis for your making this claim? It is fascist, Bill, fascist. They don’t want anybody to speak any word that differs from theirs. They have their own political agenda. And they’re using this to make FOX a whipping boy…
O’REILLY: Absolutely, absolutely.
WILLIAMS: …to demonize everybody who appears on this network.
O’REILLY: But the larger agenda, Angela, is if they can call you a racist…
ANGELA MCGLOWAN, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Yes.
O’REILLY: …for any criticism of Barack Obama, any at all, OK, then you can eliminate the criticism.
MCGLOWAN: Listen, the bottom line is this, Bill. The truth crushed to the ground will rise again, but a lie will never stand. Moveon.org, this isn’t new. They did out FOX on Capitol Hill, bashing Rupert Murdoch and FOX News. Also, you had a coalition of people writing the FTC to take
fair and balanced away from FOX News. We have been number one in diversity. You even spoke before the National Action Network, Al Sharpton’s group, on bias in the media, Bill.
The bottom line is this. We have to stand fast, do what we’re doing, and I’m glad that you’re doing this jihad on these folks, but we have to hold people accountable. And where was Obama and Moveon.org when FOX News partnered with the Black Caucus in 2004 to do the first Democrat presidential debate? Obama refused to it this time and it killed the deal.
O’REILLY: OK. You know, the tactic is despicable. As Angela said, I mean, we’re not going to give in the inner workings and bore you with that, but FOX leads the league in diversity, leads the league in helping minorities, not only African-Americans, but all minorities across the board.
MCGLOWAN: Hispanics, women.
O’REILLY: A tremendous amount of money in that regard. Our staff is all colors, all ideologies. But these people have no – you see, this is what disturbs me, Juan. No one challenges them but us. No one challenges Moveon, and the Kos, and Media Matters. All these people are in together. It’s a big, big cabal.
Gawd. Billo has to be the stupidist human being on the planet.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:25 pmAfter reading your posts, I’d say that you are the stupidest
July 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pmhuman being on the planet…
aceomalley7 Says:
After reading your posts, I’d say that you are the stupidest
human being on the planet…
July 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
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Talking to yourself is a sign of mental illness. Have you remembered to take your meds today?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pmProjecting again, Ass?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:30 pm‘Koolaid Drinking, Zombie Followers’
– - Mmmmmm, Kool-Aid and Cheetos. Mmmmm…..
July 24th, 2008 at 3:30 pmBildo is a total waste. But I had thought that Juan Williams was smarter than that. Lately, he just looks like an Uncle Tom.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:31 pmace,
I know you are but what am I?
Rubber, Glue…
Wah wah wah.
Back to the topic at hand, this accusation of “being the new Klan” is really rich come from Bill “I couldn’t get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia’s restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it’s run by blacks, primarily black patronship. There wasn’t one person in Sylvia’s who was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’” O’Reilly.
Yeah, Bill, DailyKos is racist, not you. You’re right.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:32 pmHow can a petition asking for fairness to a minority group be considered ‘fascist’? I don’t get the logic here.
Is Juan Willams down the rabbit hole too?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pmaceomalley7 is still silly
July 24th, 2008 at 3:34 pmI have a couple of observations here. First, referring to any person or any organization as “the Klan” tends to cheapen that term. Last I checked, neither DailyKos nor MoveOn was lynching anyone.
Second, it’s not racist to point out blatant racism. The reality is that the both of the Obamas have been subjected to slurs from Fox News that would NEVER have been thrown at them had they been white. Barack is supposed to condemn MoveOn because they are condemning Fox for saying things like “terrorist fist jab”? Or referring to Michelle as a “baby mama”? Please.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:34 pmOh and need I remind everyone that DailyKos and MoveOn.org both endorse and back Obama?
And so somehow, they’re racist?
Who do you support again Bill? Oh right, another old white guy for President. Not that voting for McCain makes anyone a racist (stupid, yes), but since voting for Obama apparently does…rubber glue and all that…right ace?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:34 pmaceomalley7 Says:
After reading your posts, I’d say that you are the stupidest
human being on the planet…
No way…You are the first chair in that orchestra. Hands down. Got plastic sheets?
Boo! …and he runs away like a scalded dog.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:36 pmmiss molly:
July 24th, 2008 at 3:36 pmExactly. They can’t even get that straight. I mean, Obama is supposed to condemn and disavow organizations that are DEFENDING him against what they perceive as racist attacks? WTF?
“over 620,000 people.” telling Dildo O’reilly to STFU. If I were him, i wouldn’t walk alone through the streets of New York for quite awhile.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:37 pm15. And those are just the people who signed the petition. I’m sure there are 100’s of thousands more who would have but didn’t even know about it.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:37 pmStratRat Says:
How can a petition asking for fairness to a minority group be considered ‘fascist’? I don’t get the logic here.
Is Juan Willams down the rabbit hole too?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
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Juan Williams is a tool. With all the exceptional journalists who work for NPR, I don’t understand why the mediocre Juan Williams is the one always doing the pundit shows and degrading himself on Fox. Why is that?
Or did I just answer my own question?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:38 pmMore people want Dildo O’reilly to shut up than watch him nightly. hhhhhmmmmmmm
July 24th, 2008 at 3:39 pmFunny, very funny, the Fascist calling Moveon Fascist. This is total 1984 speak, they spew racism then claim that it isn’t really racism, just FAR FROM BALANCED.
Hope he eats more steak and potatoes, he needs a little surprise in the middle of the night.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:39 pmHyperbole much?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:39 pmThe right is losing their minds.
I signed it this morning. http://www.colorofchange.org
July 24th, 2008 at 3:40 pmaceomalley7
The trolls are rabidly frustrated that we’re finally getting through to more people. This is their attempt to block us from savoring the moment.
For all the loads you choose to drop here, aceomalley, your sewer bill must be quite low. But at the same time, so is your RNC paycheck.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:40 pmIsn’t Kool Aid also a racist term? I thought I had heard it used as a slur once.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:40 pmassomalley7 Says:
After reading your posts, I’d say that I’m the stupidest
human being on the planet…
there fixed it for you
July 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pmIt’s just more psychological projection by Mr. O’Reilly onto others. Heck of a projection job, Mr. Bill.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pmOr did I just answer my own question?
Yes you did….You are right, always on Fox there is Juan. Is he supposed to be the token progressive on the panel? If so, he doesn’t quite make us proud.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pmO’REILLY: Our staff is all colors, all ideologies. _________________________________________________
I remember during the civil rights struggles of the early sixties, how many businesses claimed they weren’t racist because “we have a Negro working here!” O’Reilly’s declaration sounds eerily like the tokenism of an older era.
Just having non-whites on your staff doesn’t mean you can’t be racially insulting on the air.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pmJuan Williams is a damned tool.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:42 pmInteresting strategy on the part of FUX Noose, to get two minority commentators to call organizations advocating equal rights for minorities “fascist”…eh?
Self-loathing much?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:42 pmSounds like Juan Williams is getting testy from the abuse he must get from his NPR colleagues for taking Murdoch’s money to be the token black guy on Fox.
As for Bill-O, if he doesn’t watch out with this “just like the Klan” rubbish he is going to end up with a corollary to Godwin’s Law named after him.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pm25 Buckie Boy Says:
*sheepish*
Thanks for fixing my typo in “stupidest,” Buckie – nice to know you’ve got my back!!
~A
July 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pmO’REILLY: Our staff is all colors, all ideologies…(O’lielly saying under his breath) as long as they are totally like me in color and ideology.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pmWow, it’s almost as though they coordinate this together or something:
Ben Stein compares Obama to Hitler due to planned DNC acceptance speech in front of 75,000. “Well, that’s something the Fuehrer would have done.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807240001?f=h_latest
So we have people on Fox calling Obama a terrorist, a closet Muslim, and a KLAN SYMPATHIZER essentially (which is so fu(king hilarious it hurts), and then on CNN we have others comparing him to Hitler, and then on MSNBC (MSNBC!!! You know, the ‘liberal’ one?) defending ALL of McCain’s gaffes…
Explain to me again how Obama is the darliing of a fawning liberal media?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pmFew people know Billdo Falafel can irritate, regurgitate, imitate, and masturbate all at the same time.
Wait! Wouldn’t that take opposable thumbs?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pmIf Billo is the “norm,” I’m proud to be a Koolaid Drinking Zombie.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:49 pmScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says
July 24th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Isn’t Kool Aid also a racist term? I thought I had heard it used as a slur once.
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I hadn’t heard of it used as a racist term (but I suppose anything’s possible).
I am more familiar with the Jim Jones context. His followers drank cyanide-laced Kool Aid (actually it was Flavor-Aid, but Kool Aid has been getting the bum rap for it) at his command, and committed mass suicide. “Drinking the Kool Aid” has become a euphemism for anyone who mindlessly follows an ideologue like a lemming without question.
Both sides of the political spectrum use it to describe the sock puppets on the other side of the fence.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pmIf these Fox Noise personalities didn’t have names to throw around they wouldn’t have anything to say at all because they don’t have facts or good arguments to back them up, just name calling and character assassinations.
And they call themselves news….in their world up is down, right is left, green is purples, etc. 1984 indeed.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pmZimzone:
No, not really. When his ‘reporters’ aren’t out ambushing people like Wexler, they’re ‘assisting’ Bill-O with his ’stage preparations.’
It’s in their contracts. Gotta read the fine print.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pmScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
Isn’t Kool Aid also a racist term? I thought I had heard it used as a slur once.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
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Racist? Nah, that doesn’t make sense, unless there’s a new definition somewhere in the vernacular. In this context, it’s a reference to the Jonestown Massacre, in which people drank poison in order to blindly follow their leader.
Of course, it’s a bit of a misnomer, since the Peoples’ Temple followers drank Flavor-Aid, not Kool-Aid. But that’s the derivation.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pmWell played, MissMolly… :(
July 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pmBillo’s ratings keep slippin’, slippin’, slippin’…
Proud to say I have never watched him. What a stinkin’ loser.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pmBillO Claims ‘MoveOn Is The New Klan’ And Its Supporters Are ‘Koolaid Drinking, Zombie Followers’ blah, blah, blah.
Desperate idiots will take desperate measures. BillO has to work off his 10 million sexual harrassment lawsuit. It’s hard out there for the blowhard pimp.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:53 pmonly a bit OT, just wanted to throw this out…
listening to edschultz earlier while working outside…
2 callers, back to back, relating what must be the latest talking points:
1. barack obama is so popular in europe because he is a socialist like they are.
2. why hasn’t barack obama been to the veterans hospitals to visit? – because the vets don’t want to see his face, they hate him.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:53 pmThe difference between billo and zombies is that zombies want brains…
July 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pmps – did you see Nas on COLBERT last night, doing his fox rap…
July 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pmpretty good… but i need the lyrics…
katy,
Hate to break it to you, and to them I suppose, but those talking points are hardly the latest.
Democrat=socialist
Democrat=hates the troops
Those are pretty old actually, but somehow still in Vogue.
Yawn.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pmI’m a move-on.org member in good standing! I say we sue him for slander! What a putz! Who elected him God? Bill O’Reilly is one of the main reasons we need a move-on!
July 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Last I checked, neither DailyKos nor MoveOn was lynching anyone.
No, but they have sure hung sociopathic, right-wing, extremists like Bill O’Reilly out to dry.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pmAh, Dribbledick is back.
That’s cute. You defend O’REILLY and yet you cannot even spell O’REILLY correctly.
You almost got that gold star for the day, little buddy, almost. But you know what they say, if at first you don’t succeed you are a dumba$$ troll.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
O’rielly about nailed it.
What has he about “nailed”, crippledick, the final nail in his career coffin?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pmaceomalley7 Says:
After reading your posts, I’d say that you are the stupidest
human being on the planet…
July 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Why is it you and all the other morons on the right can only smear, make accusations, turn all what is wrong with you onto the truth seeking fact finders? We simply state facts… you can only sling mud. You and the others are falling fast as you have no truthful facts giving you structured support.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
O’rielly about nailed it.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
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Proving the age-old adage – when all you have is a loofah, every intern looks like a nail.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmPot, meet kettle.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmMaybe we should go easy on them…
It must be tough watching their failed, despicable, violent, depraved, and psychotic ideology and leaders fall down around their ears.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmI loves me some Koolaid.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pmHere’s a great new idea for the Fox News lineup: The Uncle Tom and Uncle Bill Show!
Serious, Williams thinks it’s OK to equate SIGNING PETITIONS to burning crosses and lynching black men? I think even good ol’ Uncle Tom had his limits.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmWe need a petition to NPR to drop Juan Williams. This guy is a complete joke and is so intellectually dishonest that it’s sickening. It’s one thing with Bill’O, but the fact that Juan gets to slink back and forth between NPR and Fox propaganda is disgusting.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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O’rielly about nailed it.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Yeah
Almost as well as he nailed Andrea Mackris ……..
July 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
O’rielly about nailed it.
But then he hung up the phone and got sued.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmTripleKick 2
Can we all agree to not respond to trolls whose handles sound like straight-to-video jean claude van damme movies?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWhen it comes to oliar I’ll paraphrase Barney Fife:
July 24th, 2008 at 4:07 pmI think he’s a nut.
tony and lido
BillO has lost it again. What would his reality make the zombies who tune into his twilight zone each day to watch him make a fool of himself?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:07 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
“O’rielly about nailed it.”
It? Juan Williams?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmOut to work but I can’t leave without props to Tweedster @ 63. Definately my fav of the day!
July 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmMcGlowan thanked O’Reilly for his “jihad on these folks.”
July 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pmDoesn’t that make o’Reilly one of those terrorists Fox is always fear-mongering about?
Who pays Juan Williams check. Of course he has to defend massa. After January Williams is going to go the way of so many of America’s bubbleheaded corporate media hacks.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmAt one time I thought the Repuke party stood for something…something being anything they truly believed in. Now I will bet there is not one truthful moral issue they can claim to support. All we see are lies, smears and issues they are the most guilty of throwing the blame onto the Dems.
It is no wonder why their numbers are falling fast.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmThree people agreeing that Fox News is awesome. On Fox News. Fair and Balanced, as usual.
What a joke.
~Sean
July 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pmBill O’Reilly is but one of many modern day Father Coughlin’s. A race baiting right wing anti-intellectual radio personality of the 30’s who had a wide following. America eventually saw through Coughlins ignorance and hate. Hopefully O’Reilly et al will suffer the same fate as this midwestern fascist.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pmreally? what flavor? grape? i am happy to be a koolaid drinkin’ zombie.
muuuuuuuuust driiiiink koooooolaid
July 24th, 2008 at 4:32 pmNow is this Kool Aid purple? The only Kool Aid this zombie is drinking is some purple. That was Fox’s first mistake with me, man. Serving sugar-free lemonade is no way to get my support. It is becoming increasingly difficult to respond to such poor and corrupted broadcasting in any intelligent manner. I get so flabbergasted by the sheer audacity of it all that I am often left completely speechless.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pmJim Wilke Says:
Yes, let’s silence everyone who doesn’t agree with us. It’s the conservative way!
fixed.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pmJim Wilke Says:
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We need a petition to NPR to drop Juan Williams
Yes, let’s silence everyone who doesn’t agree with us. It’s the American way!
July 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
It’s the Bush administration’s way ; have you finally caught on that they are not Americans , chowderhead ?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
I am more familiar with the Jim Jones context. His followers drank cyanide-laced Kool Aid (actually it was Flavor-Aid, but Kool Aid has been getting the bum rap for it) at his command, and committed mass suicide. “Drinking the Kool Aid” has become a euphemism for anyone who mindlessly follows an ideologue like a lemming without question.
I’ve been associating it with the Merry Pranksters’ LSD-laced Kool-Aid. As in, “You must be trippin’” or “You are hallucinating” or “You may think you can fly, but you don’t actually have wings” or “You’d have to be on acid to understand this logic.” You know, psychotic to the point of hurting yourself or others.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pmSame thing except you can’t come down from a suicide.
TripleKick 2 Says:
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Typical of the stalinist left to sign some non-binding petition in a pathetic attempt to silence speech that they don’t agree with. Forget about letting people chose for themselves what to watch or listen to, after all that strategy never really works out does it? Given that O’reilly has been number 1 on cable news for something like seven years straight, clearly viewers have been making a poor decision by watching him and its up to the self-righteous extremists like MoveOn to silence his dangerous voice.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
The FCC is the brainchild of cancervative morons like yourself and the Jim Winkie imbecile , WrinkledPits ….
BTW
Stalinism is the political regime named after Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union from 1929–1953. It includes an extensive use of propaganda to establish a personality cult around an absolute dictator, as well as extensive use of the secret police to maintain social submission and silence political dissent.
That sounds oddly more like what you Chimpy Adoration Brigade nitwits adhere to.
PS
Claiming that O’Lielly isw “No#1″ on cable is really hilarious ; his viewing audience is shrinking to begin with , and it still isn’t even half the viewership of one of the nightly major network newscasts………..
July 24th, 2008 at 4:51 pmJim Wilke Says:
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And name-calling! Let’s add some random deflections and complete the trifecta!
The audacity of trivial.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Or we can just reply without actually saying anything …Exactly like you just did.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:52 pmawr1999 Says:
Jim Wilke Says:
Yes, let’s silence everyone who doesn’t agree with us
Like the way Bob Edwards was silenced?
jimmy,
you walked into that one.
:)
good luck.
*
July 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmUncle Juan seems to get more fragile every day what with all the criticism directed at him for groveling at the feet of small minded bigots and all. There was a time when he used to stand up a little bit against the idiocy of the senior commentators. Now he seems like a beaten puppy.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pmJim wilke is just a mctroll. Ignore it, it will go away.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:58 pmThanks MissMolly and Toasterhead,
I think it might have been something really local in my school or neighborhood when I was a kid. I seem to recall some reference to the African-American girls who dyed their hair purple or red using Kool Aid (because they couldn’t afford real hair color?). I have no idea. Childhood was too long ago… I can barely remember what I had for breakfast!
July 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pmJim & Trip:
July 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pmWhat’s unfair is censorship. Bill O’Reilly makes a vicious personal attack on an organization, and MoveOn is prevented from responding to that accusation.
They can’t even buy time on the station to respond. They have tried.
And I know your knee-jerk response is, “It’s their station, they can do what they want.”
Which means they don’t have to honor freedom of speech.
But we do.
The perfect Republican equation.
“The latest smear from Moveon is telling their Koolaid drinking, zombie followers
well, thank heavens Bildo doesn’t do “personal attacks”.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pm“This broadcast and FNC in general has been exceedingly fair.”.. That’s an interesting choice of words. That means they were too fair? That they could have stopped with just being fair, but went the extra mile, to the “exceedingly fair” zone. Not just fair, but EXTRA fair. Apparently, fair to the point that it was painful to them. Still, they may want to go just a little further in their efforts. I say FNC strive for “super-duper fair”. Umm.. it may mean they have to change everyone from the top down. Billo’s first to go.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:02 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
MCMETAL says
Claiming that O’Lielly isw “No#1? on cable is really hilarious
It may be funny to you, however it is also factual.
Cheers.
missed this one.
sorry.
:)
cheers.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 5:03 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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MCMETAL says
Claiming that O’Lielly isw “No#1? on cable is really hilarious
It may be funny to you, however it is also factual.
Cheers.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
He’s also been LOSING viewers ; and as I FACTUALLY wrote in my last post , his viewership isn’t even half that of one of the major network news programs , nitwit………..
July 24th, 2008 at 5:03 pmI thought Foxer news fans were the zombies……its a war I suppose
July 24th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI know, I know, we’re not supposed to respond to trolls whose handles sound like straight-to-video jean claude van damme movies (awesome, Tweedster), but I have to point out that this troll is especially confused.
On the one hand, he claims the left is “stalinist” because it circulates a petition.
On the other hand, he belittles the petition as a “pathetic attempt”.
Does this clown know anything about Stalin?
July 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmjimmy,
here’s a little
music to go with
your whine.
*
cheers.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 5:08 pmJim Wilke Says:
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pbg – Give me a break. Think McCain can respond to Olbermann or Air America?
Pundits give their opinions. Don’t like it, hit the remote. But don’t whine about how “unfair” it is.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Then don’t lie about FAUX being “Fair and Balanced” or that they are a “news channel” ; news is supposed to be factual and informative , of which FAUX is neither……………
July 24th, 2008 at 5:08 pmYour site uses fascism, ours uses BOYCOTTS. If you don’t like it, well that’s one more point for us.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm92. nycbassist
July 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pmSuper-DEE-duper!
TripleKick 2 Says:
O’rielly about nailed it.
Well then, you should go to his site and kiss his ass.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:22 pmTripleKick 2, If by extreme leftist you mean power-mad megalomaniac indifferent to others’ suffering, you just about nailed it, Stalin was an extreme leftist. And remember, when you just about nail it, it means you just smashed your thumb with a hammer.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
MCMETAL says
Claiming that O’Lielly isw “No#1? on cable is really hilarious
It may be funny to you, however it is also factual.
I wonder how many TV’s Murdoch’s bunch has ‘purchased’ to only show Fox 24/7 and how that is reflected in ratings?
Does a #1 show indicate the intelligence (or lack thereof) of the show? Or is it indicative of the intelligence (or lack thereof) of the watchers?
If the National Enquirer is #1, does that make all it’s articles true?
Sometimes TripleDick, facts only produce more questions – at least when your open minded.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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MCMetal,
You were clearly misinformed and wrong about O’reilly being number one on cable news. Try to educate yourself before firing off your mouth.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
How was I “wrong” and “misinformed” clown shoes ?
BTW
I find it laughable that you attempt to chastise others and claim they be ‘educated’ and that they not ‘fire off their mouth’ ; got a mirror handy ?
You are the most idiotic , uninformed clod that posts here ; and your sad little rants read like a tantrum being thrown by the retarded simian in the Oval Office whom you idolize ……
July 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
MCMetal,
You were clearly misinformed and wrong about O’reilly being number one on cable news. Try to educate yourself before firing off your mouth.
poor tk,
bad day, eh?
here’s some good
old conservative rock ‘n roll
to make you feel better.
*
feel better?
good.
:)
now get out there and soar,
soar like you never soared before!
#
July 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmTrickleDick has a bit of an attitude today, don’ he?
I don’t see anything resembling a “know-it-all lecture” in my post. Can you identify it for me? I’d hate to repeat such a mistake.
If TricklyDick equates a petition with “Stalinist” suppression of speech, the Trickly One has some serious calibration problems on his Metaphor Gauge.
Careful, there, Trickly. You’re leaving yourself nowhere to go. Suppose moveon starts actually boycotting advertisers? If a petition is “Stalinist” then a friggin’ boycott must be… (quick! What’s worse than “Stalinist”?)
July 24th, 2008 at 5:33 pmThanks ever so much for your concern. We’ll try to do better.
I must confess I was not aware that Stalin controlled speech through expansive use of petitioning.
Learn something new every day. thanks.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmCry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pmralph the wonder llama,
this tk’s place is in the sky.
he’s still got a lot of flying to do.
you can see it in his eye,
though he’s cried a bit
for what we’ve put him though.
:)
good luck.
@
July 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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As well MCMetal, if you read your own source – it says “For the first time ever”, and it’s a month and a half old.
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
As for Triplekick, he’s actually “nailed it on the head” when it comes to Stalin. If you don’t believe me, pick up a history book.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
If this is a forum for intellectual discussion , why are you here ?
1st off , I didn’t “source” anything ; not being able to read someone’s post correctly sure as hell doesn’t give you any credibility , nor does it allow you to claim any type of ’slander’ towards a walking colostomy bag like O’Lielly.
And for your information , I already posted this earlier :
Stalinism is the political regime named after Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union from 1929–1953. It includes an extensive use of propaganda to establish a personality cult around an absolute dictator, as well as extensive use of the secret police to maintain social submission and silence political dissent.
The above sounds like those who have backed , and continue to back , the worst president in US history in Chimpy ; perhaps you should have attended your local library a lot more than erroneously trying to belittle others that they have not read any or enough history books……..
July 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWe’ll try to live up to your standards, indy. I admire your reluctance to call names. It must come from the “complete goodness” of your heart.
I think I may cry. Excuse me.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmindyjones,
i don’t mind being a savant.
you can keep the rest.
:)
i won’t call him “bildo”
but “loofah” and “falafel”
are names that mean something
to us and to bill as well,
agreed?
*
thank you.
$
July 24th, 2008 at 5:42 pmI see you conveniently left out the part about suppressing free speech through the expansive use of petitions.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:43 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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indyjones Says:
Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
We’ll try to live up to your standards, indy. I admire your reluctance to call names. It must come from the “complete goodness” of your heart.
I think I may cry. Excuse me.
That’s right, Ralph. You have seen me around. I don’t call names and never will. There is no room that type of behavior in any adult conversation.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmindyjones Says:
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Cry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Goodness in the heart is pretty meaningless when you have nothing in the head (as you have just revealed of yourself) ; who the hell are you ?
Because you find the names and adaptations of such as “dumb” , means what ?
Of what importance are you on any level , much less what you are and represent here at TP ?
Don’t like them , find another site , assbag……………
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmCry_Havoc Says:
…And BTW, this IS a racist (of and pertaining to) campaign. How many votes has Obama received because he IS BLACK. It’s a “Campaign for Change”, and that change includes electing the first BLACK president. It includes polling voters on the basis of the candidates race (or gender, for that matter, w/ Hillary).
Until we get past this name-calling (Bildo, “baby-mama”, Tricklydick) we are not ready for change. We are only promulgating “Klan-ish” ideology.
Get over yourselves and “Move on”.
what exactly do you mean
when you write “move on”?
*
thank you.
$
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmInteresting. We have competing Concern Trolls. This is unusual.
Let’s see what happens.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Stalinism is the political regime named after Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union from 1929–1953. It includes an extensive use of propaganda to establish a personality cult around an absolute dictator, as well as extensive use of the secret police to maintain social submission and silence political dissent.
I see you conveniently left out the part about suppressing free speech through the expansive use of petitions.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I’ll be sure to sue Wikipedia for that egregious error………
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pmCry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm Recommend (0) | Give me a friggin break, it was your boy Gengrich who wrote a book on nastiness in politics. I don’t want to even attempt to count how many times I’ve seen the all so original “libtard”on this site.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I see you conveniently left out the part about suppressing free speech through the expansive use of petitions.
Nice pun, Ralph. “Left”. Heh.
I understand that the gulags were single-spaced petitions.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:46 pmshould read the book
July 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmindyjones Says:
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
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indyjones Says:
Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
We’ll try to live up to your standards, indy. I admire your reluctance to call names. It must come from the “complete goodness” of your heart.
I think I may cry. Excuse me.
That’s right, Ralph. You have seen me around. I don’t call names and never will. There is no room that type of behavior in any adult conversation.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
According to whom ?
You ?
Tell that to Stewart , Colbert and Maher ; they’ll all tell you to take a flying fu(k on the moon , and rightfully so…….But thanks for your insiginificant contribution anyway , Ms Manners.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmOh, dear.. it appears indyjones may be irony-deficient…
July 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmMCMetal Says:
indyjones Says:
Cry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Goodness in the heart is pretty meaningless when you have nothing in the head (as you have just revealed of yourself) ; who the hell are you ? I am an American, my friend, just like you.
Because you find the names and adaptations of such as “dumb” , means what ? I was making a suggestion to you – not from a place of hate but a place of love – a gesture from one friend to another.
Of what importance are you on any level , much less what you are and represent here at TP ? I think all people are important, McMetal. ALL. Personally, I am not going to marginalize or dismiss another person’s viewpoints based on any reasons – whether that be race, income, sex, sexual orientation.
Don’t like them , find another site , assbag…………… Come on, my friend, let’s not hurl insults.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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livelongandprosper,
I agree with you, my point was only that the constant attacks on O’reilly’s show aren’t having an impact. He remains dominant. I make no conclusions about his accuracy, etc.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Dominant means not losing ; the loofah man has lost recently to Olberman , as you have been shown , imbecile………
July 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pmindyjones Says:
Come on, my friend, let’s not hurl insults.
indyjones is McCain? I knew they were trying to bring the old guy up to speed on the Innernets, but this is impressive.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:51 pmMCM, I don’t think you should be so hard on indyjones… after all, this is what he’s here for — to express his Concern for us without resorting to calling us names like “immature, rabid savants”. There’s no room in polite adult conversation for anything of that sort.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:51 pmMCMetal Says:
indyjones Says:
ralph the wonder llama Says:
indyjones Says:
Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
We’ll try to live up to your standards, indy. I admire your reluctance to call names. It must come from the “complete goodness” of your heart.
I think I may cry. Excuse me.
That’s right, Ralph. You have seen me around. I don’t call names and never will. There is no room that type of behavior in any adult conversation.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
According to whom ?
You ?
Tell that to Stewart , Colbert and Maher ; they’ll all tell you to take a flying fu(k on the moon , and rightfully so…….But thanks for your insiginificant contribution anyway , Ms Manners. I would like to think that they would conduct themselves with greater dignity. However, if they were to use such a tone with me, I would more than likely ask them to please refrain from using profanity when speaking to me. If they still continued to speak to me like that, I suspect me and Mr. Colbert or Mr. Maher might need to have a walk, a talk and a looksie.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:52 pmgoodbye jimmy,
good luck.
#
July 24th, 2008 at 5:53 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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MCM, I don’t think you should be so hard on indyjones… after all, this is what he’s here for — to express his Concern for us without resorting to calling us names like “immature, rabid savants”. There’s no room in polite adult conversation for anything of that sort. Reread my post, Ralph. I did not call you immature, rabid savants. I said, it portrays you as immature, rabid savants. Portrayal and reality are two sepearate and very distinct things. Hope this helps.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:54 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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livelongandprosper,
I agree with you, my point was only that the constant attacks on O’reilly’s show aren’t having an impact. He remains dominant. I make no conclusions about his accuracy, etc.
Ha ha. When O’Reilly goes off on these tirades, labeling MoveOn as “the Klan”, the impact is pretty obvious. The petition achieved the result of getting him to explode with his moronic remarks and set himself up for ridicule.
Big frog in a very small pond over there on cable.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:54 pmindyjones Says:
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MCMetal Says:
indyjones Says:
Cry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Goodness in the heart is pretty meaningless when you have nothing in the head (as you have just revealed of yourself) ; who the hell are you ? I am an American, my friend, just like you.
Because you find the names and adaptations of such as “dumb” , means what ? I was making a suggestion to you – not from a place of hate but a place of love – a gesture from one friend to another.
Of what importance are you on any level , much less what you are and represent here at TP ? I think all people are important, McMetal. ALL. Personally, I am not going to marginalize or dismiss another person’s viewpoints based on any reasons – whether that be race, income, sex, sexual orientation.
Don’t like them , find another site , assbag…………… Come on, my friend, let’s not hurl insults.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
1st off , John McStupid wanna’ be ; I ain’t your “friend”.
2nd I have a “suggestion” ; don’t like what’s in particular posts ? Then , scroll by them.
3rd You are laughably delusional ; ALL PEOPLE DO NOT MATTER.
I have no concern , sympathy or caring whatsoever for the Neo-cons/cancervatives/Chimpy backers , that have destroyed the US and continue to support the worst and most dishonest president and administration in US history.
BTW
An ADULT can deal with certain aspects that he or she might not find as ‘tasteful’ , without needing to mention it , and claiming their way is better and/or what they find not to their liking , is “wrong”……………..
July 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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MCM, I don’t think you should be so hard on indyjones…
Ralph, MCM is not being hard on me. We are old friends who are engaged in good, healthy dialogue to to try and find truth.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:56 pmCry_Havoc,
you lost the thread by
bringing in uncited quotes
and accusing someone here
of lynching poor, defenseless
tk. where has this happened?
*
you must let logic and reason
rule your thinking. that way you
can soar, soar like you’ve never
soared before!
+
thank you.
^
July 24th, 2008 at 5:58 pmMCMetal Says:
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indyjones Says:
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MCMetal Says:
indyjones Says:
Cry_Havoc Says:
For the rest of you, I’m not an O’Reilly fan myself, however calling him names like Bildo cheapens yourselves. This is suppossed to be a forum for intellectual discussion, not slander.
Thank you Cry, for brining this to the attention of the board. Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Goodness in the heart is pretty meaningless when you have nothing in the head (as you have just revealed of yourself) ; who the hell are you ? I am an American, my friend, just like you.
Because you find the names and adaptations of such as “dumb” , means what ? I was making a suggestion to you – not from a place of hate but a place of love – a gesture from one friend to another.
Of what importance are you on any level , much less what you are and represent here at TP ? I think all people are important, McMetal. ALL. Personally, I am not going to marginalize or dismiss another person’s viewpoints based on any reasons – whether that be race, income, sex, sexual orientation.
Don’t like them , find another site , assbag…………… Come on, my friend, let’s not hurl insults.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
1st off , John McStupid wanna’ be ; I ain’t your “friend”.
2nd I have a “suggestion” ; don’t like what’s in particular posts ? Then , scroll by them.
3rd You are laughably delusional ; ALL PEOPLE DO NOT MATTER.
I have no concern , sympathy or caring whatsoever for the Neo-cons/cancervatives/Chimpy backers , that have destroyed the US and continue to support the worst and most dishonest president and administration in US history.
BTW
An ADULT can deal with certain aspects that he or she might not find as ‘tasteful’ , without needing to mention it , and claiming their way is better and/or what they find not to their liking , is “wrong”……………..
Ok, I will stop referring to you as my friend but I refuse to be anything but friendly to you. I respect your viewpoints but believe they are very much off base with that of a liogical human being. All people DO matter, McMetal. Also, it is difficult to scroll by the “names” when they are everywhere.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pmindyjones Says:
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MCMetal Says:
indyjones Says:
ralph the wonder llama Says:
indyjones Says:
Libs, I say this with complete goodness in my heart: you really should stop with the names and adaptations of names. Approx. 99.9% of them are dumb and portray you as immature, rabid, savants.
We’ll try to live up to your standards, indy. I admire your reluctance to call names. It must come from the “complete goodness” of your heart.
I think I may cry. Excuse me.
That’s right, Ralph. You have seen me around. I don’t call names and never will. There is no room that type of behavior in any adult conversation.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
According to whom ?
You ?
Tell that to Stewart , Colbert and Maher ; they’ll all tell you to take a flying fu(k on the moon , and rightfully so…….But thanks for your insiginificant contribution anyway , Ms Manners. I would like to think that they would conduct themselves with greater dignity. However, if they were to use such a tone with me, I would more than likely ask them to please refrain from using profanity when speaking to me. If they still continued to speak to me like that, I suspect me and Mr. Colbert or Mr. Maher might need to have a walk, a talk and a looksie.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What makes you believe that any of those gents would give you the time of day , much less a “walk, a talk and a looksie” ?
You are delusionally arrogant and a self-aggrandizing d-bag……..
BTW
I myself wouldn’t waste time with a “walk, a talk and a looksie” for you , either……….
July 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pmIt helps immensely, indyjones. I’m so relieved to discover that if I simply qualify my name-calling, it’s all good.
If I were to say, for instance, that your comments make you look like a foolish, foppish, unclever toilet brush of a Concern Troll, you wouldn’t take offense, right?
I’m glad we got that straightened out.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
livelongandprosper,
I agree with you, my point was only that the constant attacks on O’reilly’s show aren’t having an impact. He remains dominant. I make no conclusions about his accuracy, etc.
I think you missed one point I tried to make and that is that the ratings are not exact – I don’t know how they do it, and I really am not interested. I have never been asked what I watch although I have TiVo and I would bet “they” know!
TripleKick 2, I believe you interpret the posts by TP on O’Reilly as attacks. I see them as showing people who don’t watch him (like me) what he says and what his listeners are hearing. His gross errors and misinterpretations have to be countered with the truth.
If he is so dominant and watched by many, would you say he should be truthful?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pmhave we lost
cry too?
#
July 24th, 2008 at 6:02 pmWhich is worse, calling names or depriving people of economic security, nourishment, and life?
Sorry, filthy dogs, more people are seeing the light on the issues and turning away from the right’s persistent and tired electoral strategy of “exposing” what they believe to be aesthetic problems within the demcrat’ party.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:02 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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It helps immensely, indyjones. I’m so relieved to discover that if I simply qualify my name-calling, it’s all good.
If I were to say, for instance, that your comments make you look like a foolish, foppish, unclever toilet brush of a Concern Troll, you wouldn’t take offense, right? I guess it would depend on what your intentions were. I stated – and it was in complete honesty – that mine was out of the goodness of my heart.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmWell, if MCM leads you to Truth, I’d be careful if I were you. Wear gloves — and not just the surgical kind. I suggest oven mitts. I’ve heard story of nasty burns suffered when those whose comments make them appear like trolls touch the Truth with their bare skin.
I only say this because I’m concerned for your health.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmWhich is worse, calling names or depriving people of economic security, nourishment, and life? This is not a hard question to answer. I have one for you: corned beef or pastrami?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:04 pmOh, mine too.
Totally.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:04 pmindyjones Says:
Ok, I will stop referring to you as my friend but I refuse to be anything but friendly to you. I respect your viewpoints but believe they are very much off base with that of a liogical human being. All people DO matter, McMetal. Also, it is difficult to scroll by the “names” when they are everywhere.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
“Logical” human beings have compassion and respect for those who deserve it ; those who have knowingly and uncaringly destroyed the US are not deserving.
Plus , do the architects of Chimpy’s Idiotic (and illegal) Iraq Adventure have an opinion that should in any way even be acknowledged ?
Reviewing past history and behavior is integral in being a “logical and prudent human being” ; if you believe otherwise , that is your issue.
If you cannot scroll by , find elsewhere to post your haughty and arrogant crap………
July 24th, 2008 at 6:04 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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indyjones Says:
Ralph, MCM is not being hard on me. We are old friends who are engaged in good, healthy dialogue to to try and find truth.
Well, if MCM leads you to Truth, I’d be careful if I were you. Wear gloves — and not just the surgical kind. I suggest oven mitts. I’ve heard story of nasty burns suffered when those whose comments make them appear like trolls touch the Truth with their bare skin.
I only say this because I’m concerned for your health.
I appreciate your concern, my friend. Ciao – I have to run for the day. May all of you have great evening!
July 24th, 2008 at 6:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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indyjones Says:
Ralph, MCM is not being hard on me. We are old friends who are engaged in good, healthy dialogue to to try and find truth.
Well, if MCM leads you to Truth, I’d be careful if I were you. Wear gloves — and not just the surgical kind. I suggest oven mitts. I’ve heard story of nasty burns suffered when those whose comments make them appear like trolls touch the Truth with their bare skin.
I only say this because I’m concerned for your health.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I recommend an insulated deep-sea diving suit , myself…….
July 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pmUm… indy… just thought I’d point out that you forgot something in your response… see, you said, This is not a hard question to answer. but then you didn’t answer it. Instead you asked another question.
I’m sure it was just a proof-reading problem. I often hit “Submit” before I’ve read over what i’ve typed and it’s only after it’s been posted that I find I’ve left out a word or spelled it “teh” or something stupid like that. I’m sure that’s all that happened to you.
I say this totally out of the goodness of my heart.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pmJim Wilke Says:
Your site uses fascism, ours uses BOYCOTTS. If you don’t like it, well that’s one more point for us.
What is “my site?” Please don’t say JohnMcCain.com, I’ve never been there.
I think it’s obviously a typo for “your side”.
Now does it make sense?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:11 pmChurch-going, proper, moral, stern, strict, and a family man.
But lurking in the shadows of your die-hard member of the GOP, there’s a Dennis Rader waiting to be captured.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pmJim Wilke Says:
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Your site uses fascism, ours uses BOYCOTTS. If you don’t like it, well that’s one more point for us.
What is “my site?” Please don’t say JohnMcCain.com, I’ve never been there.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
JimWilkeluvsdogfarts.com
July 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pmWow. They’ve sent in the next string.
I don’t know, Quagmire, how many times HAVE we heard that “republicans are equivalent to the KKK”?
Your point is a little weak to be resting on a rhetorical question. Especially when you follow it up by claiming that “All you are trying to do is drown out the opposistions voice.”
Maybe we should start a petition? I heard that worked great for Stalin.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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MCMetal says:
Dominant means not losing ; the loofah man has lost recently to Olberman , as you have been shown , imbecile……
Again, please take a few moments to educate yourself on the subject you claim to know so much about.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You provide a link to a 3rd rate , childish-like site that quotes NewsCrap (NewsMax) , and claim others should be ‘educated’ ?
ROFLMAO
Where’s the National Enquirer on-line link , you turd ?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmCry_Havoc, can you explain how those quotes add up to “a lynching”?
thanks.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmJimWilkeluvsdogfarts.com
Damnit McMetal, don’t you ever change, you hear me? DON’T YOU EVER CHANGE.
LOL!
July 24th, 2008 at 6:16 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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Uncited quotes? The only thing I’ve quoted are the organization name “MoveOn” and cut&pastes from earlier comments. Explain to me what you mean.
As for the lynching of TripleKick:
#132: Dominant means not losing ; the loofah man has lost recently to Olberman , as you have been shown , imbecile………
#113: joe cantwell Says:
ralph the wonder llama,
this tk’s place is in the sky.
he’s still got a lot of flying to do.
you can see it in his eye,
though he’s cried a bit
for what we’ve put him though.
:)
#110: TrickleDick
#107: You are the most idiotic , uninformed clod that posts here ; and your sad little rants read like a tantrum being thrown by the retarded simian in the Oval Office whom you idolize ……
#97: I know, I know, we’re not supposed to respond to trolls whose handles sound like straight-to-video jean claude van damme movies (awesome, Tweedster), but I have to point out that this troll is especially confused.
And for the record, you can quote me on those ;)
BTW, I think one of those posts might have sounded a little familiar Joe.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
And , where exactly , is the “lynching” part ?
Not the same as this , is it ?
O’Reilly: “I don’t want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there’s evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels”
Get lost already , you mindless phony …………..
July 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pmJim Wilke Says:
pbg – Give me a break. Think McCain can respond to Olbermann or Air America?
I don’t know if anyone else has responded to this absurdity, Jimmyboy, but I will anyway.
McCAIN HASN’T GOT THE GUTS TO GO ON COUNTDOWN OR AIR AMERICA.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pmI see. Kinda like a petition is the equivalent of Stalinist speech suppression.
I think I’m beginning to get the hang of the way you guys think.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:19 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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Ralph, it’s a small sample (only the last hour or so, on this thread alone) of the responses to his comments. When you twist someone’s name into something different, and then poke fun, or use it as an insult – it can be the equivalent of a verbal lynching.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Wow……….Thanks for that amazing diagnosis , Sigmund FRAUD
July 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pmOK, trolls.
If enough advertisers give in and withdraw their business in the face of public opposition, that’s not blocking anyone’s free speech; it’s simply knocking out ONE private outlet.
As convenient as it would be to rewrite the definition during your trying times, “Government” and “free markets” are not one and the same.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:21 pmcry,
you’re back,
and feeling bad.
cheer up.
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these quotes:
“He’s black”, “He’s a racist”, “you’re a biggot”
were uncited.
*
thank you.
@
keep an open mind.
that way you can let
logic and reason rule
your thoughts.
*
thank you.
^
July 24th, 2008 at 6:21 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Jim Wilke Says:
pbg – Give me a break. Think McCain can respond to Olbermann or Air America?
I don’t know if anyone else has responded to this absurdity, Jimmyboy, but I will anyway.
McCAIN HASN’T GOT THE GUTS TO GO ON COUNTDOWN OR AIR AMERICA.
I thought the absurdity of the comment spoke for itself, Annie. I mean, excuse me, but the Republican nominee (almost) for President suddenly has no pulpit? No opportunity to respond to one television commenter and a financially shaky radio network? Is that supposed to be a joke?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pmCryBaby Havoc, I’m sorry I just verbally lynched you. At least now you can relate to the Black Man’s pain.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:25 pmNo Cry, I am serious, and welcome to the club.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:28 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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There we go with the name calling again ;)
When you can’t hang with them in a debate, insult them. That’s kind of what the school bullies do, isn’t it?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Ummm , no , not exactly , simpleton.
You seem as though you got beaten up physically by a school bully ; where could you run to ?
The loser doesn’t have to be here , and I don’t recall anyone asking him or begging him to be here …….Or you , for that matter
July 24th, 2008 at 6:28 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Those aren’t direct quotes Joe. I never said they were, but rather a simplification of the media frenzy over the “racism” issue.
“Frenzy”? And you’re criticizing someone else for punctuation?
I notice you put racism in quotes. Does that mean you don’t believe racism exists?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pmjoe cantwell is a distinguished poet who has created a new form of verse: blog haiku.
He is a master and thus can do whatever he feels his art demands. You obviously don’t understand.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pmThere we go with the sabber-rattling again.
When you can’t control ever fiber of their being, (threaten to) bomb them to hell.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:30 pmIs it just me or did Cry_Havoc’s troll train just run off the rails?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:31 pmCry_Havoc Says:
As well, it’s treated like they were the enslaved race ever! Never mind the fact that Africans sold Africans to slave traders. Christ on a cracker.
Anyone able to translate this?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:32 pm184. gunmitch
July 24th, 2008 at 6:33 pmOf course he believes in racism, he’s SEEN the verbal lynching of the White Man! You don’t wanna go go down that road, brother, the pain is too great, and poor, long-suffering Cry might just SNAP!
TripleKick 2 Says:
METAL,
The point was that O’Reilly was on vacation when he was beaten and yet the left had a field day celebration as if it actually meant something.
According to your quoted material, O’Reilly was on vacation on Friday; the figures were for an entire week and he was, presumably, on air if he wasn’t on vacation.
Get used to it, though. It’s the shape of things to come.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:35 pm186. Translation: Africans sold other Africans so therefor slavery in the U.S. was the fault of the slaves.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:38 pmWrinkledPits
Stop posting nonsensical crap from a laughable site called “death by 1000 papercuts” and quotes Newscrap ; that’s the “real story”.
That you don’t realize a disreputable site is atypical of your GOP ignorance and loyalty ; NewsCrap is about as useful as yourself or Jim Winkie ……That is to say , about as useful as used toilet paper.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:39 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Ralph, do you know what a haiku is?
Joe hasn’t created a new art form, he is just adding spaces and symbols tohis postings
See, that just shows you have no aesthetic sense. Ralph is correct; you should pay more attention.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:40 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Those aren’t direct quotes Joe. I never said they were, but rather a simplification of the media frenzy over the “racism” issue.
BTW, “@” stands for “at”
I believe you meant to use the ampersand – “&”, which means “and”
Either that, or you’re just randomly using punctuation marks because you think they look pretty.
i didn’t put them in quote marks.
you did.
now you’re angry.
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btw “&” and “@”
are referred as to “general typography”
by experts. you can learn more about
punctuation here.
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learn, do.
!
July 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pmAs I said, Cry, you don’t understand joe’s work.
And yes, I know what a haiku is. Thanks for asking.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pmIs the new catchphrase down a T-Central “Get over yourself”?
Or is that one exclusive to Cry_Havoc, who is tired of hearing about others’ pain?
July 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pmgummitch Says:
Cry_Havoc Says:
As well, it’s treated like they were the enslaved race ever! Never mind the fact that Africans sold Africans to slave traders. Christ on a cracker.
Anyone able to translate this?
i’ll take a crack at it:
i’m so darn upset and angry
i can’t type!
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i’m pretty sure that’s
what he’s saying.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pmI see “Kool-Aid” is back on the “Approved” list, at any rate.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:45 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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You’ve never taken a day off gummitch?
… and my typo should have read, the ONLY enslaved race ever.
And after further thought, the entire race wasn’t enslaved, merely people of that race. At the same time, on the planet, in other countries, other members of other races were enslaved as well. People don’t like to talk about it, but Africans were among this slave owning group.
I’m tired of hearing “The Black Man’s Pain”. Get over yourself.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Name one member of another race that was enslaved in a democracy , that is supposed to be the “beacon of freedom”.
I’m tired of reading your arrogant and insipid piss ; get over yourself……….
July 24th, 2008 at 6:46 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Joe, what are putting in your Kool-Aid? It’s actually worked on Ralph and gummitch.
“j’accuse, j’accuse!”
*
you can learn.
#
July 24th, 2008 at 6:49 pmSee, MCM? It’s just like some have been saying we should do in Iraq. Just declare victory and go home.
Doesn’t matter if you’ve actually achieved victory or not. If you say you’ve trounced the opposition, you’re good to go.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:50 pmCry, That’s right, Africans owned slaves, and some still do, and I don’t mind talking about it a bit. BTW, when was the last time a member of your race was chained by members of another race to a pick-up, then dragged until beheaded by a culvert drain? Just wondering.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:50 pmTripleKick 2 Says:
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MCMetal
Funny that you mention toilet paper while dismissing newsmax given that “Toilet Paper” is TP.org’s other nickname in some circles.
You’ve been trounced today, as usual. Anyway, the facts speak for themselves regarding the ratings. Try not to wine too much. You can try again tomorrow.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
TP is the Charmin of toilet paper ; NewsCrap is the leaves in the outhouse ………
BTW
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ Your imbecilic and lame ass , proclaiming yourself “victorious” ; guess that makes you feel better when you run away , with your little tail tucked between your legs.
‘FACTS’ are presented as often on NewsCrap as they are on FAUX ; which is to say , about as often as Chimpy’s successess
July 24th, 2008 at 6:51 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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I’m tired of hearing the same old “poor me” story, from any race or individual, or group. Stop living in the past, control your present, and make a better future.
It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Let’s see how well you “control your present” from the ghetto , Mr Pick yourself up by the bootstraps……….
July 24th, 2008 at 6:53 pmCry_Havoc Says:
How about the WHITE, supposedly, indentured servants working the same cotton fields? How about the Chineese and the western railroads? Even though it wasn’t called slavery, if you think these people had rights, you are sadly mistaken.
never thought it for a minute.
and i’d never tell them to
get over themselves.
*
would you?
$
thank you.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 6:54 pm204., 211. A+
July 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pmCry_Havoc Says:
OK Joe, are you accusing me of espionage, or expressing your dissatisfaction with me as a person of power and authority?
both.
and neither.
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“Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death.”
- george orwell, nineteen eighty-four.
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good luck.
!
July 24th, 2008 at 7:01 pmCry_Havoc Says:
I’m tired of hearing the same old “poor me” story, from any race or individual, or group. Stop living in the past, control your present, and make a better future.
It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
I’m getting the impression that the answer to my question was “No, I don’t belief racism exists.”
What I’m not clear about is why it’s necessary to bring up slavery. Is the entire history of this country, post-slavery, irrelevant? Are there no institutions that make your cheerful advice difficult or impossible?
What possible relevance is there in stating that some Africans sold other Africans into slavery? What does that have to do with 2008?
July 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pm217. Thank you for the link. That’s a good site. You misunderstood if you think I was asserting that only Black people have been the victim of hate crimes.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pmCry_Havoc — ..expressing your dissatisfaction with me as a person of power and authority?
I’ve done just that by calling your boss at Chuck E. Cheese.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pmNot sure what C_H was responding to here…
ah, well, I’m content to cut him some slack. He’s had a rough go of it here this afternoon.
Whaddaya say, joe? Should we cut him some slack? Or will he try to turn tat into a lynching reference?
July 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pmAdmitting it is the first step.
Congratulations.
We’re here for you.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:09 pmCry_Havoc Says:
ok joe, now I really want to know what’s in your Kool-Aid… you’re moving way off into left field.
Your remarks sound philosophical, and resemble your “I’m to cool for school” writing style, but you’ve lost me…
take a moment out of your busy
schedule and ask yourself,
“hey, where am i going?
hey, what am i knowing?”
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lyrics courtesy of bloodrock.
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enjoy,
thank you.
@
July 24th, 2008 at 7:11 pmYou’ve done a great service here. I’m sure the more reasonable ones — like Juan Williams, Michael Steele and Thomas Sowell,will be grateful to you for pointing out that all their anger stems from the days of slavery, and everything is pretty much hunky dory for those people nowadays. All they’ve got to do is open their eyes, look around, and turn that frown upside down!
It’s a brand new day!
July 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pm224. Pretty good, but enslaved much prior to the inception of this country. And to be more specific, the “belief system” centers on the belief that Black people are subhuman, as promulgated by the great master Thomas Jefferson.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:15 pmThat headline is just not true.
I don’t even like Koolaid.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Ok guys, I got’s to run. I have a dinner engagement to get ready for
Yeah, your head and your lap.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pmI didn’t realize John had a brother. Or is that another son he had with Yoko?
July 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pmCry_Havoc Says:
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OK Joe, are you accusing me of espionage, or expressing your dissatisfaction with me as a person of power and authority?
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I think it’s official: TP has the most moronic trolls on the internet, and if you’ve ever been to News Hounds, thats saying a lot
tony an dlido
July 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
That doesn’t even pass the laugh test. O’Reilly is a bottom feeding buffon and he’ll take himself down sooner or later. Every hear of Woody Hayes? Him and his fascists buddies are so scared reality that only lies and smears will do.
July 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pmDoes Billo have Moveon’s application to the, ” ORielly Chapter of the KKK ” ?
id Billo in fact refuse their joining because they are TOO liberal for his (ORielly’s) KKK Chapter ?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:20 pmBillo mentions media matters, Daily Kos et al.
So he groups them neatly to dismiss them at once for possible single issue item(s).
Billo gets on every day and tells us that he’s looking out for us or some sort of nonesense like that. That he is scutinizing the media. He always excludes himself from mainstream media. Especially as he condemns media he differs with ideologically and profit wise. For Billo, if you disagree with him and his world view. Then your trash and he is out to create that image of you. This is some of my perspective from watching him and listening to him.
Like Bush and his AXIS OF EVIL. Billo constantly congers this image in his hard core conservative republican loyalist (right or wrong) rituals of sacrifice. And his sacrificing ritual always, Billo’s credibility, honesty, humanity has to die in said sacrifice.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:35 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES O’LIELY HAVE ABOUT THE KKK TO DRAW UPON SO AS TO MAKE SUCH A COMPARRISON?
HOW DOES BILL-DOH KNOW WHAT A KKK MEETING IS LIKE?
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July 25th, 2008 at 12:48 amThe FCC really needs to yank Fox News’ license for preaching hate crimes.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:00 amre: Jim Wilke
July 25th, 2008 at 10:54 amhttp://www.vortexgrp.com/ContactUs.html
Juan Williams? What the Fox are you talking about. Fascism? The difference is that the other networks you mentioned were not repeated time and time and time again as to catapult the propaganda…Obama is a Muslim, Terrorist fist jab, baby, mamma. Wow Juan, you really are being influenced by the Hume. Holy crap.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:04 pmI have two words to say to Mr. O’Reilly. Cognitive dissonance.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pm