Rep. Doyle: ‘If Mr. Savage wants to find someone acting like a moron, he should simply look in the mirror.’
By on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Rep. Doyle: ‘If Mr. Savage wants to find someone acting like a moron, he should simply look in the mirror.’
Last week, right wing radio host Michael Savage claimed that autism is “a fraud” where “99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.” This morning on the House floor, Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA) responded to Savage’s comments. Watch it:
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I wish I lived in this guy’s district so I could vote for him.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:18 pmI think this guy just became my hero…
July 24th, 2008 at 10:22 pmI am not sure this is the latest list of sponsors for Mr. Savage’s show. If someone has better data, please post it. In the mean time, I will be contacting these sponsors and letting them know what kind of trash they are supporting and that I will refuse to buy or use their products.
Pax
• ABC: 212.456.7777
July 24th, 2008 at 10:26 pm• Acura: 800.382.2238
• Ad Council
• Allstate
• American Diabetes Association
• American Express: 212.640.5130
• Ancestry.com (Generations Network): 801.705.7000
• Barracuda Networks
• BNI Foreclosures
• Boca Java: 888.262.2528
• Bosch: 248.876.1000
• Breakpoint (Prison Fellowship Ministries) Responds
• Bullfrog Sunblock
• Business Software Alliance
• Campbells: 800.257.8443 (ask for corporate)
• Chattem (Gold Bond) Responds
• CheapTickets.com
• Christianity.com
• Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
• Citrix: 954.267.3000
• Consolidated Resources: 410.349.8158
• Debt Consultants of America
• Digital Media Inc., USA
• Direct Buy Responds
• Dish Network: 303.723.1000
• eBay (eBayMotors)
• eFax: 800.817.2348
• Effectur
• Eye-Q
• FreshStart America
• Gallo Wines: 877-687-9463
• Geico
• General Motors: 313.556.5000
• Home Depot Responds
• Hoover: 330.499.9200
• Iams Dog Food
• Legal Zoom: 800.773.0888
• Marshalls
• MD Anderson
• Nautilus
• Nevada State Corporate Network
• Nivea
• Outback Steakhouse (OSI Restaurant Partners): 813.282.1225
• Priceline
• Prudential: 732.297.7007
• Purina One: 314.982.1000
• Roger Schlesinger (Mortgage Minute Guy) responds
• Salon Pas
• Samuel Adams Beer
• Select Quote
• Simon & Schuster: 212.698.2344
• Staples: 508.253.5000
• Subway
• Swiss America Trading Corporation
• Texaco Chevron
• The Heritage Foundation
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• Townhall.com
• United First Financial
• United States Census Bureau
• Volkswagen
• Wachovia
• WebEx
99% of the time, Conservatives need a good beating.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:34 pmCan one beat the stupid out of lonely poodle loving dumbasses?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:42 pmMan, my list of people who I would not piss on if they were on fire is getting long.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:43 pmGame of Life Says:
Can one beat the stupid out of lonely poodle loving dumbasses?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I’m sure Mikey Weiner’s daddy tried…
July 24th, 2008 at 10:45 pmHow is it that Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Tax Dodge is objected-to even by the ‘Religious Wrong’ and FOX, yet Savage has a commecrial radio show? I can’t see the difference between their respective venality. And who listens to him in such nuimbers that he gets paid so well?
July 24th, 2008 at 11:07 pmBeing informed and engaged sure has its downside, doesn’t it?
“yawn” well I’m off to ‘Bedfordshire’. Goodnight all.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:13 pmpmavrk,
that was quite a rant.
what are you really upset about?
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 11:14 pmPiss off, pervmark. You were owned on the other thread, and no one is buying your shit.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:16 pmZooey Says:
Piss off, pervmark. You were owned on the other thread, and no one is buying your shit.
which one?
i could use a
laugh.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 11:22 pmNotice how every time a right-wing lunatic is called out for moronic remarks, it’s always because he/she’s been “taken out of context”?
Having read the entire transcripts of both the original broadcast and Weiner’s subsequent refusal to retract, and justification for, his statements, nothing was taken out of context.
But even if the offending quotes had been extracted from the full context, please explain the context under which these statements would be acceptable, especially to the families of these children.
Idiot.
PEACE
July 24th, 2008 at 11:28 pmAs for the list of advertisers, Direct Buy will not renew contract after this week!!
Geico claims they have never advertised on that show. I could not listen to that stupidity long enough to confirm their statement ..it would hurt my brain so much I would end up like pmarvk.
pmarvk, I am not buying anything from the following: Please begin to show receipts of you purchasing 2 of themfor me, then contact his other sponsors like Debt Consolidation, but you are probably already a client and just about to be booted from your trailer home.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:31 pmAnd has anyone seen the pseudo apology from Top Radio Networks for Savage
http://66.186.16.152/savageonautism.jsp
July 24th, 2008 at 11:32 pmTim43
(pmavrk)
are you smarter
than a fifth grader?
*
good luck.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 11:40 pmTim43 Says:
AWESOME pmavrk. Does not sound like these folks even listed to Savage’s show.
You libs simply took “one” sentence that your stupid liberal board fed you as the truth without even searching for it yourselves. What a joke.
Savage is right. “Liberalism is a mental disorder.”
One sentence? Ha ha ha ha ha!
The thing is, Media Matters posts nice long transcripts. Not edited, not “one sentence.” I’m sure you enjoy a nice glass of SavageKoolAid, but before you make even more of a fool of yourself, you should check to make sure he’s not making up little stories for you.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:47 pmpmavrk Says:
owned zoooey?
I did not even go back and read the stupid comments by you brainwashed liberals because I know that none of you actually listened to Savage’s show. You only take the small clips, that your master George Soros feeds you, out of context. I simply don’t have the time to sit on these boards all day and night to debate you.
You see, I do not qualify for the same public assistance programs that you do. I simply do not have the time to because I need to work so that I can pay the high taxes to support your dependent azz.
Your idol Obama will give you what ever he thinks it will take to buy your vote. So, you should be ok for the next 4 years.
i don’t you would have written that if
you had a girlfriend.
*
more please.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 11:51 pmpmavrk,
where is this other thread, btw?
i want to read some more
of your comedy stylings.
@
thank you.
!
July 24th, 2008 at 11:53 pmpmavrk-
I’m not buying it. Let’s look at the statement from Mr. Savage’s Network on the issue:
In other words, he really did lash out at autistic children, but the “Network” got his “word” that he really meant no ill, and closely “monitored” (i.e. required Savage to dedicate an entire broadcast or two to “clarify”; broadcasts that were repeated as late as last night as “encore” editions).
But, lets assume you’re right, and more context is required. Even so, I’d say that the very fact that his own network had to release a statement that included the line “Dr. Savage’s comments did facially appear to be directed at children who suffer from autism, and clearly could be perceived as such“, and he now has to spend hours going over it and have a whole autism PR campaign on his website…still makes him look like a MORON, and deserving of Doyle’s jab here.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:54 pmpmavrk Says:
gummitch:
Did you actually listen to the show, or did you only read what the liberal media matters wanted you to read?
Have you listened to all of his show’s since then?
If you had, you would have realize that media matters was put to shame. They are nothing but a left wing liberal site that is out to smear conservatives, regardless of what the truth is.
i think you just gave Tim43
a boner with that one.
*
awesome.
:)
more please.
:)
July 24th, 2008 at 11:56 pm24. ChenZhen Says: In other words, he really did lash out at autistic children, but the “Network” got his “word” that he really meant no ill, and closely “monitored” (i.e. required Savage to dedicate an entire broadcast or two to “clarify”; broadcasts that were repeated as late as last night as “encore” editions).
But, lets assume you’re right, and more context is required. Even so, I’d say that the very fact that his own network had to release a statement that included the line “Dr. Savage’s comments did facially appear to be directed at children who suffer from autism, and clearly could be perceived as such“, and he now has to spend hours going over it and have a whole autism PR campaign on his website…still makes him look like a MORON, and deserving of Doyle’s jab here.
Two for two…looks like pmavrk is getting pwned on this thread too.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:03 am28. pmavrk Says: Ha, you call this owned. This is the weakest board I have ever been on.
You fail to make the distinction between being proven wrong and refusing to acknowledge being proven wrong. You equate the latter with the former which makes you all the more of a ditto-headed script-fed lummox.
How many more times are you programmed to repeat “George Soros?”
July 25th, 2008 at 12:13 ampmavrk Says:
gummitch:
Did you actually listen to the show, or did you only read what the liberal media matters wanted you to read?
Have you listened to all of his show’s since then?
I don’t actually need to listen to the show because I can read. That means I can read the actual transcript. Are you going to pretend that the transcript isn’t accurate? They misquoted him? Or are you just desperately trying to frame some kind of “context” that will magically make all those many many words change their meaning.
Savage is a vile, repellent and probably seriously mentally ill person. Whenever Media Matters posts nice long transcripts of his hate-filled broadcasts, he whines and whimpers about being taken out of context and shrieks about how everyone at MM is a big homo. He’s operating at the level of a 12 year old, and not a very bright or conscious 12 year old at that.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:19 ampmavrk-
Anyone can backtrack and spin, especially when it means keeping one’s job. I listened to the show last night. He spent hours defending it and making Media Matters out to be the “devil” (yes, he used that pejorative). My point is, context or no, what he said was pretty damn stupid, since you can certainly make the point without saying “In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”
Face it, he got caught saying something completely asinine, and now he’s on a PR blitz of deflection and damage control. So, of course his subsequent shows are going to be aimed at making him look like he’s some champion of autistic children. But it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a moron for saying it in the first place.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:23 am“Rep. Doyle: ‘If Mr. Savage wants to find someone acting like a moron, he should simply look in the mirror.’”
And well said, Mr. Doyle. Bravo!
July 25th, 2008 at 12:23 ampmavrk Says:
What has your master George Soros done for children?
Useful idiots!!!
three exclamation points?
you really mean it this time!
:)
lol!
*
more please.
:)
July 25th, 2008 at 12:24 am35. pmavrk Says: While the phrasing of Dr. Savage’s remarks was inartful, after the aforementioned investigation, as well as personal knowledge of Dr. Savage’s strongly held views towards children and those dealing with special challenges, the Network is satisfied that he did not mean any disrespect to autistic children or their families but was instead reiterating his longstanding concerns on public health issues.
Sooo, it’s up to each listener to conduct a thorough investigation whenever Savage puts his foot in his mouth…just like the vested management had to do after admitting and downplaying the comments as “inartful”-meaning asinine.
Your problem, pmavrk, is failing to remember when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:33 ampmavrk Says:
On Mike Doyle — the life long politician. Did this guy ever hold a real job? Who cares what a career politician says? Like Obama, he sounds like a guy that will tell you anything you want to hear to garner a vote.
Nicely done. Since you can no longer avoid admitting that Savage said just what Media Matters reported that he said, you try to distract people with irrelevant pap about the people who have criticized him. And Obama, who isn’t even in the country.
Give it up. Savage is a pig.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:39 amBelieve it or not, this rant of Michael Savage is one of his least offensive. He daily spews out hate in an alarming way. And he was hired to do this.
These talking heads get paid to serve up hatred and controversy daily. And let’s not forget just who listens to them. People who have deep dislikes and predjudices of their own. This is the base of talkers like Savage, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest. They appeal to the lowest base in all of us. These idiots like Savage speak for them. In speaking for them they give a kind of legitimacy for those hatreds. People think they are understood by these talkers. It says to them that no matter how much they resent others for whatever reason, it must be ok. Because Savage or whoever agrees with me.
They don’t know that these talkers that speak to them and for them, also hold them in contempt. And they laugh all the way to the bank. Savage may get fired, he has been fired before. But it won’t matter. Some other contemptible media source will hire him. And the hypocrisy goes on. In fact I would bet money that if he is fired and re-hired elsewhere, it will be for more money.
After having said all that, one thing is right. Sometimes autism is over diagnosed. I worked in that field. But for the most part it is a real and terrible problem for the parents who struggle day to day for that child. To teach, to educate and to find social acceptance. It can be heartbreaking.
Savage is an intelligent man. An educated man. This is probably the worst part of what he does for a living. He knows better and still he says the things he does. Things that are either lies, or exaggerations that cause needless pain. I sometimes wonder about these kinds of people.
Savage must have had a very sad childhood. Perhaps because he is physically unattractive, that may be part of his problem. Who knows? Then again, he might be just twisted and mean.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:41 ampmavrk Says:
joe cantwell —
For some strange reason, I like your humor. Regardless of whether you are a liberal :-)
careful,
you’ll make
Tim43 jealous.
:-)
good luck.
#
July 25th, 2008 at 12:42 amShorter (yet interminable) pmavrk:
liberal, liberal, out of context, George Soros!! George Soros!! left wing, useful idiots, George Soros!! George Soros!! liberals, George Soros!! out of context, liberals…
Vlad Lenin…George Soros!! George Soros!!
July 25th, 2008 at 12:44 ampmavrk Says: I fail at life
July 25th, 2008 at 12:46 amThat slurping sound in the background on Savage’s show is pmavrk earning his tax free income
July 25th, 2008 at 12:47 ampmavrk-
Huh? I addressed that already.
How does a “well, we know what it sounded like, but trust us, he’s a nice guy” testimonial from the CEO of Savage’s own network undo my argument? Besides, its not like that guy would have an interest in keeping the advertisers on board or anything. The entire network statement is damage control.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:50 amHey pmav — you just mentioned “Vlad Lenin”. Is he named after the “Vladimir Lennon” you were talking about a few threads back?
Also — did you ever reply to me on last night’s Savage Wiener thread when I asked you how much context is enough? Four paragraphs apparently doesn’t cut it, so I’d like your baseline (and explanation why it’s necessary).
Also, did you ever post any transcript from Savage Wiener’s original autism show that would backup your contention that he was talking about the misdiagnosed kids when he said, “In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”?
Because I’ve scoured the transcript, and it sure seems to me like he’s making a pretty general statement about autism. I need some help here.
Thanks a ton.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:53 am50. pmavrk Says: Good night libs. I will look in tomorrow to read up on your SUPPOSED thrashing of me in my absence.
There’s no need to trash you, pmavrk. Your ignorance is so vast, any attempt to criticize such as you is tantamount to booing at the Special Olympics. Your mindset will bring you a seemingly endless life of unhappiness and anger.
No comment by anyone here could come close to being comparable to what you’ve devised for yourself.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:55 amRalph, the moron sycophantic bigot Pmav knows very well that there have been full transcripts posted. He just can’t whine “OUT OF CONTEXT BAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW” if he addresses this fact
July 25th, 2008 at 12:56 amYo, pmav — I just checked the other night’s Savage Wiener thread, and you commented after I asked you some pretty specific questions, but you didn’t address my concerns.
Why is that?
If the mighty Savage Wiener did prove that he was taken out of context, as you insist, it should be pretty easy to post a section of transcript from the show that demonstrates this. Post the transcript, juxtapose it against the “out-of-context” piece, and viola! Point made.
Sound good?
July 25th, 2008 at 12:59 am51. pmavrk Says: hanshiro —
you left out “useful idiot”
No I didn’t…I put your name in there.
*rimshot*
Thankyouthankyouverrymuch…
July 25th, 2008 at 12:59 amY’know… sometimes it feels like pmavrk doesn’t really want to engage in rational discussion.
it’s crazy to feel this way, but once in a while I can’t help it.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:03 am#9,”Moreover, if you actually listened to his shows this week you would have heard a multitude of experts backing his claims. THE CONTEXT OF HIS CLAIMS BEING THAT MANY CHILDREN LABELED AUTISTIC ARE FALSELY LABELED BY CORRUPT MEDICAL AND PHSYCOLOGICAL SYSTEMS FOR PROFIT. THIS NOT ONLY HURTS THE CHILDREN WHO ARE TRULY AUTISTIC AND TAXES THE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST FOR THESE CHILDREN BUT IT ALSO GIVES UNFAIR PROFIT TO THESE CORRUPT SYSTEMS. In short, the Autism label has become a racket to the detriment of those who are truly autistic”.
You guys on the right know all about greed and corruption and rackets don`t you!!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:10 amYou can`t be serious can you………
These trolls are so pathetically stupid they not only listen to Savage’s show but they read his books. Maybe we shouldn’t pick on them because they are obviously intellectually challenged.
Of course these are the same people who tell us our medical system is perfect and we don’t need to make changes in “the greatest healthcare system” that are complaining about its flaws and promoting the holistic approach by Weiner.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:11 amHanshiro, if wit were a rifle, you’d be a sharpshooter, and pmavrk would be headless right now.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:11 amShouldn’t you be asleep, Ralph? It’s been a long, difficult day stomping on pinheads. You’ve got to be tired.
If you’re up, dial 877-386-6902. Ten times. Find another phone and do it again. It’s important.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:12 am61. the brown acid Says: Hanshiro, if wit were a rifle, you’d be a sharpshooter, and pmavrk would be headless right now.
It’d be more of a challenge if’n he didn’t keep puttin’ the barrel in his mouth… ;-)
July 25th, 2008 at 1:15 amHeh.
pervmark — owned again.
Brilliant!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:22 amHanshiro: That’s the wit I was talking about LOL
July 25th, 2008 at 1:23 amgum, you’re right, look at the time!
BTW, made the calls.
Cheers.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:26 amPervmark is just grumpy - he hasn’t had one of Weiner’s espresso powered enemas in days
July 25th, 2008 at 1:29 amApparently, the braindead trolls are unaware that it was Savage’s own listeners who called the radio stations to complain about his comments, way before the
boogeyman“liberal media” picked up the story and made a stir based on “one sentence” that was “taken out of context”.From Super Talk Mississippi’s website:
Michael Savage’s comments about Autistic children were beyond inexcusable and are unacceptable. […] We appreciate our many listeners who notified us of Savage’s comments, especially those listeners who have autistic children.
SAVAGE NATION BULLETIN
The trolls, as usual, are arguing that the Earth is flat.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:33 amdarn I missed pmavrk again. Bummer…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:34 amGregor, proof that even bigots have to draw the line of decency somewhere.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:35 amdbadass Says:
darn I missed pmavrk again. Bummer…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Just keep working on that target practice.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:35 amthe brown,
Savage forgot disease don’t respect ideological lines. Or maybe he wasn’t aware, not being all that bright himself.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:39 amYou’re right, Gregor, but I really wouldn’t want anyone thinking autism is a disease.
It’s a lifelong developmental disability.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:41 amZooey,
You are right, it’s a disorder… I tend to use “disease” as a shorthand. I should stop doing that.
I still cannot over the fact that Savage saw it fit to beat up on some of the most vulnerable among us: Children with a crippling disability. Goes to show what a coward Savage really is.
And I guess pmavrk’s spirited defense of this coward means he won’t stop listening to Savage’s show. Birds of a feather, as my granddad used to say…
July 25th, 2008 at 2:01 ampmavrk is his name
July 25th, 2008 at 2:10 amMike Weiner is his game
Tim43 is the one who loves him best
Livin’ on Weiner’s cream
Master in Timmy’s dream
pmavrk is the legend of the West
Limericks!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:15 amThanks, Gregor.
My son is almost 26 years old, and when he was diagnosed the general public didn’t know anything about autism — except maybe that “those kids” screamed a lot and banged their heads.
Now, because of the education about and exposure of what autism really is, people are gaining a better understanding of the spectrum of autistic disorders.
My son is extremely fortunate, others not so much. Only a weak-minded and sick bully would attack people with autism, or any other disability. Or anyone, for that matter.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:21 amKeith Says:
pmavrk says: Do you understand what OUT OF CONTEXT MEANS Ralph? He was saying that 99 percent of the cases that were MISDIAGNOSED, was a brat who needed disipline.
I saw Savage with Beck and the two doctors on CNN Monday night. They kept asking him about the 99% comment. He had plenty of chances to respond. He never said what you say he meant.
Someone go tell Dan Marino and Doug Flutie they have poor parenting skills.
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 am
July 25th, 2008 at 3:11 amrepugs will attacked the less fortunate. They love that sh1t. pointing, and snickering at every damn thing. calling names, lying and believing they know the cure for cancer.
repugs days are numbered.
Hey look at that Berlin appears more civilized than the US of chimpy. I didn’t see any fear there. They love Sen. Obama.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:28 amHe made us proud today.
Weiner reminds me of people who say stop screaming it doesn’t hurt that much. How in the hell would they know?
I just want to kick the sh1t out of them.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:31 amDefending Weiner-Savage is like defending Hitler. Fact.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:39 amSorry, Off Topic…
House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers begins investigation of the Bush Administration Friday, July 25, 2008.
LIVE STREAMING 10am EST.
House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations
Panel One
The Honorable Dennis Kucinich, Representative from Ohio
The Honorable Maurice Hinchey, Representative from New York
The Honorable Walter Jones, Representative from North Carolina
The Honorable Brad Miller, Representative from North Carolina
Panel Two
The Honorable Elizabeth Holtzman, Former Representative from New York
The Honorable Bob Barr, Former Representative from Georgia, 2008 Libertarian Nominee for President
The Honorable Ross C. “Rocky” Anderson, Founder and President, High Roads for Human Rights
Stephen Presser, Raoul Berger Professor of Legal History, Northwestern University School of Law
Bruce Fein, Associate Deputy Attorney General, 1981-82, Chairman, American Freedom Agenda
Vincent Bugliosi, Author and former Los Angeles County Prosecutor
Jeremy A. Rabkin, Professor of Law, George Mason University School of Law
Elliott Adams, President of the Board, Veterans for Peace
Frederick A. O. Schwarz, Jr., Senior Counsel, Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law
I hope TP covers what could be the daming blow to the Bush Administration.
.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:48 amMax-1@66
Finally!
July 25th, 2008 at 5:56 amIt’s not great straight talk? LOL @ Sausage bigot.
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July 25th, 2008 at 6:51 amHas Mike Savage come out of the closet yet or is he still spewing hate on his radio program to divert the nation’s attention away from his sexuality?
I wonder if Savage is like Neal Horsley, you know, the right winger who is anti-gay and anti-abortion, but who admitted to Allan Colmes of Fox News one night that ole Neal has had sex with:
1) A mule
2) Other farm animals
3) A watermelon
4) A MAN!
Yep! Ole Neal Horsely had sex with a guy (and other “fun stuff”) and refused to correct the record after Colmes gave him several chances to!
Bah hahahahahahahahahaha!
July 25th, 2008 at 7:28 amI just LOVE some of the comments by the Savage apoligizers:
He said “misdiagnosed” cases!
This is directly from the transcript of his comments:
“I’ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”
Did he say “misdiagnosed”? No, he did not.
He said that 99% of Autism cases are brats.
Savage should be afraid to look in the mirror, but it would require shame to feel sorry for his remarks, and that’s one value that Savage has never once shown.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:36 amMax-1 Says:
Sorry, Off Topic…
Vincent Bugliosi, Author and former Los Angeles County Prosecutor
July 25th, 2008 at 4:48 am
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OOOooo nice - I assume he’ll be laying out his case for prosecuting Bush on multiple counts of first-degree murder.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:42 amWhy do we even report what these idiots say? You know, Bill O, Savage, Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc.? They are entertainers only, like crass comedians whose audiences have little minds and no life. I don’t see us getting all up in arms about something some other two bit comedian says in their “routine”. These guys get paid millions to rile decent folks up, to make us sorry for standing up for their right to spew this crap, and getting all riled is what we do best. Let’s just stop pretending that anything they say, or anyone that believes what they say, is important enough to listen to.
Move on folks, there is NOTHING to hear from these clowns.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:49 ammachost Says:
Why do we even report what these idiots say? You know, Bill O, Savage, Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc.? They are entertainers only, like crass comedians whose audiences have little minds and no life. I don’t see us getting all up in arms about something some other two bit comedian says in their “routine”.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:49 am
______
I find this statement highly offensive to comedians.
Seriously - what these guys do may be fodder for comedy, but it sure isn’t funny. People don’t base their political views and their votes on what Carlos Mencia or Chris Rock or the late George Carlin have said in their routines. Many people do base their views and votes on Limbaugh and Savage, however. They repeat their right-wing talking points verbatim, and these catchphrases become the basis of their listeners’ views on race and immigration and health care and foreign policy.
And it is important that rational people know the kind of hate speech that’s spewing out of millions of TVs and radios every day in this country. I don’t think we should give these fascists too much publicity, but we should be aware of what they’re saying and what their followers are repeating.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:04 amNO MORE STUPID!
July 25th, 2008 at 8:28 amhussein toasterhead Says:
Max-1 Says:
Sorry, Off Topic…
Vincent Bugliosi, Author and former Los Angeles County Prosecutor
July 25th, 2008 at 4:48 am
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OOOooo nice - I assume he’ll be laying out his case for prosecuting Bush on multiple counts of first-degree murder.
Did you read his latest book hussein toasterhead? I finished it a couple of weeks ago. He certainly makes a very good argument for why Bush should be prosecuted for murder.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:37 amhussein toasterhead, I apologize for my insensitive insult to comedians. I certainly don’t think any of these clowns is funny either, I compare the exaggeration factor, not the funny factor.
…friends?
July 25th, 2008 at 8:39 amWhy does Doyle waste his time responding to a inconsequential hatemongering ignoramus like Michael Savage?
July 25th, 2008 at 8:40 amJuly 25th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Don’t you think it’s time someone started saying something? Should we just let them re-create reality and not challenge it.
I find it embarrasing as an American like Savage is allowed to say such things and not be challenged. Finally, they can’t just say anything and get away with it.
The viciousness of the the right reflects a lack of hope and deep despair in their lives and they want to share it with the rest of us. I grow weary of them sucking the life out of the rest of us.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:16 amI suspect Whiney Mikey Weener has a “Negro” problem not unlike that reported many years ago by Norman Podhoretz: he spent his youth getting the shit kicked out of him, cuz he was a whiney little putz. He tried staying h9ome, but his mother’s friends thought he was a perv cuz he spent all his time trying to see up their skirts and down their blouses…
July 25th, 2008 at 10:05 amLast week, right wing radio host Michael Savage claimed that autism is “a fraud” where “99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.” This morning on the House floor, Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA) responded to Savage’s comments.
I’m glad he wasn’t my father, and I was a normal child. Well…pretty much.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 25th, 2008 at 10:32 amIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
Did you read his latest book hussein toasterhead? I finished it a couple of weeks ago. He certainly makes a very good argument for why Bush should be prosecuted for murder.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:37 am
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I’m in the middle of it right now. It’s pretty good and he makes a compelling case, but I do wish he’d come down off the soapbox a bit and give a bit more legal detail and less emotional appeal.
July 25th, 2008 at 11:11 ammachost Says:
hussein toasterhead, I apologize for my insensitive insult to comedians. I certainly don’t think any of these clowns is funny either, I compare the exaggeration factor, not the funny factor.
…friends?
July 25th, 2008 at 8:39 am
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Yah, I know. No worries.
And, now that I think about it, this country might be a better place if people DID base their views on stuff George Carlin has said. :)
July 25th, 2008 at 11:14 amDemocrat Soldier —
Did you listen to Savages show? Or, are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?
Appears that you, and your entire band of “useful idiots”, are blindly being fed small clips from media matters. You are very narrow minded. Anyone can take one sentence out of an entire dialog and twist it how ever they wish.
He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.
Your sole news source “media matters” chose to leave that very important piece of information out now didn’t they? Huh, I wonder why.
Do you weak liberals hate the guy so much that you will twist what he says in an attempt to silence him?
Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….
July 25th, 2008 at 11:20 am“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”
http://www.savageonautism.com/
July 25th, 2008 at 11:21 amTim43, since you’ve chosen to shoulder the mantle of Savage apologist that pmavrk decide to abandon, I’ll ask you:
How much context is sufficient to glean the intent and tone of a commentary?
You ask, “are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?”
The simple answer is no.
On an earlier thread I pasted four full paragraphs of transcript. (I can do it again here if you’d like.)
In those four full paragraphs, Savage said not a single word to qualify his statements like “In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”
Not a single instance of clarification as you suggest.
I’ll accept the quote you pull as accurate. But even then, when you combine that with Savage Wiener’s assessment that “99 percent of the cases it’s a brat”, this doesn’t leave very many actual cases of autism to be defended, does it? It’s pretty clear.
I do notice that all of you guys who come here defending your boy the Savage Wiener love to toss off phrases like “Leninist” and “Stalinist”. Is that part of your marching orders? Do your overlords think it’s more effective if you all sound the same?
July 25th, 2008 at 11:44 amSavage is now backpedaling, claiming his comments were actually a “parody“.
How “parody” can be gleaned from this codswallop isn’t clear, or likely even possible.
Sounds like Savage is getting defensive about the trouble shooting off his big mouth has gotten him into this time.
An intemperate swine like Savage shouldn’t whine when his own strong language draws intense, and richly-justified, blowback.
And, from the link above, Savage’s sheer hatred in this case has cost him seven stations.
He’ll try to complain that it’s censorship, but it’s just the free market at work.
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving soul.
July 25th, 2008 at 11:49 amOh, Timmeh, I just noticed this little tag here, about the First Amendment.
Can you tell us how this is relevant? Are you suggesting Congress is considering such a law?
Or are you rather conflating Savage Wiener’s right to speak freely with the privilege he’s afforded to speak on the public airwaves and get paid for it?
Are you trying to claim that Savage Wiener has a constitutional right to a radio show?
July 25th, 2008 at 11:58 amHa, now my comments are awaiting “moderator approval”
Wouldn’t want the truth to get out there. Might offend someone.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pmTim43 Says:
He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.
Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”
July 25th, 2008 at 11:20 am
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And by Savage’s thoroughly unscientific and uninformed assessment, 99% of all autism cases are not deserving of care and sympathy, since they’re “misdiagnosed.” All that “love and attention” goes only to the 1% that Savage deems “genuine.” On what basis does he determine whether a case of autism is “genuine?” Are there some behavioral studies that contradict the scientific evidence of the genetic or neurochemical causes of autism?
And thanks for the reminder about the First Amendment, which completely doesn’t apply. We’re not advocating that Congress issue any prior restraint on Savage. We’re advocating that the free market (i.e. his advertisers) decide not to support his hate speech, thus forcing him off the air. What’s the matter, Timmah - don’t you like the free market?
July 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pmTranscript from the July 16 broadcast of Talk Radio Network’s The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I’m not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden — why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I’ll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], “When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], ‘I don’t know, the dust got me.’ ” See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I’ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.
What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, “Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.”
Autism — everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, “Don’t behave like a fool.” The worst thing he said — “Don’t behave like a fool. Don’t be anybody’s dummy. Don’t sound like an idiot. Don’t act like a girl. Don’t cry.” That’s what I was raised with. That’s what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You’re turning your son into a girl, and you’re turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That’s why we have the politicians we have.
Nothing taken out of context.
He didn’t talk about “misdiagnosed”.
He said “In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.”
Why do the apologists for Savage contiunue to ignore the truth?
July 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pmFunny, but it is not just on these few blogs — the sation received so many complaint calls that day that they were forced to take actions and make him take actions to apologize for the “confusion”. Thus, his own listeners had complaints about his comments in a volume that required the managers to step in and take some pretty drastic PR control actions.
Yep. But, as you said, it’s just us bloggers here “taking him oout of context”.
Additional question: were those quotes you listed in the original show, or in one of the “apology” shows?
“99% of women are prostitute-minded…” Oh, wait… you take me out of context…. see, THAT statement, taken in full context, is not inflammatory or derogatory…. (sarcasm)
July 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pmTo LiberalVoter:
I was going through your list. EyeQ2020@aol.com fired back an email “WE DO NOT SPONSOR ANY RADIO OR TELEVISION SHOWS!!”. If someone can verify this, EyeQ should be taken off the list, or maybe give them the benefit of the doubt.
Man, going through the list is a lot of work, but it’s worth it.
ArthurFordandZaphod
July 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pmMost of us have had inoffensive comments blocked for “moderation”. It mostly has to do with use of the correct spelling of anlyze or anlysis.
Something about the correct spelling of those words trips a trigger in TP filter. It’s very frustrating.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pmTim43 is Pmavrk’s sock puppet. Flag and ignore.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pmThis Savage thing is the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh and by the way Tim43/Pmavrk (nice that you changed names - did you get banned? get owned too many times? Or just trying to bolster credibility?) the first amendment guarantees Weiner can say whatever he wants. That doesn’t mean he gets to keep his radio show.
Go ahead and scream about “OUT OF CONTEXT WAAAH BAAWWWWW” some more. I’ve heard enough of Savage’s rants, unfortunately, to know that no amount of context justifies giving the Weiner the benefit of the doubt. He’s getting his comeuppance. Deal with it.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pmWell, it looks like I was wrong when I gave ol’ Timmeh the benefit of the doubt with this quote.
Timmeh says the above quote was from “the show in question”. I assumed that meant it was from the July 16 show on which Savage Wiener originally vented his spleen about autistics. If that were so, it would be something of wider context for the offending remarks.
It was not from that show. It was from Tuesday, when Savage Wiener was scrambling to save his sorry ass by providing retroactive context.
Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.
July 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pmTo LiberalVoter
I think Chattem needs to be taken off the list. I have their email reply saved.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:27 pmohh Ralph,
Nice attempt. Looks like you spend half of a day investigating your assertion. Sadly you did all of your investigation on Media Matters were they only gave you 84 seconds of Michaels Savage’s show in an attempt to create hysteria amongst the uninformed masses.
Here is an exerp from the Network that broadcasts Savage. You can read it entirely on http://www.savageonautism.com/.
The Network commenced this discussion in the July 21st and 22nd broadcasts of The Michael Savage Show. For those who believe that the 84 seconds cited by Media Matters defines Michael Savage’s views on autism, the Network recommends going to (or clicking) http://www.savageonautism.com/ to view a representative sampling of Dr. Savage’s views, as well as the applicable issues, in true context.
In short, Media Matters is he-ll bent on destroying conservative talk radio regardless of what it takes.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:46 pmDr poo-stain Matt Says:
Defending Weiner Savage is like defending Hit-ler. Fact.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:54 pmNot defending Michael Savage and truth is like defending Vladamir Lenin, useful idiot. FACT!
July 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmComparing Savage to Hit-ler is a very far stretch matt. Not sure why you use the prefix (dr), matt. You appear to have very little understanding of the differences between Hit-ler and Savage.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmRalph–
Here is some more information on what appears to be the liberal democrats main source of information, Media Matters… I ask you, is Media Matters a credible source or a tabloid rumor mill bent on destroying people’s careers by using small clips taken out of context? You decide…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878111/posts
Media Matters For America was created by David Brock, a self-described “hit man,” self-confessed liar, and gossip peddler. His past casts a shadow over his current self-proclaimed dedication to truth-telling. Previously he viciously attacked Clintons and Bushes, Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas, Rush Limbaugh and National Public Radio, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Each time he recants a prior assault he lunges out at a new political enemy.
Brock puts himself in the position of someone who says, “I’m a liar. Believe what I tell you.” Journalist Christopher Hitchens wrote Brock “is incapable of recognizing the truth, let alone of telling it.”
Here is more on that “fine” organization you libs get your information from..
http://www.themediareport.com/mediamatters.htm
Google - Media Matters Lies
July 26th, 2008 at 5:32 pmhttp://www.google.com/ search?hl=en&q=media+matters+lies&btnG=Search