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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Doyle: &#8216;If Mr. Savage wants to find someone acting like a moron, he should simply look in the mirror.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph--

Here is some more information on what appears to be the liberal democrats main source of information, Media Matters...  I ask you, is Media Matters a credible source or a tabloid rumor mill bent on destroying people&#039;s careers by using small clips taken out of context?  You decide...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878111/posts

&lt;em&gt;Media Matters For America was created by &lt;strong&gt;David Brock&lt;/strong&gt;, a self-described “hit man,” &lt;strong&gt;self-confessed liar, and gossip peddler. &lt;/strong&gt;His past casts a shadow over his current self-proclaimed dedication to truth-telling. Previously he viciously attacked Clintons and Bushes, Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas, Rush Limbaugh and National Public Radio, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Each time he recants a prior assault he lunges out at a new political enemy. 

&lt;strong&gt;Brock puts himself in the position of someone who says, “I’m a liar.&lt;/strong&gt; Believe what I tell you.” &lt;strong&gt;Journalist Christopher Hitchens wrote Brock “is incapable of recognizing the truth, let alone of telling it.&lt;/strong&gt;”&lt;/em&gt;


Here is more on that &quot;fine&quot; organization you libs get your information from..

http://www.themediareport.com/mediamatters.htm

Google - Media Matters Lies
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=media+matters+lies&amp;btnG=Search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph&#8211;</p>
<p>Here is some more information on what appears to be the liberal democrats main source of information, Media Matters&#8230;  I ask you, is Media Matters a credible source or a tabloid rumor mill bent on destroying people&#8217;s careers by using small clips taken out of context?  You decide&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878111/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878111/posts</a></p>
<p><em>Media Matters For America was created by <strong>David Brock</strong>, a self-described “hit man,” <strong>self-confessed liar, and gossip peddler. </strong>His past casts a shadow over his current self-proclaimed dedication to truth-telling. Previously he viciously attacked Clintons and Bushes, Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas, Rush Limbaugh and National Public Radio, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Each time he recants a prior assault he lunges out at a new political enemy. </p>
<p><strong>Brock puts himself in the position of someone who says, “I’m a liar.</strong> Believe what I tell you.” <strong>Journalist Christopher Hitchens wrote Brock “is incapable of recognizing the truth, let alone of telling it.</strong>”</em></p>
<p>Here is more on that &#8220;fine&#8221; organization you libs get your information from..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themediareport.com/mediamatters.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.themediareport.com/mediamatters.htm</a></p>
<p>Google &#8211; Media Matters Lies<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=media+matters+lies&amp;btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=media+matters+lies&amp;btnG=Search</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5115670', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Savage to Hit-ler is a very far stretch matt. Not sure why you use the prefix (dr), matt. You appear to have very little understanding of the differences between Hit-ler and Savage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Savage to Hit-ler is a very far stretch matt. Not sure why you use the prefix (dr), matt. You appear to have very little understanding of the differences between Hit-ler and Savage.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5115606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not defending Michael Savage and truth is like defending Vladamir Lenin, useful idiot. FACT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not defending Michael Savage and truth is like defending Vladamir Lenin, useful idiot. FACT!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5115604', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dr poo-stain Matt Says: 

Defending Weiner Savage is like defending Hit-ler. Fact.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dr poo-stain Matt Says: </p>
<p>Defending Weiner Savage is like defending Hit-ler. Fact.</em><br />
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohh Ralph,

Nice attempt.  Looks like you spend half of a day investigating your assertion.  Sadly you did all of your investigation on Media Matters were they only gave you 84 seconds of Michaels Savage&#039;s show in an attempt to create hysteria amongst the uninformed masses.

Here is an exerp from the Network that broadcasts Savage.  You can read it entirely on http://www.savageonautism.com/.

&lt;em&gt;The Network commenced this discussion in the July 21st and 22nd broadcasts of The Michael Savage Show. For those who believe that the 84 seconds cited by Media Matters defines Michael Savage&#039;s views on autism, the Network recommends going to (or clicking) http://www.savageonautism.com/ to view a representative sampling of Dr. Savage&#039;s views, as well as the applicable issues, in true context. &lt;/em&gt;

In short, Media Matters is he-ll bent on destroying conservative talk radio regardless of what it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohh Ralph,</p>
<p>Nice attempt.  Looks like you spend half of a day investigating your assertion.  Sadly you did all of your investigation on Media Matters were they only gave you 84 seconds of Michaels Savage&#8217;s show in an attempt to create hysteria amongst the uninformed masses.</p>
<p>Here is an exerp from the Network that broadcasts Savage.  You can read it entirely on <a href="http://www.savageonautism.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savageonautism.com/</a>.</p>
<p><em>The Network commenced this discussion in the July 21st and 22nd broadcasts of The Michael Savage Show. For those who believe that the 84 seconds cited by Media Matters defines Michael Savage&#8217;s views on autism, the Network recommends going to (or clicking) <a href="http://www.savageonautism.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savageonautism.com/</a> to view a representative sampling of Dr. Savage&#8217;s views, as well as the applicable issues, in true context. </em></p>
<p>In short, Media Matters is he-ll bent on destroying conservative talk radio regardless of what it takes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5115596', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: arthurford</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthurford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To LiberalVoter

I think Chattem needs to be taken off the list. I have their email reply saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To LiberalVoter</p>
<p>I think Chattem needs to be taken off the list. I have their email reply saved.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5115000', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim43 Says:

He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Well, it looks like I was wrong when I gave ol&#039; Timmeh the benefit of the doubt with this quote.

Timmeh says the above quote was from &quot;the show in question&quot;. I assumed that meant it was from the July 16 show on which Savage Wiener originally vented his spleen about autistics. If that were so, it would be something of wider context for the offending remarks.

It was not from that show. It was from Tuesday, when Savage Wiener was scrambling to save his sorry ass by providing &lt;em&gt;retroactive&lt;/em&gt; context.

Sorry, it doesn&#039;t work that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tim43 Says:</p>
<p>He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, it looks like I was wrong when I gave ol&#8217; Timmeh the benefit of the doubt with this quote.</p>
<p>Timmeh says the above quote was from &#8220;the show in question&#8221;. I assumed that meant it was from the July 16 show on which Savage Wiener originally vented his spleen about autistics. If that were so, it would be something of wider context for the offending remarks.</p>
<p>It was not from that show. It was from Tuesday, when Savage Wiener was scrambling to save his sorry ass by providing <em>retroactive</em> context.</p>
<p>Sorry, it doesn&#8217;t work that way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5114748', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the brown acid</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/rep-doyle-if-mr-savage-wants-to-find-someone-acting-like-a-moron-he-should-simply-look-in-the-mirror/comment-page-2/#comment-5114376</link>
		<dc:creator>the brown acid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Savage thing is the gift that keeps on giving. 

Oh and by the way Tim43/Pmavrk (nice that you changed names - did you get banned? get owned too many times? Or just trying to bolster credibility?) the first amendment guarantees Weiner can say whatever he wants. That doesn&#039;t mean he gets to keep his radio show.

Go ahead and scream about &quot;OUT OF CONTEXT WAAAH BAAWWWWW&quot; some more. I&#039;ve heard enough of Savage&#039;s rants, unfortunately, to know that no amount of context justifies giving the Weiner the benefit of the doubt. He&#039;s getting his comeuppance. Deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Savage thing is the gift that keeps on giving. </p>
<p>Oh and by the way Tim43/Pmavrk (nice that you changed names &#8211; did you get banned? get owned too many times? Or just trying to bolster credibility?) the first amendment guarantees Weiner can say whatever he wants. That doesn&#8217;t mean he gets to keep his radio show.</p>
<p>Go ahead and scream about &#8220;OUT OF CONTEXT WAAAH BAAWWWWW&#8221; some more. I&#8217;ve heard enough of Savage&#8217;s rants, unfortunately, to know that no amount of context justifies giving the Weiner the benefit of the doubt. He&#8217;s getting his comeuppance. Deal with it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5114376', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the brown acid</title>
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		<dc:creator>the brown acid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tim43 is Pmavrk&#039;s sock puppet. Flag and ignore.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tim43 is Pmavrk&#8217;s sock puppet. Flag and ignore.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5114332', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim43 Says:
Ha, now my comments are awaiting “moderator approval”

Wouldn’t want the truth to get out there. Might offend someone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most of us have had inoffensive comments blocked for &quot;moderation&quot;. It mostly has to do with use of the correct spelling of anlyze or anlysis.

Something about the correct spelling of those words trips a trigger in TP filter. It&#039;s very frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tim43 Says:<br />
Ha, now my comments are awaiting “moderator approval”</p>
<p>Wouldn’t want the truth to get out there. Might offend someone.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most of us have had inoffensive comments blocked for &#8220;moderation&#8221;. It mostly has to do with use of the correct spelling of anlyze or anlysis.</p>
<p>Something about the correct spelling of those words trips a trigger in TP filter. It&#8217;s very frustrating.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113504', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: arthurford</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthurford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To LiberalVoter:
I was going through your list. EyeQ2020@aol.com fired back an email &quot;WE DO NOT SPONSOR ANY RADIO OR TELEVISION SHOWS!!&quot;. If someone can verify this, EyeQ should be taken off the list, or maybe give them the benefit of the doubt.
Man, going through the list is a lot of work, but it&#039;s worth it.

ArthurFordandZaphod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To LiberalVoter:<br />
I was going through your list. <a href="mailto:EyeQ2020@aol.com">EyeQ2020@aol.com</a> fired back an email &#8220;WE DO NOT SPONSOR ANY RADIO OR TELEVISION SHOWS!!&#8221;. If someone can verify this, EyeQ should be taken off the list, or maybe give them the benefit of the doubt.<br />
Man, going through the list is a lot of work, but it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>ArthurFordandZaphod<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: puddin head</title>
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		<dc:creator>puddin head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, but it is not just on these few blogs -- the sation received so many complaint calls that day that they were forced to take actions and make him take actions to apologize for the &quot;confusion&quot;. Thus, his own listeners had complaints about his comments in a volume that required the managers to step in and take some pretty drastic PR control actions. 
Yep. But, as you said, it&#039;s just us bloggers here &quot;taking him oout of context&quot;.
Additional question: were those quotes you listed in the original show, or in one of the &quot;apology&quot; shows?

&quot;99% of women are prostitute-minded...&quot;  Oh, wait... you take me out of context.... see, THAT statement, taken in full context, is not inflammatory or derogatory.... (sarcasm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, but it is not just on these few blogs &#8212; the sation received so many complaint calls that day that they were forced to take actions and make him take actions to apologize for the &#8220;confusion&#8221;. Thus, his own listeners had complaints about his comments in a volume that required the managers to step in and take some pretty drastic PR control actions.<br />
Yep. But, as you said, it&#8217;s just us bloggers here &#8220;taking him oout of context&#8221;.<br />
Additional question: were those quotes you listed in the original show, or in one of the &#8220;apology&#8221; shows?</p>
<p>&#8220;99% of women are prostitute-minded&#8230;&#8221;  Oh, wait&#8230; you take me out of context&#8230;. see, THAT statement, taken in full context, is not inflammatory or derogatory&#8230;. (sarcasm)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113426', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Democrat Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democrat Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Transcript from the July 16 broadcast of Talk Radio Network&#039;s The Savage Nation:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;

SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I&#039;m not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I&#039;ll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], &quot;When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], &#039;I don&#039;t know, the dust got me.&#039; &quot; See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.

Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I&#039;ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it&#039;s a brat who hasn&#039;t been told to cut the act out. That&#039;s what autism is.

What do you mean they scream and they&#039;re silent? They don&#039;t have a father around to tell them, &quot;Don&#039;t act like a moron. You&#039;ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don&#039;t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.&quot;

Autism -- everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, &quot;Don&#039;t behave like a fool.&quot; The worst thing he said -- &quot;Don&#039;t behave like a fool. Don&#039;t be anybody&#039;s dummy. Don&#039;t sound like an idiot. Don&#039;t act like a girl. Don&#039;t cry.&quot; That&#039;s what I was raised with. That&#039;s what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You&#039;re turning your son into a girl, and you&#039;re turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That&#039;s why we have the politicians we have.

&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nothing taken out of context.

He didn&#039;t talk about &quot;misdiagnosed&quot;.

He said &quot;In 99 percent of the cases, it&#039;s a brat who hasn&#039;t been told to cut the act out.&quot;

Why do the apologists for Savage contiunue to ignore the truth?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Transcript from the July 16 broadcast of Talk Radio Network&#8217;s The Savage Nation:</strong><strong></p>
<p>SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I&#8217;m not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden &#8212; why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I&#8217;ll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], &#8220;When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], &#8216;I don&#8217;t know, the dust got me.&#8217; &#8221; See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.</p>
<p>Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I&#8217;ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it&#8217;s a brat who hasn&#8217;t been told to cut the act out. That&#8217;s what autism is.</p>
<p>What do you mean they scream and they&#8217;re silent? They don&#8217;t have a father around to tell them, &#8220;Don&#8217;t act like a moron. You&#8217;ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don&#8217;t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Autism &#8212; everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t behave like a fool.&#8221; The worst thing he said &#8212; &#8220;Don&#8217;t behave like a fool. Don&#8217;t be anybody&#8217;s dummy. Don&#8217;t sound like an idiot. Don&#8217;t act like a girl. Don&#8217;t cry.&#8221; That&#8217;s what I was raised with. That&#8217;s what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You&#8217;re turning your son into a girl, and you&#8217;re turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That&#8217;s why we have the politicians we have.</p>
<p></strong><strong>Nothing taken out of context.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t talk about &#8220;misdiagnosed&#8221;.</p>
<p>He said &#8220;In 99 percent of the cases, it&#8217;s a brat who hasn&#8217;t been told to cut the act out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do the apologists for Savage contiunue to ignore the truth?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113422', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tim43 Says: 

He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.

Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…” 

July 25th, 2008 at 11:20 am&lt;/i&gt;
_____

And by Savage&#039;s thoroughly unscientific and uninformed assessment, 99% of all autism cases are not deserving of care and sympathy, since they&#039;re &quot;misdiagnosed.&quot;  All that &quot;love and attention&quot; goes only to the 1% that Savage deems &quot;genuine.&quot;  On what basis does he determine whether a case of autism is &quot;genuine?&quot;  Are there some behavioral studies that contradict the scientific evidence of the genetic or neurochemical causes of autism?

And thanks for the reminder about the First Amendment, which completely doesn&#039;t apply.  We&#039;re not advocating that Congress issue any prior restraint on Savage.  We&#039;re advocating that the free market (i.e. his advertisers) decide not to support his hate speech, thus forcing him off the air.  What&#039;s the matter, Timmah - don&#039;t you like the free market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tim43 Says: </p>
<p>He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.</p>
<p>Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….<br />
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…” </p>
<p>July 25th, 2008 at 11:20 am</i><br />
_____</p>
<p>And by Savage&#8217;s thoroughly unscientific and uninformed assessment, 99% of all autism cases are not deserving of care and sympathy, since they&#8217;re &#8220;misdiagnosed.&#8221;  All that &#8220;love and attention&#8221; goes only to the 1% that Savage deems &#8220;genuine.&#8221;  On what basis does he determine whether a case of autism is &#8220;genuine?&#8221;  Are there some behavioral studies that contradict the scientific evidence of the genetic or neurochemical causes of autism?</p>
<p>And thanks for the reminder about the First Amendment, which completely doesn&#8217;t apply.  We&#8217;re not advocating that Congress issue any prior restraint on Savage.  We&#8217;re advocating that the free market (i.e. his advertisers) decide not to support his hate speech, thus forcing him off the air.  What&#8217;s the matter, Timmah &#8211; don&#8217;t you like the free market?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, now my comments are awaiting &quot;moderator approval&quot;

Wouldn&#039;t want the truth to get out there.  Might offend someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, now my comments are awaiting &#8220;moderator approval&#8221;</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t want the truth to get out there.  Might offend someone.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113388', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim43 Says:

Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, Timmeh, I just noticed this little tag here, about the First Amendment.

Can you tell us how this is relevant? Are you suggesting Congress is considering such a law?

Or are you rather conflating Savage Wiener&#039;s &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt; to speak freely with the &lt;em&gt;privilege&lt;/em&gt; he&#039;s afforded to speak on the public airwaves and get paid for it?

Are you trying to claim that Savage Wiener has a &lt;em&gt;constitutional right&lt;/em&gt; to a radio show?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tim43 Says:</p>
<p>Leninist useful idiots, be reminded….<br />
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, Timmeh, I just noticed this little tag here, about the First Amendment.</p>
<p>Can you tell us how this is relevant? Are you suggesting Congress is considering such a law?</p>
<p>Or are you rather conflating Savage Wiener&#8217;s <em>right</em> to speak freely with the <em>privilege</em> he&#8217;s afforded to speak on the public airwaves and get paid for it?</p>
<p>Are you trying to claim that Savage Wiener has a <em>constitutional right</em> to a radio show?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113384', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KingCranky</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingCranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Savage is now backpedaling, claiming his comments were actually a &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/doyle-wants-savage-off-the-air-over-autism-rant-2008-07-23.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;parody&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

How &quot;parody&quot; can be gleaned from this codswallop isn&#039;t clear, or likely even possible.

Sounds like Savage is getting defensive about the trouble shooting off his big mouth has gotten him into this time.

An intemperate swine like Savage shouldn&#039;t whine when his own strong language draws intense, and richly-justified, blowback.

And, from the link above, Savage&#039;s sheer hatred in this case has cost him seven stations.

He&#039;ll try to complain that it&#039;s censorship, but it&#039;s just the free market at work.

Couldn&#039;t happen to a more deserving soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Savage is now backpedaling, claiming his comments were actually a &#8220;<a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/doyle-wants-savage-off-the-air-over-autism-rant-2008-07-23.html" rel="nofollow">parody</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>How &#8220;parody&#8221; can be gleaned from this codswallop isn&#8217;t clear, or likely even possible.</p>
<p>Sounds like Savage is getting defensive about the trouble shooting off his big mouth has gotten him into this time.</p>
<p>An intemperate swine like Savage shouldn&#8217;t whine when his own strong language draws intense, and richly-justified, blowback.</p>
<p>And, from the link above, Savage&#8217;s sheer hatred in this case has cost him seven stations.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll try to complain that it&#8217;s censorship, but it&#8217;s just the free market at work.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t happen to a more deserving soul.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113356', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim43 Says:
Democrat Soldier —

Did you listen to Savages show? Or, are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?

Appears that you, and your entire band of “useful idiots”, are blindly being fed small clips from media matters. You are very narrow minded. Anyone can take one sentence out of an entire dialog and twist it how ever they wish.

He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.

Your sole news source “media matters” chose to leave that very important piece of information out now didn’t they? Huh, I wonder why.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tim43, since you&#039;ve chosen to shoulder the mantle of Savage apologist that pmavrk decide to abandon, I&#039;ll ask you:

How much context is sufficient to glean the intent and tone of a commentary?


You ask, &lt;em&gt;&quot;are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The simple answer is no.

On an earlier thread I pasted four full paragraphs of transcript. (I can do it again here if you&#039;d like.)

In those four full paragraphs, Savage said not a single word to qualify his statements like &lt;em&gt;“In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”&lt;/em&gt;

Not a single instance of clarification as you suggest.

I&#039;ll accept the quote you pull as accurate. But even then,  when you combine that with Savage Wiener&#039;s assessment that &quot;99 percent of the cases it&#039;s a brat&quot;, this doesn&#039;t leave very many actual cases of autism to be defended, does it? It&#039;s pretty clear.

I do notice that all of you guys who come here defending your boy the Savage Wiener love to toss off phrases like &quot;Leninist&quot; and &quot;Stalinist&quot;. Is that part of your marching orders? Do your overlords think it&#039;s more effective if you all sound the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tim43 Says:<br />
Democrat Soldier —</p>
<p>Did you listen to Savages show? Or, are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?</p>
<p>Appears that you, and your entire band of “useful idiots”, are blindly being fed small clips from media matters. You are very narrow minded. Anyone can take one sentence out of an entire dialog and twist it how ever they wish.</p>
<p>He clearly stated in the show in question the following…. “the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony’s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation. He also stated that … the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.</p>
<p>Your sole news source “media matters” chose to leave that very important piece of information out now didn’t they? Huh, I wonder why.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tim43, since you&#8217;ve chosen to shoulder the mantle of Savage apologist that pmavrk decide to abandon, I&#8217;ll ask you:</p>
<p>How much context is sufficient to glean the intent and tone of a commentary?</p>
<p>You ask, <em>&#8220;are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>The simple answer is no.</p>
<p>On an earlier thread I pasted four full paragraphs of transcript. (I can do it again here if you&#8217;d like.)</p>
<p>In those four full paragraphs, Savage said not a single word to qualify his statements like <em>“In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is.”</em></p>
<p>Not a single instance of clarification as you suggest.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll accept the quote you pull as accurate. But even then,  when you combine that with Savage Wiener&#8217;s assessment that &#8220;99 percent of the cases it&#8217;s a brat&#8221;, this doesn&#8217;t leave very many actual cases of autism to be defended, does it? It&#8217;s pretty clear.</p>
<p>I do notice that all of you guys who come here defending your boy the Savage Wiener love to toss off phrases like &#8220;Leninist&#8221; and &#8220;Stalinist&#8221;. Is that part of your marching orders? Do your overlords think it&#8217;s more effective if you all sound the same?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113338', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.savageonautism.com/</description>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrat Soldier ---

Did you listen to Savages show?  Or, are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?

Appears that you, and your entire band of &quot;useful idiots&quot;, are blindly being fed small clips from media matters.  You are very narrow minded.  Anyone can take one sentence out of an entire dialog and twist it how ever they wish.  

He clearly stated in the show in question the following....  &lt;strong&gt;&quot;the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony&#039;s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation.&lt;/strong&gt;  He also stated that ...  &lt;strong&gt;the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.&lt;/strong&gt;

Your sole news source &quot;media matters&quot; chose to leave that very important piece of information out now didn&#039;t they?  Huh, I wonder why.

Do you weak liberals hate the guy so much that you will twist what he says in an attempt to silence him? 

Leninist useful idiots, be reminded....
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...&quot; &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrat Soldier &#8212;</p>
<p>Did you listen to Savages show?  Or, are you simply taking one small sentence out of the entire context of the show?</p>
<p>Appears that you, and your entire band of &#8220;useful idiots&#8221;, are blindly being fed small clips from media matters.  You are very narrow minded.  Anyone can take one sentence out of an entire dialog and twist it how ever they wish.  </p>
<p>He clearly stated in the show in question the following&#8230;.  <strong>&#8220;the real cases of autism need our sympathy and support. It is the phony&#8217;s and the misdiagnosed and falsly diagnosed that we are addressing on the savage nation.</strong>  He also stated that &#8230;  <strong>the genuinely autistic need as much love and attention as we can give them.</strong></p>
<p>Your sole news source &#8220;media matters&#8221; chose to leave that very important piece of information out now didn&#8217;t they?  Huh, I wonder why.</p>
<p>Do you weak liberals hate the guy so much that you will twist what he says in an attempt to silence him? </p>
<p>Leninist useful idiots, be reminded&#8230;.<br />
<em>&#8220;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press&#8230;&#8221; </em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5113286', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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