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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5111926</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d give FEMA a partial pass on sovereign immunity.  They had to get the trailers fast.  (I note that the average price of $ 20 k seems a little high for such a big bulk purchase).  

However, their footdragging and attempts to outright refuse to let the facts face the light of day sound more to me like intentional malfeasance.  As such, any legal protection for them starts crumbling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d give FEMA a partial pass on sovereign immunity.  They had to get the trailers fast.  (I note that the average price of $ 20 k seems a little high for such a big bulk purchase).  </p>
<p>However, their footdragging and attempts to outright refuse to let the facts face the light of day sound more to me like intentional malfeasance.  As such, any legal protection for them starts crumbling.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5111926', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: puddin head</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110862</link>
		<dc:creator>puddin head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Fred says: Your mentality is what is being used as an excuse to do away with affirmative action.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, it is possible that my argument is used in that way, though I have never seen that. Affirmative Action is still necessary, as is de-segregation of schools. You misread me. The concept that all people of a certain race are part of a sub-culture based solely on race is perpetuating the myth of differences ... BASED on race. To continue to support the thinking that &quot;all people of dark skin are part of &quot;the black culture&quot;&quot; is to, unintentionally, support segregation (mentally) based on race. My comment does NOT (emphatically NOT) in any way counter the continued NECESSITY of Affirmative Action. Please try to not interject too much beyond what is actually said. Much appreciated. Thanks. Can we be done with this topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Fred says: Your mentality is what is being used as an excuse to do away with affirmative action.</em></p>
<p>Actually, it is possible that my argument is used in that way, though I have never seen that. Affirmative Action is still necessary, as is de-segregation of schools. You misread me. The concept that all people of a certain race are part of a sub-culture based solely on race is perpetuating the myth of differences &#8230; BASED on race. To continue to support the thinking that &#8220;all people of dark skin are part of &#8220;the black culture&#8221;" is to, unintentionally, support segregation (mentally) based on race. My comment does NOT (emphatically NOT) in any way counter the continued NECESSITY of Affirmative Action. Please try to not interject too much beyond what is actually said. Much appreciated. Thanks. Can we be done with this topic?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>puddin head Says:

Your mentality is what is being used as an excuse to do away with affirmative action.</description>
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<p>Your mentality is what is being used as an excuse to do away with affirmative action.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110794', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: puddin head</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110678</link>
		<dc:creator>puddin head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessie Jackson&#039;s choice of language was inappropriate, but an entire thread on the subject would be ridiculous and not in accord with the current style of TP threads. 
But several posters have itterated a negative thought form in the issue: that it is an &quot;issue for the black community&quot;. Is this not a manner of thinking that perpetuates a concept of &quot;difference between blacks and whites&quot; beyond superficial physical traits? (rhetoricl question).This manner of thought says that, &quot;there is &#039;us&#039; (non-black community)and there is &#039;them&#039; (black community). Why put a group into their own &quot;community&quot; based on skin color? (also rhetorical). As long as we continue to differntiate a group of people as different BECAUSE of skin color, even to just say that &quot;dark skinned people have their own &#039;community&#039; (or sub-culture)&quot;, is to segregate them based on race. That many such people aid in this by claiming to be a part of this sub-culture concept themselves does not make it all better. It is a mentality that perpetuates division along racial lines.  I am not saying that it is intentional on the part of most people to use this as a division, but if you think about it I believe that you will realize that it does do just that. 
Just sayin&#039;. 
And dropping the whole issue now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessie Jackson&#8217;s choice of language was inappropriate, but an entire thread on the subject would be ridiculous and not in accord with the current style of TP threads.<br />
But several posters have itterated a negative thought form in the issue: that it is an &#8220;issue for the black community&#8221;. Is this not a manner of thinking that perpetuates a concept of &#8220;difference between blacks and whites&#8221; beyond superficial physical traits? (rhetoricl question).This manner of thought says that, &#8220;there is &#8216;us&#8217; (non-black community)and there is &#8216;them&#8217; (black community). Why put a group into their own &#8220;community&#8221; based on skin color? (also rhetorical). As long as we continue to differntiate a group of people as different BECAUSE of skin color, even to just say that &#8220;dark skinned people have their own &#8216;community&#8217; (or sub-culture)&#8221;, is to segregate them based on race. That many such people aid in this by claiming to be a part of this sub-culture concept themselves does not make it all better. It is a mentality that perpetuates division along racial lines.  I am not saying that it is intentional on the part of most people to use this as a division, but if you think about it I believe that you will realize that it does do just that.<br />
Just sayin&#8217;.<br />
And dropping the whole issue now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110678', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Witch1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witch1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it is not possible but if bush/cheney/ muckdog/palosi all were impeached who would be next in line.?...Not enough coffee and info this morning..Anyone?..Blessings</description>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110562</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be my last point on unions.   A number of businesses (that have them) don&#039;t want them to go away, but to change dramatically.  They need some group to take over traditional corporate benefits.  In the recent UAW talks, guess who ended up with the retired employee health plan?  The company shifted responsibility to the union via a VEBA.

SEIU Chief Andy Stern is excited about the possibility of becoming relevant in today&#039;s world as a huge purchaser of health insurance for its members.  Why else would he capitulate?  The leader of a health care employee union should be the last to fall.  

Unions want to manage the billions in health insurance premiums, now paid by employees.  This us back around to SEIU&#039;s current political theater.  While they oppose private equity, they&#039;ll soon be doing a big case of imitation, looking for maximum returns on their investments/reserves.  

Money makes the world go &#039;round.  At least that&#039;s the foundation for much of its dysfunctional acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be my last point on unions.   A number of businesses (that have them) don&#8217;t want them to go away, but to change dramatically.  They need some group to take over traditional corporate benefits.  In the recent UAW talks, guess who ended up with the retired employee health plan?  The company shifted responsibility to the union via a VEBA.</p>
<p>SEIU Chief Andy Stern is excited about the possibility of becoming relevant in today&#8217;s world as a huge purchaser of health insurance for its members.  Why else would he capitulate?  The leader of a health care employee union should be the last to fall.  </p>
<p>Unions want to manage the billions in health insurance premiums, now paid by employees.  This us back around to SEIU&#8217;s current political theater.  While they oppose private equity, they&#8217;ll soon be doing a big case of imitation, looking for maximum returns on their investments/reserves.  </p>
<p>Money makes the world go &#8217;round.  At least that&#8217;s the foundation for much of its dysfunctional acts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110500</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you idiot (backup), just what exactly would you like us to do...?

Tar and feather Jesse Jackson?

Lynch him, maybe? 

Shun him? 

Deport him?

What??

WTF is wrong with you, you moron? 

He has already been castigated by the &#039;librul media&#039; for this gaffe, and I daresay that not a single one of us here approves of his use of the word. Why don&#039;t you get that?

Or is it that you&#039;re just here trying to bullsh*t us all and pretend that you&#039;re not just another stupid effing troll??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you idiot (backup), just what exactly would you like us to do&#8230;?</p>
<p>Tar and feather Jesse Jackson?</p>
<p>Lynch him, maybe? </p>
<p>Shun him? </p>
<p>Deport him?</p>
<p>What??</p>
<p>WTF is wrong with you, you moron? </p>
<p>He has already been castigated by the &#8216;librul media&#8217; for this gaffe, and I daresay that not a single one of us here approves of his use of the word. Why don&#8217;t you get that?</p>
<p>Or is it that you&#8217;re just here trying to bullsh*t us all and pretend that you&#8217;re not just another stupid effing troll??<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110500', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;barfly Says: 
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backup Says: 

barfly. Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.

They failed because Americans got fed up with the over-the-top rhetoric, and the corruption.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, governing only to enrich yourself and your cronys, while telling your dumbass base that government can&#039;t work, is a poor way to govern.</description>
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<p>backup Says: </p>
<p>barfly. Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.</p>
<p>They failed because Americans got fed up with the over-the-top rhetoric, and the corruption.</em></p>
<p>Yes, governing only to enrich yourself and your cronys, while telling your dumbass base that government can&#8217;t work, is a poor way to govern.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110482', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little late to add to the comments on unions.  Leadership should be challenged when it takes positions against its citizens/members, like SEIU&#039;s comment that employer sponsored health insurance is &quot;dead and not coming back.&quot;

As for West Coast dockworkers, the government-industrial monstrosity (GIM) has an answer for that, Mexican ports and highways.  I live in West Texas where they&#039;re building the Ports to Plains corridor and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1713476,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a huge road &lt;/a&gt;through Marfa, La Entrada del Pacifico.  Since we don&#039;t want people coming from Mexico, why the huge roads?  They&#039;re for goods.  

The GIM, Eisenhower&#039;s military-industrial complex on steroids, wants to break the back of those West Coast unions.  Apparently SEIU&#039;s Andy Stern doesn&#039;t want a similar fate and has acquiesced health insurance to the greedy GIM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to add to the comments on unions.  Leadership should be challenged when it takes positions against its citizens/members, like SEIU&#8217;s comment that employer sponsored health insurance is &#8220;dead and not coming back.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for West Coast dockworkers, the government-industrial monstrosity (GIM) has an answer for that, Mexican ports and highways.  I live in West Texas where they&#8217;re building the Ports to Plains corridor and <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1713476,00.html" rel="nofollow">a huge road </a>through Marfa, La Entrada del Pacifico.  Since we don&#8217;t want people coming from Mexico, why the huge roads?  They&#8217;re for goods.  </p>
<p>The GIM, Eisenhower&#8217;s military-industrial complex on steroids, wants to break the back of those West Coast unions.  Apparently SEIU&#8217;s Andy Stern doesn&#8217;t want a similar fate and has acquiesced health insurance to the greedy GIM.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110474', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110374</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Turkey bombs Kurdish targets in northern Iraq&lt;/strong&gt;
Thu Jul 24, 2:54 AM ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_as/turkey_kurds

ANKARA, Turkey - Turkey&#039;s military says warplanes have bombed 13 Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq. 

A statement posted on the military&#039;s Web site says warplanes attacked rebel &quot;facilities&quot; in the Zab region near the border late Wednesday. There was no immediate information on casualties.&lt;/em&gt;

Nice peace and freedom has got the USA in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Turkey bombs Kurdish targets in northern Iraq</strong><br />
Thu Jul 24, 2:54 AM ET</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_as/turkey_kurds" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_as/turkey_kurds</a></p>
<p>ANKARA, Turkey &#8211; Turkey&#8217;s military says warplanes have bombed 13 Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq. </p>
<p>A statement posted on the military&#8217;s Web site says warplanes attacked rebel &#8220;facilities&#8221; in the Zab region near the border late Wednesday. There was no immediate information on casualties.</em></p>
<p>Nice peace and freedom has got the USA in Iraq.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110374', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:
I’ve got to go. I have a date with Noam Chomsky.

See ya.&lt;/em&gt;

when he fails

he retreats.

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congrats fred,

gummitch,

barfly, et al.

another troll

bites the dust...

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:<br />
I’ve got to go. I have a date with Noam Chomsky.</p>
<p>See ya.</em></p>
<p>when he fails</p>
<p>he retreats.</p>
<p>+</p>
<p>congrats fred,</p>
<p>gummitch,</p>
<p>barfly, et al.</p>
<p>another troll</p>
<p>bites the dust&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup Says: 

&lt;em&gt;barfly. Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.&lt;/em&gt;

They failed because Americans got fed up with the over-the-top rhetoric, and the corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup Says: </p>
<p><em>barfly. Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.</em></p>
<p>They failed because Americans got fed up with the over-the-top rhetoric, and the corruption.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110298</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:
joe. conservatives need their &lt;strong&gt;hypocrisy&lt;/strong&gt; exposed, but not progressives?

If no one ever challenged your views, would they ever progress?&lt;/em&gt;

if you&#039;re not up to task

of challenging conservative 

hypocrisy then why are you here?

(i know, because you&#039;re a &quot;concern&quot; troll and

it&#039;s your job. silly question, sorry.)

*

oh, backup

(or should i write &quot;captain mantastic&quot;?)

you and your faux didacticism.

why don&#039;t you go to school instead

of trying to take others there?

don&#039;t be such an elitist.

&amp;

keep an open mind.

learn, do.

start with the man in the mirror

and perhaps when you have 

truly changed 

others will too.

*

good luck.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:<br />
joe. conservatives need their <strong>hypocrisy</strong> exposed, but not progressives?</p>
<p>If no one ever challenged your views, would they ever progress?</em></p>
<p>if you&#8217;re not up to task</p>
<p>of challenging conservative </p>
<p>hypocrisy then why are you here?</p>
<p>(i know, because you&#8217;re a &#8220;concern&#8221; troll and</p>
<p>it&#8217;s your job. silly question, sorry.)</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>oh, backup</p>
<p>(or should i write &#8220;captain mantastic&#8221;?)</p>
<p>you and your faux didacticism.</p>
<p>why don&#8217;t you go to school instead</p>
<p>of trying to take others there?</p>
<p>don&#8217;t be such an elitist.</p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p>keep an open mind.</p>
<p>learn, do.</p>
<p>start with the man in the mirror</p>
<p>and perhaps when you have </p>
<p>truly changed </p>
<p>others will too.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: gummitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gummitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

gummitch. If I’ve failed to distinguish between a cultural phenomenon and racism, apparently, I share the view with Jackson himself:

    Jackson also joined black leaders in a call for the elimination of the “N-word” throughout the entertainment industry.

I see it as a problem, Jackson sees it as a problem. But, you are unwilling to consider it. Why?&lt;/em&gt;

When Jesse Jackson, or any other member of the black community, issues you an invitation to join their conversation on the subject, let me know. You persist in thinking that the issue of a white person calling someone a ni$$er is the same as a black person using the word, otherwise you would stop blathering about &quot;racism&quot;. 

It is not my responsibility, or right, to tell black people not to use such a loaded word. There are arguments on both sides of the issue within that community and the conversation is theirs, not yours. I personally agree with the public Jackson, but apparently he was less than sincere. In my workplace, the word is not allowed regardless of who is using it, and that&#039;s a policy I support. But I am certainly not in a position to publicly criticize a black man for using it; I&#039;ll leave that to other black men and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:</p>
<p>gummitch. If I’ve failed to distinguish between a cultural phenomenon and racism, apparently, I share the view with Jackson himself:</p>
<p>    Jackson also joined black leaders in a call for the elimination of the “N-word” throughout the entertainment industry.</p>
<p>I see it as a problem, Jackson sees it as a problem. But, you are unwilling to consider it. Why?</em></p>
<p>When Jesse Jackson, or any other member of the black community, issues you an invitation to join their conversation on the subject, let me know. You persist in thinking that the issue of a white person calling someone a ni$$er is the same as a black person using the word, otherwise you would stop blathering about &#8220;racism&#8221;. </p>
<p>It is not my responsibility, or right, to tell black people not to use such a loaded word. There are arguments on both sides of the issue within that community and the conversation is theirs, not yours. I personally agree with the public Jackson, but apparently he was less than sincere. In my workplace, the word is not allowed regardless of who is using it, and that&#8217;s a policy I support. But I am certainly not in a position to publicly criticize a black man for using it; I&#8217;ll leave that to other black men and women.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110288</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;RUCerious Says: 

Isn’t Raul now in charge? How about a photo shop of Che Guevera embracing Michelle Obama, wearing the signature black beret? Jackasses.

July 24th, 2008 at 9:17 am   Recommend (4) &#124;   Report Abuse&lt;/em&gt; 

I&#039;ve seen a B&amp;W picture of Obama sitting in his bureau under a great painting of Marx (not Julius) in a rightie site...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>RUCerious Says: </p>
<p>Isn’t Raul now in charge? How about a photo shop of Che Guevera embracing Michelle Obama, wearing the signature black beret? Jackasses.</p>
<p>July 24th, 2008 at 9:17 am   Recommend (4) |   Report Abuse</em> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a B&amp;W picture of Obama sitting in his bureau under a great painting of Marx (not Julius) in a rightie site&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110276</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to go.  I have a date with Noam Chomsky.  

See ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to go.  I have a date with Noam Chomsky.  </p>
<p>See ya.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110272</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>barfly.  Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>barfly.  Maybe republicans failed because they refused to listen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110272', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110268</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe.  conservatives need their hypocrisy exposed, but not progressives?

If no one ever challenged your views, would they ever progress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe.  conservatives need their hypocrisy exposed, but not progressives?</p>
<p>If no one ever challenged your views, would they ever progress?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110268', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110260</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You are sacrificing credibility on the issue if you aren’t willing to denounce it universally.&lt;/em&gt;

How precious.  The troll who only appeared here, &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; the &quot;permanent republican majority&quot; lay in ruin, (along with conservative credibility), Deigns to lecture &lt;em&gt;us&lt;/em&gt; on sacrificing credibility.

I&#039;m sure the irony is lost on him, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You are sacrificing credibility on the issue if you aren’t willing to denounce it universally.</em></p>
<p>How precious.  The troll who only appeared here, <em>after</em> the &#8220;permanent republican majority&#8221; lay in ruin, (along with conservative credibility), Deigns to lecture <em>us</em> on sacrificing credibility.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the irony is lost on him, however.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5110260', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/24/thinkfast-july-24-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-5110246</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

You are sacrificing credibility on the issue if you aren’t willing to denounce it universally.&lt;/em&gt;

why?

+

your fourth post on the same

subject here at this 

progressive site.

*

i&#039;m sure you are having

equal success at exposing

the hypocrisy of the many

right wing web sites you 

comment on, yes?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:</p>
<p>You are sacrificing credibility on the issue if you aren’t willing to denounce it universally.</em></p>
<p>why?</p>
<p>+</p>
<p>your fourth post on the same</p>
<p>subject here at this </p>
<p>progressive site.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>i&#8217;m sure you are having</p>
<p>equal success at exposing</p>
<p>the hypocrisy of the many</p>
<p>right wing web sites you </p>
<p>comment on, yes?</p>
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