Tenn. church shooter angry at ‘liberals and gays.’
By on Jul 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Tenn. church shooter angry at ‘liberals and gays.’
Knoxville police say that the man who shot two people to death inside a Tennessee Unitarian church yesterday “was frustrated at being unable to find a job and blamed liberals and gays” in an angry letter detailing his violent plans. Authorities said they believed the suspect chose a Unitarian church “because of ’some publicity in the recent past regarding its liberal stance on things.’”
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Tenn. church shooter angry at ‘liberals and gays.’
And so he did the right wing, intolerant, Christian thing and killed people.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pmI’ll be interested to see Daryll’s reaction to this story.
On the one hand, the gunman was a man depressed by unemployment and distrustful of religion.
On the other hand, he hated liberals and gays.
Tough call for the D-Bag.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pmThey need to check if he attended Regents University. He fits the description as a graduate.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pmHe was just an idiot…
July 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pmA conservative idiot…
July 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmThink the UU Church will respond similar to the Jewish Community after a mentally ill Muslim killed one and wounded five in Seattle? Retired IDF vets now train a paramilitary force in the Catskills to respond to such situation. My guess is the Unitarian Universalist Church will take a drastically different approach.
http://arisfreedomswitch.blogspot.com/2008/07/will-uus-train-in-catskills.html
July 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmSeriously? That would be an act to see. Of course, if one of the ground rules of your act is that objective reality is to be disregarded, it kinda makes it easier.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmWhile not all conservative Christians would do such heinous deeds, the fact that Ann Coulter is trying to twist the facts and blame it on liberals shows that she is politicizing the deaths of these congregation members…
It’s time to turn away from this intolerant brand of religion and expose it for what it is…hate masquerading in the form of religion…
Triplekick 2, I would like to see your take on this…because you claimed that we are a hate group, in fact the worst kind the country’s ever known…
July 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pmMichael Weiner Savage – is that you? Just because you got yanked off the air in Cleveland is no reason to shoot up a church.
What? The children were putting on a production of Annie? That’s STILL no reason to shoot up a church.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I’ll be interested to see Daryll’s reaction to this story.
Don’t worry, ralph, he’ll get his 15-minute call.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pmWait…isn’t it the left thats full of hate?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmGreat….he loses his job, yet takes it out on those who are not responsible and in fact advocate for policies that would help him out.
Pretty sad.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pmSo is Jim Wilke just throwing out non-sequiters now?
That’s all he’s got?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pmJim Wilke Says:
CAPAF seeks to provide a forum that advances progressive ideas and policies.
So? Whats the price of eggs in Armpit Alabama?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pmIsn’t it amazing that when something is posted on TP that Jim can’t argue with, he immediately says he doesn’t see how whatever it is “advances progressive ideas and policies”.
One might argue that anything that affects the human condition should be discussed if one is a true progressive.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pmOf course you wouldn’t, Jimboy.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:24 pmThe saddest irony to me is that the shooter hated liberals and reportedly was angry because he received notice that his food stamps were being cut off. He was about to lose benefits he received from a social program that exists only because of liberal thought so he attacked a church he associated with liberal thought.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:24 pmJim Wilke Says:
I just don’t see how discussing one demented lunatic “advances progressive ideas and policies.”
Well, this demented lunatic stands for the very same things you and the rest of your GOP stand for. I can see where you would want to limit the publicity of this type of horrible attack, but it is part and parcel of your intolerant party. What makes me grateful is that we have few of these attacks. As the GOP brand dies, I would expect more ‘bitterness’ from the low information types on the right side.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pmJim Wilke Says:
I just don’t see how discussing one demented lunatic “advances progressive ideas and policies.”
Not surprising. You don’t see much, do you?
The shooter “blamed liberals and gays”. How do you suppose this notion got into his twisted brain? Nothing to do with years of indoctrination from squibs like Limbaugh, O’Reilly and Coulter?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pmHe said the state recently sent a letter to Adkisson telling him food stamps he had been receiving would be reduced or eliminated.
Yup, blame those damn liberals!
July 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pmJimmy, that man is your spiritual twin brother.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pmThis is no way unique. Most conservative blowhards who hate Libruls and the guberment are or have been on the dole themsleves. Look at Mouse Limburgh. I once sat and listen to an idiot just rip welfare recipients a new one and not once did I bring up the fact that he himself was on disability.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pmSounds like a right=wing hate radio, Fox News casualty. These people spread hatred and their licenses should be revolked.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pmpaleolib Says:
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The saddest irony to me is that the shooter hated liberals and reportedly was angry because he received notice that his food stamps were being cut off.
The strange fact is, the great majority of people on welfare and food stamps are rural whites, who overwhelmingly vote Republican.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pmKinda puts Obama’s remark about “bitter” people clinging to guns and religion in a new light.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm…says the troll who, in the Robert Novak thread wrote simply, “You people are sad and pathetic.”
July 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pmJim Wilke Says:
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Well, this demented lunatic stands for the very same things you and the rest of your GOP stand for.
Gee, broadbrush much?
I’m afraid you right-wing Republicans have covered yourselves in paint with that broadbrush.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pmTeleMan Says:
He said the state recently sent a letter to Adkisson telling him food stamps he had been receiving would be reduced or eliminated.
The rabid right-wing state government of Tenn. administering the program made the decision to stop his benefits, and he blames liberals?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
It’s quite interesting that Wikipedia does not mention his hatred of liberals and gays for his motivation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ 2008_Tennessee_Unitarian_Church_Shooting
Apparently reich-wingers are defending their turf at Wiki
Indeed. The wingers are already claiming that the shooter had to be a liberal because the shooting took place in a church. A stupid argument made even more stupid because it was a Unitarian church.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pmJim Wilke Says:
Well, this demented lunatic stands for the very same things you and the rest of your GOP stand for.
Gee, broadbrush much?
I bet you hate generalizations about people, don’t you? You’d never descend to that level.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pmAnd I imagine the “librul media” will, rightly, imply that hate mongers like Bill0, Rush and the Savage might have contributed to this guys rage. Won’t they?
Then they’ll point out that radical religious views breed hate and violence. Won’t they?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pmgummitch, strat, raynman, et al.
Jim Wilke’s notion of progress is epitomized by his passion for NASCAR “oval” racing:
a herd headed in one direction only that endlessly retraces its course for as long as it takes with as much noise as and manufactured excitement possible and the least amount of effort resulting in a winner utterly indistinguishable from the rest of the pack.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pmHey, where’s Darrly and Trippldickey? This post is right up their alley. Oh, guess they just can’t come up with a good enough excuse to explain away MURDER.
And there you have it folks, thanks to the l.ikes of right wing radio, we have flag sucking half wits murdering people in church. All because they are supposedly “liberal”.
In a bygone era, an age where reason and common sense ruled, these rabblerousers, purveyors of ignorance and hate, wouldn’t have ever seen the light of day
July 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pmIf that man were smart enough, he’d log in here to advocate applying for benefits directly with the federal government, in the mail or online, and I would certainly agree with him. I’m not a believer in the states managing most federal programs. Too many ideologies between the states, especially the red ones, that could unfairly bias recipient decisions.
But as too many know, “personal responsibility” means blaming liberals and allowing the real culprits to get away scott-free.
If everyone knew how to vote in their best interests, Ronald Reagan’s political resume would have ended as Governor of California.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pmJim Wilke Says:
Well, this demented lunatic stands for the very same things you and the rest of your GOP stand for.
Gee, broadbrush much?
Nope. I got it spot on. No equivocation, no hesitation. Jimbo, I read your words. I understand your allegiance to the GOP is forever and unwavering – I know that. We all do.
You are hanging onto a sinking ship. I mean, even rats know when to jump so they can save themselves. Look how many Bush administration rats have already seen the benefit in survival, but not you. Your allegiance goes to your core.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:47 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Our prisons are full of Liberals. That’s why Democrats keep pushing for “Felon Voting Rights.” But that is not to say that those felons represent Democrats as a whole. Nor can you say that this one looney killer is representative of “the GOP.” That’s far too broad a brush.
But it’s OK to say “our prisons are full of liberals.” That isn’t too broad a brush? Maybe you’d like to cite some statistics to prove your contention about Liberals in prison?
No?
I didn’t think so. I guess this is what you meant by “debate”.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:47 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Our prisons are full of Liberals.
Prove it, you moron. Let’s see some credible statistics – not just dripping sh*t you’ve pulled out of your ass.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pmThis is terrorism. Good ol’ fashion American-style terrorism, pure and simple.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pmThey will say nothing about the murderer, for he is correct – in their eyes. Party over country. Party over family. Party over self-respect. Party over everything…
July 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmIntolerance breeds contempt.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmI have found in my time on blogs that Conservatives find their asses make the best bibliographies.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Our prisons are full of Liberals.
You’re gonna need a link for that, you pos.
And if people getting out of people vote democratic, it’s not because we’re known to love criminals. It’s because there’s no point of depriving anybody, ex-offender or not, as if to push them into recidivism.
Why subject people to crime when education, jobs, housing, an open political process can prevent all of that? Do you want to be a victim of crime? No, you want others to be victims of crime so you can scream “TOUGH ON CRIME!!! YEEE HAAW!!!” and vote for Fred Thompson. We take the stance of preventing crime.
Oh, and did I mention the insane number of incarcerations for drug offenses?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Nor can you say that this one looney killer is representative of “the GOP.”
True, you would have to include people like David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, ect. in order to get a good representation of looney GOP killers.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:53 pmHis defense will be listening to rushbo, bill-o and inhannity pushed him over the edge.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pmJim Wilke Says:
Well, this demented lunatic stands for the very same things you and the rest of your GOP stand for.
Gee, broadbrush much?
Gays and liberals threaten marriage! Gays and liberals responsible for 9/11 and Katrina! Vote for a Democrat and we’ll’ all be wearing Burqas after we’ve been invaded by the Muslims that will follow us home!
These are the claims of the opinion-makers and policy-makers of the GOP that have been given precedence by the MSM for over 7 years now and that have been important planks in the GOP platform–and YOU talk about a “broad brush”? !!
Nothing that the movers and shakers of the GOP and it;s minions has turned out to be true, whilst all the warnings and protestations of the liberals and Democrats have come irrefutably to pass.
The GOP and conservatives have painted themselves into a corner and you claim it;s the liberals and the Democrats preventing you from getting out of the room? Amazing!
July 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Here’s one gummich:
“Political science studies indicate that the vast majority of former felons tend to vote Democratic.”
http://freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/953
How many do you want? I don’t want to be accused of spamming.
You do realize that this is an opinion column, right? And that that particularly claim is unsourced? And that it says absolutely nothing at all about “liberals.”
This is what you think constitutes a “debate”?
July 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm“CHRISTO-FASCIST TERRORIST ATTACKS CHURCH PAGEANT”
July 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pmFBI Will immediately begin investigating “Hard-core” christians for links to terrorism. “Anyone carrying a bible at the airport should expect extra screening” said FBI spokes…..
OIMM – that’s because you are a troll.
Duh.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
I just posted two links to two different studies that established that nearly 75% of felons would have voted Democratic, and those posts are “awaiting moderation.” What a surprise.
you’re upset.
a fellow troll
has been arrested.
*
too bad he wasn’t
moderate either.
*
thank you.
#
July 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Make that three. Every time I post the results of a study to prove my point, it awaits moderation. I guess there is no debate here. Cowards.
Interesting, coming from someone who doesn’t even allow comments on their own blog.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Make that three. Every time I post the results of a study to prove my point, it awaits moderation. I guess there is no debate here. Cowards.
try being moderate.
don’t get a gun
and shoot everyone
who disagrees with you,
ok?
:)
thank you.
*
July 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pmhelenahandbasket Says:
His defense will be listening to rushbo, bill-o and inhannity pushed him over the edge.
Ooooh, I would love to see that court trial! But would the media show up?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:04 pmHere you go, troll:
Notice “posits”. It’s entirely speculative. And valid?
In other words, the study essentially suggests that since African-Americans and poor people make up the majority of felons, and because African-Americans and poor people tend to vote Democratic, “prisons are full of Liberals.” It’s the sort of leap that only a true wingnut could make.
And it’s a great claim to make because most felons are disenfranchised–therefore there will never be a study of actual voting records to refute the claim.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:05 pmFor more on the demented shooter (and I’m not talking Cheney):
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/woman-accused-shooter-hated-anyone-different-him/
July 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pmgee jimmy,
lost another
pal did ya?
+
well at least he’s
still alive.
you can write him letters
in jail. tell him to keep on
blaming those liberals.
:)
good luck.
@
July 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pmAlmost everyone here has had posts stalled “awaiting moderation” and they all seem to be raced to the use of certain bizarrely inappropriate words, according to the TP filter. Specifically, words like the correctly-spelled “anlyze” or “anlysis”.
Now, as for your claim that nearly 75% of felons would have voted Democratic that says nothing about how many of them are “liberals” which was your original, spurious claim.
“Liberal” connotes a specific political and social belief system that some Democrats accept and many don’t. It also implies a certain level of activism that most voters don’t possess, sadly.
Thus, assuming it’s accurate, your claim that nearly 75% of felons would have voted Democratic says nothing about how many liberals are in prisons.
It does, however, say a great deal about how many people who have been to prison can recognize the impact of Republican “punish first, rehabilitate never” policies on people and society.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pmCheneyIsMyGayLover Says:
I just posted two links to two different studies that established that nearly 75% of felons would have voted Democratic, and those posts are “awaiting moderation.” What a surprise.
Studies are studies; opinion pieces are opinion pieces. Do you need a definition of ’study’ or ‘opinion’? If so, I can help. What a putz!
July 28th, 2008 at 6:10 pmLooks like Daryll’s busy cleaning his gun while reading his Bible.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pmpeople are dead and they were killed by someone who hated liberals and gays. And the trolls here don’t have the decency to acknowledge that fact. instead they scramble to throw one of their own under the bus.
Not all conservatives go on gun rampages, but most people who go on gun rampages are conservatives.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pmralph…
Dedicated and patient work today; if you plan to Cross the Andes By Frog then sign me up to join you.(I’m assuming you’ll understand that reference). :D
July 28th, 2008 at 6:15 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
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Make that three. Every time I post the results of a study to prove my point, it awaits moderation. I guess there is no debate here. Cowards.
Stop being so paranoid, or you will end up like your extremist right-wing friend in Knoxville. The moderation is not because of your point. Your posts probably contain the word ana!yze
July 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pmError #59 — And if people getting out of people vote democratic..
I’m on a roll today, aren’t I? ;)
July 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pmA right sider trying to use logic…That is a stretch.
Logically, you wouldn’t go to a progressive site and piss into a fan. But here you are, all wet…..
July 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pmAnswer me, troll. If republicans offer criminals no incentive upon eligibility for release to clean up their act back in society, why would they vote to force themselves back behind bars? I’m only speaking for former inmates who care to make something of themselves upon release.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
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He was unemployed and blaming others.
So was Timothy McVeigh.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pmSo here’s the logic:
African-American and poor people make up the majority of felons.
African-American and poor people tend to vote Democratic.
74% of felons would vote Democratic if given the chance.
Democrats tend to be Liberals.
Therefore, prisons are full of Liberals.
That is why Democrats keep fighting for voting rights for felons. With the felon vote, the statistics show that they would have won every Presidential election from 1974 on.
You forgot to put the quote marks around “logic.”
You have no citation for your “74%” figure, therefore everything that follows is unsubstantiated.
You compound your error with your statement conflating Democrats and Liberals, as Ralph has tried to explain to you. Therfore, everything that follows is unsubstantiated.
You have provided NO evidence that your conclusion is true, but have simply repeated a slur that issued from the Republicans.
But you won’t understand this, either, and will simply post another unsubstantiated and/or unrelated link to an opinion piece.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pmI see the idiots are all the same no matter the blog. oh and It’s d-e-n-o-u-n-c-e
July 28th, 2008 at 6:24 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
He was unemployed and blaming others. Sounds like a Liberal to me. I denouce the murdering Liberal.
We’re not dealing with the brightest bulb in the socket. But you guys probably already knew that.
He stated, moron, that he hated gays and liberals. Therefore, how is he a liberal?
(Am I being too nice to the troll, or should I take my own advice and start flagging?)
July 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pmOIMM…
Again, why don’t you allow debate on your own ‘blog’ ?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pmto denouce ~ to un nouce.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pmMcWars, perhaps he was a self hater like our messianic friend and Daryll.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pmoimm,
maybe he had
one of these?
*
do you?
#
good luck.
$
July 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pmYah right, most gun-toting, wife-threatening, violent felons are liberal.
Someone is in serious denial.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pmHow could it surprise anyone that a majority of people convicted of felonies would not want to be affiliated with the party of 3 strikes, maximum punitive punishment, and one toke and your smoke policy?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pmHey Obamawillworkforyoueventhooughyouareatwit:
Adkisson, Eric Rudolph,
Other Abortion Clinic murders: http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm Randy Weaver, David Koresh,
Ted Bundy :crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
The Berg Killing:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEED8143CF93BA25752C1A961948260
I could come up with a longer list but this is a good start. Where’s your list of Liberal murders? (hint: Bill Clinton did not kill Vince Foster, despite what your draft dodging dope head buddy says.)
July 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Daryll is a Liberal sock puppet. He’s not real.
and this
we know because…?
:)
good luck.
!
July 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm5th Estate Says:
OIMM…
Again, why don’t you allow debate on your own ‘blog’ ?
Power and the feeling of superiority. At their core, the right side is vacant, cowardly, judgemental, racist, bigoted, ec…By being ‘in charge’ of the comments in the blog, they wield power and relevance – two things the real world does not provide them. They are a sad group.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pmRU, you could offer your teaching services on a full-time basis to the troll on basic logic. But that would be the longest job you would have held, and you’d have to accept payment in Cheetos.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pmBobwurst Says:
Hey Obamawillworkforyoueventhooughyouareatwit:
Adkisson, Eric Rudolph,
Other Abortion Clinic murders: http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm Randy Weaver, David Koresh,
Ted Bundy :crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
The Berg Killing:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEED8143CF93BA25752C1A961948260
I could come up with a longer list but this is a good start. Where’s your list of Liberal murders? (hint: Bill Clinton did not kill Vince Foster, despite what your draft dodging dope head buddy says.)
that’s the one
with the bum hearing
and the pimple on
his ass, right?
*
good luck.
$
July 28th, 2008 at 6:35 pmDon’t worry Trollmessiah. Assuming murdering liberals is actually against the law in Tennessee your buddy in Knoxville will be adding to the Republican leaning prison population for quite some time.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:35 pmWasn’t there a stupid troll (even by troll standards) a while back that would use, as a screen name a run-on name that would change with the thread? If I remember correctly, that twit makes “Obama…”look dumb. Maybe this idiot is one of those mcstake trolls like jim wilke?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Gummich: I’ve already posted the link twice. How many times do you want it?
Even if that link worked, it’s an entirely speculative number and doesn’t change the fact that your original statement is unmitigated horse poop.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pmYou know what would be an interesting study? The number of felons who vote democratic vs. the number of felons voting republican, comparing recidivism rates between the two. I have a feeling that study wouldn’t turn out well for the latter.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pmI did a terra search on this guy’s house address:
Look at this on the map..
Shooter’s neighborhood
Doesn’t look like a liberal kind of place to me!
July 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pmMcWars, I don’t think trolls can learn the abstraction techniques in database modeling and design, and programming requires discipline and logic, and well, frankly, they got none.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pmRU, you’re a CS instructor/professor, I take it? Nice!
Computer programming is too frustrating for me; I’ve decided to stick to Accounting!
July 28th, 2008 at 6:44 pmMcWars, yeah, I’ve taught at the local CC nights and evenings and some weekends for the past 13 years. Am starting to cut back, but it does force me to stay current, and that’s a good thing in my profession.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:47 pmI can’t, however, account for the spare change I pick up off the street!
OIMM…
no blog? then I guess the blog that you linked your moniker to has nothing to do with you? And why aren’t you complaining about that supposedly unassociated site’s lack of debate?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:47 pmBut he’s OK with murderers apparently.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:48 pmA funny thought to ponder. Entertainers “rappers” were hauled in front of Congress to testify about the role their lyrics play in public affairs. How suggestions of violence and murder in their lyrics actually increased these actions in reality.
How come all the hate spewing right wing radio hosts, t.v. hosts, bloggers etc aren’t being hauled in front of Congress to examine how their hatred is changing our publiv affairs.
We hold music labels and artists responsible for many crimes, why can’t we start holding BillO and the like accountable for instances like these?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:48 pmOIMM,
July 28th, 2008 at 7:00 pmWhy did you remove the link to your blog COWARD!
POS Troll
Staying current in order to stay intellectually alive is crucial in academia, RU. I haven’t sworn off teaching someday because of my love of Higher Ed. (I may seek to work up to a doctoral in Accounting. My interest in the field combined with the increase in student demand and professors retiring in droves makes it a good idea. The same demand exists for CS professors.)
I started out at a CC and it was a very interesting General Ed experience. Most of my instructors taught part-time as well, while teaching dual-enrollment English at the high school and chairing the math department, as well as teaching AP courses and serving on the faculty at the local four-year university. It’s easy to find diversity at CCs.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:00 pmGod help us, we would not want a liberal stance on things. Would we? Afer all anyone can see how successful the conservatives have been. Can anyone say RUINED COUNTRY?
You mean he could not find a job? How is that possible in such a wonderful economy? He should have prayed harder. Or perhaps gone to one of Bush’s faith based organizations. Or perhaps his home is foreclosed. Or his bank has gone under. The country is ripe with endless possibilities with such sterling leadership. At the very least he could try to get a job out of the country, where they have been outsourced by free trade deals. Of course religion the way it is practiced now in America is pretty selfish and grim. He might have had to pass a litmus test.
Whatever. He is just another poor, deluded, wacked out conservative. He is blaming the wrong party. But at least in jail he will have time to reflect. His food and housing will be paid. He will get all the things he does not have now. A guaranteed place to live and benefits.
And just reflect on this. Only two people had to die so he could make his statement.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:05 pmGuys… one question. And this I ask seriously.
Over there in the USA, other than liberal and conservatives, what other groups are there? Undecided, libertarians, who else?
July 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pmLuis M Says:
Guys… one question. And this I ask seriously.
Over there in the USA, other than liberal and conservatives, what other groups are there? Undecided, libertarians, who else?
All of the above, and more…That’s the problem I see with the major ‘two party’ system. If you belong to one of the lesser known groups, you ultimately have to decide among the 2 or 3 parties, otherwise you run the risk of throwing your vote away on a candidate who cannot win, or siding with the best of the leftover choices.
In America, it seems all 300 million citizens must funnel their votes through 1 of 3 parties.
How about ‘None of the Above’?
July 28th, 2008 at 7:34 pmLuis M Says:
Guys… one question. And this I ask seriously.
Over there in the USA, other than liberal and conservatives, what other groups are there? Undecided, libertarians, who else?
July 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I think that, after two terms of “the uniter”, America is divided between “conservative” and “the opposition”. For all the rhetoric, the “opposition” is still a diverse group. And I’ve yet to hear a comprehensive definition of “liberal”.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:43 pmInside the house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.
The shotgun-wielding suspect in Sunday’s mass shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church was motivated by a hatred of “the liberal movement,” and he planned to shoot until police shot him, Knoxville Police Chief Sterling P. Owen IV said this morning.
any good lawyers out there?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pmThe local Reichradio nutbags are blaming the whole thing on “secularism”. They really think that “secularism” makes people shoot up churches!
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
July 28th, 2008 at 8:20 pm1Watt Says:
Inside the house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.
The shotgun-wielding suspect in Sunday’s mass shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church was motivated by a hatred of “the liberal movement,” and he planned to shoot until police shot him, Knoxville Police Chief Sterling P. Owen IV said this morning.
any good lawyers out there?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I’m sure the “liberal media” will pursue them as relentlessly as Heavy Metal and Rap musicians are pursued when one of their fans goes around the bend.
Won’t they?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pmWill the books of mAnn Coulter, Savage, etc. display a label reading “Explicit Idiocy”?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pmAnother pussy, lazy right wing loser who is too dumb to see it is the Republicans who are in power and have ruined this economy and then is too much of a complete coward to just eat his own gun and needs to kill other people. Sounds like a typical Republican to me, but the troll somehow equates this POS as a liberal. You just can’t cure stupid and cowardice.
July 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pmEvil Spaniard Says:
Will the books of mAnn Coulter, Savage, etc. display a label reading “Explicit Idiocy”?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
If “tits” can earn a warning label on a cd, why not? I’m as much for free speech as anyone but, free speech doesn’t cover inciting crimes.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm1Watt Says:
Inside the house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.
good comment 1Watt,
i hope tp updates their
post with that very salient
fact.
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good luck
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July 28th, 2008 at 9:36 pmHas Fox offered him his own show? Or CNN? He can be a sidekick to Glenn Beck!
July 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pmThe GOP controls the media, the White House, the Supreme Court, and (until a year ago) the Congress, and this POS blames liberals?
O’Reilly and Hannity probably think this guy is a hero, and that he shot the wrong people.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:10 pmThis is just the first in many more to come. We are going to see lots of conservative types lose it and either kill themselves, others, or both.
When an ingrained belief system is shattered, in combination with poor problem solving skills, you have a melt down.
One less Goper in the voting pool. Good.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:17 pmGopers like to solve their problems with violence. It’s the lower level way of doing things.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:19 pmYet who is it that Bush and the Repubs want us to be afraid of?
Yep…foreign terrorists who will follows us home from Iraq and kill us in our grocery stores.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:23 pmJim Wilke Says:
I just don’t see how discussing one demented lunatic “advances progressive ideas and policies.”
I just dont see how anything you post advances discussion or discourse in ANY WAY.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:30 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
Our prisons are full of Liberals. That’s why Democrats keep pushing for “Felon Voting Rights.”
You DO know you are a liar and a fool dont you? I mean it hasnt escaped your notice you are a complete and utter moron has it? Got any evidence that the prisons are full of predominatly liberals? No? Imagine my suprise, you can show yourself out in disgrace. Felons LOSE their voting rights in most states they are reinstated AFTER they do their sentence including probation that is AFTER they have paid their debt to society. I know of NO ONE that is advocating putting voting booths into prisons.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:37 pmobamaismymessiah Says:
He was unemployed and blaming others. Sounds like a Liberal to me. I denouce the murdering Liberal.
My GOD you an ignorant piece of garbage. He was unemployed armed inbred and incredibly stupid sounds like a conservative to me. I dont know that many liberals that shoot up churches because they are mad at liberals. Then again I am not as brainwashed and braindead as you obviously are.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pmObviously, we need to start profiling middle-aged white guys now. Will a “watch list” be set up for them?
July 28th, 2008 at 11:18 pmLeading causes of crime are poverty and hopelessness. People who have been subjugated into the lower class for 400 years are not exactly going to vote for the status quo. They are not exactly going to vote for tax breaks for the rich and corporate welfare. They are not exactly going to vote for “three strikes and you’re out”.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:18 pmIt is illegal for billionaires to be vagrants, but somehow they don’t commit this crime. It’s the golden rule—those with the gold make the rules.
Above I was talking about “prisoners are liberals”—not the church shooter.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:21 pmLuis M Says:
Guys… one question. And this I ask seriously.
Over there in the USA, other than liberal and conservatives, what other groups are there? Undecided, libertarians, who else?
* Republican Party (1854)
* Democratic Party (1828 modern, 1792 historic)
* Libertarian Party (1971)
* Constitution Party (1992)
* Green Party (1996)
* America First Party (2002)
* Boston Tea Party (2006)
* Centrist Party (United States) (2006)
* Independence Party of America (2007)
* Jefferson Republican Party
* Moderate Party (United States) (2006)
* Marijuana Party (2002)
* Party for Socialism and Liberation (2004)
* Peace and Freedom Party (1967) – active primarily in California
* Prohibition Party (1867)
* Reform Party of the United States of America (1995) – currently divided into two factions both using the name of the “Reform Party”
* Socialist Equality Party (1953)
* Socialist Party USA (1973)
* Socialist Workers Party (1938)
* Workers World Party (1959)
* Working Families Party (1998)
From Wikipedia.
Or, feel free to start your own. We need better choices.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:26 pmThis is the double standard in POLITICAL discourse today…A right-wing whackjob like this murderer found with conservative books at home is only an exception, but when one liberal misspeaks something, then the conservatives and wingnuts get to paint every liberal with a broadbrush…
July 28th, 2008 at 11:29 pmIsn’t Adkisson just another frustrated, small town yokel clinging to his bible and his guns?
And they said Obama was wrong for pointing out the same thing?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:03 amI’m thinking the reason why most prisoners would vote Democratic upon leaving prison is because they’ve had time to think about their lives and realize how stupid they were to be a right wing knuckledragging neocon prior to entering prison.
Agree?
July 29th, 2008 at 7:22 amThis incident is the tragic fruit of the right-wing tactic of programming the disappearing middle class to believe that all their hardship can be blamed on a particular group, such as immigrants, or non-whites, or liberals.
The perpetrator in this case is ill, and needs our compassion.
But every person who participated in his programming needs to be disemboweled.
July 29th, 2008 at 8:19 am