In a few minutes, the Department of Justice will announce that Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) has been indicted on seven criminal counts. MSNBC’s Pete Williams reported that Stevens will be charged by the department’s Public Integrity section for making false statements to federal investigators relating to ongoing corruption probes. Watch it:
Last July, the FBI raided Stevens’ house. The senator is being investigated for doling out earmarks to his friends, among other abuses of his public office.
UpdateThe indictment can be found
here.
UpdateThe indictment charges Stevens with "
falsely reporting hundreds of thousands of dollars in services he received from a company that helped renovate his home. ...From May 1999 to August 2007, prosecutors said Stevens concealed 'his continuing receipt of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of things of value from a private corporation.'"
UpdatePBS has a timeline of the Alaska corruption scandal
here.
UpdateProfessing his innocence in a
statement, Stevens said, "I have temporarily
relinquished my vice-chairmanship and ranking positions until I am absolved of these charges."
Yes!
July 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pmNo more republicans!
It’s about damn time this started happening. I hope this is the start of a break in the flood gates to get this corruption routed out of our gvt.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pmIf the government can run complex spying programs on the average citizen, they surely can root out systemic abuses in our nation’s Capital. It’s more than just Ted Stevens, may he pay for his selfish crimes.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pmLock his wrinkled, old, lying ass up. Then lock up the rest of the BFEE, and we’ll have a real start at something better.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pmRoot them all out, red or blue. Don’t excuse their behavior with “politicians are still politicians”.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pmThere may be a Goddess afterall…………
July 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pmThis just in… John McCain touts Stevens as a strong candidate for VP.
This just in … McCain’s campaign staff disavows McCain’s statement.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmYes, crippled dick, they can but, waaahhhpublicans have them beat at LEAST by three to one.
http://www.beyonddelay.org/
July 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmYes, let’s all patronize TK’s need to divert attention from yet ANOTHER corrupt Republican member of the 110th Congress, and acknowledge that Democrats can be bad too.
It’s just that with Democrats, it’s more of an individual failing, whereas the Republicans make corruption and graft a plank in the party platform.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmJust seven????
Damn, I’m disappointed.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pmlet’s not for get that Democrats can be just as corrupt.
Thanks, TrickleDick, for trying to deflect blame, again.
More McCain Points(TM) towards your weekly BigMac.
PEACE
July 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pmLeave it to old dribbledick to come in with the childish ‘but…but…he did it too’ defense for corruption.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pmOh dear. *What* a tragedy.
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Not!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Rot in prison, you corrupt barstid.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:16 pmAnd don’t forget the buggery, Ralphie… oh, those GOOPers and their penchant for pubescent buggery…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pmI saw Trippie’s link and I said to myself, “Self? What do you want to bet that’s a link to a story about William Jefferson?”
Good thing I answered myself with, “No bet.”
July 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
“And don’t forget the buggery, Ralphie… oh, those GOOPers and their penchant for pubescent buggery…”
and meth
July 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pmand male hookers
and public MENS rooms in airports
With any luck he’ll die in prison.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:19 pmLeftside Annie Says:
I saw Trippie’s link and I said to myself, “Self? What do you want to bet that’s a link to a story about William Jefferson?”
Good thing I answered myself with, “No bet.”
It was a sure thing, Annie. And a two-year-old article at that. I’m surprised he didn’t bring up the Teapot Dome Scandal. Oh, wait. That was Republicans.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThat’s true, TRoS, but I don’t think they’ve had the guts to actually nail that plank into the platform yet. Buggery to them is more along the lines of “drowning government in a bathtub”. It’s something they all laugh about at fundraisers but don’t publicly acknowledge.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pmEXACTLY my point, Bozo…
Ya think them GOOPers would be a little more tolerant of other people’s choices, considering just how many of ‘em keep gittin’ caught w/ their pants down, around their ankles, so to speak…
Thems that live in glass houses…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmJust desserts for this corrupt pig whose been feeding at the trough wayyyyyy to long…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmWill be interesting to see if he drops out of the election.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmYeah, well, at least Spitzer frequented a FEMALE hooker, Trippie.
And really, you Repukes are unparalleled in the corruption department. Don’t kid yourself, you moron.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmIs there a single Republican out there who hasn’t been corrupted by greed??? Seriously??
July 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pmsoo….dribbleydick please make the connection for all the nice people between spitzer’s prostitution ring and a senator on the take.
bet you can’t do it in less than three notes.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
“It’s something they all laugh about at fundraisers but don’t publicly acknowledge…”
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Yet privately can’t wait to indulge in…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pmHeeeey. What happened to the video??? It says it’s unavailable!!!
July 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pmMost of the Senate electoral maps had Stevens in trouble or behind. This ought to make Senator Stevens just plain old DickHead Stevens, private citizen.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pmWhen convicted by a jury of his peers, he’ll be Convict #45678 at the Federal Correction Institute in Karma, NV.
gumm, leftside,
It’s sad when you know the Talking Points playbook better than the trolls, isn’t it? Clinton did it, too, didn’t fit (renting nights in the Lincoln bedroom talking point aside), so it had to be the foil wrapped cash in Jeff’s freezer. Let’s do everything we can to distract the attention away from how corrupt the “Culture of Corruption” really is.
Teddy, my man - done in by the tubes!!! Sucks to be you, huh?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm1 down.
10,000 to go.
What do you call 5,000 Republicans in the clink?
A good start.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pmPolitics and CORRUPTION seem to go hand in hand!
*SIGH* OsiSpeaks.com
July 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
I didn’t defend Steven’s behavior. I hope he gets what he deserves. I simply think its extremely foolish to pretend that corruption is only happening on the “right”. After all, even beyond William Jefferson’s cold cash, this year has been pretty bad for both parties. Look at Spitzer, for example.
You’re just trying to deflect attention from Stevens. The post and the thread is about Stevens, not about Spitzer or Duke Cunningham and the only reason to bring up Jefferson is to try to minimize the cesspool of corruption that is Ted Stevens.
And as far as that goes “this year” doesn’t include the charges against Jefferson; your linked article is from 2006.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:27 pmDharma Says: “What do you call 5,000 Republicans in the clink?”
If they’re all male, and you’re lindsey graham, you call it a good time.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pmJefferson & Spitzer V the DOZENS of GOOPers busted, arrested, outted… you name it…
Sorry, T3… no contest. This is the Year of The Disgraced GOOpers!!!
BTW, I don’t ever recall ANYONE here defending Jefferson or Spitzer for their respective pecadillos. Elliot got what he deserved. At least he had the decency to resign and fade away, unlike Vitter, or Larry Craig.
As for Jefferson, I recall the Dem leadership asking him to resign and him refusing to. Why did the good folks of LA re-elect him? Gotta ask them.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pmAnd in more relevant breaking news . . .
July 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
“WAAHHHHHHHHH, don’t start your name calling again. And again, I’m not even a republican, I just play a repuke troll on the internet.”
There, I fixed for you. Now run along trolly, mommie has a nice cold juicebox waiting for you upstairs.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:30 pmTripleKick 3 Says: “We trust these people with so much and it sickens me that they take advantage of the people who they work for.”
Why the disconnect from holding Bush, Cheney, Rummy, et.al. accountable then?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
If they’re all male, and you’re lindsey graham, you call it a good time.
BWAAAAAAAAA!
How do you get Lindsey Graham, Larry Craig, Mark Foley and Jeff Gannon on a stool?
Turn it over.
How do you get them off?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmJerk one and they’ll all come.
TripleKick 3 Says:
I didn’t defend Steven’s behavior. I hope he gets what he deserves. I simply think its extremely foolish to pretend that corruption is only happening on the “right”. After all, even beyond William Jefferson’s cold cash, this year has been pretty bad for both parties. Look at Spitzer, for example.
that’s a nice white flag
you’ve got there, tk.
did you make it
yourself?
:)
thank you.
#
July 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pmYeah, TK, we just find it curious that you support a party that had four members resign in disgrace in the last Congress and the ones you focus on are William Jefferson (who has been roundly criticized here) and Eliot Spitzer, whose resignation was not the result of public corruption but of private indiscretions having no impact on the discharge of his duties as governor.
Not a word about Tom Delay, or Bob Ney or John Dolittle or Scooter Libby or Claude Allen or Duke Cunningham or Lester Crawford or David Safavian…
In fact, the only corruption you decried was Democratic corruption, when no one here “pretended that corruption is only happening on the right”.
Yet it’s clear that the Republican disdain for the role of government in American life feeds an attitude that pillaging the treasury is justified. The call for government to be run like a corporation (ultimately, it has been run on the Enron model, unfortunately) has led to a Republican establishment that feels free to plunder public assets and resources for their own gain and the profit of their friends.
Sure, some Democrats fall prey to that temptation. But they have a slightly higher ethical threshold to overcome, because they generally see public service as noble, not as a necessary evil.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pmRight wingers wear corruption like wheels wear tires.
It’s just how they roll.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pmOT but dharma, did you see the video on Youtube with grampy mclame and linsey at their press conference outside their sausage hut/fudge factory. ole lindsey was about to start shaking in ecstacy.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pmralph - spot on, dude.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pmSome Republicans are so corrupt that even the Bush Justice Department can’t turn a blind eye forever.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pmKool.
There’s still enough time for Skippy to pardon him before he leaves office.
Anybody want to bet?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pmSound Progress Says:
It’s been a year since William Jefferson was indicted. I wonder if this case against Stevens will take as long to get to trial.
not if bush
gives him a
pardon.
:)
good luck,
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July 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
OT but dharma, did you see the video on Youtube with grampy mclame and linsey at their press conference outside their sausage hut/fudge factory. ole lindsey was about to start shaking in ecstacy.
Don’t forget their third muskateer, Joe Lieberman!!!
July 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmcontinuum Says:
Kool.
There’s still enough time for Skippy to pardon him before he leaves office.
Anybody want to bet?
Not unless he makes a large donation to the george dummya bush lie-0-berry relatively soon.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmI hear Alaska is the only state not in a recession, and is booming economically. Those oil dudes are making bank off the backs of regular folks paying 4 bucks a gallon.
Ol’ Ted just couldn’t help it. LOL. Time for the Tube-Man to go.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmlol
the best any of the cowardly trolls can do is drag up the very few democrats that have been involved in corruption
the childish ‘but they did it too!’ defense
what a bunch of cowardly bed wetting sissies
July 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pmand yet…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pmwhat was Steven’s most cherished political goal?
Ted goes to jail and STILL gets what he’s been wishing for.
how does that work?
Leftside Annie Says:
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Yeah, well, at least Spitzer frequented a FEMALE hooker, Trippie.
That’s what makes it so disgusting to Republicans. They think female hookers are icky. They like their hookers to be male and to sit in the front row of the White House press conference room.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pmTed Stevens is at the top, and you all know what is famous for flowing downhill.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pmNot just ted but his whole family is going to go down and so will some major GOP financiers and fellow GOpers.
The Governor might weather this as she’s new on the job and is something of a pragmatist.
Ted’s seat was already at risk from the known investigations and so was at least one House seat just from the general GOP hangover.
Alasks’s probably going to go wholly “Blue” in November as a result.
Can you imagine how much Republican corruption would have been brought into the daylight in the past couple of years if they didn’t have a stacked judicial system in their favor from the top right on down? For starters our Dear Leader and his sidekick the Dick would probably have been impeached/imprisoned long ago and their gang of merrymen would be clogging up the stockades and courts. Also there are all those loyal to Bush State Attorney’s General proudly turning blind eyes to local Rightie illegalities. There’s also that whole voter caging and balloting fraud. A much longer list indeed.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pmSound Progress Says:
It’s been a year since William Jefferson was indicted. I wonder if this case against Stevens will take as long to get to trial.
What’s up with Tom DeLay’s trial? (from Wiki)
Current Status of the DeLay indictments
July 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pmSound Progress Says:
Gonzo simply forgot to fire this US Attorney. Not all of them are corrupt.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pmTom Delay was indicted on September 28, 2005.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmAnd we’re still waiting.
Big picture, guys.
How does this change the senate mix? Stevens will be resigning soon, and that leaves a big hole in the republican legislative tent. Or, at best he’ll be prevented from voting while under indictment.
Joe Leiberman, do you hear footsteps?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmAlaska is another state of stupid Americans ; supposedly Stevens was running ahead in polling for re-election , prior to today ………
July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmSOOOOOOOOO, sound progress please explain for the nice people how the truth is “gay bashing”? Jeff Gannon was/is a whore. Jeff Gannon received a White House press pass with ZERO journalistic credentials.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmPlease show all your work.
thanks in advance.
ralph the wonder llama Says:
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Sound Progress Says:
But, gee, I thought that the Department of Justice was too political to indict a Republican.
Some Republicans are so corrupt that even the Bush Justice Department can’t turn a blind eye forever.
Hey, it’s not the fault of the Justice Department. They have a manpower problem. The sheer volume of corrupt, criminal Republicans is so overwhelming that they can only focus on the most blatant Republican corruption.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pmHe’s a reich-winger, he’s looking forward to the prison showers.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmTripleKick simply fails to understand that this goes far beyond a little temptation of individual politicians. The Republican party has an open contempt for the rule of law. It starts with corruption on a far larger scale than seen, for example, in the Clinton administration. It came from the fusion of monied interests and the Republican party. The K street project undermined any moral underpinning that may have been in the party. It codified and internalized a culture of money for access and influence. Why the hell shouldn’t Republican legislators sell themselves? It is the very soul of the Republican party.
We saw the same within the administration with the appointment of industry whores to take top poisitions in the agencies responsible for enforcing the laws against industry. Why not take a little money for yourself. The president is a whore, the VP is a whore and the administration is a whore. Remember those scandals in EPA, SBA and HUD where the law is just a piece of toilet paper used to wipe the ass of Republican Politics?
Hey, look at the record of the DoJ. Look at their respect for the law. Hatch Act? Never heard of it. Career civil service? Only if you are not only a Republican but the right sort of Republican whore. Look at the Siegleman case in Alabama. Yes, the Republicans have no respect for the law.
Now, look at the President and his “war on terror” and his justification of torture. Nothing more than a common criminal like Hitler, Stalin or Hussein. So why would you not expect corruption.
The Republican party attempted to create a permanent Republican majority in the same manner as Stalin operated his Communist Party with favoritism and exemption from the law for a small political elite.
Disband the Republican party. It is nothing more than a criminal organization.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmSound Progress
Trajan not only has to pay for hookers, he has to pay to jerk himself when he’s alone.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pmI should have said “at least,” instead of “at best.”
July 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pmOh, my, Trippie!! Did I hurt your widdle feewings?
Awwwww, I’m so sowwy.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pm.
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NOT. Suck it up, you moronic troll. You know you like it. Why else would you post here, where you’re obviously not wanted?
Stevens won’t resign. He loves living on the government dole.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pmSound Progress Says:
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Why the gay bashing shoeless? Not very progressive of you.
I wasn’t gay bashing. As far as I’m concerned, Bush can have as many gay male prostitute fake reporters as he likes in the front row of the White House press conference room.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pmMan. Ths indictment is going to have to go through a series of TOOBES first.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pmSpitzer and Jefferson, Trippie?
THAT’S ALL YOU GOT, BUD. Give it up. You aren’t going to win this one.
Not by a very looooooooooooooooooong shot.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pmMcWars Says:
Stevens won’t resign. He loves living on the government dole.
Problem is, he’s damaged goods, and can no longer function to funnel tax boodle to constituents and contributors. I doubt if very many of his good buddies are answering his calls now.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pmAhh yes the ol’ “i’m not a Republican” LOL.
In AZ, we all of the sudden have bunches of gun-toting Christian Libertarians and Independents. Heh.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmdribble dick
once again, please make the connection between an elected official TAKING BRIBES and one involved in a prostitution ring.
Why do you insist on trying to sell happy horseshit that no one’s buying?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmYou’re an idiot.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
ralph,
I’m not a republican. Its not that hard to remember, so please try.
If you didn’t spend all your time attacking Democrats and supporting Republicans, that might be a bit more convincing. We’re judged by our actions not by the labels we claim for ourselves.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
ralph,
I’m not a republican. Its not that hard to remember, so please try. Anyway, I fully agree that far too many republicans have disgraced themselves recently and clearly their brand has suffered accordingly. But don’t pretend Dems have some higher standard because we both know that’s not true. Spitzer was absolutely corrupt because he was involved with pushing through the anti-trafficking law.
Spitzer didn’t profit financially from it. Big difference.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmTK, you can claim anything you want but your posts reveal your character and politics far more clearly than you imagine.
I never said Dems have a higher standard. I said Dems have a higher threshold to overcome, because they don’t inherently see government as the enemy, the way Republicans do.
Anyone who wants to obscure the issue can do so by citing individual cases of corruption on both sides and declaring them equal. But anyone who seeks a true picture of the situation might want to look beyond the anecdotal and calculate the sheer numbers of corrupt officials, and the extent of their corruption.
Once that is done, it’s pretty clear who comes out on top.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pmExcellently done, Ralph!!! Hear, hear. ;o)
~A
July 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pmAll far reich, GOPig reich-wingers claim they are “not a republican”. But, seriously, who would really be caught admitting to that in public in the first place.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pmFurthermore prostitution is still illegal, and we can’t have our elected officials breaking the law, obviously.
What about prostitute toe sucker Dick Morris? He hasn’t resigned. Oh by the way: Morris has famously been labeled year after year as one of the biggest tax delinquents in his home state of Connecticut, owing an estimated $280,000 in unpaid taxes.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pmaww, dribbledick is STILL holding on to his ‘they did it too!’ defense
what a child
July 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pmForTruth Says:
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Ahh yes the ol’ “i’m not a Republican” LOL.
In AZ, we all of the sudden have bunches of gun-toting Christian Libertarians and Independents. Heh.
Strange isn’t it. The internet is lousy with so-called “Libertarians”, yet you can hardly dig up a Republican these days.
Despite this, come Nov. 4, millions of Republicans will mysteriously turn up at the polls, and Bob Barr will be scratching for a few thousand votes.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pmAs I mentioned, this will be cause for concern for Joe Leiberman, because there will be great pressure from senate republicans (privately, of course), for him to resign before the election, and not add to republicans electoral woes. If Stevens bails, Leiberman is a useless appendage.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pmForTruth Says:
Ahh yes the ol’ “i’m not a Republican” LOL.
In AZ, we all of the sudden have bunches of gun-toting Christian Libertarians and Independents. Heh.
And when they took off the W stickers from their trucks and cars, they didn’t remove that circle of old glue the sticker left behind, lol. ( seeing a lot of those here in Texas )
July 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pmTripleKick 3
WE NEVER ASKED FOR YOUR CORRUPT GUIDANCE. LEARN TO STAY AWAY FROM PLACES WHERE YOU’RE NOT WANTED.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pmThanks, Annie
(ralph blushes)
July 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pmWayne Says:
And when they took off the W stickers from their trucks and cars, they didn’t remove that circle of old glue the sticker left behind, lol. ( seeing a lot of those here in Texas )
We should round them up and brand that damn W on their foreheads.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pmWow, only 20 posts before someone mentioned William Jefferson’s name.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pmI had the under at 35!
Maybe Chimpy will pre-emptively commute Stevens’s sentence after he signs off on Jim D. Adkisson (I mean c’mon, he only shoots libruls). Then they can both recieve their medals from Chimpy on the South Lawn.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pmSo far, Obama’s surfing a wave of voter discontent with republican policies and tactics. Stevens’ indictment will add to that swell.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pmbarfly
Please, don’t defend Spitzer ok? Just don’t.
You suggested a false equation of the two, and I pointed it out.
Quit whining.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pmI see what the problem is:
dribbledick doesn’t like politicians who use FEMALE prostitutes!
MALE ones are ok.
And, as always: IOKIYAR
(dribbledick’s claims to the contrary, it’s obvious he’s a republican supporter)
July 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
ralph,
I’m not a republican. Its not that hard to remember, so please try.
You are such a liar. Just a freaking liar.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pmTripleKick 3 Says:
barfly
Please, don’t defend Spitzer ok? Just don’t.
what are you going to do about it?
shoot up a church?
*
pathetic.
@
July 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pmSays the reich-winger who spends her entire life defending criminal reich-wing GOPigs.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pmPlease, don’t defend Spitzer ok? Just don’t.
How did Spitzer financially benefit from introducing this legislation? How much did Stevens financially benefit from the dealings he was indicted for?
Please.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pmSo using campaign funds to book hotels for prostitutes isn’t corruption?
Different topic. See my last post.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pmTracy5 Says:
“….and Eliot Spitzer, whose resignation was not the result of public corruption but of private indiscretions having no impact on the discharge of his duties as governor.”
So using campaign funds to book hotels for prostitutes isn’t corruption?
For our Low Information Trolls, this is a post about Stevens and his issues. It is not a post about Lincoln, Washington, Jackson, Bill gates, Howdy Doody, Tricia Nixon, Melba Moore, James Bond, Carrot Top, Steemed Rice, Charmin, etc…
This is a post about Stevens. Is it so hard to try and do the right thing?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pmTripleKick 3
You are a wingnut. You are a troll of premium republican grade. Little whiner you are. You’ve defended this nazi president of the last eight years, and you’re concerned with dropping Spitzer’s name on our threads?
I’m going to start flagging.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pmYou must first be under the dilusion that all of the money that politicians wastefully spend at that ego filled whim and call it “serving the public” is a good thing.
With that attitude, it’s no wonder you defend incompetents.
Like Pogo, they is you.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pmTracy5 Says:
“For our Low Information Trolls, this is a post about Stevens and his issues.”
Cry me a river.
I am in a particularly foul mood today - please do not provoke me.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pmUmmm… Tracy5’s comment about Spitzer using campaign funds to book hotels for prostitutes is misleading. There is nothing in the article that proves this to be true. it is suggested as a possibility, but that’s all.
“Again, however, it is unclear whether that assignation matches either of the dates for which Mr. Spitzer billed his campaign.”
Sorry, that borders on innuendo.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pmYes!!!! The “internet is like tubes (or was it trucks)” Repugnant Senator from Alaska is finally found out (officially-like)!
About damn time.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pmHow does barfly’s “defense” of Spitzer differ in kind from your “non-defense” of Stevens?
Just curious.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pmSound Progress Says:
Hi, P. You’re not fooling anyone.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pmTracy5 Says:
“Once that is done, it’s pretty clear who comes out on top.”
You must first be under the dilusion that all of the money that politicians wastefully spend at that ego filled whim and call it “serving the public” is a good thing.
there aren’t many trolls out there.
just one little troll.
and he’s a really poor speller.
:)
thank you.
@
July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pmTracy5
Stick with your best of worst of your skill set, being a corporate shill.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pmthe 14 Whitewater convications
July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pmConvications? A combination of conviction and convocation?
Is this a calling together to celebrate the perversion of the justice system by the religious right?
Um, Tracy, dear? You’re quite obviously a LIV. It’s “dElusion.”
Learn to spell, OK? Sheesh.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pmTracy5 Says:
If we all flag this troll, will he have to switch to Tracy6 next?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pmLets find out, bwahahahahaha.
Um… yeah, since you conveniently missed the part where I said having no impact on the discharge of his duties as governor.
But that’s a side issue. I said at the time and still say Spitzer’s resignation was the only proper thing for him to do.
What the trolls keep trying to do is minimize this latest in a long string of Republicans under indictment for corruption. The thread is about Ted Stevens, who is up for re-election this year.
This can’t help the Republicans in their bid to keep their losses to a minimum.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pmDaryll Says:
Where’s William Jefferson?
Under your bed.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pmDaryll, you’re a day late and a dollar short on this thread. Have some dignity, man.
Jeez, it’s like watching Willie Mays stumbling in the outfield in a Mets uniform.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pmOooooo, good one, Trace!
I bet that raised the needle on the gigglemeter back at ol’ Troll Central, huh?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmTracy5 Says:
“Stick with your best of worst of your skill set, being a corporate shill.”
And you can stick with yours…being a liberal.
i’ll bet all of bill bennett’s
casino winnings you don’t
really mean that.
:)
July 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pmDaryll Says:
Where’s William Jefferson? I will be sending a message to my Congressman on the status of this investigation. Jefferson has to go!
The subject of the thread is Stevens, idiot.
You can search with “the google” yourself for the status of the Jefferson case. ( hint: hasn’t gone to trial yet )
July 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pmlol
right wingers are always ready with the ‘they did it too’ childish defense
anything to deflect from theiir support of the most corrupt party in the history of the United States
they don’t have the intellectual integrity to admit that they have been fooled by fools
July 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pmTracy5 Says:
“Stick with your best of worst of your skill set, being a corporate shill.”
And you can stick with yours…being a liberal.
And if I remember correctly, during this last 7+ years, the liberals or progressives have been proven right about all the major issues facing our country today. ALL OF THEM. So whether you realize it or not, you just gave us all a compliment. I’ll thank you on behalf of all the DFH.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm14 corrupt Democrats. 16 if you count the Clintons who pardoned them.
Google “Reagan administration convictions.”
You really want to go there, P?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pmDaryll Says:
Where’s William Jefferson? I will be sending a message to my Congressman on the status of this investigation. Jefferson has to go!
July 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Face it, Darryl. Us vs. Them will do you no good when it’s You vs. God.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmYou do, and we were.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmYou’re not a real troll, are you?
You’re a progressive, pretending to be a rally lame troll pretending to be a lame progressive.
You’re including a Madison Bank CEO, a Madison appraiser, a real estate broker and a real estate agent among “corrupt Democrats”? Do you even get the concept of “public officials”?
That is some weak-ass shit you’re peddling, Twajie. Maybe even weaker than usual.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSomeone call whine wun wun, daryll needs a waaambulance
These right wing sissies are so predictable
O, and btw, daryll, your ‘god’ is fiction.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pmI guess Rep. Jefferson has the same kind of scruples that keep Senator Larry Craig from making good on his promise to resign.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThanks, Jim Wilke, for being willing to try the case on a blog and declare Sen. Stevens innocent of all charges.
That certainly saved the taxpayers a bundle, what with dispensing of the need for a trial and thorough examination of all the evidence and all.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pmSo Jim Wilke and Ted Stevens are dating? They do make a ugly couple.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pmtk won’t defend teddy
but jimmy will!
funny stuff.
:)
keep trying jimmy.
ted need’s all the
friends he can get.
*
good luck.
@
July 29th, 2008 at 2:36 pmParodyll!
July 29th, 2008 at 2:37 pmGet your scrawny faux brown booty over here and give me some sugar!
Tracy5 Says:
“If we all flag this troll, will he have to switch to Tracy6 next?
Lets find out, bwahahahahaha.”
That would fit your obvious support of censorship.”
Actually, Tracy, that would show our commitment to clean air and a healthy environment. No one wants to see or smell your shite.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pmI don’t know for a fact. Perhaps I should have said “no EVIDENT impact on the discharge of his duties as a governor”.
How do you know it didn’t have any impact?
If you have evidence that a prostitution bust affected a single act of Spitzer as governor, please, let us examine it.
Otherwise, let’s try to stay on topic, shall we? I realize that without Spitzer and Jefferson, you Republicans and “not-Republicans” have nothing else to say, but the topic of the thread is STILL the long-anticipated indictment of Ted Stevens, Republican Senator from Alaska.
Anything to say on that topic, aside from “they ALL do it”?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmTed Stevens: So Dirty Even The Bush Administration Had To Indict Him.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pmThe Justice Department has just handed down a grand jury indictment against Republican Senator Ted Stevens (.pdf) consisting of seven felony counts of making false statements. Basically Stevens is being charged for failing to disclose over $250,000 in gifts he received from 1999-2006, as well as improperly favoring fishing legislation that would benefit his son. For more on the specifics, PBS NOW covered the story extensively in November of last year.
Tracy5 Says:
“If we all flag this troll, will he have to switch to Tracy6 next?
Lets find out, bwahahahahaha.”
That would fit your obvious support of censorship.
a strange world she lives in.
her comments are posted and
she cries, “censorship!”
*
good luck.
!
July 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pmRight. Instead let’s focus on the troll’s assertion that real estate agents are THE EXACT SAME THING as elected public officials abusing the public trust. At least when it comes to grasping for straws in some Democratic corruption dodge.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pmYou go ahead and do that. But you might want to rethink the name of your organization. Jefferson has already been indicted.
But who are you and what have you done with Daryll?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pmTracy5 Says:
“….the liberals or progressives have been proven right about all the major issues facing our country today. ALL OF THEM”
Such as?
prove your own points first
before you ask others to do
the same.
:)
good luck.
@
July 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pmralph, we are talking about a waaahhhhpublican here, they are notoriously 5-10 years behind the times. for example, the seem to think what bill clinton did has ANY bearing on current events eight to 16 years later.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pmLeave it to Jim Wilkie to blindly support his own boy, Teddy Stevens. This guy has been a joke as a crook as long as he (and his crooked son) have been in politics.
But maybe Jim will benefit from his “bridge to nowhere” or all the overt efforts to stifle the environmental cleanup efforts against ARCO and BP on the North Slope.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pmListening to T5 go on and on about Elliot Spitzer, one could almost come to the conclusion that Elliot DIDN’T resign… almost…
July 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Think:
1. To have or formulate in the mind.
2. a. To reason about or reflect on; ponder:
b. To decide by reasoning, reflection, or pondering
3. To believe; suppose
4. To expect; hope:
Progress:
1. Movement, as toward a goal; advance.
2. Development or growth
3. Steady improvement, as of a society or civilization
—To expect development
—To reflect on the steady improvement of a society
—To believe in growth
Are any of you TP hate mongers living up to your namesake? Not at all. All you do is search for a conservative gaff, or scandal, or scapegoat - and then use that as a jumping off point for spreading your discontent. You don’t juxtapose the incident with a proposal of change, you look at it and go “NYA NA!” That’s not development, that’s childish. When someone comes in with a dissenting view of your hate, you call them names, expounding on your already inflated egos. You don’t talk about change AT ALL. You talk about how you HATE everyone that doesn’t agree with your narrow view of world politic.
You too easily embrace the role of victim as a means of shedding responsibility or asserting your own entitlement. You claim moral superiority over those not so victimized.
Cut the crap. You’re just like Obama. You talk about how the system is wrong, but you offer no means of change except to say “What we currently have is wrong, and everyone is power is corrupt”.
As a nation, lib or con, we long for order, that we are not simply subject to blind impersonal forces that we have no control over. We need to believe that we can shape our individual and collective destinies, WHILE rediscovering the virtues of hard work, personal responsibility, and patriotism.
If you don’t believe in the current establishment, use your voice (you know, the one that was earned in the blood of your ancestors). Use it towards optimism. Use it to find common ground with your neighbor, even with your enemy. Use to extoll the virtue of this great nation, even if you don’t agree with the current leadership.
If you fail this simple, nationalistic call to arms, than you’re no better than the mudslingers that we all despise. You have the responsibility not just to be a good american, but a good human. Don’t let us all down.
BTW ~ Allow someone with actual knowledge to fill you all in - TK is a libertarian, a renounced republican. I’ve argued with him for years as an independent, a reformed democrat. So stop your idiot projecting and start listening. Even though someone is not the same political orientation as you, they may have something interesting to say, if you just listen.
is the letter
you’re planning on
leaving behind?
*
July 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pmyes, and Clinton made me do it. Viola! instant republican i guess that means you can forgive any mistake i make right, sound progress?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pmBTW ~ Allow someone with actual knowledge to fill you all in - TK is a libertarian, a renounced republican. I’ve argued with him for years as an independent, a reformed democrat. So stop your idiot projecting and start listening. Even though someone is not the same political orientation as you, they may have something interesting to say, if you just listen.
And you have proven that lots of words don’t make you smart.
Sheesh, one idiot troll coming to the defense of another idiot troll. A couple of big time bedwetters, here.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pmJim Wilke:
July 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pmOJ was innocent
Cue the train wreck in 3…2…1…
July 29th, 2008 at 2:55 pmSo the following were not used by you (or whoever compiled the list you cut-and-pasted) to bolster the impression of many corrupt “Democrats”?
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
not to mention:
David Hale: banker, self proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews (Whitewater): Whitewater defendant (bribery)
Good to know you stand behind your posts.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:57 pmSo what’s the deal. If a corrupt rightie is indicted the bnest response is to look elsewhere for corrupt folks of other ideologies? Seems sort of a weak defense don’t you all think? Come on get with the program!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pmYou can always tell the mental age of the arguer when they resort to the “well, he/she also did it” form of debate.
You can hypothetically have a ratio of indictments for Dems to Repubs as 300:1, it still does not take away the fact that Senator Stevens is charged with seven counts of criminal activity.
And repeating the name William Jefferson does not take away the fact that Senator Stevens is charged with seven counts of criminal activity.
And posting as a concern troll acknowledging that non politicians for Clinton were found guilty nearly two decades ago does not take away the fact that Senator Stevens is charged with seven counts of criminal activity.
Two words:
July 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pmGROW
UP
Cry_Havoc Says:
Joe ~ do you ever make a point? or do you just mumble esoteric nonsense all day?
Statrat: you’re just proving my point
Main Entry:
mum·ble
Pronunciation:
\?m?m-b?l\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
mum·bled; mum·bling \-b(?-)li?\
Etymology:
Middle English momelen, of imitative origin
Date:
14th century
intransitive verb
: to utter words in a low confused indistinct manner : mutter
transitive verb
1 : to utter with a low inarticulate voice
2 : to chew or bite with or as if with toothless gums
cry, something written
can’t be mumbled.
*
here’s my point for you:
learn, do.
@
good luck.
#
July 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pmBy all means, please offer more distractions to further demonstrate your troll-ness.
And JIm Wilke, I don’t recall anyone saying that Stevens had been found guilty. I DO, however, recall you implying that he is innocent. Unfortunately for the Republicans (I forget — are you a Republican? Or are you one of those “not Republicans? It’s so hard to keep track of you guys)… anyway, unfortunately for the Republicans, an indictment of a sitting Republican Senator, but the Bush DoJ, isn’t likely to help the Republicans retain that seat in November, is it?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pmTracy5 Says:
“That Spitzer was corrupt and that his sex scandal was not just an error in personal judgement? Done.”
Imagine that, Tracy knows more than the imaginary judge in Spitzer’s imaginary trial. Go figure.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pmWow. That was easy.
I had no idea that to prove one’s point, all one had to do was declare one’s point proven.
This debate stuff just got a whole lot easier!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pmCry_Havoc:
July 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pmSorry what is it exactly that you seem to be whining about?
Y’know, C_H, I think the phrase “useless cog in the machine of hate that you have helped fester here” tells us about all we need to know about your personal politics.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Wow. That was easy.
I had no idea that to prove one’s point, all one had to do was declare one’s point proven.
This debate stuff just got a whole lot easier!
It’s working on the Russia thread as well. The troll simply announced that he was right, everyone else was wrong, and anyone who disagreed with him was just too stupid to follow along.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pmCry_Havoc Says:
“TK and I had a friend like you growing up”
Well, dbadass, I think that one statement sums it up, he’s been surrounded by retards all his life.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pmCry_Havoc:
July 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pmWhere do you stand on “actual” issues?
I wonder if Sen. Stevens will call for “quick justice” and a quick trial date, or try and push it until well past the election?
I guess it all depends on if he sees his chances at acquital being better than being found guilty!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pmStat Rat, you have no actual, factual knowledge of my own personal politics, my intelligence, nor the control of my bladder at night. You don’t make a reasonable point, but shift into more name calling and evil rhetoric.
You are what you write. I can’t help it if you continue to appear confused and illiterate. You should blame homeschooling, not me.
BTW, who are you, anyway? Aren’t you due back in juvenile hall pretty soon? The class monitor is gonna be pissed. better hurry.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pmYour meager contributions to this forum don’t make me want to know anything about your personal stand on the issues. Your description of TP as a “machine of hate” lines up pretty well with the attitudes of such luminaries as Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and, since it’s not very well aligned with the reality-based universe, one could fairly conclude that the rest of one’s opinions are valued on the same exchange rate.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pmCry_Havoc Says:
“last I checked, that was in line with a majority of the US population.”
Were you home skooled? in what universe is 22% the “majority”?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pmOkay Cry_Havoc but I note that you have elected to employ the word “actual” as a caveat so before you argue that any one I pick doesn’t fit your “actual” agenda, why don’t you clarify that?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pmTracy5fingers Says:
Well you have to annunciate to people like Cantwell sometimes. BTW Spitzer was corrupt.
Wow.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:19 pmralph the wonder llama is correct.
This debate stuff is pretty easy. Just look at T5f’s rebuttal that I highlighted.
So when T5f is not hanging with his “black” friends, or making a small fortune as an architect, does he avoid speeding tickets my explaining to the police officer “I wasn’t speeding. Period. End of discussion.”?
Interesting that T5 says:
and then in the next breath posts:
Pathetic, Trace. Just pathetic.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:19 pmCry_Havoc Says:
grrr… short sighted
With all that hate, don’t you have a church to shoot up? I bet you have all those same books in your library too.
The right side is becoming an extinct species. It is now up to historians or archeologists to try and understand it.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Stat, if I appear “confused” or “illiterate”, it’s because your weak mind is to small to grasp what I’m saying.
Perhaps you appear “confused” and “illiterate” since you don’t know when to use the preposition “to” as oppossed to the adverb “too”?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Another idiot flavor aid drinker…
you have no idea who I am, nor who my friends are (except TK, as I have offered) - either presently, or in the past. And to call them retards is short sided on your part. To call people that you don’t know “retards” proves my point about this being a hate site, instead of progressive.
Well that helps clarify things for me. Cry_Havoc is our old “friend”, Mr Pee, and TK is CT or whatever he used to call himself.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmI did already. What is your real agenda here?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pmCry_Havoc Says:
Stat, if I appear “confused” or “illiterate”, it’s because your weak mind is to small to grasp what I’m saying. I guess it is human nature to hate that which you don’t understand… If I was religious I might have to pray for you.
pathetic
I’ll say it again - You are what you write.
The opinions we have of you don’t come from our words, they all come from your words. Your words determine our opinions of what you stand for and what political positions you will defend. If you mix and match varying episodes in US government - which have taken place sometimes DECADES ago - then you should expect some pushback as this thread is about one man in particular. Your attempts to bring in ancient history as a retort to our words makes it seem as though you cannot stand toe to toe with us on the topic of this thread.
Let’s keep the topic of the thread pure and moving forward.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm