Last night on Fox News’ Special Report, host Brit Hume asked the “All-Star Panel” for “help” in determining whether or not Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) got “a bounce” in the polls as a result of his recent trip to the Middle East and Europe.
Referring to Obama’s Berlin speech that was reportedly in front of more than 200,000 people, neo-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said he did not get a bounce because apparently, Americans don’t like it when politicians emulate Adolf Hitler at a Nazi rally:
HUME: Panel, help. Did [Obama] get a bounce from the trip or not? [...]
KRAUTHAMMER: I’m not sure — I don’t think he got a bounce. I’m not sure it was his intention. You don’t get a bounce out of standing in front of 200,000 Germans at a rally who are chanting your name. Bad vibes sometimes, historically.
Watch it:
Some other members of the panel chuckled at Krauthammer’s distasteful analogy. But unfortunately, he isn’t the first right-wing media figure to link Obama to Hitler and the Nazis. Referring to Obama’s decision to deliver his speech accepting the Democratic presidential nomination at Denver’s Invesco Field, Ben Stein proclaimed: “Seventy-five-thousand people at an outdoor sports palace, well, that’s something the Fuehrer would have done.”
Last February, National Review contributing editor Jonah Goldberg said, “You know, when Barack Obama campaigns, he’s basically saying, ‘I’m a silver bullet. I’m going to solve all your problems just by electing me.’ FDR, Hitler, all these guys, they basically said, ‘All your problems can be solved.’”
God forbid we have a President who is actually liked by the rest of the world….
July 29th, 2008 at 11:42 amIt seems the neocon pundits get paid by the “H” word.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:43 am(OFF TOPIC)
Every now and then I reread this article. It’s one of the best articles I’ve read in several years. I’d thought I’d share it with you.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17475.htm
July 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amlining up your army and invading a sovereign country is something hitler would have done. people in glass houses…
July 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amToo many people like Obama ; otherwise , I suppose he would consider a supermarket like the loser GOP candidate has been spotted prowling around in recently……
July 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amAnother outbreak of Hitleritis? It either means a looming war or an upcoming general election in America. Someone notify the CDC so we can get the infection under control.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:45 amY’know… on the one hand it is screamingly funny watching these right-wing pundits shattering Godwin’s Law and getting creamed corn all over themselves, trying to use the right-wing master tactic “turn the other side’s greatest strength into a liability”, when they’ve got nothing. NOTHING.
On the other hand, you know there are LIVs who swallow this stuff like it was orange-flavored cough syrup. That’s scary.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:51 amLast February, National Review contributing editor Jonah Goldberg said, “You know, when Barack Obama campaigns, he’s basically saying, ‘I’m a silver bullet. I’m going to solve all your problems just by electing me.’ FDR, Hitler, all these guys, they basically said, ‘All your problems can be solved.’
Doughy Pantload equated Hitler and FDR?
I’m guessing he never listened to any of Reagan’s speeches in 1980, if he thinks Obama and those other authoritarian monsters were unique with that “silver bullet” stuff. What a moron.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:56 amKrauthammer projects a lot. I have absolutely no doubt that Krauthammer would have supported HItler and been a Nazi, probably a high-ranking one, were he around as a German in WW II.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:57 amRed Skelton best descibed it as “meen widdle kid”
This what they become when they are grown.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:57 amThe NeoCons have gone green! Green with envy.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:58 amgummitch Says:
Doughy Pantload equated Hitler and FDR? …. What a moron.
This clown-idiot doesn’t rise to the status of moron.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:59 amGodwin’s Law is also known as Hitlerium ad absurdum.
Cabbage Mallet has jumped the shark.
Imagine the the righties’ blather lather if Obama said “Dictatorship would be easier. As long as I’m the dictator.”
July 29th, 2008 at 11:59 amTheir hero Bush did say it and they thought it was just a joke.
It’s interesting that Krauthammer used to be a psychiatrist. As Hannibal Lecter and the recently arrested Serb have demonstrated, when they go wrong, they go very, very wrong.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:59 amObama is going to use the same government the right used to create our problems to solve our problems.
Message of righties: There is no term limit as to how long fascism stays in your category. It doesn’t simply default into our party simply because you’re no longer in power. More voters are cleanly aware that that’s a permanent trait of your existence.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pmMan, are they clutching at straws. The smell of fear is palpable.
The thought of a popular, smart, articulate, and uniting President who happens to be a Democrat scares the shit out of the Repugnicunts. After the last 8 years of a polar opposite who represents the best of the right wing ideology I can see why.
Chuckie K. got the shit beat out of him for being a smart-ass punk too many times as a kid. He desperately needs it again as a smart-ass adult.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm“…columnist Charles Krauthammer…”
With a name like that you’ve got to hate Germans!
July 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pmHerr Krauthammer having transference issues?
July 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pmGoogle “Doughy Pantload” and you get 7,800+ links
July 29th, 2008 at 12:03 pmWell, well, I guess he wanted to join the illustrious ranks of these two other lowlifes. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/ladies-and-gentlemen-it-is-my-pleasure.html
July 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pmSome idiot named “Krauthammer” invokes the name of Hitler and Nazis? Oh the irony.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pmAfter Charles’s latest outburst, maybe it’s time to start calling him the “Hammer of the Godwins“
July 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pmGimme a break. THIS is all they have?
Yes, Obama can draw a crowd and he knows how to make a speech. And the righties are green with envy, since their candidate falls short in both areas. Therefore, they HAVE to make popularity and eloquence negative traits.
Yes, Hitler could draw a crowd and make a speech. So could John Kennedy. And George Wallace. And Ronald Reagan. And Martin Luther King. I believe that even Jesus Christ has a positive record in this area.
But Hitler is the desired association by the right, even though no reasonable person would claim outright that Obama’s ideology and Hitler’s are similar in any way.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pmThe H-bombs are as distateful as they are increasingly predictable. Interestingly, they seem to fall into a broader strategy by the Republicans to suppress voter turnout by tarnishing Obama with everything they can think of including accusing him of the dreaded sin of optimism. Maybe they think the “nobody can help you so why would you be foolish enough to listen” message will convince the younger potential voters to get cynical and stay home on election day. Basically these doddering wingers are campaigning on the slogan of “We’re f#&ked anyway so vote for the old guy.”
July 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIt should be acknowledged that there is some historical parallels between the rise of Hitler in Germany in the 30s and the excitement Obama is generating.
Hitler exploited nationalistic fervor in a Germany laid waste by WWI and by the conditions of its surrender.
Americans feel their nation similarly wasted, by the policies and incompetence of BushCo. Obama offers some hope for competent, intelligent governance in the midst of a trashed economy and national reputation.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pmBut Hitler is the desired association by the right, even though no reasonable person would claim outright that Obama’s ideology and Hitler’s are similar in any way.
Yes…precisely the issue. No “reasonable person” would. But these are NOT reasonable people, and unfortunately, many of the (low-information) voters out there aren’t either.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pmSo no words on the content of the speech, or its possible impact on the listeners? No word on Obama’s words, only the visual of him being listened to by 200,000+ people?
No words on Obama’s view of the future of the planet, only a screed comparing him to Hitler?
Tell me again, why the pundits are presumed correct in all of these issues? Does their track record of failure ever get noted? We do live in a world of absurdity….
July 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pmDidn’t then-Gov Bush say all ‘All your problems can be solved’ when he was running in 2000???
July 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pmIts disgusting to see the full on hate that the right wing pundits and politicians spew. The hypocrisy of them trying to paint Obama as Hitler-like, while serving as the propaganda arm of this Hitleresque administration boggles the mind. If they would turn their ubercritical eyes to BushCo, the could find all the Hitler parallels to fill their daily vitriolic “news” programs.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pmKrauthammer Links Obama’s Berlin Speech To Hitler’s Nazi Rallies
IgnoranceisNotBliss links Krauthammer to idiocy.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pmI guess the only question left is, when does Grampy throw in the towel ?
July 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pmThis crap makes me sick and disgusted. I’m worried though, because Obama doesn’t seem to be responding to any of this stuff, or countering any of what is going on – and it’s still only July. I can’t stomach what this might look like in a couple of months. I know he wants to stay above the fray, but is anyone besides me worried about this? Is “slime” the only thing that works? I read an article this morning that said republicans are getting motivated because they view coverage of Obama as “unfairly positive” – you’ve got to be kidding – this is so twisted!
July 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pmIs Krauthammer still a registered Nazi?
July 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pmI seem to recall seeing a multitude of AMERICAN flags at that rally, not SWASTIKAS.
Face it, the right wing nut jobs simply can’t stand the fact that our candidate is superior in every way, even on foreign policy, as evidenced by his whirlwind tour of Europe where he was greeted as a liberator (pun intended) from the last 8 years of incompetant bufoonery.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pmWhat worries me is that this fantastic person, and great candidate, who outshines every Republican presidential candidate this century, is only leading by 4-6 points. In an election year with the economic issues we face, the foolish war in Iraq, and the full frontal attack on the Constitution being perpetuated by McCain’s party, a candidate as dynamic as Obama should be crushing his opponent.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pmSadly, the smear campaign does have traction for those foolishly wary of voting for “a black man”.
C’mon America!! Get with the program!
Only on Fuchs News could Hume, et al, be called an ‘All Star Panel’.
What’s the criteria for being an ‘All Star’?…
-Great Liar
-Wife Beater
-Prescription Drug abuser
-Convicted Felon
-Tax Evader
-Heterosexual
-Conservatron
-NeoClown
-Racist
-Fascist
With friends like this, they need enemas…
July 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pmHow do these thoughts even cross their minds? Does he really think that was the the image people had when he gave the speech? An African-American addressing a large German crowd may elicit bad historical vibes? If anything, wouldn’t that remind people how far we have come? Both in the US and Germany?
Amazing.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pmIf Obama were white and had an anglo sounding name, he’d be up by 50%.
That speaks volumes about the ignorance of about 40% America. We haven’t grown up a bit. It’s the 21st century and the world is passing us by, but we still have 19th century ignorance that dominates our culture.
WTF?? When will we ever learn?
July 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm?\”200,000 Germans at a rally who are chanting your name. Bad vibes sometimes, historically.”
Sounds like someone is really, really scared that the repukian scum are going to get their asses handed to them this November.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSo sick. BO is no Nazi. However, since the evil prick brought this up, who has supressed information, pushed propaganda, taken away rights, and attacked a sovereign nation? This WH, that’s who.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pmDesperation sure has a stink to it.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pmtbone Says:
How do these thoughts even cross their minds? Does he really think that was the the image people had when he gave the speech? An African-American addressing a large German crowd may elicit bad historical vibes? If anything, wouldn’t that remind people how far we have come? Both in the US and Germany?
Can you imagine how excited they would be if Bush or McCain had gotten the same reception? They would be falling all over themselves to proclaim the legacy of the Shrub, or the ascendancy of McSame….
July 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pmBut because he’s a Dem, we get “Nazi rally”…the nearest thing we have to Nazi rally is the Republican National Convention.
Be Afraid. Please.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm-Bill Kristol / 7-28-08 / NYT
Bloody Bill Kristol chimed in on the exact same subject as well.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:44 pmIn his 7/21 op-ed, he concern-trolled Obama with: while the column does represent Prussian aggression and Nazi nastiness, I hope it symbolizes an Obama that wants lots of war, especially on those nasty brown enemies of Israel.
I love hearing you folks squeal when your guy is labelled a Nazi…how many times have I read posts labelling Bush et. al. Nazis? But of course you’re right and Krauthammer is off base with his observation…it must be great living in an echo chamber of fellow deranged netroots…
July 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pmFear mongering works on republican cowards.
Terrorism works on the terrified.
I refuse to be frightened into supporting fascism.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pmAh, I see where you are going wrong. You forgot the fact that the policies of the Bush administration are very similar to the policies of the Hitler Regime.
Obama represents the opposite of fascism, and that scares you. You need to be wrapped up in an authoritarian safety blanket or you might pee yourself from fear. Might I suggest moving to a place not known to be the Land of the Free or Home of the Brave.
Right wingers are such sissies.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pmI wonder what our allies think when the wingers criticize a speech by an American politician to 200,000 Germans (you know, our NATO ally) because of the ethnicity of the audience.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pmI wonder what the wingers are afraid of? Aren’t they scared of the big bad wolf and the terrorists? Why are they afraid of a candidate that has some sense and is well liked by world leaders? FAUX NOIZ the pretend network.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pmAnybody catch that whiff of acrid sweat?
Never mind I found the source. The usual piss-soaked troll. Good morning Ace, have you practiced saying President Obama three times today?
Get used to it btch.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pmI’ll enjoy checking your Pauline Kael like posts the day after the election…
July 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOh aceomalley 7: The Bu$h regime comparisons are right on target. After all, where do you think the Bu$h Crime Syndicate got their moeny to begin with? The Nazis.
At any rate, Bu$h’s actions, and his neocon handlers as well, are absolutely fascist in nature. Just do the google on the 14 points of fascism. You’ll find it on the intertubes somewhere.
Now a direct comparison of Bu$h and Hitler would reveal that:
1) Hitler was a master orator, whereas the Coward From Crawford can’t speak one single cohesive articulate sentence.
2) Hitler rallied his country from a depression to an economic giant, where Bu$h has rallied his country from a surplus and good standing in the world to the largest deficits in history and the worst reputation America has ever had.
Now, Hitler was a madman, so you could compare the tow on that point. The difference is that Hitler was an intelligent man for the most part, and Bu$h, well, not so much…
July 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pmassomalley, can you point to any substantive parallel between Obama and Hitler?
I mean, something those two figures share in policy or philosophy that is not shared by most other politicians or world leaders throughout history?
For instance, the ability to inspire large crowds would not be unique to them, even though Grampy doesn’t share it.
The penchant to invade countries that pose no threat is something that the aforementioned Mr. Hitler might share with our current president GW Bush.
See how it goes?
Thanks. And remember to show your work.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:55 pmSometimes it’s difficult to tell if they are genuinely as afraid as they seem, or if they’re just willing to exploit fear in others to accomplish their goals.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pmI could care less about Bush and the Republicans… I just visit this site to amuse myself with your herd mentality…
July 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pmcitizen_pain, excellent post.
I think it might have been slightly more helpful to the troll if you’d included a link to the fourteen points of Fascism, but excellent work nonetheless.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:59 pmass, do you by any chance work at a movie theater?
Because you’re terrific at projection.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:01 pmIf the right wing nut jobs like aceomalley7 were actually serious about terrorism, they’s be out there demanding we pull out of Iraq, crush the Taliban (again), catch Bin Laden (if he’s still alive), invade Sudan, Malaysia, Darfur, Somalia, and oh, did I mention PAKISTAN?!?!
Spare us your terror bullshit right wing nut jobber, you don’t give a damn about terrorism. You care only about trying to prove the right’s superiority to the left. And I got news for you pal, your leaders are miserable failures; rotten, greedy, and corrupt to the core. Your neocon masters in the PNAC had their chance to do what they outlined in their manifesto, and the blubbering incompetant fools ruined it. Your ideology has failed, it’s time for you to step aside and take your place in the dust bin of history.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:02 pmNo, just pointing out what I see here…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:02 pmThanks Ralph!
July 29th, 2008 at 1:04 pmAce: If you don’t care about republicans or Bu$h, and you aren’t a democrat or progressive, then WTF are you doing here? Are you one of those swing voters who sits on the fence, too goddamn ignorant to see the writing on the wall that is bith slapping you in your face, begging you to come around to the reality of the 21st century?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yes, I can see how holding a “town hall meeting” in backwoods Ohio with “linda graham” drooling all over himself since the location was a sausage hut with a fudge factory next door
July 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pmreality scares it, citizen, it’s a republican
July 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pmoooppps, is much better than obama speaking in berlin
July 29th, 2008 at 1:10 pmI’m a realistic Democrat who likes to amuse myself between trades…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:10 pmassosmelly7…yeah, and i’m angry trannie annie coulter taking a break from writing my next fairy tale
July 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pmright wingers are such sissies, and, despite lots and lots of practice, not very good liars either
July 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pmAhh… assissmelly7 is a day trader! One of those guys who sits around in his underwear all day on a computer trading stocks… making money of other people’s hard work. You should just go ahead and get on welfare you moron.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pmOkay since the right is having a HORRIBLE time trying to slam Obama for being charasmatic and well liked I’ll help them out (God forgive me):
Is anyone else concerned about the sheer number of people parading around with Obama’s face on a T-Shirt? The only time I remember seeing that in this country is with W. (both ironically and supportively).
I mean hell, I’m an Edwards guy and by all reports Edwards is a good looking dude (the only thing other than ‘OMG Trial Lawyer’ anyone could pop at him concerned his hair), but I never considered putting his mug on a T-Shirt.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmI guess you folks don’t believe you have the capacity to amuse others…
July 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pmAwww! Poor Chuckles! Exuding denial and desperation as Obama ascends and McSame implodes.
Hello? Earth to Chuckles: Yes, Obama got a bounce — a big bounce. His intentions were to demonstrate that he can look and act presidential, the so-called “Commander and Chief Test,” which Obama passed with flying colors.
Poor Chuckles! There simply is NO other way to spin it. Yes, Obama GOT a bounce by looking presidential — not just in front of 200,000 Germans — but front of the ENTIRE world! McSame, OTOH, only looks petty and peevish, the very definition of bad vibes, past, present and future.
Face it, wingnuts: McSame is a JOKE! Just like the chimp.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pmI’m past amusement. I’m pissed at what had become of my country, and I am doing something about it. you, on the other hand, sit around on your ass making money of other peoples’ hard work, and have the audacity to make light of such serious topics. It is exaclty your type that has got us here: apathetic, selfish.
When is the last time you ever did anything for anyone other than yourself?
July 29th, 2008 at 1:24 pmassomalley:
July 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pmAmusing himself while abusing himself
and dropping it into his hat
My apologies, assomalley. I thought you were a garden variety troll. I didn’t realize you aspired to the “fake progressive” category of troll. I think it’s a case of poor execution.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:40 pmNo, it’s not that. Really it’s not.
It’s just that we have a difficult time accepting that someone like you would be amused by getting pummeled for posting stupid things on a blog forum.
Most of us find each other extremely entertaining most of the time. There’s a lot of wit among the regulars. And the trolls (yourself included) are awfully amusing too, in your own way.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pmYeah, I see your point.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pmassmatter7 Says:
I’m a realistic Democrat who likes to amuse myself between trades…
and I’m a mythical Republican fellating Bush and co. between toe tapping airport layovers.
July 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pmYour point?
Re. Sound Progress at 79
Well, there you have it. What can I say?
July 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pmAnd don’t forget the Nazi Rally that Kennedy led – albeit in poor German.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pmOh, and let us not forget that Bush ran with the idea of instituting “A New World Order”.
Translation into German – “Ein Neues Weltes Anschaung.” I know that phrase, but just can’t place it. Sometime in the 1930s……
July 29th, 2008 at 2:52 pmAnd he got those 200,000 Germans to burn books too……..
The desperation is at it`s lowest point with the new Jonny Mcwars ad and now this bull$hit.These people can`t come to grips with Barack Obama and his rock star image and the fact that he is a great diplomat and will be the president that turns this country around with a 21st Century New Deal and this scares the hell out of the REICH.They hate paying TAXES..
July 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pmThe “reality based” community, on the other hand, is impressed with Sen. Obama’s ability to speak wisely and carefully in front of any group on any subject.
Something the Reichwing can not appreciate, comprehend, or emulate.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmKrauthammer has a poor knowledge of history.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pmAnd Krauthammer of course being a PNAC madman supports a master plan for global domination that would make Hitler green with envy. How Machivellian.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pmKrauthammer is more an “educated” idiot than even I gave him credit for. His comparison of Obama to Hitler is absurd on its face and the prima facie facts of exactly WHO Hitler victimized. Amongst those on Hitler’s “extermination” lists of nearly 9,000,000 were, not only Jews, but trade unionists, homosexuals, the handicapped, Gypsies, and blacks.
Krauthammer doesn’t even have the integrity to be intellectually honest from the perspective of historical facts when he attempts to make this kind of comparison.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWell said for a jerk who looks like Himmler’s right hand man.
July 29th, 2008 at 9:48 pmBah humbug to all of you clowns who are dumb enough to listen to the rehetoric..
July 29th, 2008 at 11:22 pmObama can speak… Whoopie!
I fail to see how anyone can vote for someone who has spent all of 145 days in the senate and takes a whirlwind trip around the world for a crash course in Middle east politics just because he can speak to a crowd.
Yippee skippee he’s a poitician!
I would rather see a POW run our military than some yuppie nut who says that the world hates us.
If they did they wouldn’t be flocking by the thousands to get into this great county.
Obama’s adds imply that we are a bunch of sorry idiots!
It’s the stupid democrats in congress who have us in the gas mess and have done a wonderful job racking up our countries deficit. Who has to pay for their voted pay raises… We do!
Get a grip America… Wake up!
In fact maybe some of you need to go to Wakeupamerica.org So instead of your pussy whining you can take a stand.
G O D B L E S S A M E R I C A !
Go pledge your allegiance!
To citizen_pain:
You are a nut case with a CNN attention span… ahhh what is it about 6 seconds?
Better go check out:
http://usawakeup.org/
July 29th, 2008 at 11:33 pmPrd2BAmerican Says:
I would rather see a POW run our military than some yuppie nut who says that the world hates us.
Ahh so you’d rather have the military expertise of John USS Forrestal Fire McSame running our military? (Who is also a silver spoon fed son of an admiral)
Prd2BAmerican Says:
It’s the stupid democrats in congress who have us in the gas mess and have done a wonderful job racking up our countries deficit.
Umm…who is the oil man in power again? Under whose watch the did the gas prices jump? Under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
I’m a little foggy on these issues
Maybe Obama should put on a codpiece and a flight suit, wrap him self in a flag and pin it tightly with 255 lapel pins while belting out the pledge of allegiance and buttraping an American bald eagle – then you mouth-breathers will vote for him.
July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 amKrauthammer needs to make the link between pre WWII Zionist leaders and Nazi leaders in discussing what Jews should be killed and which ones allowed to escape to Palestine.
Hey, Chuck, how many “holocaust” films did they force you to watch?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:09 amI don’t think the citizens of Germany had the respect of their leaders back then. Why shouldn’t O accept the nomination in front of the very people who helped him. I don’t think Hitler asked for input.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:39 amWho cares what this Zionist GOP warpig thinks anyway.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:11 amInteresting, after reading through all of the hateful posts of this “progressive thinking” community, I can’t say I am looking forward to the day that Obama “may” be elected president.
The other interesting thing about BOTH parties is how they often feel that THEIR candidate will unite the country. Are you serious?? I mean really… Are you serious? This country is consistently divided on the conservative/liberal beliefs. Just because a single party wins with 51% of the vote does NOT mean the country is united. It doesn’t follow that EVERY American agrees with your position. Get over yourselves. WE have to work together to move the country in the right direction by finding common ground were we all can agree. Then we have to give and take a little.
NEWS FLASH: your party can’t be 100% right (no pun intended) on 100% of the issues. So what if YOUR party is the first to raise their hand and throw out a good idea… I am pretty sure someone that does NOT share your beliefs probably thought of it too. And it takes more courage to agree with someone you are philosophically opposed to than to stand back and lob
And as far as Charles’ comment about “someone else standing in front of a mass of Germans chanting his name” What do you expect him to say??? “Yeah! Obama really had the Germans behind him, way to go!” Please… Both sides will constantly present the other side in a bad light. Even the democratic candidate that is about CHANGE, is not above belittling his opponents. Just ask that Hillary chick. And as for uniting; He can’t even unite his own party. He is just another politician. Just like the rest. When others are called a flip flopper and accused of sitting on a fence, he is just changing his mind, or embracing possibilities. Just remember kiddies… he was not for offshore drilling before he was for offshore drilling. And he was for taking ALL troops out of Iraq before he was for leaving SOME troops in Iraq.
The Right Wing idiots are just as bad. I do tend to agree with them on more issues than with liberals, but they seriously need the head removed from their asses too. Not every person in the country is a “God Fearing bible thumper”, nor do we have to be. Man, if we could just find some damn normal candidate that was in the center… we could lop off the left ¼ and the right ¼ and enjoy some civility in the middle ½ . Now that is some PROGRESSIVE THINKING.
Just my $0.05, keep the change.
End of rant-
August 8th, 2008 at 6:06 am