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Lieberman defends Hagee: His Holocaust comments were ‘taken way out of context.’

In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) defended radical pastor John Hagee’s late 90s comment that “Hitler was a hunter” sent by God in order to get “the Jewish people” to “come back to the land of Israel.” “A comment Pastor Hagee made about the Holocaust was taken way out of context,” Lieberman told Brody. Lieberman, who compared Hagee to Moses at the Christians United For Israel conference last week, added that Hagee’s “a dear friend” for whom he has “the greatest admiration.”



71 Responses to “Lieberman defends Hagee: His Holocaust comments were ‘taken way out of context.’”

  1. KayInMaine says:

    It’s not surprising Satan admires Satan. It’s just the way it is.


  2. Exit Stage Left says:

    LIEberman (I)Israel is a scumbag traitor.


  3. spencers mom says:

    I know McDroopy doesn’t know about “the youtube” but is LIEberman also unaware that Hagee’s entire sermon is online to be viewed?

    What Hagee said, in essence, was that the Jews of Europe were told by God to return to The Promised Land, and those who refused to obey God’s will were hunted down by Hitler as a means of “encouraging” them to listen to God and get the hell back to Israel!

    Yah right, Joe, Hagee was unfairly slammed. Why, some of his best friends are Jews!

    PEACE


  4. Count Istvan says:

    Joe Lieberman is a pathetic excuse for a human being so is John Hagee. I can see where they would be tight.


  5. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Seems relatively clear to me-Hagee said the Holocaust was good for Jews since they got Israel for it in return. And the sycophant neoclown Joe LIEberman sells out his people to please this bible-thumping piece of crap. I think whiny-assed Joe LIEberman should be forced to convince someone who lost their entire family in the Holocaust face to face that the six milliom Jewish lives price tag wasn’t too great of a price to pay.


  6. scytherius says:

    This is just 2 pigs rooting. The problem is the noise they make. I say we turn em into bacon.


  7. Gregor Samsa says:

    Every time one of these reichwingers says something so absolutely hateful and idiotic that they take heat for it, they claim their words were “taken out of context”.

    I’d like to know what context makes this asinine statement ok:

    Then god sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter.[...]How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.

    Lieberman probably has a bad case of battered wife syndrome. It boggles the mind that a Jewish person should be a Holocaust apologist. “Taken out of context”. Right.


  8. Snowball says:

    Before, and during, WWII, there were Jews who thought they could curry favor with the NAZIs by becoming Fascists. Some were put in charge of Jewish ghettos in Poland and elsewhere. In the end, it didn’t work. Lieberman, and the few Jews who support him, have failed to learn a critical lesson from history.

    I say this as a Jewish American whose great grandparents fled eastern Europe to escape the pogroms.

    Jewish Voice for Peace
    http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/


  9. DallasNE says:

    Joe relishes the spotlight and this gives him the spotlight. Kind of a dumb way of getting the spotlight on you but each his own, I guess. The other possibility is that Joe is taking the heat off John McCain for the weird things he has been saying of late by being still more weird. You go Joe.


  10. Gregor Samsa says:

    Hagee’s “the Holocaust was handy-dandy” reminds me of the other conservative talking point: “Slavery was a-ok for Black people. See? They live in the US now.”

    What in the world is wrong with these people?


  11. Mr. Evil says:

    Joe Lieberman is crazier than John Hagee. Thank goodness that I have no plans to go to Connecticut anytime soon! Those people elected this pathetic, disgusting excuse for a human being. My apologies to those that didn’t.


  12. dasm says:

    I can’t wait to see the right-wing pundits blast Lieberman for weeks on this, every day, every show, as they did to Obama – even more so since L has great admiration for Hagee & considers him a dear friend! – whereas O was just linked to his pastor by attending church. Surely any “fair & balanced” station would go after Lieberman relentlessly! Lieberman will be toast after these comments! Um…won’t he?


  13. Mr. Evil says:

    dasm Says:

    Sorry dasm, I’m hearing the crickets already.


  14. tom says:

    Smokin’ Joe must be smokin’ some awfully good sh*t lately.


  15. dasm says:

    Mr. Evil Says:

    Yeah, I hear them. too. Right wing pundits – So pathetic they don’t realize their own bias. Or at least won’t admit it.


  16. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Look, I openly and proudly admit that I am atheist, and I don’t completely understand the whole history of the Jews thing, but I have learned enough to know that Joe Lieberman clearly does not understand that Hagee is looking for signs of the End of Days, and that his “support” for Israel is a mask for his desire to see the end of the world (as he understands it.)

    At least, that’s what I understand people like him think. Personally, that just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Why would anybody want to see other human beings destroyed just because they have a different religious belief system? That strikes me as un-American, to say the least.


  17. k says:

    What? There was a Christians United For Israel conference last week?!! AND – not only did LIEberman speak he compared Hagee to Moses? That’s enough of this BS. Where are the REAL religious leaders lately? Why are they silently sitting back and allowing themselves to be associated with these monsters. Jesus would have kicked all their asses.
    OK – he at least would have kicked them out and overturned their podiums.(Mark 11:15)


  18. stateofthedivision says:

    You can put lipstick on a pig, but it doesn’t make it kosher.


  19. IBTunion4obama says:

    The Christians killed more people during the Crusade and caused more terror than any other religion has. Now we have modern day far-right nuts like him.


  20. questioneverything says:

    Joe Lieberman is nuts. Period.


  21. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Damn, I wish I held the copyright on “taken out of context”. I could bankrupt the right wing.


  22. RUCerious says:

    Why hasn’t Joe (I-Israel) Liebernamm registered as a lobbyist for the State of Israel.
    He’s clearly a Mossad plant.


  23. pbg says:

    Does Hagee know what happened to Jews who tried to do what the voice of God had commanded? The British Government intercepted the ships, refused them entrance into Palestine, and deported them to Mauritius and Trinidad.
    So if that was God’s will, how come it was impossible?


  24. RUCerious says:

    pbg, sounds like a question for Daryll.


  25. RandomChaos says:

    pbg, sounds like a question for Daryll.

    DaryLL says: Cause it is written, now stfu beotch and get me that tripple latte.


  26. j swift says:

    Man Lieberman is sucking some serious dick in order to get that VP slot.


  27. kasinca says:

    Holy Joe and the lard assed anti-christ from San Antonio.


  28. Marie says:

    Can we put Joe out of context? Like maybe in another country?


  29. Paul W says:

    Lieberman told Brody. Lieberman, who compared Hagee to Moses at the Christians United For Israel conference last week, added that Hagee’s “a dear friend” for whom he has “the greatest admiration.”

    That explains a lot. If Lieberman “admires” someone as disgusting as Hagee, it’s no wonder that only Republicans admire Lieberman.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  30. osage says:

    Today’s Republican Party is a freak show of hate-filled sociopaths, immoral religious and social extremists, insecure, overcompensating, irresponsible, dangerously incompetent, war-mongering imperialists and greedy, exploitive corporate anarchists. Just look at the odious and inadequate carnival barkers and snake oil salesmen the Republican Party had competing to be their presidential candidate. Republicans tacitly welcome homophobes, misogynists, racists, anti-Semites and messianic fundamentalist nut jobs into their party and inherently incorporate their values into their moral fabric and political objectives. Being an Irish Catholic Democrat raised with four younger siblings by an uneducated single mom, I have never agreed with social conservatives, but compared to Bush’s Republican Party, Eisenhower’s Republican Party was a liberal bastion of social and economic enlightenment and pluralism. Defending the actions of today’s Republican Party is advocating ignorance and evil over common sense and common decency. It would be hard to imagine that any presidential administration, Republican or Democrat, could have been as malicious, polarizing, undemocratic, corrupt or destructively pernicious to the founding causes and defining principles of our republic than George W. Bush’s. I am surprised that I am ashamed for the “good” Republicans, only because I could not have possibly imagined how “bad” some Americans were capable of being.


  31. RandomChaos says:

    Tanqueray Says: Stupid sh1t


  32. Jane E. Schneider says:

    (sniff, sniff) Do I smell troll poop?


  33. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Why yes, Jane, I believe you do. It seems to be coming from aisle 31.


  34. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Cleanup in Aisle 31!

    Hey, ralph, nice to see you. :) Unfortunately, I have to say hi and goodnight, it’s late. See you around.


  35. ralph the wonder llama says:

    You too, Jane. Give my best to Wayne.


  36. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Hi, Ralph. And thanks. Going under the knife Thursday morning. be back that afternoon.


  37. Lusmu says:

    Sorry, Joe. I do not believe you. What was the context, where Hagee’s lunatic rant makes sense? Yeah, that’s what I thought.


  38. pete says:

    There is no context in which the ravings of Hagee, and the rest of the lunatic fringe American Eveangelicons, are not repulsive and insulting to all people of good conscience.

    Thankfully, the McSpin candidacy seems to be splitting some of the wackos away from the Republicriminal party. If they decide to vote for Barr or write in the Huckster, so much the better. They are powerless if they aren’t in lockstep with the neocons. Who knows? It may become the greatest service McSpin has rendered to his country. He just may disgust and discourage the psycochristians.


  39. christopher wiwi says:

    For the sake of this country the defenders of the re-pukes and their dogma should be put away until the election is over.
    We can`t afford another Reich Wing nut job in the W.H.and niether can the rest of the world.LIEberman is associating himself with Reich wingers who only hate anything and everything that” isn`t white it isn`t Reich”.I can`t fathom why LIEberman is with the Reich at all, what`s the appeal Joe?


  40. dbadass says:

    just don’t say that the little dude in Iran’s words relative to wiping Israel off the map were taken out of context or that Al Gore never said shit about “inventing” the internet…


  41. naldo says:

    Every time I curse the day Bush-Cheney were elected, I take great consolation in the fact that even that pair of bloody criminals is preferable to having that whiney little putz one heartbeat away from the presidency.


  42. drlarrymitchell says:

    Just think, if AlGore had been successful in stealing Florida with his lame court challenge in 2000, you all would be supporting this POS for president today. FUnny how things work out.GOOD FREAKIN’ POINT!


  43. ucsbclassics53 says:

    He’s not anti-Semitic, his best friends are Jews…
    He’s not racist…he has some black friends…
    He’s not homophobic…he has some gay friends…

    why does this line sound so familiar?


  44. ucsbclassics53 says:

    43…project much do you?


  45. Game of Life says:

    So God told hagee the Jews should invade and occupy another’s land.


  46. republicanSScareme says:

    Reverend Hagee should know that most people who have Joe Lieberman’s admiration prefer to keep it a secret.

    The fact that John McCain, erstwhile Presidential candidate and party animal, not only does not want to keep it a secret but actually advertises it…just shows you the state of his mental condition.

    I say we limit our Presidents to one nut-job a century which means we’ve already had ours. Therefore, McCain should be doing something else.


  47. stacie01872 says:

    One nut job per century? Then who on earth should the democratic presidential candidate be? That would exclude the black equivalent of the kkk – Obama and his clan.


  48. stacie01872 says:

    That’s right. I called him a racist. But racism in reverse is socially and politically exceptable, correct?


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  50. tom says:

    Don’t make too much of Joe’s speech to Hagee’s followers . . . he’s just warming up for his address to the republican national convention.


  51. RantingTommy says:

    aww, poor little stacie, scared of the half-black man

    better get used to calling him President Obama


  52. KayInMaine says:

    Joe Lieberman, a Jew, worships a man who would be fine with the destruction of Israel? Huh. And I thought Joe & others were pissed off at the president of Iran? Guess not. They obviously all think alike. Spit.


  53. purpleOnion says:

    All right class listen up! Today’s word is “progress”. Use whenever referring to “working”. Ex: “We are making progress. The Surge is “working”. The Surge is working in the sense that it has stalled Americans for another couple of Friedman Units. When one pays off his enemy not to kill him, while at the same time giving “Stand Down” orders to one’s military casualties will go down. No “Search and Destroy” missions and hanging out at the bases nearly guarantees one’s safety considering that the murder rate in Birmingham, Alabama is over twice that of Iraq explains why some things are thought of as relative.

    Why would Americans want to win a war that their country should not have gotten into in the first place? This is not about winning or losing; it is about ending a stupid foreign policy and embarking on a more targeted intelligent one. It also means taking responsibility for the deaths of nearly a half-million Iraqis. It means caring about the children with an illiteracy rate of 92% and most of them are suffering from PTSD. It means that all those who could and the most talented Iraqis left the country, leaving it in the hands of the least competent. It means two to three million refugees. It means a population in which most of the male labor force is dead, in poverty, fighting with the insurgents, or has lost their mind. It means no means of food distribution, clean water, and electricity four hours per day tops. It means being occupied by foreigners in more ways then one.

    On all the cable and broadcast networks progress and “is working” have been repeated hundreds if not thousands of time. All of them chimed in at once, without skepticism, critical thinking, doubt, or learning from past experience. In other words it is deliberate.


  54. Fan of Man says:

    religion is a serious mental disorder.


  55. Bostonian Queer in Dallas says:

    Hey Joe, since you are an Orthodox Jew, let me fill you in on the fundy support of Israel. All they see is a runway for the landing strip for Jeebus coming back. Once he’s there, they will throw you into their Revelations firepit for not bowing to him as the Savior. So Joe you go ahead with this shit. On Judgement Day, you can plan on being in Hagee’s barbeque…as the roast, not the guest.


  56. CitizenGeek says:

    Does anyone take Lieberman seriously anymore? Democrats don’t, Republicans don’t. Even Jews don’t like Lieberman that much, He should just stop talking.


  57. galmud says:

    LIEBERMAN: “…I don’t know of anybody who has been more committed to Israel, more against anti-Semitism and worked harder to build bridges between Christians and Jews than Pastor John Hagee.”

    “Anti-semitism” as in the “new anti-semitism” encompassing all criticism of Zionism and Israeli occupation?

    And which Christians and which Jews Joe? Hagee only builds bridges between a small group of like minded influential rightwing Christians and Zionist Jews. Wheres the bridges to the tens of thousands Palestinian Christians suffering under Israeli occupation?

    Besides whats urgently needed today is not bridges between Jews and Christians. But bridges between the West and the Muslim world, bridges Hagee works relentlessly to burn


  58. tokin librul says:

    Hey, criticizing Israel for anything is anti-semitic. The word “zionist” is anti-semitic. Criticizing Holy Joe is “anti-semitic.” Phuque me running, I’m anti-semitic right now for even mentioning it, and i’m immediately gonna get circumcised, for penance…ewwww OWWWW…


  59. tokin librul says:

    That’s right. I called him a racist. But racism in reverse is socially and politically exceptable, correct?
    July 30th, 2008 at 6:43 am

    when Obama institutes voting “tests” for white people, then you might have a case for claiming ‘racism.’ Til then, not so much…


  60. RUCerious says:

    Hmmm, I don’t see a lot of minority Voting registrars ‘ethnically cleansing’ the registration rolls anywhere!?


  61. bspence11 says:

    Unlike everyone else here who just shoots bile at the guy, try to remember what you thought of him in 2000. I really liked Joe, especially seeing the coverage the day he got ‘the call’ from Gore to be his VP. It was inspirational.

    Now I see someone who’s going out of his way to help Republicans, and I can’t figure out why. It’s not because Democrats went against him in his reelection campaign, because his views had already changed by that point. What brought him to that point? Is he just looking for attention? Was 9/11 really that big a turning point for him? Other Jewish people didn’t suddenly fall in behind Bush after 9/11, why did Joe?

    It’s clear that the guy has lost his marbles. I just hope he doesn’t totally betray the party he’s been affiliated with for decades and speak that the Repub convention, like that other lunatic from 2004 (ol’ whatshisname).

    This sort of thing makes me more sad than angry. Defending Hagee is something no rational person, let alone a Jewish person, would do.


  62. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    What Lieberman refuses to believe is that these “Rapture” followers want to convert the Jews and then bomb them so that they can be carried off into outer space.


  63. Doc Rock says:

    Lieberman, who once stood for principle, has abandoned all in a lust for continued power dwarfed on the American political scene only by McCain’s amoral toadying and mendacity.


  64. Wayne says:

    tokin librul Says:

    That’s right. I called him a racist. But racism in reverse is socially and politically exceptable, correct?
    July 30th, 2008 at 6:43 am

    when Obama institutes voting “tests” for white people, then you might have a case for claiming ‘racism.’ Til then, not so much…

    Amazing that all these small minded racist come out of the woodwork and project their own racism upon Obama.

    Not surprising though.


  65. pax says:

    Is there an effort to recall Lieberman? I want to contribute…..alot!


  66. misshusseinmolly says:

    stacie01872 Says
    July 30th, 2008 at 6:41 am
    One nut job per century? Then who on earth should the democratic presidential candidate be? That would exclude the black equivalent of the kkk – Obama and his clan.

    stacie01872 Says
    July 30th, 2008 at 6:43 am
    That’s right. I called him a racist. But racism in reverse is socially and politically exceptable, correct?
    ____________________________________________________________

    You must be a relatively new troll, so I will explain a couple of fundamentals you need to know in order to participate here. The droppings you left won’t be taken seriously because A) they are off-topic, and B) you are merely flinging poo around without anything of substance to back it up.

    No, racism is never acceptable (and that’s how you spell it, by the way), whether it’s white vs. black, black vs. white, or any other kind.

    But Obama is bi-racial, half black and half white. Which half is exhibiting the racism? And against whom? And what are your irrefutable examples of this racism?

    I’m just trying to help you make a coherent, intelligent argument to back up your point. If you really want to pursue this line of discussion, I recommend you post your response in the ThinkFast thread. That’s generally considered an open thread. This way, you don’t drag other threads off-topic.


  67. sunshineempire says:

    I think he understands that he’ll have an (R) next to his name in the next Congress.


  68. Leftside Annie says:

    Hmmmm. “Taken out of context” is the “we were just following orders” for the 21st Century.


  69. ForTruth says:

    Ahh yes good ol’ dual citizen Lieberman working for his “other” country.


  70. purpleOnion says:

    “Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.” – Joe Lieberman

    I am thrilled to death that men with loads of experience are protecting us; otherwise, we might become involved in an unnecessary and expensive war and a small nation might use our military and resources to fight its wars. We might neglect our childrens’ health care and education. These experienced leaders have also undermined the rule of law, and eviscerated the Constitution. I cannot speak for others, but their experience is a wonder to observe in action.


  71. Haim says:

    We have posted a video Pastor John Hagee: A Preoccupation with the Jews and also preliminary report on the CUFI conference at http://www.JewsOnFirst.org

    Haim



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