McCain Spokesman: John McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About On Social Security
McCain Spokesman: John McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About On Social Security
On Sunday, ABC’s George Stephanopoilos asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) about his plans to fix Social Security. McCain said repeatedly that “everything has to be on the table” regarding possible reforms — including a payroll tax increase:
STEPHANOPOULOS: So, that means payroll tax increases are on the table, as well?
MCCAIN: There is nothing that’s off the table.
The comments drew a “sharp rebuke” from the Club for Growth, who wrote McCain a letter calling the comments “shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances.” In fact, just last year McCain explicitly told the National Review that he refused to consider any sort of tax increase. He also told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “No new taxes.”
Trying to stymie the conservative blow-back over his boss’s recent comments, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds insisted to Fox News this morning that the senator hadn’t really been speaking for the campaign. When Fox host Megyn Kelly insisted Bounds stop “waffling” and answer whether a tax increase was “on the table,” Bounds replied, “No”:
KELLY: Might the Social Security tax go up? Is that on the table?
BOUNDS: No, Megyn, there is no imaginable circumstance where John McCain would raise payroll taxes. It’s absolutely out of the question.
Watch a compilation:
Kelly remarked that Bounds seemed to be promoting a different opinion from his candidate. When Bounds said that he agreed with Holtz-Eakin, Kelly interjected, “But you’re guy doesn’t agree with him.” “No,” Bounds seemed to admit.
As Igor Volsky documents in the Wonk Room, McCain has gone back and forth a number of times on the issue of increasing the payroll tax. The truth is that lifting the current cap is the fairest way to help shore up the finances of Social Security.
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McGrampa is running the worst campaign in the history of this country. Amen.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pmBoy, McNumbNuts is sure keeping his handlers busy doing damage control.
I am beginning to think that Little Johnny is not a flip-flopper. That would imply that he takes a pause between changes in his opinions and policies. Instead, McNumbNuts is a whirling dervish that is in constant motion between one opinion or policy and another.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pmLet’s see the man behind the curtain. Toto?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pmTheir best approach is to do what they did with Ronnie Ray-gunz in his final throes of senility; keep him the Fcuk out of the public eye!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pmIs Sen. McCain off his “talking points”, or is it his campaign staff who’s off the “talking points”???
I guess we’ll have to wait until the debates to see if Sen. McCain will flip (yet another time) on this issue, or flop over his campaign staff! ;-)
July 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pmSo, McCain doesn’t speak for his campaign… if this is the case then who is running for president? Oh yeah, the same handlers that gave us Little Georgie Bu$h…
July 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmgreeeeeaaaaatttttttt…
So who exactly is running for president over there? It’s mcstake’s campaign. How can he say anything and not be speaking for the campaign? Really. Maybe Obama should insist that someone else show up for the debates if mccain isn’t speaking for the campaign.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pmMcCain Spokesman: John McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About On ________________ (please fill in the blank)
July 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pmMaybe McLame simply lost his secret decoder ring.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pmJohn MCCain doesn’t speak for the McCain campaign on economics, timetables in Iraq,or Social Security.
But at least he isn’t popular, like that Nazi Hitlerite socialist Obama!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pmIts rather telling that these ‘Rogue Spokesmen’ haven’t been dismissed.
McCain: All things for all people
July 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pmSo is mccain speaking for the campaign when he says the surge was necesary to avert defeat in that war in Iraq that was an easy victory because he pressured george bush to fire don rusmsfeld who was doing a bang up job but was incompetent because the intel that was all wrong was saying that iraq was an looming threat to our national security so of course he would attack Iraq again if he was given the choice? Jimmy? TrippleK? Anyboby?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pmThe big problem here is that the White House has not yet put McNumbNuts on the distribution list for the daily talking point memo it sends to Little Seanie Insanity, The Savage Weiner, Rush Limpballs and the republican campaign staff.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:31 pmThis is not change we can believe in (insert toothless grin and awkward pause for non-existent applause here)
July 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pmIt becomes more clear with each passing day that the Reich knows McSpin will never gain the White House or be part of the inner circle of his party. The lack of outrage from the Reich suggests they don’t care what he says/does. They should be trying to bring him in line with the GOP mantra as they did with Chimpy. They are doing no such thing.
The question is, have they accepted their inevitable defeat or do they have someone to take Flippy’s place?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pmI can remember when my sister got married, everybody in the family had to put in their two cents’ worth on the wedding. To the point where the bride pretty much got drowned out (does this happen with EVERYBODY’S wedding?). I remember vividly how my sister, annoyed with everybody attempting to dictate to her, finally said “pardon me, but I was under the impression that this is MY wedding, and I’m just naive enough to think I should have some say in the plans. Would you honor me by indulging my fantasy?”
I have this dream of a similar scenario where McCain finally finds his backbone and tells his handlers to STFU. He returns to his original positions — the ones that got him the nomination — apologizes for the flip-flops, quits trying to please everybody in the world, and proceeds with a comprehensive vision of what he wants to accomplish as president. After all, this is HIS campaign, and he should assert that he has some say in it. At the very least, his handlers should not be saying in public that McCain doesn’t speak for himself.
I probably still wouldn’t agree with him on a number of issues, but I would have more respect for him as a candidate than I do for the doddering fool being led around by the nose the GOP has now.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pmI can’t wait for the debates. I wonder if the McCain campaign will allow McCain to speak for himself at that point. I sure hope so, because he will be smacked down so soundly that he may spontaneously combust right there on stage. Bring your popcorn and fire extinguishers.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:33 pmMcCain working the reality-based side of the crowd…and his ‘advisors’ working the conservative side?
No one could have predicted THAT.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pmJohn Mccain: Change we can depend on-Depends he can change into.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pmIsn`t Mcwars part of his own campaign?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pmExcuse me!!?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pmBut how the &^%* can the candidate not speak for his own campaign!?
Bet there is nothing about this in the MSM. But, if this was Obama,…well, I am sure you can imagine the uproar that would be happening.
Anyone email this to Olbermann, yet?
Daddy-O Says:
McCain working the reality-based side of the crowd
Wouldn’t mccain have to have a grasp of reality first?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pmBobwurst: What YOU said.
Logic only a pretzel could love!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pmDude, you’re on today, aintcha?
;-)
July 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pmThis is the third time this week that the McCain’s advisers has suggested that McCain himself isn’t speaking for the campaign or doesn’t understand his own policy.
I want to know who’s running to be President: McCain or his “campaign” team?
Also, there is no reason to raise the taxes on Social Security. What needs to happen is they need to get rid of this paying the tax up to a certain amount and tax every bit of the wages. If you make 150K/year, you pay taxes on 150K/year and not on 102K/year.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pmThe more I think about it…the more I realize that, since McCain is stupid enough to surround himself with loyal Bushies, they’re doing to HIM exactly what they DID to him in 2000.
Screwing him blue.
ha ha
Oh, I’m so gonna enjoy that bottle of Dom I’ve been saving since my 50th B-Day…this November!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pmJimmy, is Obama’s campaign staff saying Obama doesn’t speak for his campaign? That’s what this thread is about, but by all means, try to chang the subject, that’s change you can beleive in….
July 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pmThis is really quite amazing. It’s not unusual for an adviser or a lower-level campaign worker to say something stupid, and the nominee/campaign responding that the individual is “not speaking” for the candidate. For the advisers and the spokespeopleto state that McCain isn’t speaking for his own candidacy is quite revealing. There are obviously forces behind McCain that the American public are certainly unaware of, and it would appear, so is McCain. Something is wrong with him (physically).
July 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pmYeah Daddy, a bottle of the good stuff will be in order for one night, but you may want to save it until Obama is sworn in and bush has flown off to paraguay. It’s still 50-50 whether bush will leave office.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:41 pmHey, SoundProgress, McCain said this:
“There is nothing that’s off the table [as far as balancing the budget is concerned].”
But you’re claiming he doesn’t WANT to raise taxes? What does that have to do with whether or not he WILL raise taxes, or what he’s telling us he’s going to do?
Not a damn thing.
So, did McFlip-Flop flip flop in TWO SHORT SENTENCES? Did he tell a big whopper of a lie with the next breath, since you seem to have heard the rest of this? Either way, McCain is cooked, and anyone who still thinks he’s ‘honest’ or a ‘maverick’ is continuing to delude themselves, despite nearly daily evidence of the opposite.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:43 pm27: Pandering is one thing, consistently mis-stating your position, revealing your lack of understanding of the issues that are your strong suit (see Chekoslavakia the border between Iran and Pakistan), and denying that you said something that was recorded for posterity is totally different.
Anyway, when has the MSM accused MCCain of pandering? If your astute observation is simply a matter of fact, why has he not been called out on it?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:43 pmSound Progress, what about mcstupid’s handler saying mcstupid doesn’t speak for mcstupid’s campaign?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:43 pmSpeaking of popcorn.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:44 pmBobwurst, you’re right. I can wait until January.
Then I’ll buy a case if Obama actually greenlights any indictments. And I’ll contribute the max to his re-election campaign if he indicts Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld or Gonzales.
If not…
July 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pmignore jimmy until he responds to a post. He’s one of those mccain trolls who are paid to gum up liberal blogs anyway.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pmMcCain doesn’t speak for his own campaign?
WTF?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pmI’m with on that daddy, we need to hold all the dems to account for not impeaching, and Obama doesn’t get a free ride because he’s a dem either. If he doesn’t restore the rule of law then to hell with him.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pmAnd the trolls dutifully squawk “Obama did it”.
First, McSpin is not “running towards the center”. He’s pandering to every extremist in the country.
Second. There’s a huge difference between Obama’s moderation and McSpin’s campaign suggesting the old coot doesn’t speak for his own campaign.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pmtrajan/gigi has a new moniker.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pmPossible script for McCain’s next campaign ad:
Wherever there are issues, John McCain is there.
No-one takes a stand on issues like John McCain.
There’s no issue that John McCain hasn’t taken a stand on.
If he sees an issue he stands on it.
John McCain understands that voters care about more than one issue.
For every issue a voter has, John McCain has a stand on it.
In fact John McCain has taken more stands on more issues more often than any other candidate in history.
John McCain ‘owns’ issues.
John McCain ‘gets’ issues.
And Obama? He’s still looking for Czechoslovakia on the map!
This November, vote for McCain, the candidate with the most issues!
aaannndddd….SCENE!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:53 pmSo McCain then is not running for president. At least not by himself, he’s part of a collective–Team McCain.
Therefore:
1)Ballots should reflect this collective, i.e. Team McCain, McCain and his handlers.
2)Obama’s oppo research suddenly has tons more potential material as the body McCain can now be dissected member by member.
3)Who exactly does speak for McCain if not the man himself?
4)Who and how many people from the body McCain will get to speak at the debates?
And I can’t be the only one who is looking forward to the debates. I hope they add ten more.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pmMcBlabber: I speak for me - except when I don’t!
July 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pmMcIIIrd not only doesn’t speak for his campaign, he doesn’t speak for himself, or anyone you know.
He doesn’t speak for Americans, nor rural folks, nor urban folks, nor the young, nor the old.
He doesn’t speak for anything except to hear the hollow ring of his words echo in his sadly empty skull.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pmSee what happens to a troll when they depend on “librul” blogs for their talking points? Could they have missed all the Reichwing pundits who are saying that McSpin’s campaign needs to “keep him on the message”? Why, no less a figure than David Brooks has said that McSpin’s handlers need to keep him on “the areas he shows more strength”.
Of course, knowledgeable clever people knew that.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pmI don’t think Sound Progress respects Mr. Obama…. Whatever.
July 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pmAgain, I hate to nitpick, but this is getting seriously silly.
“But you’re guy doesn’t agree with him.”
“you’re guy”? WTF!?
And this is only one of today’s misspells. It is the kind of error I expect from the home schooled, trolling morons… we all know who they are…
July 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pmVideo of McCain’s temper getting the best of him during the up-coming debates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFK-vzQzpU
July 29th, 2008 at 4:03 pmAsk not for whom McCain speaks, he speaks for no one (apparently)!
July 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pmSound Progress,
You actually WANT to see McDepends get his hat handed to him in a debate with Obama?
Are you a masochist or what?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pmSound progress: If these “town hall” debates are anything like Bu$h’s “town hall” sessions, I can see why Obama would pass. I mean, you do remember that only republicans who swore an oath to Bu$h were allowed to attend some of these functions. At any rate, McCain has used the same tactics already this year.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pmWait, so now these Bush cultists are defending McCain latest “change of heart”, telling us flip-flopping is a good thing?
What a difference four years make.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pmupside99 Says:
You actually WANT to see McDepends get his hat handed to him in a debate with Obama?
Are you a masochist or what?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
No upside. The Reich is just counting on Katie Couric to edit the debates before they go “live”.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:10 pmWell, the Obama campaign surrogates are doing a pretty lousy job of fighting back against the McCain attacks — where is Hillary again? — I don’t expect Obama to pounce on McCain for these numerous gaffes, but the guy said he wouldn’t be swiftboated yet the swiftboaters are in the waters. This thread indicates AGAIN that McCain is bumbling, stumbling and contradicting himself on a daily basis, but no one is keeping these things in the daily news cycles. Certainly the press excuses him and the general public is unaware that the dotty old man is running for the highest office.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:13 pmSound Progress Says:
I want to see a series of town hall meetings where McCain and Obama stand before the audience with no teleprompters, no notes and no canned, softball questions.
Be careful what you wish for.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:15 pmHi Daryll:
July 29th, 2008 at 4:16 pmHave you considered talking to god? Maybe he can tell you that Huck will be pres or maybe resurrect Stepford Romney. You never know, it might be worth a shot. I hear he/she/it works in messed up ways…
Sound Progress Says:
I want to see a series of town hall meetings where McCain and Obama stand before the audience with no teleprompters, no notes and no canned, softball questions. Obama will be lost, unable to say anything but Hope, Change, Hope, Chage, Hope, Change…(where the hell’s my teleprompter). I don’t think he’ll be able to remember if he is supposed to be on flip or flop today.
It must be difficult walking around with those blinders on. You have clearly never actually heard Obama speak or debate, but you’ve also clearly never heard McCain either. And you’ve got the teleprompter thing completely bassackwards.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:16 pmThe “maverick” moniker is not, as one may think, a testament to independent thinking. Rather, it’s the description of McSpin’s MO.
Since his earliest days in the Senate, McSpin has had a reputation for talking one way and voting another. He has even, regularly, voted against legislation he vocally supported or even sponsored. And, of course, his votes fall on the side of the party some 95% of the time.
He’s not, nor has he ever been, independent. He’s just a pathological liar and tool of the GOP.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:17 pmSound Progress:
July 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pmWhat do you think McCain will say? If it gets tough do you think he will just give up and sign a confessional of loss? I regret the man’s difficult times but don’t feed me your bullshit
Aapparently evangelicals are warning McCain not to ask Romney to be veep. They’d prefer Huckleberry.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:19 pmNo matter who he picks this side of Ted Stevens, he will look pretty old and incapable by comparison. More comments like this further my own thinking that McGrumpy will take “ill” and have to withdraw for the good the the party and the nation, and one of the also-rans will step in.
Sound Progress: What planet are you on? Obama would eviscerate McCain, no question. A Harvard law grad versus mister I got in the navy officer core because of admiral daddy and graduated fifth from the bottom of his class?
Bring it on!
July 29th, 2008 at 4:20 pmSound like the news is changing his words to be what ever it is they want. I didn’t hear that he was saying he was raising taxes, I heard him say he would be open to what would work.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:21 pmSound Progress,
Have you ever seen or heard McDepends in a REAL Town Hall session; not just a Dubya ‘invited guests only’ scenario? No, because there never has been one. I tried to get into one in Denver and was told ‘I wasn’t on the list’.
He will blow his lid the first time he gets wiped on an issue or when someone in the audience doesn’t totally agree with him.
And as for teleprompters, Johnny Boy has to have 3 now in some venues. The mind and the eyes just ain’t what they used to be.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:23 pmWow! Daryll’s half way there.
I’m really glad you have recognized McSpin’s inadequacy. That could not have been easy. But the harder part is still ahead.
That is the part where you realize that McSpin’s faults aren’t do to age, they are the result of his loyal service to a corrupt, and corrupting, force which is mislabeled as “conservatism”.
Reckless radicalism has always been a danger to democracy. It’s time to bury the current incarnation.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:25 pmHuckabee represents Jesus? Time to renounce my faith.
(Just kidding, Lord.)
July 29th, 2008 at 4:27 pmDaryll,
Does that mean you now support Sen. Obama, or are you going to vote a write-in for Huchster or maybe Barr?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:27 pmBefore? He said “no new taxes”. After? He said “everything’s on the table”.
That’s a “flip-flop” to the reality based community.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:29 pmDaryll - Can you say, “The American Taliban”?
I’d like our nation’s representative to be representing the people thank you very much.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pmI wonder if Sound advice and the other trolls waiting for the debates ever actually looked at this little gem of Johnny Boy’s?
I am sure we will be seeing more of that as time marches towards November.
Heh Heh
July 29th, 2008 at 4:34 pmI think I understand why the press may give McCain a free pass. It must feel like kicking a dead horse when he offers up these doozies.
Serioulsy, can the guy make it to November like this?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:35 pmIf nothing else, McSpin has performed a service to this country. He has managed to drive a wedge between the religious right and the neocons. Without the slavish vote of the psycochristians the Reich will crumble in self recrimination and, perhaps, we can bring an end to a national nightmare.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:35 pmDaryll that isn’t a very good idea. Mr Barr has a lot of background which is sort of smarmy and not so Christian like. He is also is violating god’s laws by running for a party whose platform includes the repeal of prohibition of recreational drug use laws which I can’t imagine you support. This is particularily disconcerting when you remember that he was one of the biggest advocates of manditory minimums for nonviolent drug offenders. Not really very libertarian after all…
July 29th, 2008 at 4:35 pmDaryll. Define “socialism”.
This could be good.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:36 pmWow. I didn’t know Jesus needed a representative?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pmFor extra credit.
Point out where the Buy-bull says, “and let their not be socialism”.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:39 pmtbone Says:
Wow. I didn’t know Jesus needed a representative?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I’m still trying to figure out why God needs money.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:40 pmJesus is a liberal….the original liberal for that matter.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:41 pmDaryll, real or fake, provides endless entertainment and, on occasion, helps to sharpen arguments against Reichwing authoritarianism and idiocy in general. The second string trolls would do well to study his methods.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:45 pmDon’t let us down Daryll. I REALLY want to hear your definition of “socialism”.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:46 pmC’mon Daryll. What is “socialism” and, for extra credit, what’s “evil” about it.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:51 pmSound Progress:
July 29th, 2008 at 4:54 pmYou read sort of like a dweeb. Are you a dweeb? Just wondering. Oh and don’t be dissing Daryll. Daryll is the shits!
Regardless of intent, Daryll, you are entertaining. And I still want to hear your definition of “socialism”.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:56 pmSound Progress Says:
Daryll claims to be a conservative, but links to an all black church that endorses Obama.
Please point to the church’s endorsement of Obama.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:58 pmDaryll Says
July 29th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
…but I want Gov. Huckabee to represent the GOP, as well as the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Um…you really think the Lord Jesus Christ is going to take sides in this election? And even if He did, do you think He’s going to endorse a party that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer? Do you think He’s going to endorse a party that attacks other countries without provocation? Do you think He’s going to endorse a party that would deny people basic medical care? Do you think He’s going to endorse a party that stands for bigotry and hatred? Do you think He’s going to endorse a party that stands for many of the things He preached against?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:58 pmThis is insane. Talk about being a puppet.
Why don’t mcchimpy tell his staff who’s the boss?
Polls lie.
July 29th, 2008 at 5:06 pm101
Sounds like a good argument for an Estate Tax. I hate to think of all those lazy people inheriting tons of money and getting benefits they didn’t work for.
July 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pmDaryll Says
July 29th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
First, Saddam was a threat to peace in the Middle East. Two, I never knew that we (GOP) stood for hatred. Didn’t we abolish slavery. Three, it’s your party that supports homosexuality, terrorism, abortion, etc. Your party is full of sin, not the GOP.
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This response of yours is completely laughable. And wrong on so many levels.
Unfortunately, I need to get out of here, so I don’t have time to rebut your points one by one. Perhaps later this evening if I have time.
In the meantime, I’m sure several other posters can tear your argument to shreds — that is, if they think it’s worth the time.
July 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pmDaryll, DAryll, Daryll,
Who supports terrorism, again? Who allowed 9/11 to happen on their watch and said that ‘they really didn’t think about OBL that much’? Who started an illegal (and immoral) invasion and occupation of a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 but left the main supporting countries (Saudi and Pakistan) alone? Who has all those closet homosexuals in their party, that are too ashamed to admit it?
And guess what, Daryll; the ME was MUCH more at peace BEFORE Dubya’s Ego and Oil invasion. And, oil was $22/bbl, not $138/bbl.
Try again, OK?
July 29th, 2008 at 5:17 pmMissmolly,
We got your back. Go in Peace.
July 29th, 2008 at 5:18 pmDaryll Says:
First, Saddam was a threat to peace in the Middle East. Two, I never knew that we (GOP) stood for hatred. Didn’t we abolish slavery. Three, it’s your party that supports homosexuality, terrorism, abortion, etc. Your party is full of sin, not the GOP.
First, Saddam was not a threat to peace in the Middle East, because, as President Bush’s own Secretary of State, Colin Powell, said, “Saddam was contained.”
Second, as i have said before, the platform and message of today’s Republican Party (and do note that I said “today’s”) is one that appeals to racists, bigots, homophobes and other miscreants, as well as the incredibly wealthy who couldn’t give a sh!t about the poor. And you shouldn’t make the mistake of attributing to “Republicans” was can only rightly be attributed to Liberals, regardless of party affiliation. It was Liberals that ended slavery and conservatives who wanted to keep it going.
And three, it’s only a “sin” if you adhere to a religious belief system that declares it to be so. And, as I have mentioned to you before, we are a secular nation, the idea that we are all “sinners” is ridiculous. But since the GOP is the party heavily into politicizing religion, how do you explain all the lawbreakers in the current administration?
July 29th, 2008 at 5:24 pmDid George W. Bush help usher in the abolition of slavery or was that Abraham Lincoln?
July 29th, 2008 at 5:39 pmA simple “I don’t know” would have sufficed, Daryll. In fact, the only precept of socialism is that society is served at the expense of individualism or ideology. Socialism is merely a theory which holds the society above the individual. That being said, socialism doesn’t infringe on the rights of the individual.
Here’s a newsflash, “socialism” isn’t an economic policy. It has nothing to do with Marxism or communism. And, democracy can’t exist without “socialism”. Once again, the Reich has demonized that which they claim to uphold and they do it by simply lying to us, each other, and themselves.
July 29th, 2008 at 5:46 pmLiberal Republicans, Daryll. LIBERAL.
July 29th, 2008 at 6:12 pmDaryll Says
July 29th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Uh, no. Republicans abolished slavery (an ex-Democrat, who came out of the darkness).
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Did you even bother to read Wayne’s post? He said “It was Liberals that ended slavery and conservatives who wanted to keep it going.” And he’s right. Of course, the Republicans WERE the liberals and the progressives at that time, and the liberals and progressives of today applaud what they did. Yes, Republicans abolished slavery. Yes, their numbers included many ex-Democrats and many ex-Whigs. Your link does nothing to rebut Wayne’s point, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the GOP today.
And Wayne responded to your pack of misinformation very well — I can’t think of anything to add to it.
July 29th, 2008 at 6:20 pmDaryll Says:
My perspective, if you are angry that the rich/upper middle class are not paying enough taxes and are receiving benefits that you can’t receive, get off of your lazy butt and become an enterprising person. Socialism=communism, liberalism=laziness. I refuse to financially support people who are not educationally motivated. In order to work, you must eat. If you want lobster, prepare yourself for that type of life.
Who do you think we are anyway? I am betting that everyone posting here is in much better financial condition and much more educated than you are.
Don’t assume you know what my assets are. I came from a poor family, but we worked very hard and got ahead. Now I can afford to eat lobster every night of the week if I wanted to. I can even afford to feed you, if you told me you were hungry. I graduated summa cum laude from a private university in the Northeast and am a member of Phi Beta Kappa. The generosity of the federal gov’t plus private individuals put me through college, and I couldn’t have done it otherwise. I also worked several jobs while in school. Do I pay a lot of taxes? Yes. But I want to give back to others so they can have the same opportunities I did.
Also, I was in the Army ROTC and a member of Scabbard & Blade (the national military honor society). I would have been commissioned as an officer in the army had I not come down with a chronic illness that I was disqualified for.
You also assume to know my values, and you do not. I am pro ALL life. Not like members of your party who pick and choose whose life is more valuable. I am against abortion, the death penalty, and war. As for homosexuality, I think that the government has no business telling everyone how to run their personal lives. I do not judge others, and leave the judging to God. (And I pray daily!)
So let’s hear a little about you.
July 29th, 2008 at 6:37 pmThanks, misshusseinmolly. Appreciate the backup.
July 29th, 2008 at 6:42 pmScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush). Darryl hasn’t been around much lately, so I don’t know how familiar you are with our resident “Psycochristian”. He’s either a fiendishly clever parody or a full blown, Rapture Ready, lunatic.
He can be entertaining when I’m in the right mood but, he will never, ever, offer a reality based opinion on any subject. He’s immune to the effects of reason and logic. I don’t want you to waste time trying to appeal to a humanity which isn’t there.
July 29th, 2008 at 7:04 pmWhen McCain speaks, what he says isn’t necessarily what the McCain campaign says. Straight talk express all the way !
I can’t come up with something silly and inane enough to comment on this.
I would like , however to show up at a McCain campaign and lead a chant of
Four More Years !
Four More Years !
Four More Years !
Not only based on issues, but as McCain seems to be so adled that he makes Shrub look coherrent.
July 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pmSurely they aren’t implying McCain knows what he’s talking about - about anything? He changes his story daily on everything he “believes” - no one can tell what his true policies are. He is floundering, forgetful of his last speech, and scambling to please the audience at the next. A sad, sad man.
July 29th, 2008 at 10:20 pmYepper, definitely… early Alzheimer’s. The stress of campaigning must be speeding up his dementia.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:35 pmI should have said, McCain is just confused, again.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:36 pmLooking forward to the debates. Should be interesting.
July 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm” . . . I refuse to financially support people who are not educationally motivated. In order to work, you must eat. If you want lobster, prepare yourself for that type of life.” -_ Daryl
Oh my, seems this line has been posted several times before, please re-write the script somewhat, or shuffle the posting days a little . . . Pete has it right, you are a chain yankin’ comic, packin’ the bong, sorting da ’shrooms with your gay black son, laughing at what a great time you are having here . . .
Liten up, it’s getting boring.
July 30th, 2008 at 12:40 amJohn McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About… THAT’S IT. END IT THERE!
July 30th, 2008 at 9:55 am