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		<title>By: bitblt</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;
DRxJ Says:

Jim Adkisson, the man who shot two people to death in a Tennessee Unitarian church this week because he was angry at “liberals and gays,” had an array of right-wing books at his home.

Unfortunately, this is what can happen when an individual can’t or won’t think on his own, when he or she is spoon feed what to believe. To be honest, it was only a matter of time before someone snapped regarding liberals.
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His unwarranted anger should have been directed towards the right, yet his zombified brain couldn’t comprehend that the left wants to help him, not ignore him.
By the way, I DO NOT condone any violence towards any political party. Yet, the right’s legion does, for whatever reason (ie mAnn Coulter).
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July 29th, 2008 at 9:51 am
&lt;/em&gt;


From what information are you forming this opinion?

bit takes it that anyone who doesn’t think the way DRxJ thinks is, “…spoon feed what to believe.”
What exactly does DRxJ read when he wants to “…think on his own?”

There are reports that this guy’s problems were neither ideological nor “spiritual”, unless of course you take “spiritual” to mean the kind of spirits one gets from a bottle.



http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/29/friends-suspect-had-two-sides/

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Friends: Suspect had two sides
Court records detail troubled marriage, DUI

By Bob Fowler (Contact)
Tuesday, July 29, 2008




He&#039;s a hard-drinking, hate-filled loner with a string of five busted marriages. He&#039;s moody and prone to slip into weeks of dark despair.

He was a very normal child; a Boy Scout, intelligent and an accomplished guitarist with a heart of gold.

Those are the starkly contrasting views of the man who allegedly hid a shotgun in a guitar case Sunday morning, carried it past children waiting to perform in a church play and then opened fire.

Two people died and seven were injured.

Court records and interviews with a family member and friends give widely differing glimpses into the life of Jim David Adkisson.

And although the 58-year-old Adkisson&#039;s latest ex-wife, Liza Alexander, was a longtime member of Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, she wasn&#039;t present Sunday.

Congregant Barbara Kemper said Alexander hasn&#039;t been to the church in years.

Police think he wasn&#039;t targeting an individual, but that Adkisson was just planning to shoot indiscriminately into the crowded sanctuary of the liberal-leaning church until he was killed himself.

Adkisson &quot;disliked blacks, gays, anyone who was a different color or just different from him,&quot; said Carol Smallwood, who said she has known Adkisson for 25 years.

&quot;He needed help a long time ago, but he never got it,&quot; said Smallwood, who now lives in Alice, Texas.

She said she helped move Adkisson&#039;s possessions out of the home he shared with Alexander after Adkisson held a gun to Alexander&#039;s head.

On Feb. 22, 2000, Alexander stated that Adkisson outlined options as their marriage unraveled midway through its ninth year.

&quot;One of his options is to blow my brains out and then blow his own brains out,&quot; Alexander stated in an order of protection obtained March 1 of that year.

After that threat, &quot;I told him that I felt a strong need for seperation (sic) and he yelled, &#039;Well, then leave!&#039; &quot; Alexander wrote in the petition.

&quot;I am in fear for my life and what he might do,&quot; the petition stated.

Smallwood said that incident occurred after Adkisson had been on an all-night drinking binge.

Alexander, a longtime teacher at Claxton Elementary, filed for divorce on the same day she filed the order of protection.

The divorce petition stated that Adkisson &quot;drinks heavily every day and becomes belligerent, and makes threats.&quot;

Contacted Monday, Alexander declined to comment about her ex-spouse.

&quot;He always had the attitude the government was trying to get him,&quot; Smallwood said. &quot;He is a very intelligent man, but he couldn&#039;t get into the mainstream and hold a job.&quot;

At the time of his fifth divorce, records show Adkisson was working as a motorcycle mechanic at a business on Warehouse Road in Oak Ridge.

&quot;I think he has a heart of gold when he&#039;s good, but he has so much anger inside of him,&quot; Smallwood said. &quot;He didn&#039;t go into that church to harm any children, because he loved children.&quot;

After his last marriage fell apart, Adkisson &quot;got on a motorcycle and went west,&quot; Smallwood said. She said she got to know Adkisson through her now ex-husband because the two men rode motorcycles together.

She described Adkisson as a &quot;very accomplished guitarist who was just the life of the party.&quot;

&quot;But then those dark periods would hit, and you didn&#039;t want to be around him. They would go on for weeks. Everything was negative. You couldn&#039;t talk him out of it.&quot;

Dolores &quot;Dee&quot; Adkisson said she and the suspect are cousins, though she is much older and Jim David Adkisson called her his aunt.

&quot;He was always different,&quot; said Dee Adkisson, a Harriman resident. Jim and Carolyn Adkisson, now deceased, adopted Jim David Adkisson as a newborn, she said.

She said she thought a local doctor arranged that adoption.

&quot;He had problems through the years,&quot; she said. &quot;He just didn&#039;t seem to find his niche in life. He was always kind of a loner.&quot;

Dee Adkisson said as a youth, Jim David Adkisson disliked being forced by his parents to attend First Christian Church in Harriman. &quot;I know he needed the Lord,&quot; she said.

Harriman resident Orman &quot;Chip&quot; Dunn said he grew up with Adkisson. He called him &quot;a very normal child.&quot; Dunn said Adkisson was in Boy Scouts and graduated from Harriman High School in 1968.

&quot;My heart goes out to the victims,&quot; Dunn said, &quot;and my thoughts and prayers go out to David.&quot;

Dee Adkisson said Jim David Adkisson lived in Harriman until he was about 20 and entered his first marriage when he was about 19.

&quot;It was a very bad marriage that didn&#039;t last&quot; long, she said. After Jim David Adkisson left Harriman, &quot;he kind of roamed,&quot; she said. &quot;He lived in Middle Tennessee, he lived in Florida.&quot;

Military records show Adkisson was a private in the U.S. Army from 1974 to 1980 and served as a helicopter repairman for the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell.

He was on active duty from 1974 to 1977 and was in the Individual Ready Reserve until 1980.

He earned an expert badge for the M-16 rifle and hand grenades and an aircraft crewman badge. Citing privacy issues, the military wouldn&#039;t release Adkisson&#039;s discharge status.

A search of criminal records shows only one offense, on April 5, 2000, or just after his fifth marriage fell apart.

Adkisson was nabbed doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone on Charles Seivers Boulevard in Clinton and was charged with DUI, speeding and refusing to submit to a blood alcohol test.

He told the arresting officer he had &quot;three or four drinks&quot; and had been at a funeral, records show.

Adkisson pleaded guilty to speeding, and the DUI was reduced to reckless driving. He was placed on 6 months&#039; unsupervised probation.

&quot;We love David,&quot; Dee Adkisson said. &quot;I&#039;m just heartsick for everybody that&#039;s concerned.

&quot;My heart is just breaking for the church members, but it&#039;s also breaking for him.&quot;


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DRxJ Says:</p>
<p>Jim Adkisson, the man who shot two people to death in a Tennessee Unitarian church this week because he was angry at “liberals and gays,” had an array of right-wing books at his home.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is what can happen when an individual can’t or won’t think on his own, when he or she is spoon feed what to believe. To be honest, it was only a matter of time before someone snapped regarding liberals.<br />
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His unwarranted anger should have been directed towards the right, yet his zombified brain couldn’t comprehend that the left wants to help him, not ignore him.<br />
By the way, I DO NOT condone any violence towards any political party. Yet, the right’s legion does, for whatever reason (ie mAnn Coulter).<br />
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July 29th, 2008 at 9:51 am<br />
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<p>From what information are you forming this opinion?</p>
<p>bit takes it that anyone who doesn’t think the way DRxJ thinks is, “…spoon feed what to believe.”<br />
What exactly does DRxJ read when he wants to “…think on his own?”</p>
<p>There are reports that this guy’s problems were neither ideological nor “spiritual”, unless of course you take “spiritual” to mean the kind of spirits one gets from a bottle.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/29/friends-suspect-had-two-sides/" rel="nofollow">http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/29/friends-suspect-had-two-sides/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Friends: Suspect had two sides<br />
Court records detail troubled marriage, DUI</p>
<p>By Bob Fowler (Contact)<br />
Tuesday, July 29, 2008</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a hard-drinking, hate-filled loner with a string of five busted marriages. He&#8217;s moody and prone to slip into weeks of dark despair.</p>
<p>He was a very normal child; a Boy Scout, intelligent and an accomplished guitarist with a heart of gold.</p>
<p>Those are the starkly contrasting views of the man who allegedly hid a shotgun in a guitar case Sunday morning, carried it past children waiting to perform in a church play and then opened fire.</p>
<p>Two people died and seven were injured.</p>
<p>Court records and interviews with a family member and friends give widely differing glimpses into the life of Jim David Adkisson.</p>
<p>And although the 58-year-old Adkisson&#8217;s latest ex-wife, Liza Alexander, was a longtime member of Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, she wasn&#8217;t present Sunday.</p>
<p>Congregant Barbara Kemper said Alexander hasn&#8217;t been to the church in years.</p>
<p>Police think he wasn&#8217;t targeting an individual, but that Adkisson was just planning to shoot indiscriminately into the crowded sanctuary of the liberal-leaning church until he was killed himself.</p>
<p>Adkisson &#8220;disliked blacks, gays, anyone who was a different color or just different from him,&#8221; said Carol Smallwood, who said she has known Adkisson for 25 years.</p>
<p>&#8220;He needed help a long time ago, but he never got it,&#8221; said Smallwood, who now lives in Alice, Texas.</p>
<p>She said she helped move Adkisson&#8217;s possessions out of the home he shared with Alexander after Adkisson held a gun to Alexander&#8217;s head.</p>
<p>On Feb. 22, 2000, Alexander stated that Adkisson outlined options as their marriage unraveled midway through its ninth year.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of his options is to blow my brains out and then blow his own brains out,&#8221; Alexander stated in an order of protection obtained March 1 of that year.</p>
<p>After that threat, &#8220;I told him that I felt a strong need for seperation (sic) and he yelled, &#8216;Well, then leave!&#8217; &#8221; Alexander wrote in the petition.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am in fear for my life and what he might do,&#8221; the petition stated.</p>
<p>Smallwood said that incident occurred after Adkisson had been on an all-night drinking binge.</p>
<p>Alexander, a longtime teacher at Claxton Elementary, filed for divorce on the same day she filed the order of protection.</p>
<p>The divorce petition stated that Adkisson &#8220;drinks heavily every day and becomes belligerent, and makes threats.&#8221;</p>
<p>Contacted Monday, Alexander declined to comment about her ex-spouse.</p>
<p>&#8220;He always had the attitude the government was trying to get him,&#8221; Smallwood said. &#8220;He is a very intelligent man, but he couldn&#8217;t get into the mainstream and hold a job.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the time of his fifth divorce, records show Adkisson was working as a motorcycle mechanic at a business on Warehouse Road in Oak Ridge.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think he has a heart of gold when he&#8217;s good, but he has so much anger inside of him,&#8221; Smallwood said. &#8220;He didn&#8217;t go into that church to harm any children, because he loved children.&#8221;</p>
<p>After his last marriage fell apart, Adkisson &#8220;got on a motorcycle and went west,&#8221; Smallwood said. She said she got to know Adkisson through her now ex-husband because the two men rode motorcycles together.</p>
<p>She described Adkisson as a &#8220;very accomplished guitarist who was just the life of the party.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But then those dark periods would hit, and you didn&#8217;t want to be around him. They would go on for weeks. Everything was negative. You couldn&#8217;t talk him out of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dolores &#8220;Dee&#8221; Adkisson said she and the suspect are cousins, though she is much older and Jim David Adkisson called her his aunt.</p>
<p>&#8220;He was always different,&#8221; said Dee Adkisson, a Harriman resident. Jim and Carolyn Adkisson, now deceased, adopted Jim David Adkisson as a newborn, she said.</p>
<p>She said she thought a local doctor arranged that adoption.</p>
<p>&#8220;He had problems through the years,&#8221; she said. &#8220;He just didn&#8217;t seem to find his niche in life. He was always kind of a loner.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dee Adkisson said as a youth, Jim David Adkisson disliked being forced by his parents to attend First Christian Church in Harriman. &#8220;I know he needed the Lord,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Harriman resident Orman &#8220;Chip&#8221; Dunn said he grew up with Adkisson. He called him &#8220;a very normal child.&#8221; Dunn said Adkisson was in Boy Scouts and graduated from Harriman High School in 1968.</p>
<p>&#8220;My heart goes out to the victims,&#8221; Dunn said, &#8220;and my thoughts and prayers go out to David.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dee Adkisson said Jim David Adkisson lived in Harriman until he was about 20 and entered his first marriage when he was about 19.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was a very bad marriage that didn&#8217;t last&#8221; long, she said. After Jim David Adkisson left Harriman, &#8220;he kind of roamed,&#8221; she said. &#8220;He lived in Middle Tennessee, he lived in Florida.&#8221;</p>
<p>Military records show Adkisson was a private in the U.S. Army from 1974 to 1980 and served as a helicopter repairman for the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell.</p>
<p>He was on active duty from 1974 to 1977 and was in the Individual Ready Reserve until 1980.</p>
<p>He earned an expert badge for the M-16 rifle and hand grenades and an aircraft crewman badge. Citing privacy issues, the military wouldn&#8217;t release Adkisson&#8217;s discharge status.</p>
<p>A search of criminal records shows only one offense, on April 5, 2000, or just after his fifth marriage fell apart.</p>
<p>Adkisson was nabbed doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone on Charles Seivers Boulevard in Clinton and was charged with DUI, speeding and refusing to submit to a blood alcohol test.</p>
<p>He told the arresting officer he had &#8220;three or four drinks&#8221; and had been at a funeral, records show.</p>
<p>Adkisson pleaded guilty to speeding, and the DUI was reduced to reckless driving. He was placed on 6 months&#8217; unsupervised probation.</p>
<p>&#8220;We love David,&#8221; Dee Adkisson said. &#8220;I&#8217;m just heartsick for everybody that&#8217;s concerned.</p>
<p>&#8220;My heart is just breaking for the church members, but it&#8217;s also breaking for him.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;TeleMan Says:
Re: Polling
Another factor, I think, is caller ID on the home phones.&lt;/em&gt;

good point.

i don&#039;t have caller ID, and most calls get picked up...
sometimes i don&#039;t respond after the initial &quot;hello&quot; and that 2 second delay that indicates a robo-call... for fun...

but NO one has ever called me with a poll question... ever...

and these days i figure the NSA has gotten enough info that they know exactly how i would poll... 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>TeleMan Says:<br />
Re: Polling<br />
Another factor, I think, is caller ID on the home phones.</em></p>
<p>good point.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t have caller ID, and most calls get picked up&#8230;<br />
sometimes i don&#8217;t respond after the initial &#8220;hello&#8221; and that 2 second delay that indicates a robo-call&#8230; for fun&#8230;</p>
<p>but NO one has ever called me with a poll question&#8230; ever&#8230;</p>
<p>and these days i figure the NSA has gotten enough info that they know exactly how i would poll&#8230;<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British Petroleum&#039;s bottom line soared 27% in three short months to nearly $9.5 billion.  This comes atop ConocoPhillips 31% rise to $5.4 billion.  

Stay tuned for ExxonMobile&#039;s and Chevron&#039;s releases later this week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>British Petroleum&#8217;s bottom line soared 27% in three short months to nearly $9.5 billion.  This comes atop ConocoPhillips 31% rise to $5.4 billion.  </p>
<p>Stay tuned for ExxonMobile&#8217;s and Chevron&#8217;s releases later this week!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humm... TP? WHY is my post awaiting moderation? It hasn&#039;t derivates of @nal...</description>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righty demagogues = Charlie Manson(s)with megaphones

Adkisson = &quot;the family&quot;

The big inconsistency here is that while Adkisson will surely go to prison (and those damned liberals will show him mercy by not calling for the death penalty), his &quot;Charlies&quot; won&#039;t even stand trial for exhorting him to kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righty demagogues = Charlie Manson(s)with megaphones</p>
<p>Adkisson = &#8220;the family&#8221;</p>
<p>The big inconsistency here is that while Adkisson will surely go to prison (and those damned liberals will show him mercy by not calling for the death penalty), his &#8220;Charlies&#8221; won&#8217;t even stand trial for exhorting him to kill.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120384', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tbone</title>
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		<description>Fred: 
I see your point. If they are continually advocating physical harm towards people, then I may agree with you. After all, there are previous examples of media personalities motivating acts of violence (e.g. Rwanda). I don&#039;t listen to Limbaugh et al., so I don&#039;t know how rampant their advocacy of violence is. I certainly see some of the idiotic things they say, and I understand their power hungry agenda. I am just not sure that I am willing to say that their absurd, ridiculous statements make them culpable in this instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred:<br />
I see your point. If they are continually advocating physical harm towards people, then I may agree with you. After all, there are previous examples of media personalities motivating acts of violence (e.g. Rwanda). I don&#8217;t listen to Limbaugh et al., so I don&#8217;t know how rampant their advocacy of violence is. I certainly see some of the idiotic things they say, and I understand their power hungry agenda. I am just not sure that I am willing to say that their absurd, ridiculous statements make them culpable in this instance.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tbone Says: 
My point was simply that I don’t think that the right-wing noise machine bears any real responsibility here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I disagree. Maybe you missed the part where he has 12.5 captive listeners:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Sean Hannity 12.5 million listeners
“I’ll tell you who should be tortured and killed at Guantanamo: every filthy Democrat in the U.S. Congress.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Over the top hyperbole is when a guest on a show or you or I make such a statement.....can you really not see the difference or are you willing yourself to not see it?

This is an agenda driven by the limballs, et al who want to remain in power and are violent people.  

Please reflect on history, who has been assasinated in the US in the last century?  Any right wingers?  No, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK.  

The extreme right is in power now and they have no problem with taking people out to get power and keep it.....please pay attention.

Ok raygun was shot at but by a certified crazy man.  The above examples were concerted efforts by groups, no one person made those executions happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>tbone Says:<br />
My point was simply that I don’t think that the right-wing noise machine bears any real responsibility here.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree. Maybe you missed the part where he has 12.5 captive listeners:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sean Hannity 12.5 million listeners<br />
“I’ll tell you who should be tortured and killed at Guantanamo: every filthy Democrat in the U.S. Congress.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Over the top hyperbole is when a guest on a show or you or I make such a statement&#8230;..can you really not see the difference or are you willing yourself to not see it?</p>
<p>This is an agenda driven by the limballs, et al who want to remain in power and are violent people.  </p>
<p>Please reflect on history, who has been assasinated in the US in the last century?  Any right wingers?  No, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK.  </p>
<p>The extreme right is in power now and they have no problem with taking people out to get power and keep it&#8230;..please pay attention.</p>
<p>Ok raygun was shot at but by a certified crazy man.  The above examples were concerted efforts by groups, no one person made those executions happen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120244', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TeleMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Polling

Another factor, I think, is caller ID on the home phones.  I know I don&#039;t answer my landline if I don&#039;t recognize the calling number.  I figure if it&#039;s important they&#039;ll leave a message.

Are there any requirements for having the proper caller ID when pollsters are calling?</description>
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<p>Another factor, I think, is caller ID on the home phones.  I know I don&#8217;t answer my landline if I don&#8217;t recognize the calling number.  I figure if it&#8217;s important they&#8217;ll leave a message.</p>
<p>Are there any requirements for having the proper caller ID when pollsters are calling?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120228', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Rebel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#108 Exit Stage Left Says: 
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&lt;em&gt;Freedom Rebel Says:
I’m very skeptical of the polling figures. Who are they calling and what questions are they asking? The questions could be the problem and how they are worded.

I don’t believe the polling under any circumstances. The Obama candidacy has spurred millions of young people to register to vote. Many young people have only cell phones, therefore are not targeted by pollsters. In light of this, I find it doubtful these new voters, without a home, phone are ever polled. McCain has been polling higher amongst “likely voters”. I don’t see how first-time voters would be included in that group.
As alluded to by others, I fear this skewed polling is a ploy to make the theft of another election less of a shock to the masses. I don’t trust these thieving killers. I’m of the opinion they’ll do anything to stay in power.&lt;/em&gt;



I agree with you Exit, they would do anything at this point.  I can&#039;t remember which show I was watching where they were discussing the loaded questions that they are asking &quot;voters&quot;.  Anyways, they worded them in such a way that they were skewed towards McCain.    This is one of the reasons I have never paid much attention to those polls. I have learned to mistrust that because stats and polls can be manipulated too easily.

You are right, cell phones do play a big roll now.  If they text messaged the young voters, I bet the numbers would prove to be completely different.  The younger generation does not talk on the phone, even their cell phones, they text message everything.  Instant messaging on the computer is big with them also.  My daughter is a great example of both.  

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<p><em>Freedom Rebel Says:<br />
I’m very skeptical of the polling figures. Who are they calling and what questions are they asking? The questions could be the problem and how they are worded.</p>
<p>I don’t believe the polling under any circumstances. The Obama candidacy has spurred millions of young people to register to vote. Many young people have only cell phones, therefore are not targeted by pollsters. In light of this, I find it doubtful these new voters, without a home, phone are ever polled. McCain has been polling higher amongst “likely voters”. I don’t see how first-time voters would be included in that group.<br />
As alluded to by others, I fear this skewed polling is a ploy to make the theft of another election less of a shock to the masses. I don’t trust these thieving killers. I’m of the opinion they’ll do anything to stay in power.</em></p>
<p>I agree with you Exit, they would do anything at this point.  I can&#8217;t remember which show I was watching where they were discussing the loaded questions that they are asking &#8220;voters&#8221;.  Anyways, they worded them in such a way that they were skewed towards McCain.    This is one of the reasons I have never paid much attention to those polls. I have learned to mistrust that because stats and polls can be manipulated too easily.</p>
<p>You are right, cell phones do play a big roll now.  If they text messaged the young voters, I bet the numbers would prove to be completely different.  The younger generation does not talk on the phone, even their cell phones, they text message everything.  Instant messaging on the computer is big with them also.  My daughter is a great example of both.  </p>
<p>I hope you have a great day :)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120194', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tbone</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Fred, I hadn&#039;t heard him or any of the right-wingers say things quite that venomous. My guess is that tasteless statement is over the top hyperbole, but I can&#039;t speak for him and I am not trying defend him. My point was simply that I don&#039;t think that the right-wing noise machine bears any real responsibility here. If Edward Abbey were still alive, would he be responsible for any violence or property damage from actions by Earth First or PETA? I sure as hell don&#039;t think so.</description>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dr. Hussein Matt Says: 
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Jesus was a liberal.&lt;/em&gt;

And the right-wingers killed him too.</description>
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<p>Jesus was a liberal.</em></p>
<p>And the right-wingers killed him too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120164', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: celtic cynic</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is out Colorado way today for a fundraiser.

Why isn&#039;t he visiting the troops in hospitals or at their bases? He claims to be a super patriot.Is he as afraid of them as Dick Cheney?</description>
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<p>Why isn&#8217;t he visiting the troops in hospitals or at their bases? He claims to be a super patriot.Is he as afraid of them as Dick Cheney?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120140', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred Says
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And let&#039;s not forget Ann Coulter&#039;s regret that Timothy McVeigh didn&#039;t blow up the New York Times building.</description>
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<p>And let&#8217;s not forget Ann Coulter&#8217;s regret that Timothy McVeigh didn&#8217;t blow up the New York Times building.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120134', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oopsie...I should have read all the way through before I posted my take on the polls. Sorry for the redundancy :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oopsie&#8230;I should have read all the way through before I posted my take on the polls. Sorry for the redundancy :(<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Freedom Rebel Says: 
I’m very skeptical of the polling figures. Who are they calling and what questions are they asking? The questions could be the problem and how they are worded.&lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t believe the polling under any circumstances. The Obama candidacy has spurred millions of young people to register to vote. Many young people have only cell phones, therefore are not targeted by pollsters. In light of this, I find it doubtful these new voters, without a home, phone are &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; polled. McCain has been polling higher amongst &quot;likely voters&quot;. I don&#039;t see how first-time voters would be included in that group. 
As alluded to by others, I fear this skewed polling is a ploy to make the theft of another election less of a shock to the masses. I don&#039;t trust these thieving killers. I&#039;m of the opinion they&#039;ll do &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; to stay in power.</description>
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I’m very skeptical of the polling figures. Who are they calling and what questions are they asking? The questions could be the problem and how they are worded.</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the polling under any circumstances. The Obama candidacy has spurred millions of young people to register to vote. Many young people have only cell phones, therefore are not targeted by pollsters. In light of this, I find it doubtful these new voters, without a home, phone are <em>ever</em> polled. McCain has been polling higher amongst &#8220;likely voters&#8221;. I don&#8217;t see how first-time voters would be included in that group.<br />
As alluded to by others, I fear this skewed polling is a ploy to make the theft of another election less of a shock to the masses. I don&#8217;t trust these thieving killers. I&#8217;m of the opinion they&#8217;ll do <em>anything</em> to stay in power.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120104', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Rebel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#96 Shayne Says: 


&lt;em&gt;Well the pollsters don’t call cell phone numbers and many of the young, newly registerd, energized Obama voters don’t have land lines. Who sits home all day waiting for somebody to talk to willing to answer a long list of questions, the elderly.&lt;/em&gt;


Good Morning Shayne :)  That is a very good point.  My daughter and all of her friends only have cell phones, you are exactly right.  This is a very big part of the problem.  (My daughter is a registered voter also and she has never received a phone call asking her who she will vote for.)</description>
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<p><em>Well the pollsters don’t call cell phone numbers and many of the young, newly registerd, energized Obama voters don’t have land lines. Who sits home all day waiting for somebody to talk to willing to answer a long list of questions, the elderly.</em></p>
<p>Good Morning Shayne :)  That is a very good point.  My daughter and all of her friends only have cell phones, you are exactly right.  This is a very big part of the problem.  (My daughter is a registered voter also and she has never received a phone call asking her who she will vote for.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred Says
July 29th, 2008 at 10:13 am 

The national cbs news this morning shows mccain ahead of Obama by several percentage points among likely voters. I’m starting to get a gut feeling that things are not right with the poll reporting……how can this be? 
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Don&#039;t forget that only ONE poll shows McCain ahead -- and that&#039;s the most recent USA Today/Gallup poll.  The rest of the polls (Rasmussen, Gallup, Democracy Corps, Fox News, NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, Reuters/Zogby, Research 2000, Quinnipiac, Investor&#039;s Business Daily/TIPP, and Newsweek) all show Obama ahead of McCain in their latest results.

But ONE poll, regardless of which poll it is, is enough for the wingnuts to cling to and discredit all the others.</description>
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<p>The national cbs news this morning shows mccain ahead of Obama by several percentage points among likely voters. I’m starting to get a gut feeling that things are not right with the poll reporting……how can this be?<br />
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget that only ONE poll shows McCain ahead &#8212; and that&#8217;s the most recent USA Today/Gallup poll.  The rest of the polls (Rasmussen, Gallup, Democracy Corps, Fox News, NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, Reuters/Zogby, Research 2000, Quinnipiac, Investor&#8217;s Business Daily/TIPP, and Newsweek) all show Obama ahead of McCain in their latest results.</p>
<p>But ONE poll, regardless of which poll it is, is enough for the wingnuts to cling to and discredit all the others.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5120082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Frosty Cupcake</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And missmolly&#039;s post! And Patriot&#039;s!

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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tbone Says:
To my knowledge, the blowhard right-wingers have not advocated killing liberals&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 

I don&#039;t know what you read or listen to but here is just one example........how can you be that uninformed?



&lt;blockquote&gt;Sean Hannity 12.5 million listeners
“I’ll tell you who should be tortured and killed at Guantanamo: every filthy Democrat in the U.S. Congress.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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To my knowledge, the blowhard right-wingers have not advocated killing liberals</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you read or listen to but here is just one example&#8230;&#8230;..how can you be that uninformed?</p>
<blockquote><p>Sean Hannity 12.5 million listeners<br />
“I’ll tell you who should be tortured and killed at Guantanamo: every filthy Democrat in the U.S. Congress.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and missmolly too!

g&#039;day all...</description>
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