Toby Keith: ‘Black Society’ Thinks Obama ‘Talks, Acts and Carries Himself As A Caucasian’
Toby Keith: ‘Black Society’ Thinks Obama ‘Talks, Acts and Carries Himself As A Caucasian’
Country singer Toby Keith, who is on a media blitz promoting his pro-lynching movie, Beer For My Horses, said during a radio interview with Glenn Beck today that he believes “black society” will pull for Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), even though “they think in the back of their mind that…he talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian”:
KEITH: I think that the black people would say he don’t talk, act, or carry himself as a black person.
BECK: What does that even mean?
KEITH: I don’t know what that means, but I’m saying that’s what I think that they would say. Even though the black society would pull for him, I still think that they think in the back of their mind that the only reason that he is in is because he talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian.
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Beck responded by simply saying “Oh.” But it’s an attack line Beck himself has used in the past, claiming that Obama is “colorless” and “might as well be white.”
Other conservative media hosts have joined Beck in employing this rhetoric. The day after Beck’s “colorless” remark, Rush Limbaugh said that Obama should “renounce” his race and just “become white.” Extreme conservative talker Melanie Morgan has called Obama a “halfrican” who “is not allowed to wear the African-American badge because his family are not the descendants of slaves.” Tucker Carlson wondered about Obama, “Is he black enough?”
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And how exactly would Toby Keith know what "black society" thinks?
July 30th, 2008 at 6:32 pmSo the Dixie Chicks get hounded for their comments about Bush, but the GOP's own Toby Keith can be a racist without consequence. Would this be another example of a liberal media bias?
Toby Keith sings to the Low Information Voters. They are his base. "We play both kinds of music here: country and western."
July 30th, 2008 at 6:34 pmToby Keith acts and carries himself as a dimwitted moron. As a caucasian, I have noticed this.
The Right gets a wadded up when liberal hollywood types and celebrities get into politics. Why is this guy and Ted Nugent ok then?
July 30th, 2008 at 6:35 pmWhat school or training facility do all of these people go to in order to learn how to pour gasoline on a fire?
July 30th, 2008 at 6:35 pmrtwl nails it exactly.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:36 pmtoby keith's probably the whitest person in oklahoma, after Garth Brooks and Jim Inhoff.
Glenn Beck and Toby Keith. I can't think of two people whose opinions I care less about.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:36 pmWhat is the deal with that lame ass guitar?
July 30th, 2008 at 6:37 pmOnly in an irony-blind discourse could two white guys opine that Obama is not black enough...
July 30th, 2008 at 6:38 pmI guess we have two of the more irrelevant people together here, the beckster and the low IQer, Toby.
I have listened to Toby try to talk, but all that comes out of his mouth is proof he is either one dumb Mo'Fo or a parody of much of the trailer trash that listens to his crap and watch WW Resslin'.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:39 pmToby, After he gets his horse drunk he whispers in her ear.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:39 pmJebus, what a friggin' moron.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:40 pmHey! I know!!!
Ol' Toby thinks that the black folk think Obama is white because he doesn't walk into a restaurant and scream, "HEY, M-FER - I WANT MORE ICED TEA!!!!!"
July 30th, 2008 at 6:42 pmKEITH: I think that the black people would say he don’t talk, act, or carry himself as a black person.
BECK: What does that even mean?
KEITH: I don’t know what that means...
- - Color me surprised.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:44 pmAnd is this the same Toby Keith slamming the Dixie Chicks for telling the truth ? Gee wonder how many former fans of DC feel stupid now that the DC's were right on.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:44 pmToby Keith carries himself as a redneck bigot.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:45 pmSure wondered when the black issue would surface, doesn't matter that Obama is heads above in intelligence than the loser mccain but darn it all he is black. Well, let the rednecks vote for mcloser watch their children be drafted because mccain's 100 year war will need lots of cannon fodder.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:46 pmkasinca Says:
Toby Keith carries himself as a redneck bigot.
Unfortunately, that is a LARGE demographic in the US. Just look at all the people that listen to rush and watch Faux.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:53 pmDoes this dude tuck his thumbs in when he is wearing the jeans with the big belt buckle?
July 30th, 2008 at 6:54 pmCount down to somebody yelping that satire of "country" equals racism....
July 30th, 2008 at 6:55 pmdbadass Says:
What is the deal with that lame ass guitar?
Toby Keith is an endorsee of Takamine guitars. A very good company who made an awful choice in allowing their instruments to be used by him.
Is the color treatment of that guitar (the flag) the same symbolism as a flag pin? I guess Toby is patriotic, huh? I mean, look at the size of that flag pin he wears around his neck. A true American zero - um, hero.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:55 pmI knew there was a good reason why I don't like country music
July 30th, 2008 at 6:56 pmHussein McCain Says:
Toby, After he gets his horse drunk he whispers in her ear.
Don't you mean he whispers in her rear? That sounds about right.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pmYet more proof that the GOP is the same as KKK.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pmOnce again the under informed and not very intelligent confuse color with culture.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pmStratRat:
July 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pmHave you ever had the opportunity to do the Martin factory tour? I respect your knowledge of the instrument. I myself am not musically gifted
Tubby Keith is just chasin' the $$$$$. Hillbillys love them some C&W. The Flag Geetar shows where he pandering the Bushco lemmings. When Sen.Obama becomes President, he will prolly become a folk singer( I hear you my downtrodden brothers) Hell, he wrote a song about smokin'weed with Willie. ;)
July 30th, 2008 at 7:02 pmdbadass Says:
StratRat:
Have you ever had the opportunity to do the Martin factory tour? I respect your knowledge of the instrument. I myself am not musically gifted
I have been to Nazareth, PA and walked through the factory. Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) was sitting in the chair right next to me, and I was afraid to say hi.
I have also walked through the Fender factory in Ensenada, BC Mexico - I live in San Diego. Very cool. Smelled like wood all over the place. Couldn't figure out why.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:06 pmSo, JIm Wilke, nothing to say about Toby Keith's asinine comment? ...Y'know... "on topic"?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:07 pmHi Jim Wilke.
What do you think of this fellow? What sort of music do you enjoy? Do you agree that the guitar is a bit much?
best-
July 30th, 2008 at 7:07 pmFull quote, arsehole:
"It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It’s about America. I have become a symbol of the possibility of America."
July 30th, 2008 at 7:08 pmFlag the troll
July 30th, 2008 at 7:09 pmWho else knows more about "black society" than white, inbred lowlife, W lackey, Toby Keith?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:09 pmI guess all the steamrollers used to smush the Dixie Chick's CD's belong to the redneck cracker population.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:10 pmjimmy,
racist much?
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hmmm,
now how did
that get there?
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good luck.
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July 30th, 2008 at 7:12 pmFlag the troll
July 30th, 2008 at 7:12 pmJim Wilke Says:
hey, Ralph, what office is Toby Keith running for? Has he even endorsed anyone?
He endorses the low IQ, red neck contingent of your crowd Jimbo - In other words, the GOP. When did you stop beating your wife, Jim?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pmToby Keith went hip hop, who'd have thunk it?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pmStratRat:
July 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pmWhen was that? Back in the day they processed their own woods there. I am not sure how the abalone was handled but I assume it came in processed already. The craftsmanship was insane and if you climbed around in the dumpster you could fill your car with chunks of ebony, rosewood, mahogany, etc. It was cool. With increased awareness of deforestation that all changed and I am glad. I hope they get all their stuff from farms now but I haven't been in Nazareth nor Martin in many years
I. B. Leary Says:
Are you related to Dennis Leary, of "rescue Me" and Daily Show fame?
July 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pmdbadass Says:
StratRat:
When was that? Back in the day they processed their own woods there. I am not sure how the abalone was handled but I assume it came in processed already.
Probably 1998-1999. The wood-blanks were stacked out back, and the finished instruments stacked out front. The abalone came from 2-3 companies, mainly in SE Asia and Mexico. The custom shop guitars are hand made start to finish - even to the point of selecting the 'pieces' of abolone which make up the neck and headstock.
Martin - and Gibson - both have their own farms in Montana. Very green, and very efficient. They also can better quality control their wood stock as a result.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:18 pmThe belt buckle is a tombstone for a dead d1ck.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:19 pmSo I guess Toby Keith doesn't count black people as part of his fan base? Hmmm, I wonder why? Seems if he wasn't spitting at them, maybe he could sell more records.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:22 pmAren't both Beck and Keith of the right age to be deployed to Afghanistan?
Chicken Hawks!
July 30th, 2008 at 7:23 pmStratRat:
AT the risk of offending others with this OT stuff, Montana's latitude does not support the woods I saw there in the late 70's which were all tropical and subtropical with the exception of what I think was poplar. Have the changed the materials in response and if so has it effected what I learned as a Martin guitar? Please realize that you are talking to a natural science guy and not a musician
best-
July 30th, 2008 at 7:25 pmWhy didn't Keith just come out and say what he meant. He just called Obama an Uncle Tom. What a low-life Keith is turning out to be. He is one offensive dude.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI'm guessing the photographer was standing behind the chicken wire, with the band.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pmToby Cracker
July 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pmdbadass Says:
StratRat:
AT the risk of offending others with this OT stuff, Montana’s latitude does not support the woods I saw there in the late 70’s which were all tropical and subtropical with the exception of what I think was poplar.
The different woods impart specific tones and vibrate at useful frequencies. Maple, Ash, Mahogany, Teakwood, Rosewood, koa, Spruce, etc...are used in various combinations (sides, backs, tops, necks, fretboards).
Nowadays, most Martins are made with either Maple or Mahogany sides and backs, with solid spruce tops. That combination seem to be quite popular and toneful. All maple gives a brighter sound and the darker woods (mahogany, koa, rosewood) are best at lower register tones (bass notes).
Also, the tropical woods are denser (harder to shape), wetter (harder to dry), more expensive (transportation), heavier (comfort). Plus wood like koa (from hawaii) and bubinga (from africa) is particularly rare now, so they are not used in production pieces much any longer.
The custom shop guitars can include any or all of the above, depending on the consumers choice and pocketbook.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:38 pmSay, Jim, when did I say Toby Keith was running for elected office? I don't recall saying that.
When did TP restrict its forum to commentin g on "people running for office"?
Jim, you really ARE silly.
but we love you for it.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:41 pmJim, you really ARE silly.
but we love you for it.
Well, at least we tolerate him. Hi Jim!
July 30th, 2008 at 7:43 pmStratRat:
July 30th, 2008 at 7:44 pmI grew up sort of near there and one of the reasons I was in the dumpster was to get raw materials for art students at a nearby college. At the risk of regional jingoism I must say that the PA dutch folks who staffed that place back then made for a special magic. The way I remember it was that everything was made the way you describe the custom shop.
Alrighty then....I'm off to see the wizard - and don't think I'm kidding.
Remember: You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish...
July 30th, 2008 at 7:45 pmThe way I remember it was that everything was made the way you describe the custom shop
The care they put into every inch is astounding. I saw them throw away what I thought were perfectly good pieces, but the tech held it up and showed me where the 'cracks' and 'spots' were. I couldn't see them even as he was pointing to them. Their eyesight must be incredible. Craftsmen and women, to be sure...All made in America. God Bless...
See ya on the flip side.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:48 pmI am embarrased to be of the same race as this country hick.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pmWhy in the world are people so obsessed with Obama's color? And why is it that when he carries himself as an intelligent, well-mannered, well-educated person, he's accused of acting "white"? Are these characteristics exclusive to whites? That's rather insulting.
i guess if you're black (even partially black), you're expected to be BLACK 24/7, whatever that means? Why is there no such standard for whites?
I won't even get into the idiocy of Toby Keith presuming to speak for "black society".
July 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pmJim Wilke Says
After nearly eight years of the W...anyone who is professional, much less, presidential will make the reichwingers think that they are arrogant. My God, you have had a man acting like a junior high cheerleader in the WH.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:54 pmSo, Mr. Whitebread country boy thinks he talks for black Americans. How arrogant can you get.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:56 pmCount your blessings
July 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pmToby,
You can't speak for black Americans with a "Ni*ger Hatin' Hat" on your stupid racist head!
Phuck you Toby and lynch mob you rode in with!!
July 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pmToday’s Republican Party is a freak show of hate-filled sociopaths, immoral religious and social extremists, insecure, overcompensating, irresponsible, dangerously incompetent, war-mongering imperialists and greedy, exploitive corporate anarchists. Just look at the odious and inadequate carnival barkers and snake oil salesmen the Republican Party had competing to be their presidential candidate. Republicans tacitly welcome homophobes, misogynists, racists, anti-Semites and messianic fundamentalist nut jobs into their party and inherently incorporate their values into their moral fabric and political objectives. Being a child of poverty raised with four younger siblings by a single mom, I’ve never agreed with social conservatives, but compared to Bush’s Republican Party, Eisenhower’s Republican Party was a liberal bastion of social and economic enlightenment and pluralism. Defending the actions of today’s Republican Party is advocating ignorance and evil over common sense and common decency. It would be hard to imagine that any presidential administration, Republican or Democrat, could have been as malicious, polarizing, undemocratic, corrupt or destructively pernicious to the founding causes and defining principles of our republic than George W. Bush’s. I am surprised that I am ashamed for the “good” Republicans, only because I could not have possibly imagined how “bad” some Americans were capable of being.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:05 pmJim Wilke Says:
This snippet came from the Washington Post. The “arrogant much?” comment was mine and I am not sure how it got inserted into the middle of the text.
A resident troll showing that he is a "low information" voter. This was an out of context quote by Obama. The whole quote was exactly the opposite. It's intent was not "look at me arrogance", it was referring to our country. Here's the actual quote that was bastardized.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/30/iwashington-posti-fans-ou_n_115861.html
July 30th, 2008 at 8:06 pm61:
He shouldn't have just put his finger in the flame...
Damn... Shouldn't have you added an adult warning label on that?
July 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pmHi Jim!
July 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pmmissmolly, if one were to juxtapose Obama and Toby Keith, one could be excused for thinking that well-mannered intelligence was exclusive to blacks.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:08 pmlet's put this in perspective - not even beck knows wtf this good ole boy is talking about - in fact he admitted that he himself didn't even know what he meant after beck asked him "what does that even mean?" - i didn't think that this level of retardedness existed!!
July 30th, 2008 at 8:09 pmZERO plus ZERO still equals Z E R O !!!
As they both are.....zeros...
July 30th, 2008 at 8:10 pmHow dumb does Tobey Keith have to be to make a comment so absurd that even Beck tries to distance himself from it. You don't have to be stupid to be a right winger, well yes maybe you do.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:18 pmMay I ask CNN management:
July 30th, 2008 at 8:20 pmWhat possibly viewers can benefit from such nonsense and silly talk on a prime time tv show?
Jim Wilke Says:
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Anyone who wears a cowboy hat hates, ummm, is racist? Nicely done.
Not everyone Jim, my gay friend, only those not in The Village People!!
July 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pmShayne, I don't think you have to be stupid to be a right-winger.
I think you DO have to be stupid to REMAIN one for very long.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pmThen there's still hope we can get your vile lies removed, Winkie.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:48 pmIf you are thinking about buying a Ford just remembers who does some of their commercials.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:49 pmSPOT ON OSAGE !!!!!!! (at 64)
All I can add is that the days of "father knows best" are gone and buried.
It's inconceivable that, supposedly, intelligent people STILL cling to a hollywood version of what an american should look and act like six decades down the road.
Besides, don't conservatives HATE everything that hollywood stands for?
Ooops, my bad. They liked the musicals..... ya know.... ( the "wide stance" ones at least )
July 30th, 2008 at 8:49 pmJim Wilke Says:
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Looks like Dixie’s remark was removed.
LIAR!
July 30th, 2008 at 8:57 pmSo which is it? Not black enough, or too black? Can anyone imagine this discussion about McCain? "I like what he says but he's just not white enough for me."
Of course we could end these sophomoric discussions if we just stuck with the issues but that's not likely to happen anytime soon.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 30th, 2008 at 9:03 pmdixie blood, Winkie is so addicted to lying if he doesn't have one available he'll just make one up.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:03 pmIt looks like dim jim agrees with toby's racist beliefs. Of course jim agrees with toby, dim jim is a republican. Maybe dim jim can explain why anyone would name their kid toby? why not just name him doofus and be done with it?
July 30th, 2008 at 9:05 pmre 80:
yeah, not black enough, too black: not presidential material, too presidential, too eloquent, won't be able to hold his own in a town hall meeting with grampa simpson, won't go overseas, goes overseas, Can't bowl, plays basketball too good....the list just keeps growing.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:08 pmShayne Says:
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Then there’s still hope we can get your vile lies removed, Winkie.
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July 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Of course we could end these sophomoric discussions if we just stuck with the issues but that’s not likely to happen anytime soon.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 30th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Just how the hell would Mr. Kill All Animals know anything about what any black American thinks?
July 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pmThis goes well with the new McCain campaign slogan
July 30th, 2008 at 9:24 pm"Vote for me I am white"
I for one am looking forward to MC Toby Keith's Hip Hop release dropping sometime after 1/20/09.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:27 pm85
July 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pmThe post is about cracker #1
Making a statement so incredibly tone deaf in its racism that cracker #2 had nothing to say about it.
This is the comedy short between feature films. The trolls just add more comic relief.
Toby Who?
July 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pmKeith reminds me of the white cops on Sanford and Son,
July 30th, 2008 at 9:35 pmignorant without knowing it. Wonder if he's had any hammerhocks and black eyed rice lately? (Swaney)
tony and lido
Does anyone else see the humor in this redneck playing a flag wrapped Japanese guitar? Bet he wears a Mexican made US flag pin too when not in his music star costume. Go USA!!!
This crooning Cracker gives white folks a bad name. Who with more than half a brain gives a rats arse what he says.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pmKEITH: I think that the black people would say he don’t talk, act, or carry himself as a black person.
BECK: What does that even mean?
KEITH: I don’t know what that means, but I’m saying that’s what I think that they would say.
1. "Don't"? It's "doesn't," you country hick.
2. As for your second statement...damn, you are one ignorant fool.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:45 pmOMG, Toby Keith and Glenn Beck together.
July 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pmHow can anyone watch such horror and not be moved to gouge their eyes out with a claw hammer?
Mycelium Says:
Does anyone else see the humor in this redneck playing a flag wrapped Japanese guitar? Bet he wears a Mexican made US flag pin too when not in his music star costume. Go USA!!!
July 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
That's flag desecration. Uh huh. Oh yeah.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:05 pmToby and Becky. Not exactly a meeting of the minds there!
July 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pmKEITH: I think that the black people would say he don’t talk, act, or carry himself as a black person.
BECK: What does that even mean?
KEITH: I don’t know what that means,...
Should have left it at that, Toby. That's quite sufficient 'explanation'.
... but I’m saying that’s what I think that they would say....
"... even though I'm a redneck azo and not black at all."
... Even though the black society would pull for him, I still think that they think in the back of their mind that the only reason that he is in is because he talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian.
"... meaning, he's no capper or gansta rapper or Stepin Fetchit.... You, know, not one of those...."
But the key question is: "Is Barack Obama 'presumptuous'"? That's what inquiring minds want to know....
Cheers,
July 30th, 2008 at 10:15 pmOne could only imagine what Rush and his ilk would say if Obama said anything or acted in any way that they sterotype as black. ("Gansta rappers" come to mind.) Heck...they even try to use Obamas love of basketball as proof that he's a n*gger. Redneck fodder.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:44 pmKeith: "that’s what I think that they would say[...]I still think that they think"
Translation: I like the sound of my voice babbling, projecting stupid "opinions" whose meaning I am not quite sure of.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:58 pmAll of this is just another tactic republicans use to suppress voter turnout of selected groups. They think that if they can raise enough uncertainty over whether black america thinks Obama is "black enough", that black americans will become discouraged and sit out the election. Thus saving McCain, and alot of other worried down-ticket republicans from increased black american turnout this cycle. This thought pattern shows a fundamental misunderstanding of black culture. There is no hegemony on thought in the black community and very few black americans are 100% black. In the 18th and 19th centuries, one drop of "black blood" was enough for one to be considered black so I doubt few black americans will begrudge Obama being only 50% black. The conservative pundits you've mentioned can opin all they want about this "issue", I personally don't know a single black american who watches or listens to their programs. They are just preaching to the choir.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:58 pmThese people are truly ignorant & unworthy of being reported on. Beck certainly included. White people telling black people they aren't black enough? Idiots.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:16 pmCrucking Fakker.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:21 pm"Beer For My Horses"
Do you think Cindy McCain is behind this effort to intoxicate horseflesh?
It wasn't enough to have them just hauling it around in wagons, now they want to turn the poor beasts into customers.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:28 pmRACISTS!!!!
Wow, please tell me, how are"black people" supposed to act, or talk?!?!
A Halfrican!?! That crazy B¡tch has got to be kidding me? So only the Africans whose ancestors were stolen from their homes, shipped across the ocean and sold to OUR lazy, white, racist ancestors, can call themselves African American?!?!
The ruling class of this country built their wealth and legacy with the blood of innocents, and let's not (or let's DO) mention the genocide of upwards of 100 million (100,000,000) indigenous people who were here first on this continent, by our earlier ancestors, the Europeans.
These people are FCkD in the head, divisive, racists.
Makes me sick thinking about REAL American history, and the atrocities we have committed and continue to do to this day. If it's not the Iraqis, it was the Vietnamese, the Koreans, the Nicaraguans, the Philipinos, the Mexicans, Muslims, the list is long and not white.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:40 pmI still think the guitar is a little much...
July 30th, 2008 at 11:44 pmSo if blacks use "ebonics" they get crap, if they use proper English they get crap.
What do they have to do to be accepted by white azzwholes?
July 30th, 2008 at 11:45 pmIsn't this the guy who wanted to put a boot up someone's ass? bush must love this guy!
July 30th, 2008 at 11:46 pmI was in a guitar shop in Oceanside CA, and they had these Strats that were all worn out looking, and I commented on how I would like mine to get that way from playing it. The guy said they were brand new, called "relics", and were purposely sanded, and messed up, to look that way. I thought it was dumb.
Kinda like buying jeans with holes already in them.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:51 pmAre their actually "chicks" that dig "country" guys? I would particularly be interested in input on this concept from the ladies.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:56 pmUntil Toby Keith opened his mouth and proved himself an idiot, I thought he was just a stupid country and western singer. But now I know that he has some problems he needs to work through like learning not to speak for a group of people he knows absolutely nothing about. For any stupid so called star to pretend that he knows what black or white people are thinking is beyond ignorant, it's just plain dumb.
I think Toby needs to stick to what he knows and that is music. I don't think he needs to be talking about politics at all, his foot kind of gets in his mouth. I'd like to put my foot in the other ends of his anatomy opposite his mouth. The place where all of that shlt comes out when he eats it. Although not many blacks listen to his music, some do and I'm sure this stupid statement offended them. I myself had always given him respect an an artist, but he's lost that forever. As for his azz buddy Glen Beck, he's a nazi from way back and a charter member of his local K K K. I'm sure he'd like to wear his sheet and hood on TV but CNN asked him to wear a suit instead. They do let him and Wolf Blitzer and the others hold rallies in the parking lot when they feel like burning a cross.
July 30th, 2008 at 11:58 pmI don't think there are any chicks in country music land, just cowgirls.
I live amongst, and work with, ranchers, cowboys, and cowgirls.
They tend to be hard working, decent folks. They love country music of an older, more civilized style, and are plainly disdainful of what they call "modern country" and it's emphasis on drunken debauchery.
The "cowboys" Toby Keith caters to have little knowledge of cattle, horses, or the concept of an honest days hard work.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:08 amThey ride around in large, glitzed out pickup trucks, drink a lot, swear a lot, and are generally common bullies and skanks.
Hi Jim.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:13 amWhat is your major malfunction?
i don't understand what all the fuss is about.....
obama is 1/2 white (kansas, in fact, and oklahoma is near kansas, in fact).
and it's not as if toby said anything outrageous.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:13 am.. and, to all the lovely sun-kissed bonafide cowgirls out there, please respond to dbadass' query...
July 31st, 2008 at 12:15 amNevar:
July 31st, 2008 at 12:15 amSo what's the deal with cowgirls? I am sure I would enjoy many of them what with them being girls and all but still we don't have any of them round these parts...
let's just ask ourselves: might black people see obama as more white?
is this such an outrageous thought? or is there some validity or truth to it?
i don't agree with keith, i just want to know what people think.....
funny that a white website would rush to the defense of blacks, and yet have some of its members say things like "what does keith know about black people?"
well, what do thinkprogress members know about black people?
how many black friends do y'all have? any?
serious. any?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:17 amWhat do you know, darladooner?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:18 amYou live in the Big Apple...
Do you have the pink cowboy hat with a sequined hat band and pheasant feathers that you wear to the bar on Country Night?
What is Black enough for this hick? Steppin Fetchit?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:19 amcan i be reverse-racists?
what the hell do thinkprogress members know about 'black experience'?
how many black members does thinkprogress have?
and how many of those members are really black? and by really black, i mean.....do you live in the ghetto, or are you just talking sh*t?
i want to know.
and this is from a black woman, who def does not live in the ghetto.
but i am super liberal, lower middle class, well educated, and urban.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:19 amDo you have the pink cowboy hat with a sequined hat band and pheasant feathers that you wear to the bar on Country Night?
you got something against this black butch? i love my feathers, sugar!
July 31st, 2008 at 12:20 amAh Christ I already had to do this as to marine biology. Okay shall we start at the beginning? It's late might it just be okay to note that I was in a way mixed race teen. The only kids that didn't fit in were those weird south Philly Italians...
July 31st, 2008 at 12:22 amdbadass... If you have hundreds of acres of well fenced rangeland, at least 4 horses, love animals (especially Australian heelers) and can simply say yes or no, you can make it with a cowgirl. It doesn't matter what you look like, as long as you look good on a horse.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:25 amoops lots of typos. Still why do I even have to prove darladooner wrong? There really was a wrong side of the tracks back in those days. It has been gentrified since then
July 31st, 2008 at 12:26 amdarladooner Says:
...funny that a white website would rush to the defense of blacks, and yet have some of its members say things like “what does keith know about black people?”
A "white" website??? WTF!
July 31st, 2008 at 12:27 amI love feathers too, darladear, I neatly slice them in half and tie them to the south end of my arrows. I have a whole bunch hanging from my shield, and I even have one stuck in my braid.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:32 amI have absolutely nothing against you personally.
Do you have nice hair?
;)
Nevar,
July 31st, 2008 at 12:34 amThat's sounds like way too much work. How about urban cowgirls? I don't know any places that have one of those stupid mechanical bulls but there must be one somewhere around here...
Wow. Until darladooner showed up, I thought Toby Keith had bested all competition for stupidest statement posted on TP today.
Toby didn't know what he was up against, did he, darladooner?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:37 amdarladooner Says:
can i be reverse-racists?
what the hell do thinkprogress members know about ‘black experience’?
Not much. But then we don't presume to talk for African Americans saying that they feel or think a certain way, which is what Keith did. On the other hand, he has done plenty in his career to show that he is a racist piece of $hit. So he is even more presumptuous to try to speak for AA's.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:37 amThe mechanical bulls are a thing of the past, there were too many broken arms, legs, and necks. Seriously.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:39 amUrban country only requires the proper attire.
Jeans, boots, feathers, spangles, exposed cleavage, etc...
That guitar remains ridiculous...
July 31st, 2008 at 12:40 am"But then we don’t presume to talk for African Americans saying that they feel or think a certain way, which is what Keith did"
do you have to be an african-american to know what one thinks?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:42 amare whites so afraid of the subject of race that they simply condemn its every disagreeable manifestation? rather than confront them head on?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:43 amconfront who head on? I really am not comfortable head butting my nonwhite friends when they open their doors to welcome me and my children into their homes
July 31st, 2008 at 12:45 amNevar: The exposed cleavage part sounds okay so long as those exposing it made their own decision to do so. Now as to the spangles and feathers....
July 31st, 2008 at 12:48 am"do you have to be an african-american to know what one thinks?"
Before you can understand the dolphin you must think like the dolphin eh Ace?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:51 amthere's a huge difference between, on the one hand, a dolphin and a human, and on the other, a white human and a black human.
as obama's existence has shown, you can be both black and white.
got it?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:54 amdarladooner: "...rather than confront them head on?"
I am faced with the issue of race every day, daladearie.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:56 amI live in a multi-racial community, and I am a distinct minority.
I do not confront race. I ignore it. I respect the cultures of the two distinct racial ethnicities of my neighbors and co-workers, Hispanic and Native American.
A couple of weeks ago I boarded a plane with over 100 other wildland firefighters on our way to California. I was the only Caucasian aboard other than the flight attendants and the co-pilot.(The pilot was African American.)
It has been my lifelong experience with the issue of race that only the people who wish to antagonize, exploit and belittle those of another race or culture are the ones filled with animosity, hatred, and intolerance.
Easy for me to say, you may rejoinder, my not having experienced a lifetime of prejudice.
But I'm learning all about it now!
Hugs...
dbadass: confront the fears head on, not black people head on. though that would probably be nice, too, just in a peaceful manner.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:56 amI do not confront race. I ignore it.
you ignore race?
ok.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:57 amwhy would I have any fears to confront?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:58 amSure the cetacean has a supralimbic lobe for one
July 31st, 2008 at 1:00 amg'night, dbadass.
Stick with the mermaids.
;)
G'night darla, it was good to banter with you again.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:00 amPeace
Take care Nevar. Stay safe and rejoice in your sense of wonder.
best-
July 31st, 2008 at 1:01 amdarladooner Says:
I do not confront race. I ignore it.
you ignore race?
ok.
LOL I reread my post, and was certain you would pounce on that one.
Poor phrasing, I agree.
The word "confront" is what I object to. Confrontation leads to conflict.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:06 amLet me say that I face race. I acknowledge it, and, as I said in the words immediately following "I ignore it.", I respect those cultures, and seek to learn and understand them.
May sweet feathery dreams caress thee tonight.
Willie Nelson is actually a friend of this guy?
WOW
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July 31st, 2008 at 1:09 am.
Spoken so well by a well informed WHITE man, about what the black 'society' thinks...
To Toby, does America come in black and white? What does that concept propose for the future of society? Does it perpetuate the concept through it's implied acceptance as a normal condition of the Nation... always racially divided? And Toby doesn't feed into this projection how?
I know, Toby will claim he 'has black friends'. I wonder they disagree?
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July 31st, 2008 at 6:50 amwijg Says:
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darladooner Says:
…funny that a white website would rush to the defense of blacks, and yet have some of its members say things like “what does keith know about black people?”
A “white” website??? WTF!
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July 31st, 2008 at 8:56 am
"Hey, look at me, I'm writing Country Music songs:
'I'm ignorant and white'"
---Bobcat Goldthwait
July 31st, 2008 at 9:57 amdarladooner Says
July 31st, 2008 at 12:17 am
funny that a white website would rush to the defense of blacks, and yet have some of its members say things like “what does keith know about black people?”
well, what do thinkprogress members know about black people?
how many black friends do y’all have? any?
serious. any?
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Let's dissect this somewhat bizarre post.
First, what makes you think that ThinkProgress is a "white" website? I look at the people who run the site and I see a rather racially diverse bunch: http://thinkprogress.org/about/
Second, it's not that we believe that a white person cannot know anything about people of another race, it's that when we see a person treat all members of a different race as a monolithic group, we see that person proudly displaying their ignorance. Black people, like white people (or any other race of people), are individuals and think independently.
I have never revealed my own race on this site, and I'm not about to now. But I will say that I look through my circle of closest friends and they are black, white, Asian, and biracial. They are also Christian, Muslim, agnostic, and atheist. They are my friends for a variety of reasons -- including their intelligence, their compassion, their shared values with me, and that we all have a lot in common. Such as that we pretty much all think Toby Keith should keep his mouth shut on subjects of which he knows nothing.
July 31st, 2008 at 10:06 am"I'm IGNORANT and white..."
--Toby Keith, Country Music "songwriter", gayboy who likes boots in his azz, 'cause it't the American way!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 10:42 amToby obviously knows what he is talking about since his many rich rapper friends in the music biz are the standard of black society. (sarcasm off)
July 31st, 2008 at 12:41 pmHEY TOBY!!!
SHUT UP AND SING!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 12:41 pmI've always lived in the South and have learned to tolerate, and often really like, a lot of Country music. When Toby Keith is singing about man/woman relationships, he can be funny, tender, and quite moving, depending on the song. It's only when he gets political that he sucks, spouting jingoistic nonsense.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:15 pmI suspect most Country records are bought by women. Country songs about women are almost never about promiscuity or love-'em-and leave-'em, like a lot of hip-hop and rock songs are. They are quite often about how one man loves one woman, and will never mistreat her or leave her. Wishful thinking? Maybe, but listen to Country radio one afternoon and you'll see what I mean.
That said, Toby Keith is still a jerk.
WTF does this fool really know about what black people think? He may be a decent country singer, but he really sucks when it comes to political views and critical thinking. Hey Toby, just saying something doesn't making it true moron.
July 31st, 2008 at 6:00 pmHow very white of Toby. Time to do the dozens my friend, maybe with Cornell West. Shoot, Leeza Rice could dice and slice ya. You carry that straw hat with aplomb, sir, but you alienate white folks like myself with your ignorance.
July 31st, 2008 at 6:54 pmCountry First. but first put Toby Keith on your Ipod.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:25 amPeople...People, calm down! Toby is being genuine regarding his knowledge of what "Black Folks" think. You see, Toby Keith or just Toby is his given slave name. His real name is Kunta Kinte.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pmToby's right. That's the way some of those "black folk" think. anyone here ever been to Detroit or Toledo those "gangster" low lives with their pants around their ankles thinking they run the place. If Obama looses then they will get all offended saying this country is racist and cause a commotion over it.
August 4th, 2008 at 12:32 pmWe are all entitled to our opinion...
Toby Keith is a Democrat.
August 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pmI WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I ENJOY TOBY SONGS AND THAT YES HE DOES SING TO THE RED NECKS OF THIS COUNTRY
August 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pmEVEN SO IF YOU LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF HIS SONGS I THINK YOU CAN AT LEAST AGREE THAT MOST OF THEM ARE PRETTY TRUE TO FORM FOR NOT JUST THE SOUTHERN RED NECK BUT ALSO THE BLUE COLLAR WORKER NO MATTER WHAT THIER IQ BY THE WAY MINE IS 142 WHAT IS YOURS
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE DIXIE CHICKS ARE SAYING..LOL
August 20th, 2008 at 11:42 amI love liberals, you never let the truth get in the way of your biggoted opinions. Toby Keith is a life-long hard-core liberal DEMOCRAT. (Just like Tim McGraw) All you know is that he plays country music and you stereotype him as a member of the clan. Yes, he writes an performs a number of songs that praise America, and the military, so you ignorantly stereotype him as a "member of the GOP" and a "racist?" Never underestimate the ability of liberals to rant against things they don't have the slightest understanding of.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 am