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	<title>Comments on: ABC: Exxon spends 1 percent of profits on alternative energy.</title>
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		<title>By: happyhungarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyhungarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny that all of you think the government should have the power to tell a company what they should and should not invest or do business in. That&#039;s communisim/socialism. Exxon, BP, and the others are OIL AND GAS companies, NOT alternative fuel companies. If they don&#039;t want to invest in alternative fuels and possibly make money from that arena then that is their decision. How would you feel if the government tried to step in and tell your favorite San Francisco coffee shop that they must invest in and sell hamburgers? Companies have the right to choose what they will and will not invest in. The government has no business meddling in other people&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny that all of you think the government should have the power to tell a company what they should and should not invest or do business in. That&#8217;s communisim/socialism. Exxon, BP, and the others are OIL AND GAS companies, NOT alternative fuel companies. If they don&#8217;t want to invest in alternative fuels and possibly make money from that arena then that is their decision. How would you feel if the government tried to step in and tell your favorite San Francisco coffee shop that they must invest in and sell hamburgers? Companies have the right to choose what they will and will not invest in. The government has no business meddling in other people&#8217;s business.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5281232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would a company rape the public? Capitalism is the shits I was told...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would a company rape the public? Capitalism is the shits I was told&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126840', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: crooksNliars</title>
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		<dc:creator>crooksNliars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #2... the &#039;Windfall Profits&#039; tax is a joke.  If you apply it to oil companies, you need to apply it to other companies that rape the public, like Time Warner and Comcast, that generate HUGE profits... yet don&#039;t make the news, because they don&#039;t have any connection to Iraq or &#039;terrorism&#039;.

They profit so much because they have up AND downtream operations, which is why they&#039;re an integrated oil company.  Do you damn research before you start ranting about this and that.  They&#039;re making so much money because various forces drove up the price of oil... they&#039;re losing their ASS on the refining/retail side... just like every other refiner/retailer in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #2&#8230; the &#8216;Windfall Profits&#8217; tax is a joke.  If you apply it to oil companies, you need to apply it to other companies that rape the public, like Time Warner and Comcast, that generate HUGE profits&#8230; yet don&#8217;t make the news, because they don&#8217;t have any connection to Iraq or &#8216;terrorism&#8217;.</p>
<p>They profit so much because they have up AND downtream operations, which is why they&#8217;re an integrated oil company.  Do you damn research before you start ranting about this and that.  They&#8217;re making so much money because various forces drove up the price of oil&#8230; they&#8217;re losing their ASS on the refining/retail side&#8230; just like every other refiner/retailer in the country.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126814', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>pbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triplekick, it&#039;s ALL the government&#039;s money. They print the stuff. They can print enough to mke your &#039;earned&#039; money worthless--which is what the Bush administration is doing.
The government has the power to manage the currency as they see fit--and that includes taxing people and subsidizing projects.
There&#039;s no right to property in the constitution. Not even in the Declaration of Independence. 
You earned that money because somebody gave it to you. You didn&#039;t make it yourself. The government printed it and somebody gave it to you. All else is mythology.
I&#039;ve worked as a freelancer--and I&#039;ve &#039;earned&#039; an awful lot of money I didn&#039;t get. And there&#039;s no bank of mythic Earning that maintains my credit account. And I&#039;ll just bet that if someone asks you about inherited income or investments, suddenly that emotive &#039;earning&#039; becomes an abstract thing double-quick.
Adam Smith&#039;s Wealth of Nations argues that it&#039;s the prosperity of the nation as a whole that increases wealth. Skillful manipulation of the currency, including taxation and subsidy, can make everyboy richer, and make those dollars of &#039;yours&#039; do more and be worth more.
It was somebody else&#039;s money before it was yours, and it will be somebody else&#039;s money after you. And it&#039;s only by that process that you get anything out of it. and that system is provided for and administered by the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triplekick, it&#8217;s ALL the government&#8217;s money. They print the stuff. They can print enough to mke your &#8216;earned&#8217; money worthless&#8211;which is what the Bush administration is doing.<br />
The government has the power to manage the currency as they see fit&#8211;and that includes taxing people and subsidizing projects.<br />
There&#8217;s no right to property in the constitution. Not even in the Declaration of Independence.<br />
You earned that money because somebody gave it to you. You didn&#8217;t make it yourself. The government printed it and somebody gave it to you. All else is mythology.<br />
I&#8217;ve worked as a freelancer&#8211;and I&#8217;ve &#8216;earned&#8217; an awful lot of money I didn&#8217;t get. And there&#8217;s no bank of mythic Earning that maintains my credit account. And I&#8217;ll just bet that if someone asks you about inherited income or investments, suddenly that emotive &#8216;earning&#8217; becomes an abstract thing double-quick.<br />
Adam Smith&#8217;s Wealth of Nations argues that it&#8217;s the prosperity of the nation as a whole that increases wealth. Skillful manipulation of the currency, including taxation and subsidy, can make everyboy richer, and make those dollars of &#8216;yours&#8217; do more and be worth more.<br />
It was somebody else&#8217;s money before it was yours, and it will be somebody else&#8217;s money after you. And it&#8217;s only by that process that you get anything out of it. and that system is provided for and administered by the government.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126790', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own many shares of various oil companies in my diversified 401K and IRA. Most American’s who are invested in such a way are also invested in oil companies’ success.

And by not diversifying their &#039;energy&#039; sources, the oil companies will find their stock plummeting as oil becomes scarcer and scarcer while demand shifts away to renewable resources. Better hope your fund manager isn&#039;t asleep at the wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own many shares of various oil companies in my diversified 401K and IRA. Most American’s who are invested in such a way are also invested in oil companies’ success.</p>
<p>And by not diversifying their &#8216;energy&#8217; sources, the oil companies will find their stock plummeting as oil becomes scarcer and scarcer while demand shifts away to renewable resources. Better hope your fund manager isn&#8217;t asleep at the wheel.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126788', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;TripleKick X Says:

Given that our government is screwing up the doomed social security system,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given that the Right has had a hard-on for scrapping Social Security from the day FDR signed it into law, the only government that is &quot;screwing up the doomed social security system&quot; is Republican governments who cut taxes for their buddies, then spend borrowed money and try to cover their &quot;fiscal responsibility&quot; by borrowing more from the SS Trust Fund.

If left alone, SS would have more than enough to pay its obligations for decades, and any projected shortfall beyond that could easily be met by raising payroll taxes which are the most regressive federal taxes we have.

Another RW talking point body-slammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TripleKick X Says:</p>
<p>Given that our government is screwing up the doomed social security system,</p></blockquote>
<p>Given that the Right has had a hard-on for scrapping Social Security from the day FDR signed it into law, the only government that is &#8220;screwing up the doomed social security system&#8221; is Republican governments who cut taxes for their buddies, then spend borrowed money and try to cover their &#8220;fiscal responsibility&#8221; by borrowing more from the SS Trust Fund.</p>
<p>If left alone, SS would have more than enough to pay its obligations for decades, and any projected shortfall beyond that could easily be met by raising payroll taxes which are the most regressive federal taxes we have.</p>
<p>Another RW talking point body-slammed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OneCitizen, those are just tired and boring facts. Corporate tools like Dary and TK strive diligently to avoid them in preference for the energetic and exciting oil industry propaganda advertising!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OneCitizen, those are just tired and boring facts. Corporate tools like Dary and TK strive diligently to avoid them in preference for the energetic and exciting oil industry propaganda advertising!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exxon spent $35.6 billion paying dividends and buying back stock.  That&#039;s 15 times the amount spent on exploration and R &amp; D.  More evidence of the smoke blown from oil company execs during Congressional testimony.

The Senate is going nuts on the energy issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exxon spent $35.6 billion paying dividends and buying back stock.  That&#8217;s 15 times the amount spent on exploration and R &amp; D.  More evidence of the smoke blown from oil company execs during Congressional testimony.</p>
<p>The Senate is going nuts on the energy issue.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126764', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upside99</title>
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		<dc:creator>upside99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triplekick,

If the oil companies are only making a dime a gallon of refined gasoline, how TF can they be making $11.6Billion in profits? They make money all along the way, from selling crude, to refining, to transportation and marketing. They also make huge profits from selling natural gas and other petroleum products to manufacturers as well as manufacturing their own.

I was in that business for 15 years and know a LOT more things that they don&#039;t want the public to hear.

Buying into their propaganda much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triplekick,</p>
<p>If the oil companies are only making a dime a gallon of refined gasoline, how TF can they be making $11.6Billion in profits? They make money all along the way, from selling crude, to refining, to transportation and marketing. They also make huge profits from selling natural gas and other petroleum products to manufacturers as well as manufacturing their own.</p>
<p>I was in that business for 15 years and know a LOT more things that they don&#8217;t want the public to hear.</p>
<p>Buying into their propaganda much?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126754', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: OneCitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From US NEWS &amp; WORLD REPORT May 1, 2008

Exxon Pumped Less Oil on the Way to $10.9 Billion Profit

&quot;Beneath ExxonMobil&#039;s $10.9 billion in profits—a first-quarter record for the company and the second-highest in the company&#039;s history—lies another number that should give pause to consumers and policymakers worldwide. The world&#039;s largest publicly owned oil company is producing a lot less oil.&quot;

--snip--

&quot;Exxon accelerated its already aggressive share buy-back program, plowing $8 billion—or 73 percent of the quarter&#039;s profits—into the company&#039;s own stock.&quot;

Less drilling means more profit especially when all they need do is pump the price of their stock up.

Also see Washington Post July 27, 2008, article

&quot;Industry Gushed Money After Reversal on Drilling

&quot;Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling.

&quot;Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month -- three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban -- compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.&quot;

So McCain&#039;s suddenly, miraculously, decided that granting Big Oil a monopoly on every drop of U.S. oil is the smart thing to do. That&#039;s the ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From US NEWS &amp; WORLD REPORT May 1, 2008</p>
<p>Exxon Pumped Less Oil on the Way to $10.9 Billion Profit</p>
<p>&#8220;Beneath ExxonMobil&#8217;s $10.9 billion in profits—a first-quarter record for the company and the second-highest in the company&#8217;s history—lies another number that should give pause to consumers and policymakers worldwide. The world&#8217;s largest publicly owned oil company is producing a lot less oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;snip&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Exxon accelerated its already aggressive share buy-back program, plowing $8 billion—or 73 percent of the quarter&#8217;s profits—into the company&#8217;s own stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>Less drilling means more profit especially when all they need do is pump the price of their stock up.</p>
<p>Also see Washington Post July 27, 2008, article</p>
<p>&#8220;Industry Gushed Money After Reversal on Drilling</p>
<p>&#8220;Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month &#8212; three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban &#8212; compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.&#8221;</p>
<p>So McCain&#8217;s suddenly, miraculously, decided that granting Big Oil a monopoly on every drop of U.S. oil is the smart thing to do. That&#8217;s the ticket.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2007, Exxon gave $7.6 billion in dividends back to shareholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007, Exxon gave $7.6 billion in dividends back to shareholders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>pbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryll, IBM&#039;s primary product line used to be timeclocks. Adobe ust to be a font company. There&#039;s nothing special about a primary product line. Companies change their product lines all the time to survive changing conditions. Remember Polaroid?
And as for subsidies, let&#039;s add in the military assistance to keep their product stream open. How big would their profit be if they had to hire, say, Blackwater to make sure their middle East oil got to market? Brinks supplies their own security guards.
The answer is that oil is both a commercial product and a matter of national sexcurity, because our economy is dependent on it. Hence the fleets keeping the Strait of Hormuz open, hence both Gulf Wars.
It was Winston Churchill who supervised the conversion of the British Fleet as First Lord of the Admiralty before World War I, and then he had misgivings about it--the same misgivings we have today.
It&#039;s been in our interest to develop an alternative to oil for about a hundred years now, and the lesson  was brought home in the (first) Arab Oil Embargo. Dary11, do you think we&#039;d survive another oil embargo, especially if joined by Hugo Chavez? Do you knowwhat would happen if our oil stream were cut in half? Do you know what the winter would be like?
It&#039;s a vital national interest to wean ourselves from dependence on oil. Technology to give us a more flexible energy web would vstly increase our prosperity--and if America were the first to develop the technology, it would increase our clout.
General motors is teetering on the brink of insolvency--but if they were producing the EV-1, instead of having shut production down and crushed all copies of, they&#039;d be making money hand over fist. 
If we act intelligently, we can solve the problem, hve better cars, a better energy network, and the companies producing the solutions will make a ton of money.
If we act stupidly, Americann industry, the American public , and the American nation will all suffer, and both American citizens and American corporations wil suffer, and many will die.
And when the smoke clears, we&#039;ll be a second-class nation, with the new technology in the hands of the European Union, and most of American industry bought by foreigners, and Americans with a standard of living more like post-soviet Russia than prosperous Europe.
Crazy? Impossible? Dary11, look around you. It&#039;s happening NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryll, IBM&#8217;s primary product line used to be timeclocks. Adobe ust to be a font company. There&#8217;s nothing special about a primary product line. Companies change their product lines all the time to survive changing conditions. Remember Polaroid?<br />
And as for subsidies, let&#8217;s add in the military assistance to keep their product stream open. How big would their profit be if they had to hire, say, Blackwater to make sure their middle East oil got to market? Brinks supplies their own security guards.<br />
The answer is that oil is both a commercial product and a matter of national sexcurity, because our economy is dependent on it. Hence the fleets keeping the Strait of Hormuz open, hence both Gulf Wars.<br />
It was Winston Churchill who supervised the conversion of the British Fleet as First Lord of the Admiralty before World War I, and then he had misgivings about it&#8211;the same misgivings we have today.<br />
It&#8217;s been in our interest to develop an alternative to oil for about a hundred years now, and the lesson  was brought home in the (first) Arab Oil Embargo. Dary11, do you think we&#8217;d survive another oil embargo, especially if joined by Hugo Chavez? Do you knowwhat would happen if our oil stream were cut in half? Do you know what the winter would be like?<br />
It&#8217;s a vital national interest to wean ourselves from dependence on oil. Technology to give us a more flexible energy web would vstly increase our prosperity&#8211;and if America were the first to develop the technology, it would increase our clout.<br />
General motors is teetering on the brink of insolvency&#8211;but if they were producing the EV-1, instead of having shut production down and crushed all copies of, they&#8217;d be making money hand over fist.<br />
If we act intelligently, we can solve the problem, hve better cars, a better energy network, and the companies producing the solutions will make a ton of money.<br />
If we act stupidly, Americann industry, the American public , and the American nation will all suffer, and both American citizens and American corporations wil suffer, and many will die.<br />
And when the smoke clears, we&#8217;ll be a second-class nation, with the new technology in the hands of the European Union, and most of American industry bought by foreigners, and Americans with a standard of living more like post-soviet Russia than prosperous Europe.<br />
Crazy? Impossible? Dary11, look around you. It&#8217;s happening NOW.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I think it is our money and I for one don&#039;t mind supporting my government as they offer me all sort of stuff like say the roads that those trucks that bring me shit that makes my life enjoyable. Anyway this seems to contradict your earlier &quot;point&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think it is our money and I for one don&#8217;t mind supporting my government as they offer me all sort of stuff like say the roads that those trucks that bring me shit that makes my life enjoyable. Anyway this seems to contradict your earlier &#8220;point&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126704', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpoxLogic</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpoxLogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very conservative with my driving.  So the $236 that I paid for Exxon&#039;s profits means that almost 3 months of my driving goes towards fattening their pockets.  Therefore, starting October 1 until year&#039;s end, any driving I do can be viewed as helping Exxon make the big bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very conservative with my driving.  So the $236 that I paid for Exxon&#8217;s profits means that almost 3 months of my driving goes towards fattening their pockets.  Therefore, starting October 1 until year&#8217;s end, any driving I do can be viewed as helping Exxon make the big bucks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126666', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Saint Augustine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Augustine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I hear a gnat buzzing arount my ear? Oh it was little Daryll with some more drivil.

The current situation with oil is just a continuence of our developing transportation history. The government recognized that efficient transportation was important to the country when they made a grant to fund a section of the National Road. With popupation growth and increasing commerce our transportation methods changed also. Technology led that change begining with the steam engine that was quickly adapted to shipping and then railroads. 

Railroads grew because of the land grants given to them to lay more track. Trains put a big dent in the long distance wagon business, affecting revenues in both freight and passenger business. Passenger rail service was adapted to cities, first pulled by horses, then powered by electricity as technology brought a new source of energy to the public. 

But technology continued to develope, automobiles became more reliable, trucks began replacing horse drawn wagons and everybody wanted better roads. Then airplanes entered the scene and almost killed off passenger trains, again because of new technology. In all of this the government played a central roll in either funding new technologies or enacting laws that affected the direction the nation would move in.

Now it is 2008 and we have idiots like president Chimpy, candidate McSame and trolls like dopey daryll who want us to regress into a 3rd world status when we should be leading the effort to replace the old, harmful technologies based on hydrocarbons. Why hasn&#039;t this country put maglev to use outside of Disney? Probably for the same reason that many cities replaced their streetcar systems with buses. And that reason was because automobile companies and oil companies had politicians in their pockets even then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I hear a gnat buzzing arount my ear? Oh it was little Daryll with some more drivil.</p>
<p>The current situation with oil is just a continuence of our developing transportation history. The government recognized that efficient transportation was important to the country when they made a grant to fund a section of the National Road. With popupation growth and increasing commerce our transportation methods changed also. Technology led that change begining with the steam engine that was quickly adapted to shipping and then railroads. </p>
<p>Railroads grew because of the land grants given to them to lay more track. Trains put a big dent in the long distance wagon business, affecting revenues in both freight and passenger business. Passenger rail service was adapted to cities, first pulled by horses, then powered by electricity as technology brought a new source of energy to the public. </p>
<p>But technology continued to develope, automobiles became more reliable, trucks began replacing horse drawn wagons and everybody wanted better roads. Then airplanes entered the scene and almost killed off passenger trains, again because of new technology. In all of this the government played a central roll in either funding new technologies or enacting laws that affected the direction the nation would move in.</p>
<p>Now it is 2008 and we have idiots like president Chimpy, candidate McSame and trolls like dopey daryll who want us to regress into a 3rd world status when we should be leading the effort to replace the old, harmful technologies based on hydrocarbons. Why hasn&#8217;t this country put maglev to use outside of Disney? Probably for the same reason that many cities replaced their streetcar systems with buses. And that reason was because automobile companies and oil companies had politicians in their pockets even then.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126658', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>misshusseinmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TripleKick X Says
July 31st, 2008 at 1:28 pm 
Exxon doesn’t need to spend 1 red cent on alternative energy. Their in the business of selling OIL.
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Then I guess they don&#039;t need any government subsidies, either -- subsidies they got by assuring the government they would assist in the development of renewable energy sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TripleKick X Says<br />
July 31st, 2008 at 1:28 pm<br />
Exxon doesn’t need to spend 1 red cent on alternative energy. Their in the business of selling OIL.<br />
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<p>Then I guess they don&#8217;t need any government subsidies, either &#8212; subsidies they got by assuring the government they would assist in the development of renewable energy sources.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126644', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ArmchairEnergist</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArmchairEnergist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oil companies make money for their shareholders by drilling for crude, refining oil to make gasoline, diesel, home heating oil and so on. Does it make sense for them to invest in alternative energy? Perhaps. But if you are making scads of money doing what you do best, maybe they should focus on what they do best. It&#039;s up to the government to get out of the oil company subsidy game (including the terribly inefficient ethanol subsidy hoax) and give credits to alternative energy companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oil companies make money for their shareholders by drilling for crude, refining oil to make gasoline, diesel, home heating oil and so on. Does it make sense for them to invest in alternative energy? Perhaps. But if you are making scads of money doing what you do best, maybe they should focus on what they do best. It&#8217;s up to the government to get out of the oil company subsidy game (including the terribly inefficient ethanol subsidy hoax) and give credits to alternative energy companies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126638', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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Does anyone think it is odd that when Daryll went away, TK (1-infinity) shows up immediately? Almost like Sybil allowing another ‘personality’ to emerge.

Kinda strange…&lt;/em&gt;

They only have a couple of computers at the RNC troll bank. The trolls have to share.</description>
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<p>Does anyone think it is odd that when Daryll went away, TK (1-infinity) shows up immediately? Almost like Sybil allowing another ‘personality’ to emerge.</p>
<p>Kinda strange…</em></p>
<p>They only have a couple of computers at the RNC troll bank. The trolls have to share.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126628', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>StratRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it is standard survival. If my business relied on a finite resouce, and that resource was being used up at faster, and faster rates, I would look to other ways to leverage off the equipment and materials I already have.

If nobody does anything, the oil will be gone - or too expensive to extract - and the oil companies will evaporate as a going concern. They are drilling their way out of existance. Seems sorta backward. Why not increase your viability by using your vast resouces to find other ways to power our planet? That would be hugely profitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it is standard survival. If my business relied on a finite resouce, and that resource was being used up at faster, and faster rates, I would look to other ways to leverage off the equipment and materials I already have.</p>
<p>If nobody does anything, the oil will be gone &#8211; or too expensive to extract &#8211; and the oil companies will evaporate as a going concern. They are drilling their way out of existance. Seems sorta backward. Why not increase your viability by using your vast resouces to find other ways to power our planet? That would be hugely profitable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126610', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>StratRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;belac Says: 

Almost like Sybil allowing another ‘personality’ to emerge.

Nah, just a shift change..&lt;/em&gt;

Very funny...Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>belac Says: </p>
<p>Almost like Sybil allowing another ‘personality’ to emerge.</p>
<p>Nah, just a shift change..</em></p>
<p>Very funny&#8230;Good stuff.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5126586', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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