8 years ago today: Bush pledged to ‘uphold the honor and dignity of the office.’
By on Aug 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 am
8 years ago today: Bush pledged to ‘uphold the honor and dignity of the office.’
Eight years ago today, President Bush delivered his acceptance speech at the 2000 Republican National Convention. John Perr notes this pledge from Bush:
So when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land, I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God.
In the speech, Bush also said, “A generation shaped by Vietnam must remember the lessons of Vietnam: When America uses force in the world, the cause must be just, the goal must be clear, and the victory must be overwhelming.” (The picture on the right is of Bush shaking hands with McCain at the conclusion of the 2000 RNC Convention.)
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I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected
The first lie among legion.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 amChristain supporters of bush got anything to say about this? If you still believe that bush is a christain then you might as well have been with jimmy jones.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 amProblem is those behind Bush, the ones who are in control, did not EVER have any intention of the oath of office.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:29 amMeant” …did not ever have any intention to honor the oath of office.”
I need my COFFEE!
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 amMay he suffer a stroke the day after he leaves office, being fully aware yet unable to move. May he then live a very long life. Even then will he only have barely begun to balance karma.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am“… to which I have been elected, so help me God.”
Ah, you see, he really never was elected – therein lies the rub. “… so help me God” is just pandering.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 amSo when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to destroy the Constitution and The Bill of Rights, I will swear to create 9/11 and destroy our economy and our Moral standing in the world so help me God.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 amBush also said, “A generation shaped by Vietnam must remember the lessons of Vietnam:
That you didn’t go , coward ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 amAll that GDumbya has managed to do over the past eight years is to cut the balls of the right-wing of the republican party. If there will ever be anything positive recorded about his “legacy”, this may be it.
All you have to do to recognize this is view the “political theater” of the republicans standing in a darkened Congress and playing the victims after the session ended because they obstructed an energy bill last week. The “drill here, drill now” charade is the effort of a desperate party — it’s this year’s version of Terry Schiavo and the defense of marriage bill.
The republicans are, indeed, “the new Castrati”.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:40 amEvery time this POS’s lips move, another lie is spewed. He lied when he was governor of my state, and he has continued to lie when he was appointed to the W.H.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 amHe needs to be behind bars in solitary confinement and his money needs to be taken away from him and his family.
Like when he calls his air pollution act the clean air act, Bush always says the opposite of his true intentions.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 am>So when I put my hand on the Bible…
….just dont ask me or anyone who works for me to swear to tell the truth while doing so…
I think most vampires would be more willing to put their hands on a bible than these guys are…
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 amSo when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land, I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God.
And, as it turns out, nothing could have been further than the truth. The Constitution shredded, the rule of law just a distant memory, torture and death, this “compassionate conservative” knows nothing of honor and dignity.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 amCan’t expect this dude to live up to an oath delivered in a language he doesn’t speak.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 amAnd, out of one side of his mouth he said, with forked tongue, “I am a uniter, not a divider,” while setting out to divide and conquer through fear, hate, and the BIG LIE!
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 amI guess the lessons of Vietnam that George WPE Bush learned was that you could always get someone poorer, braver or more patriotic to fight your battles for you, and you and your friends could profit from the carnage.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 amYeah, nothin’ divisive about “you’re either with us or against us,” is there?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 amGood Morning USA_Pat:
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 amThose are so interesting ideas you have there. Might you be willing to expand on them a bit more. Maybe offer up some supporting evidences or something to try to substantiate what otherwise sort of just reads little snippets of partisanism
USA_Pat Says:
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There’s no lie there, he did remove the stain of the Clinton years.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 am
Yeah
And made his own (skid) mark upon US history ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 amUSA_pat, you are one neuron short of a synapse, aren’t you.
GDumbya didn’t remove the supposed stain of the Clinton years (I assume you are talking about the blow job because–other than that–the Clinton years were very good). No. GDumbya merely eclipsed it.
Now we can only hope that President Obama can remove the putrid stink of the GDumbya years. It’s a tall task because GDumbya has managed to squander a government surplus, destroy our military, diminish our standing in the world and bring the strongest economy to its knees.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amUSA_Pat Says:
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In fact, President Bush served his country as a fighter pilot.
http://www.wingmenforbush.com/
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am
He prevented the impending VC invasion of Alabama and Texas , huh ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 amForgive me, dbadass, I have strayed from the path you demonstrate. Your example is inspiring. I will try not to give in to my baser impulses and treat the troll with the dignity and respect every living creature deserves.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 amHelp me out here USA-Pat.
Is Pakistan with us or against us???
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 amIt’s clear that the troll doesn’t have more than two brain cells to rub together. No point in trying to get him to venture from his safe and secure talking points into the scary and uncarted waters of individual thinking.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 amUSA_Pat Says:
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“Yeah, nothin’ divisive about “you’re either with us or against us,” is there?”
He was referring to terrorists and their supporters there. You think being against the Islamic terrorists is “divisive”?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 am
It is when you view everyone that is much more intelligent than yourselves (which would include just about everyone on the planet) , that finds your methods and reasoning specious at best , as being “against us” …………
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 amLying about an extramarital weenie wash makes the crimes of this administration look limp in comparison.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 amUSA_patsy, please explain your contention that when the President said “you’re either with us or against us” he was talking about islamic terrorists.
Was the President extending an invitation to islamic terrorists to join with us in the fight against islamic terrorism?
Or was the president perhaps suggesting that anyone who objected to methods the President adopted to fight that battle was not “with us”? That’s the meaning I took from that statement, oft-repeated. Perhaps I was wrong.
Can you clarify?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 amUSA_Pat Says:
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“He prevented the impending VC invasion of Alabama and Texas , huh ?”
You insult the millions of veterans who served in the United States over the years.
tom, your juvenile insults only reflect on you.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
No , because the millions of vets who served , completed their military obligation(s) ; Chimpy did not ………….
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 amDidn’t take long for the troll to wrap himself in the flag. Just a little advice – impugning another’s patriotism doesn’t work here.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 amShoot the enemy of the state on sight.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 amShoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
Shoot the enemy of the state on sight.
I think you’re wrong about that.
MCM wasn’t insulting the millions of veterans who served in the United States over the years.
He was only insulting one who used connections to get a cushy assignments while his comrades were sent overseas to an unwinnable war, and who later shirked his duties.
I can see how you’d make that mistake.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 amUSA_Pat Says:
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Lying to a federal judge in a civil lawsuit is a crime. Defending America from terrorists is not a crime.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
Spying on fellow Americans without a warrant is , though ; and is much more egregious a crime than an extra-marital affair , USA_Putz ………
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 amHmmmm, invading the privacy of millions of Americans without a court order is a crime.
Violating the Geneva conventions is a crime.
Giving false and misleading testimony to Congress is a crime.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 amUSA_Pat Says:
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President Bush completed his service.
http://www.wingmenforbush.com/
Do you support Obama’s plan to send more troops to Afghanistan? When do you deploy, chickenhawk?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 am
Soon as we verify your service in Iraq for your ‘fearless leader’s’ “noble cause” , GOP pansy coward…….
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 amAuthorizing the release of a covert agent’s identity is a crime as well.
dbadass, I tried, but this troll is boring.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am(yawn.)
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 amwingmenforbush seems a unbiased organization. It says so right in the name…
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 amWell, to be fair to our president, he never said when he would start “to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected”. It’s a small technocality to be sure, but you know what they alway say, “Let the buyer beware” especially with repuglicians.
“Voters quickly forget what a man says.”
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 amRichard Nixon (1913-1994)
USA_Pat Says:
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There’s no evidence President Bush violated the law.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am
He admitted to it , you moron …………
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am“I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land”
These words coming out of the mouth of a Repukian mean nothing.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 ambe patient ralph. I myself an enjoying the mimicry currently being emplyed with the poor attempt to use the “chickenhawk” strategy in reverse
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 amUSA_Pat Says:
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When do you deploy, chickenhawk?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Is Obama president yet ?
Where and when did you do tours in Iraq , you GOP pansy coward ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 amI think someone forgot communist and socialist…
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 amDo you support Obama’s plan to send more troops to Afghanistan? When do you deploy, chickenhawk?
Ahhh. The keyboard commando strikes again! It is time to “flag” you, pant-load. You are obviously shooting blanks. Your posts are so transparently ignorant. I can only imagine that you are a typical brain-dead ditto-head.
Speaking as a Vietnam veteran, I can tell you that criticizing GDumbya’s supposed “military record” doesn’t insult me at all. He flew a plane that had been retired from combat; he jumped over the backs of young men who had been on the waiting list for the TANG for years; and then he went AWOL when he got scared that a pilot physical would expose his cocaine addition. BFD. His military service is as bogus as his “presidential legacy”.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 amPerhaps you’re right, db.
Trolls of this caliber would be easier to tolerate — nay, enjoy — if I made the effort to see them as cartoon characters rather than as real human beings who actually held the beliefs they profess.
kind of like the way I’ve been able to enjoy Daryll’s performances over the years.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 amUSA_Pat Says:
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“You better put some ice on that.”
Bill Clinton.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am
“Reading is the basics for all learning.”
“Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?”
“Our nation must come together to unite.”
“I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.”
Chimpy McFlightsuit
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 amUSA_Pat Says:
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So you’re waiting to sign up until Obama is president?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
Your moronic simian deity has been (the worst) president for 8 years ; how many tours of Iraq have you done ?
Or should we just mark you down as a typical GOP pansy coward as I’ve stated several times …………?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am“trollsbwild Says:
Problem is those behind Bush, the ones who are in control, did not EVER have any intention of the oath of office.” Problem is that BUSH had no intention on keeping that promise. Like way to many republicans!
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 amwingmenforbush is actually a pretty funny name for such an organization which so clearly is dedicated to impartiality
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 amOkay, perhaps I see an opening where I can actually offer some help to our friend USA_pat.
Friend, you might benefit from a quick review of the Fourteen Points of Fascism.
Next, as a fun exercise, try to match them up to familiar features of liberalism.
Then match them up with characteristics of the Bush Administration.
Come back and report your results. Remember to show your work.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 amralph here comes the part where they just start throwing out any sort of random thing that pops into their head regardless of the topic.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 amTheToonGuy Says:
Didn’t take long for the troll to wrap himself in the flag. Just a little advice – impugning another’s patriotism doesn’t work here.
Never assume a troll is new to the blog; in most cases, it’s one of our small but determined clot of clods, back with a new login and burning for attention. And remember that the trolls are working with a very small box of crayons, so you can expect to read the same stupid “attacks” over and over. Creativity is not a troll strength.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 amdb, are you saying that our guest is not really interested in meaningful debate?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 amDear God,
If you exist, please come and pick up all the trash you left behind. The sooner the better. The stench coming from it is overwhelming.
Thanks in advance,
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 amThe Loyal Opposition
USA_Pat Says:
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“I’ve visited, I believe, 57 states, two more to go.”
Barack Obama
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
“Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better”
George W Shrub
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 amand now the finale where we beat feat under the guise of imagined intellectual superiority
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amUSA_Pat Says:
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MC,
The recruiting office is open tomorrow. You can go first thing in the morning.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am
Will you be there with your honorable discharge papers ?
I’m believing there isn’t a chance in hell of that ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amralph the wonder llama Says:
db, are you saying that our guest is not really interested in meaningful debate?
db is being polite. My opinion is that the “guest” isn’t interested and, if it was, is utterly incapable of doing anything but repeating trite and worn-out “attacks”. This one is really from the bottom of the bin, though. I guess one shouldn’t expect anything better on a Sunday morning; I doubt the McCain bonus points are available for overtime.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amUSA_Pat Says:
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I don’t see anyone here capable of meaningful debate.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 am
You of course , having such an advanced mind and all and resembling an intellectual giant , backing a mental furball like Shrub , sure have a truly compelling argument ………
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 amMore Bush words of wisdom:
“No more public scatology.” 7/18/97
“Had we to do it over again, we would look at the consequences of catastrophic success, being so successful so fast that an enemy that should have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day.”
2004/Time magazine
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” 8/5/04
Compassionate conservative?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 amUniter, not a divider?
USA_Patsey Says:
There’s no evidence President Bush violated the law.
Bwaaaahahahahaha….Bwaaaahahahahaha!!!
You are an idiot, Bush has admitted to these crimes, you truly are a supreme idiot.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 amOooh, here’s a handy link. Credit due to Andrew Strong.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 amfeet but I think you get my point
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 amOf course, the latest incarnation of our friendly little troll isn’t interested in or capable of debate. To think otherwise would be tantamount to believing that the guy hitting on you in the bar is really “interested in getting to know you”.
usa_pat is merely an untalented spray-painter who has wandered onto this thread with no motive other than to disrupt the discussion. All he has succeeded in doing is exposing his shallow, pathetic ignorance.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 am“So when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to [cause]“:
2 stolens elections
2 illegal preemptive wars
our State Sponsored Terrorism (see 9/11)
4,000+ men and women dying in 2 illegal Oil Wars
a crumbling infrastructure
a tanking economy
a Million+ dead Iraqis
the Millions of displaced Iraqis
Katrina and it’s continuing aftermath
Our disgraced Moral Standing in the World (secret prisons, prisoner abuse)
The Patriot Act
The Military Commissions Act
The Homegrown Terrorist Prevention Act
The FISA Amendment Act
HELL on earth unleashed in the Middle East
People losing their homes left and right
$4+ a gallon for gas
skyrocketing food prices
US Attorney Scandal
lowered FDA standards
A dumber society
Greater disparity between rich and poor
A Disgraceful Environmental Policy
A Complicit Corporate Controlled Media
Manipulating Science
Executive Power Grab thus eliminating checks and balances
Disdain for the Constitution and The Bill of Rights
This “Phony War On Terror”
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August 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 amThanks, USA_pat. I checked out your link and found its author’s ideas strikingly at odds with every other generally accepted definition of the term “fascism”, almost as if he were redefining the term in a way that suited his needs rather than the needs of a commonly accepted language.
You see, here’s how dictionary.com defines “Fascism”:
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Here’s how wordnet defines it (same source):
a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
and the American heritage new Dictionary of Cultural literacy says this (same source):
Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “cult of personality”), which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.
But thanks for the link. What did you think of the one I offered you?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 amUSA_Pat Says:
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ralph,
your should review this.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 am
“Review” Jonah Goldberg at National Review On-Line ?
Okay , I will ………They both suck ass
Like you and Chimpy , you moronic pansy……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 am…so help me God (snicker, snicker)
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 amdbadass Says:
feet but I think you get my point
I thought it was an intriguing typo. Given the subject of the thread, it could even be considered calculated irony.
There are local blueberries from the farmers’ market calling to me . . . time for breakfast.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 am84: It seems you have grasped the peeble from my hand, grasshopper. JK ralph, I really enjoy your style and 84 is so good you can be assured of no response. Driving them away through active engagement is the both effective and amusing.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 amAnd USA_pat… I’m sorry I called you boring. I was cranky. Hadn’t had my orange juice yet.
Let’s debate, ‘kay?
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 amdb, you are too kind… I am not worthy.
It’s all a journey.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 amEven the Bush announcement of his Presidential delegation for the Beijing Olympics is sneaky. It’s purely a family and rich political donor friends event:
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2008/08/bushs-bush-entourage-to-beijing.html
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 amenjoy those berries gummitch! I myself am struggling whether to go with the chipped beef or the bluefin tuna…
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 amUSA_Pat Says:
Lying to a federal judge in a civil lawsuit is a crime. Defending America from terrorists is not a crime.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
______
Wiretapping American citizens without a warrant is a crime.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 amLocking up detainees indefinitely without right to counsel or even knowledge of the charges against them is a crime.
Torturing detainees and prisoners of war is a crime.
Renditioning detainees to countries that practice torture is a crime.
Invading a country that poses no threat to the United States is a crime.
all I got is boring old pancakes.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:00 pmThe troll, once again, is showing their ignorant colors.
What more authoritative definition of Fascism than the one written by the inventors of Fascism themselves?
“We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the ‘right’, a Fascist century. If the 19th century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the ‘collective’ century, and therefore the century of the State.[...]
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 pmFascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere.”
The Doctrine of Fascism
OT:
my breakfast: soy cheese, egg whites, soy bacon on whole wheat english muffin with salsa.
granola
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmcoffee w/ skim milk.
USA_Pat Says:
“I’ve visited, I believe, 57 states, two more to go.”
Barack Obama
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
There are more than 50 entities that hold primaries in the U.S., you know. Or did you forget about the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Sen. Obama was only off by one.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmKay Says:
my breakfast: soy cheese, egg whites, soy bacon on whole wheat english muffin with salsa.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
______
This morning we had fresh basil, grape tomato, and Moroccan olive omelettes with paranno cheese, seasoned with a bit of coriander and nutmeg.
And coffee.
I am the king of breakfast.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pmEat more Soy : Support The Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
Re-investigate 9/11
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 pmImpeach.
Prosecute all current and former members of the Bush Admin.
hussein toasterhead wins.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 pmUSA_Pat said:
No. The insult isn’t to the veterans, it’s to the chicken hawk Bush who championed the Viet Nam war and then used his family connections to avoid serving in it.
usa_pat, your inane drivel only reflects on you.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pmKay:
You might want to go easy on the soy…
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2006/12/soy_makes_you_g_1.html
hussein toasterhead:
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pmI’ll swap you my recipe for lobster, goat cheese and chive omelettes for yours above
So many lies and so little time.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pmtom Says:
All that GDumbya has managed to do over the past eight years is to cut the balls of the right-wing of the republican party. If there will ever be anything positive recorded about his “legacy”, this may be it.
Yes, but is it worth the price this nation has had to pay?
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:21 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
hussein toasterhead wins.
Ha! You only say that because you haven’t had Oregon blueberries.
Not that those omelettes don’t sound great.
And dbadass has lobster!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 pmUSA_Pat Says:
There’s no lie there, he did remove the stain of the Clinton years.
So this idiot troll thinks that a lie about consensual sex is a bigger stain on this country than shredding our constitution, doing away with our rights to privacy, bankrupting a nation and killing millions of people.
Dude, you need to find your moral compass, you seem to have lost it somewhere.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pmONE MONTH AGO — IN LATE JUNE — A MCCAIN AD SUPERIMPOSED OBAMA’S VISAGE ON A ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO MOCK HIS SUPPOSED ‘PRESUMPTUOUSNESS.’
To all you self-deluding gullible Republicans who claim to believe that Obama interjected RACE into the presidential campaign by stating, “You know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He’s risky.”, it must be humbling or even humiliating to realize how easily manipulated you’ve been. Your guy is a flat out lying SOB whose basic campaign strategy is to smear Obama and then claim to be the victim when Obama calls him out for what he’s done. MCCAIN IS A SHAMELESS LYING RACIST! And those who support him are no more honorable or worthy of trust or respect than he is.
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/setting-the-rec.html
Ad was released by McCain’s campaign on June 27th, 2008.
NOTE: The image doesn’t occur until about three-quarters of the way through the video. The way YouTube works, the default image occurs at the midpoint. In other words, McCain’s campaign purposefully choose this image.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pmEverybody who flagged Pat away raise your hands.
Aright stop, stop, there’s too many to count.
How about anyone who did not flag Pat raise your hand.
Ah, that’s better, only 1.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
This morning we had fresh basil, grape tomato, and Moroccan olive omelettes with paranno cheese, seasoned with a bit of coriander and nutmeg.
And coffee.
I am the king of breakfast.
Oooh. Invite me over for breakfast please…..
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 pmIn that photo, John McCain looks like a blow-up doll.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 pmI’ll tell you 8yrs later : the cause for invading Iraq was unclear and built on false assumptions. The FAILURE has been overwhelming. God has never been supportive of this. One big lie after another. Disaster Capitalist neo-con freak has ruined this nation and the world. Death to Bush and his entire family.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 pmHe’s also much shorter than I realized. Usually, short people don’t get elected to be President. Has something to do with the assumption that height = leadership abilities.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 pmAnyone who voted for this POS is getting what they deserve.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 pmIs the steroidal confetti masking their flag pins?
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:45 pmSAug – Please – I didn’t flag USA Pat for the same reason you don’t toss the Sunday comics out after reading the Front Page/Opinion Sections . . . you need a laugh to keep from crying.
It is folks like Pat that reaffirm my desire to keep funding public education and a woman’s right to chose . . . for the world, some should not have seeped around the edge and would have been better off left on the sheets . . .
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pmUSA_Pat Says: Calling me juvenile names won’t make your lies true.
I don’t see you posting anything factual.
Reality has a liberal bias.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pmTotalitarianism is conservative.
Egalitarianism is liberal.
Clearly you do not own a dictionary, or a brain.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pmAs for the contention that Pres Bush didn’t break the law, not only did he break it, he admitted to it, and defended it by saying it was a necessity, you know, his illegal wiretaps being “necessary” tools in his “war on terror”.
What’s more, he tried to advance the view that his authority as president trumped the law -which has been questioned and rebuked time and again:
A federal judge in California said Wednesday that the wiretapping law established by Congress was the “exclusive” means for the president to eavesdrop on Americans, and he rejected the government’s claim that the president’s constitutional authority as commander in chief trumped that law.
Judge Rejects Bush’s View on Wiretaps
Not to mention torture, indefinite detentions, invading and occupying a country that posed no threat, secret prisons, illegal “renditions”, etc., etc., etc…
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:19 pmUSA_Pat Says:
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Calling me juvenile names won’t make your lies true.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
As opposed to your GOP/Rovian talking points ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm.
AND YET…
NO COVERAGE OF THE NON-IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS JULY 25, 2008…
… still distancing from reality. How can T.P. address responsibility and accountability when they turn a blind eye(monkey see no evil) when this president is basically indicted
by the House Judiciary Committee.
Honestly, credibility lays in bringing these issues to light when they occur. The American people are fed up with the MSM hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil Bush that the American people depend upon places like T.P. to drill these issues up and forward.
WHO DOES T.P. PROTECT BY NOT DRILLING PERTINENT ISSUES TO LIGHT?
WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE TO DEFLECT FROM PERTINENT ISSUES?
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August 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pmUSA_Pat Says:
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Totalitarianism has a liberal bias.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, central state-controlled economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror tactics.
Where’s the “liberal bias” above , assbag ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pmKay wrote…
2 stolens elections
2 illegal preemptive wars
our State Sponsored Terrorism (see 9/11)
4,000+ men and women dying in 2 illegal Oil Wars
a crumbling infrastructure
a tanking economy
a Million+ dead Iraqis
the Millions of displaced Iraqis
Katrina and it’s continuing aftermath
Our disgraced Moral Standing in the World (secret prisons, prisoner abuse)
The Patriot Act
The Military Commissions Act
The Homegrown Terrorist Prevention Act
The FISA Amendment Act
HELL on earth unleashed in the Middle East
People losing their homes left and right
$4+ a gallon for gas
skyrocketing food prices
US Attorney Scandal
lowered FDA standards
A dumber society
Greater disparity between rich and poor
A Disgraceful Environmental Policy
A Complicit Corporate Controlled Media
Manipulating Science
Executive Power Grab thus eliminating checks and balances
Disdain for the Constitution and The Bill of Rights
This “Phony War On Terror”
“Mission Accomplished!” – George W. Bush -Deserter in Chief
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm“The Earth is flat! Silly libs!”
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm~USA_Pat
…And fascism has a George W. Bush bias.
One only has to look at the people he has surrounded him — the wisdom of:
Karl Rove, who won’t take an oath that says he’s telling “the whole truth,” ’cause then he couldn’t take advantage of his word-mincing abilities;
Alberto Gonzales, who “can’t recall remembering.” What a mockery he made of a most important position.
Cheney: Let’s dress up our soldiers as Iranians, put them on a boat we make and have shots exchanged so we can declare war on that country.
Donald Rumsfeld: The known known is that he was in over his head and only succeeded when offering propaganda to former military leaders.
Then, we move to the second tier and the herd of “Loyal Bushies.”
Never in their wildest dreams could our founding fathers envision such wanton disrespect of the rule of law and of the citizenry under an administration’s “protection.”
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pmJudges make bad rulings every day.
~USA_Pat
Right, whatever you say…
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pmUSSR_Patty says…
Gregor, despite the best efforts of the left, it’s not illegal for the president to defend the country from its enemies.
“When the President does it, that means that it’s not illegal.” – Richard M. Nixon
That line of thinking worked out well for old “tricky Dick”, didn’t it?
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 pmUSA_Pat Says:
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Gregor, despite the best efforts of the left, it’s not illegal for the president to defend the country from its enemies.
Judges make bad rulings every day.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
That isn’t the president’s duty , you uncomprehending nincompoop .
The Constitution assigns the president two roles: chief executive of the federal government and Commander in Chief of the armed forces. As Commander in Chief, the president has the authority to send troops into combat, and is the only one who can decide whether to use nuclear weapons.
As chief executive, he enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. He also approves or vetoes acts of Congress and grants pardons.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 pmUSA_Pat Says:
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Fascism has a Democratic party bias.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Fascism has roots in cancervatism , d-bag ; you need to brush up on history and definitions……….
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmUSA_Pat Says: Fascism has a Democratic party bias.
You’ve demonstrated your ignornace and laziness already by not knowing what totalitarianism is nor bothering to look it up, but confusing Fascism? Really?
Fascism was Hitler, Mussolini and Franco. You don’t get anymore conservative than those ‘Fatherland’ god-heads who waged war and destruction.
Fascism is also the opposite of Communism and Socialism.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:36 pmI see that Pat has gone poof….
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 pmUSA_Pat(sey),
Name one redeeming quality to lies…
Name one redeeming quality to usurping Congress…
Name one redeeming quality to violating American Justice…
Name one redeeming quality to torture…
Name one redeeming quality to undermining Liberty…
Name one redeeming quality, just one to any of this…
… Because this is what you defend.
Bush presented false and misleading information to the Senate…
Through the use of signing statements, Bush has nullified the intent of Congressional legislation…
When Bush said, “We do not torture,” he was omitting the torture memos that were made AFTER he ordered torture to occur.
Bush instituted a lexicon of loyalists in the American Justice Department, Mukasey being the latest. A man who refuses to enforce the Rule of Law who should be in prison and court marshaled, being he is a General.
With the strike of the pen, Bush signed into law the MAC which attempted to take away ALL people’s unalienable Rights to a fair and impartial turn through an unbiased Justice system(only to be restored by the SCOTUS). His signature to this legislation was a deliberate act against the Liberty of the Republic. Then again with the Telecom immunization, his signature ensured that NO AMERICAN has the Right to pursue Justice in their name should their privacy be violated, ordered or not.
Patriots stand up to evil.
Patriots stand up against tyranny.
Patriots stand up against Fascism and Communism.
You Sir, have wrapped yourself in the cloak of Patriotism yet embrace Fascist concepts and Communistic tendencies. What is that patriotic to…? Most certainly NOT American ideals and values.
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August 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pmUSSR_Patty says….
Fascism has a Democratic party bias.
Wrong….not very surprising…
Fascism – the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, corporatism, militarism, authoritarianism, statism, dictatorship, populism, collectivism and economic planning.
Fascism is the cooperation of government with bussiness for the benefit of both. Business profits greatly from government policy – think No-Bit-Contracts, and government – the corrupt ones seeking perminant power- profit through payback – either bribes or campaign contrabutions.
The result is what we have today in America, an Oligarchy as a result of a self coup d’ eta, the overthrow of a government by the government!
“If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier – just so long I’m the dictator.” December 18, 2000 George Bush Deserter in Chief
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:42 pmGeorge Bush has basically been telling us all these years that he needs to burn the village in order to save it, that his authority as a president allows him to issue the order, that we should all be thankful that he is looking after us, and that those who speak against the idea are not good Americans.
Well, excuse me if I question the wisdom of torching the place and reducing it to ashes, specially when it’s clear The Decider doesn’t have my bests interest in mind.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:43 pmAnd now McCain expects the American people to handle him GWB torch so he can continue on the same path to war.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:44 pmAre Americans ready to do it?
That’s what the coming November election is all about.
If McCain is elected,you can bet on him using force and wars to solve world problems,as he sees them.
McCain believes in power, he believes in military power as the ultimate solution over any negotiations.
He already said in more than one occasion:”I know how to win wars”.
Look at whom McCain already gathered around him to advise him on foreign issues. They are Neocons warmongers who want to see World War III in the making,and idea shared by extreme religious zealots who also support McCain.
A McCain win means bloody wars will continue for sure for so many years in a very highly volatile areas like the Middle East which is crucial to world economy .
USA_Pat,
Name one redeeming quality to lies…
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pmName one redeeming quality to usurping Congress…
Name one redeeming quality to violating American Justice…
Name one redeeming quality to torture…
Name one redeeming quality to undermining Liberty…
Name one redeeming quality, just one to any of this…
… Because this is what you defend.
The irony of conflating government, patriotism, and leader while accusing others of being fascists is completely lost on the troll.
Not to mention trotting out the “small government” meme when this government has expanded its authority to limits never seen before…
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pmGood Americans criticise their government as they see fit, and do not become loyal bootlickers of whoever happens to be living in the White House at the time.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 pmUSA_Pat,
What lies…?
George W. Bush presented false and misleading Intel to Congress… ON PURPOSE!(If T.P. covered it you would be informed!)
George W. Bush authorised WAR CRIMES and TORTURE! The CIA memos were only written AFTER the fact to CYA.
George W. Bush ordered domestic surveillance in violation to FISA! He’s gone as far as coercing Congress to grant immunity, EX POST FACTO, in violation to Article II, Sec. 9, par. 3.
PROVE BUSH IS CORRECT!
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August 3rd, 2008 at 1:53 pmUSA_Pat,
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:55 pmAnd Good Germans remained silent!
Government and George Bush are not synonyms, USA_Pat.
Let’s see if you can wrap your tiny little mind around that fact.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:57 pmSo when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land, I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:58 pmHe was never elected! He begun he lies from the momente they placed this criminal in office!
USA_Pat,
If I’m wrong… then;
~ Prove that Bush didn’t mislead Congress about the Iraq Intel.
~ Prove Bush didn’t authorize TORTURE!
~ Prove Bush didn’t dismiss the Geneva Conventions regarding the treatment of enemy combatants.
~Prove Bush didn’t order warrantless surveillance of Americans in violation to FISA.
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August 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm…for the record, I hate that my name is close to “US-Pat/USA Pat.”
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 pmFlag the troll
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pmNo one is surprised to see USA_Pat getting stupider by the minute.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:04 pmI love my country in much the same way that I love my four children.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pmI love them enough to expect them to do well and to do good.
I love them enough not to make excuses for them.
I love them enough to daily instruct them in their responsibilities to be not only law-abiding but to help others whenever possible.
When they fall short, I love them enough to correct them.
I love them enough to hold them accountable for their decisions.
I love them enough to express my displeasure if they do not treat others respectfully.
USA_Pat is an eight year old…
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pmUS-Pat Says: Fascism is a form of socialism, not its opposite.
So you think black is a form of white? Damn, you really are stupid.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pmUSA_Pat,
You still haven’t answered my question…
Don’t turn it on me. Bush is the one you’re defending…
WHAT IS MORAL about presenting misleading information to Congress…? He deliberately left out 16 Intel agency OPINIONS concerning Iraq’s intent… WHY would someone lie like this?
WHAT MORAL COMPASS suggests it is acceptable to authorize TORTURE and then get your DOJ to write memos and legal briefs(mind you memos and briefs are not laws but arguments to be made in a court of law if necessary) making this authorization acceptable…?
WHAT KIND OF PRESIDENT attempts to legitimize EX POST FACTO LAWS… a direct violation of the Constitution?
USA-Patsy,
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:08 pmIf you can not keep up, fine… use The Google!
But please, don’t come here and argue ignorance.
ThinkCensorship Says:
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Censorous cowards.
The president did not present misleading intel to congress.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Because those non-existent WMD’s and that fictional “mushroom cloud” were all found up your stupid ass , USA_Putz ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pmThinkCensorship Says:
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The president did not authorize torture.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Who did then ?
You ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:23 pmOne particularly pathetic aspect of Bush supporters’ opinion is that they’re defending a president who counts on a certain percentage of ‘Mericans not being intelligent enough to open their minds to the truth.
Way to play right into his hand. Don’t let the truth get in the way of a cemented opinion.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:29 pmLooks like USA PAT is a transformer and is now ThinkCensorship,
Do your duty, FLAG the troll.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm#133 TROLL:
Is it misleading to not tell all the facts needed to make decisions regarding human life?
Would it be misleading of a Physician to not disclose to his patient all information regarding their health when the tests suggest otherwise?
Is it misleading to tell mom that there will be a parent at Susie’s house for the sleep over when you know you’re going over to Angie’s for a coed drinking binge?
Is it misleading to present only a prosecution in a trial?
And so I ask, HOW IS IT NOT MISLEADING that Bush “redacted” the information of 16 Intel agencies and their “opinion” that Saddam “might”(left unsaid ‘might not’) pose a threat in favor of two “opinions” “redacted” and skewed, presented as factual findings. Why omit other contradictory evidence if NOT to mislead?
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August 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 pmThinkCensorship: You might want to check archives of the very first week of “Press Briefings” (www.whitehouse.gov), during which the Press Secretary made it clear that the administration believed Saddam Hussein should be ousted.
This goal had nothing to do with 9-11.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:32 pmHi ThinkSocialist:
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:40 pmI agree in some ways socialism makes a lot of sense. ThinkInterStateHighwaySystem
Max-1,
As I suppose it was not misleading -let alone outright lying- for the Bush administration to call into question the work and integrity of the UN inspectors who were hunting for those mythical WMD in Iraq in the months prior to the invasion. The very same inspectors who called the intelligence provided by this administration “garbage”…
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pmHow ’bout, most recently, the illegal activities of the administration’s appointees in politicizing the Justice Department?
Ms. Goodling, Mr. Sampson, operating the look-the-other-way management of the Attorney General of the United States of America?
Part of the problem, sadly, is that this administration has had so many incidents of corruption that many Americans can’t get a grasp on the enormity of the illegality.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmThinkSocialist Says: The highway system is socialist? LOL
Yes. It is built and maintained by the government for public use with tax dollars paid by the peope in our society. That’s socialistic. It’s what Socialism (and Communism) is – collective ownership by the people.
Please learn to use “the google”
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmThinkSocialist:
You need look no further than the first “agreement” item to know you should’ve read before posting the comment that I am not a patriot. . . (unless you’re in no way connected to the blogger previously known as “US(A)Pat.”
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 pmThinkSocialist Says:
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Saddam’s WMD programs were not mythical, that is a complete lie. Why is Gregor so interested in defending Saddam Hussein with lies?
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Where , when and by whom were they found ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 pmThinkSocialist Says: Saddam’s WMD programs were not mythical, that is a complete lie.
Even USH said that there were no WMDs!
Sheesh.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 pmThanks for reminding us to FLAG you for spamming ThinkFascist.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:53 pmPatty,
Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, years before 9/11.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pmOpenDebate Says:
Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, years before 9/11.
So?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Patty,
Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, years before 9/11.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
When did Clinton illegally invade Iraq , USA_Putz ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pmThe people who said -and still say- Iraq had WMD are not telling the truth.
Flag the troll. Again.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmOpenDebate Says:
Anyone who says Iraq had no WMD programs is not telling the truth.
Using weasel word on Sunday? You’re going tho hell.
We all know there were no active WMD programs, and no viable weapons.
Is that what you meant?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Anyone who says Iraq had no WMD programs is not telling the truth.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Anyone ever find those WMD’s ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 pmOpen Debate, name number 4, lying sack of crap under any name. Go spew your lies somewhere people are dumb enough to believe you. Somewhere other neofascists hand out.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:07 pmYou’ll believe anything as long as a Republicans tells you so. Idiot troll.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Iraq had WMD, that is a fact. No serious person disputes that fact. They actually used WMD.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Yeah , the ones that Ronnie Retard , the mythical hero of the garbage GOP , gave to them ………….
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmShayne cannot point to any lie I have ever uttered. Incidentally, fascism is on your side, a form of socialism.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmOpenDebate Says:
Iraq had WMD, that is a fact. No serious person disputes that fact. They actually used WMD.
Except that the weapons were inert. I have more dangerous substances under my kitchen sink.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmOpenDebate Says:
Shayne cannot point to any lie I have ever uttered. Incidentally, fascism is on your side, a form of socialism.
Sad clown, you really have no idea how the world works do you?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pmThe weapons were not inert, that’s nonsense. Why do you feel compelled to defend Saddam?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:10 pmLots of violations of the Terms of Use. We’ll see how even-handed the moderators are.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmOpenDebate Says:
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The weapons were not inert, that’s nonsense. Why do you feel compelled to defend Saddam?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Why do you feel compelled to defend a habitual liar like Chimpy with lies ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmOpenDebate Says:
The weapons were not inert, that’s nonsense. Why do you feel compelled to defend Saddam?
Yes they were. I just have a problem with liars, that’s all.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:12 pmIn his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pmCIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq
Was the Clinton administration lying when they claimed for eight years that Iraq was a threat and a sponsor of terrorism?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pmMSNBC is not even close to being a credible source.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmCaption contest:
…And this is the first of many handjobs McCain has given Bush, in the last eight years.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Was the Clinton administration lying when they claimed for eight years that Iraq was a threat and a sponsor of terrorism?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
No
Because the weapons Saddam had received during Ronnie Retard’s and Shrub the 1st’s presidencies was within the time-frame of WMD’s remaining active ; WMD’s do not have a 15-20 year shelf-life ……….Get a clue.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pmFrom the NY Times last month:
But I guess it was all inert! LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pmOpenDebate Says:
No, of course they were not inert. What a ridiculous assertion. You might as well claim they were all made of cotton candy.
In the real world, chemical weapons don’t last forever, little one. Perhaps you should study the matter further, before opining.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pmThe MSNBC article was generated by the Associated Press and quotes the Duelfer Report.
Calling into question the contents of the article because MSNBC’s supposed “liberal bias” is the height of stupidity.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pmOpenDebate Says:
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MSNBC is not even close to being a credible source.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
But a pissant-site named “wingmenforbush” is ?
You are a colossal imbecile…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:19 pmGee, I wonder why Saddam had all that uranium? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:19 pmAmerican and Iraqi officials have completed nearly the last chapter in dismantling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program with the removal of hundreds of tons of natural uranium from the country’s main nuclear site.
But I guess it was all inert! LOL
The UN knew about that stuff before the invasion, and Bush never referenced this yellowcake, when making the case for war.
Poor, sad clown.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:20 pmFrom the NYT article:
Although the material cannot be used in its current form for a nuclear weapon or even a so-called dirty bomb, officials decided that in Iraq’s unstable environment, it was important to make sure it did not fall into the wrong hands.
U.S. Helps Remove Uranium From Iraq
The troll should learn to read past he headlines…
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:20 pmThe part you bolded “has found nothing” was from MSNBC, not from the Duelfer Report.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm221 total posts vs 166 displayed. Trolls must have gotten new orders this morning.
Site monitors need to be paid extra for having to deal with idiots like we have today?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm“cannot be used in its current form for a nuclear weapon or even a so-called dirty bomb” does not equal “inert”. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pmMore, from the same article:
The yellowcake removed from Iraq — which was not the same yellowcake that President Bush claimed, in a now discredited section of his 2003 State of the Union address, that Mr. Hussein was trying to purchase in Africa — is used in an early stage of the nuclear fuel cycle. Only after intensive processing does it become low-enriched uranium, which can fuel reactors producing power. Highly enriched uranium can be used in nuclear bombs.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pmThanks for reminding us Pres Bush misled the public, troll…
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pmOpenDebate Says:
The part you bolded “has found nothing” was from MSNBC, not from the Duelfer Report.
Which paraphrased the report, sad little clown.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pmPresident Bush did not mislead the public. Saddam did seek uranium in Africa.
“Which paraphrased the report, sad little clown.”
Which inaccurately paraphrased the report.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pmOpenDebate Says:
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“cannot be used in its current form for a nuclear weapon or even a so-called dirty bomb” does not equal “inert”. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Using nuclear power as a form of fuel (energy)is not the same as it being used as a weapon , nimrod …….LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pmRight, Saddam was only interested in nuclear power! LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pmOpenDebate Says:
barfly , you said he had none, but he had tons of uranium. Why don’t you just admit you lied and move on? LOL
I said he had no WMDs and that’s still the case – unless you’re arguing that RAW yellowcake uranium = usable WMD’s. Is that your assertion?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Right, Saddam was only interested in nuclear power! LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Right , you and Chimpy and Co have documentation that proves otherwise! LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:28 pmAh, so it depends on what the meanings of “none” and “inert” are? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:28 pmIs that your contention? That drums of unrefined yellocake was of itself a viable weapon?
How ridiculous.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:30 pmFrom the White House’s own web site, the admission that the claim that Saddam Hussein had sought Uranium from Niger was incorrect:
Now, we’ve long acknowledged — and this is old news, we’ve said this repeatedly — that the information on yellow cake did, indeed, turn out to be incorrect.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:30 pmPress Gaggle by Ari Fleischer
Gregor,
So it’s true just because Ari Fleischer said so? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Ah, so it depends on what the meanings of “none” and “inert” are? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
As opposed to the meanings of “nuclear power” and “nuclear weapon” are ? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 pmI’ve got a WMD right here, if I mix my kitchen chemicals correctly.
Will they be coming for me, next?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pmAnd this is a press conference with Condolezza Rice:
What we’ve said subsequently is, knowing what we now know, that some of the Niger documents were apparently forged, we wouldn’t have put this in the President’s speech — but that’s knowing what we know now.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pmPress Gaggle with Ari Fleischer and Dr. Condoleeza Rice
“none” and “itself a viable weapon” are not opposites. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pmThe report from British intelligence was not based on the forged documents though.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm#171 TROLL:
Why promote the “secured” yellow cake uranium by the IAEA back in the 90’s as Saddam’s WMD claim? It undercuts your credibility to assert that this yellow cake WAS that big bad WMD scare. See, the UN knew of this yellow cake uranium. Bush knew this too. Unfortunately, you don’t. So…
… you argue ignorance.
Yes, Saddam was a tyrant… but that wasn’t the intent of the AUMF of 2003.
Yes, Saddam once had used WMD’s on the Kurds… did you forget the Gulf War I and the dismantling of those WMD’s under Pappy Bush? Or have you forgotten that the USA originally sold Saddam those Mustard gas canisters and turned a blind eye when Saddam crafted delivery devices.
Remember, that wasn’t a vile of Freedom Powell held up at the U.N.
Remember, it wasn’t the State of the Union Address in 2002 where Bush promoted his Freedom agenda but instead proclaimed that Saddam was a threat to our security.
WHAT TIES TO AL-CIA-DUH?
WHAT IMMINENT THREAT?
WHAT TRUTH…?
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August 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pmAri Fleischer was the official voice of the White House, little idiotic troll.
What the White House spokeperson says is recognized as the official position of the administration in turn.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Gregor,
So it’s true just because Ari Fleischer said so? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 pm
No
It’s true because Chimpy and Co had always claimed the opposite ; and everyone knows they’re full of shit.
Well , you don’t , so I guess there are those “special few” that are purposely ignorant and just plain stupid……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmGregor must believe the Iraqis were in Niger to buy goats. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm“none” and “itself a viable weapon” are not opposites. LOL
You’re loopy.
Try making sense.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmSo then Gregor’s position is that the official White House statements are Gospel Truth. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pmOpenDebate Says:
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Gregor must believe the Iraqis were in Niger to buy goats. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
And who made the assertion that the Iraqis were in Niger ?
The Chimpy administration ?
A pillar of honesty and virtue there , huh ? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm“And who made the assertion that the Iraqis were in Niger ?”
Joe Wilson, among others. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pmOpenDebate Says:
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So then Gregor’s position is that the official White House statements are Gospel Truth. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
So you admit the White House is therefore full of shit …..
1st time you’ve gotten one correct
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 pmOpenDebate Says:
So then Gregor’s position is that the official White House statements are Gospel Truth. LOL
And you’re claiming they aren’t! If that isn’t a repudiation of the Bush rationale, what is?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 pmThe enthusiastic defense of Saddam Hussein by supposed Americans is really amazing.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pmGospel of truth? WTF?
Do you even know what in the world you are talking about anymore?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm#198 TROLL says:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/04/international/europe/04italy.html
You really are dense… NO?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:39 pmbarfly,
I don’t know of anyone who claims that the administration is correct 100% of the time. There is evidence that Iraq sought to buy uranium in Niger, that is a fact.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:39 pmMax, that doesn’t say the forged documents were the source used by the British. Are you really that dense?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:40 pmOpenDebate Says:
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“And who made the assertion that the Iraqis were in Niger ?”
Joe Wilson, among others. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Umm , no , he didn’t ………LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:41 pmGregor, you’re the one appealing to the authority of Ari Fleischer. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pmOpenDebate Says:
The enthusiastic defense of Saddam Hussein by supposed Americans is really amazing.
And the partisan bias is never far from the surface. Anyone who disagrees is now just nominally american, by some people’s judgements.
How conceited are you, sad clown?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pmOpenDebate Says:
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The enthusiastic defense of Saddam Hussein by supposed Americans is really amazing.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
The Chimpy adoration and lengths you will go to try and excuse-make for the worst president in US history are quite extraordinary and really galling and nauseating ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm#213 TROLL:
Then please provide that proof.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pmWhat “OTHER” Niger Documents were used?
OpenDebate Says:
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barfly,
I don’t know of anyone who claims that the administration is correct 100% of the time. There is evidence that Iraq sought to buy uranium in Niger, that is a fact.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Where ?
Fantasyland ?
Your imagination ?
What a lying sack of shit you are………..
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 pmFrom FactCheck.org:
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
OpenDebate Says:
I don’t know of anyone who claims that the administration is correct 100% of the time. There is evidence that Iraq sought to buy uranium in Niger, that is a fact.
Credible evidence? Remember Colin’s little speech, complete with stage prop? He knew at the time that the claim was dubious at best.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:45 pmButler Report: It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999.
But, I thought you were arguing that he already had yellowcake? Now why would he need more, if he already had a large quantity?
Please explain.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm#220 TROLL:
Of course you never read the rest of the 2005 NYT article… did you?
Conveniently, you avert our attention to a 2004 Factcheck as Gospel.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 pmCome, sad clown; have you lost your internet connection?
Speak up!
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pmTROLL belched:
Of course TROLL provides no evidence of these “other” Niger Documents that weren’t forged, proving his assertion.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:54 pmIs OpenDebate an oxymoronic name? I have an idea. Why not show real debate skills by arguing the opposite of the biased opinions one already holds
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pmHe’s loopy. First, he says that “Saddam tried to get Yellowcake from Niger,” then claims he had it all along.
Of course, he won’t see the contradiction.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:57 pmHow about switching from Yellow Cake to Anthrax. We need an “Open Debate” about this:
During the last week of October, 2001, ABC News, led by Brian Ross, continuously trumpeted the claim as their top news story that government tests conducted on the anthrax — tests conducted at Ft. Detrick — revealed that the anthrax sent to Daschele contained the chemical additive known as BENTONITE. ABC News, including Peter Jennings, repeatedly claimed that the presence of bentonite in the anthrax was compelling evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks, since — as ABC variously claimed — bentonite “is a trademark of Iraqi leader SADDAM HUSSEIN’S biological weapons program” and “only one country, Iraq, has used bentonite to produce biological weapons.”
ABC News’ claim — which they said came at first from “three well-placed but separate SOURCES,” followed by “four well-placed and separate SOURCES” — was completely FALSE from the beginning. There NEVER WAS any bentonite detected in the anthrax (a fact ABC News acknowledged for the first time in 2007 only as a result of my badgering them about this issue). It’s critical to note that it isn’t the case that preliminary tests really did detect bentonite and then subsequent tests found there was none. No tests ever found or even suggested the presence of bentonite. The claim was just concocted from the start. It just never happened.
That means that ABC News’ “four well-placed and separate sources” fed them information that was completely false — false information that created a VERY SIGNIFICANT LINK in the public mind between the anthrax attacks and Saddam Hussein.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html
So….Who were these Sources..who did they work for…and why won’t ABC reveal them??
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:59 pmdbadass,
“OpenDebate” is short for…
“I’ve been trolling for trouble and have been kicked and banned so many times that I have to resort to insulting sanity.”
USA_Pat
US_Pat
ThinkSocialist
ThinkFascist
OpenDebate
All the same person… A 13 year old without parental supervision.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:59 pmLots of name changing going on here today. Here a troll, there a troll, everywhere a troll!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pmdbadass,
Add to the list…
IThinkDoYou
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
Nothing says “I just got punked” like abandoning a screen name in the middle of a debate.
Loser.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:01 pmHi IThinkDoYou;
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pmIs that I question? If so I think lots, now what was it you were talking about….?
It’s not my fault the girlie-men of ThinkProgress can’t tolerate pissants.
Fixed it for you, no charge.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:04 pm#237 TROLL:
You violated the terms the moment you threw sand in our face. Because we throw it back at you, you Whhhhaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pmOh how zany…
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 pmSad clown knows Saddam already had enough yellowcake to refine into uranium – but suggests he somehow needed more?
Yet offers no explanation? That’s a sad comment on his debating chops. A store mannequin could do as well.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pm#241 TROLL says:
What are you talking about… this inane comment of your’s?
Your a Loyal WhhhaaaaaPublican, aren’t you?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Looks like MCMetal and Gregor both ran off as soon as I proved they’re lying.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
1st off , I don’t lie ; I’m not a Republican or a GOP backer
2nd I would never be “run off” by a pansy GOP/Chimpy nut hugging moron who has proven nothing but his continuing idiocy in defending the worst president and administration in US history.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:14 pmIn 2000 I proudly wore an ABBB pin which stood for AnyBody But Bush! I’ve been calling him a c0cksu(king liar and loser phuckhead from day one!
What took y’all so long to catch on?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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How would I know Saddam’s inner thoughts? That doesn’t change the fact that he sought uranium in Niger. Why not just admit you’re not telling the truth? Be honest.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
“Be honest” states the d-bag who is trying to defend the most dishonest president and administration in US history ; boy , that’s rich ………
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pmJust picture him dressed in his clown-garb, with a sign on the front that says, “Saddam tried to buy yellowcake from Niger,” and one on the back that says, “Saddam already had yellocake.” A curious passerby might think, “what the hell is this, some new marketing ploy?” and then walk away, since the store-dummy can’t speak.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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dixie,
Juvenile name-calling is nothing to brag about.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Lying to try and defend the most unintelligible imbecile to ever foul the Oval Office is even less to brag about……
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pm#248 TROLL:
PROVE Saddam sought Yellow Cake uranium from Niger.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmWHAT “other” documents support your claims. Not hearsay factcheck articles that are shot down a year later by the Italian Government. You keep saying that Saddam was seeking Uranium from Niger… PROVE IT!
IThinkDoYou Says:
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MC,
Calling me names won’t change the facts I’ve posted here today.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
You’re absolutely correct ; and as soon as you post a legitimate fact , I may stop calling you them ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmI used to ask my friends why are you going to vote for someone dumber than me?
And then I would point out that he’s failed or under performed or went AWOL in every task he’s been given in his entire lameass life.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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No one would ever try to buy more of something they already had! never! LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Maybe ; maybe not.
Do you believe that proves your assertion that Iraq/Saddam tried to purchase yellowcake from Niger? It doesn’t ……….LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:24 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Max cannot post any refutation of the Butler report.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I can
Joe Wilson’s report
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:24 pmHi IThinkDoYou:
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:25 pmIs there an implied negative connotation in that name? Just wondering. Weird mistaken confidence is an interesting characteristic
Calling posters here hypocrites and cowards doesn’t make it so. If they truly were hypocrites and cowards they would be Republicans. Example George W. Bush life long hypocrite and coward also life long Republican.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
But, I was right! GW Botch is a c0cksu(king Liar and LOser Piece of Sh|t!
Regardless of the names I use, I’m right!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
How would I know Saddam’s inner thoughts? That doesn’t change the fact that he sought uranium in Niger. Why not just admit you’re not telling the truth? Be honest.
A honest intellect would acknowledge the apparent contradiction, instead of offering a rhetorical shoulder-shrug.
Since Saddam had yellowcake in the quantities listed, he wouldn’t need to find more, to begin refining; but if he was afraid to access the stored Iraqi yellowcake – and give the US a reason to invade – then why would he give them an even larger reason, by attempting to procure more, knowing we would likely find out?
Address that if you can, and not with some vague, “who knows?”
Your facts are contradictory, and you look foolish for not acknowledging that.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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And then I would point out that he’s failed or under performed or went AWOL in every task he’s been given in his entire lameass life.
Unless you count graduating from Yale, graduating from Harvard Business School, winning two terms as governor of Texas, and winning two terms as president.
Which Ivy League school did you attend dixie? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He didn’t graduate based upon merit or hard work from either Yale or Harvard , nimrod ; nor did he “win” the presidency.
And he won the governship of Texas because of his last name ; and well , quite frankly , because it is Texas ……..Not exactly a bastion of great thinkers there.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pmLooks like MCMetal and Gregor both ran off as soon as I proved they’re lying.
~IThinkDoYou
I didn’t “run off”. I have much better things to do than to argue with a fact-challenged moron like you, IThinkNotButYouDo.
And you still have to provide evidence for all the babble you have spewed all over this thread.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:31 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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MC, what Joe Wilson Report? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
The verbal report he gave that proved the Iraq/Saddam/Niger yellowcake story was simply that ; a story.
Though , obviously , some sorry sack of crap loser that is part of the retarded 19% Chimpy Adoration Brigade , refuses to acknowledge that ……..LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 pmIThink, CIA’s John McLaughlin disputed Butler Report’s conclusion regarding Niger.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm#259 TROLL:
Truly you are dense.
A year later the Italian Government admits the Niger Document cited IN the Butler report were frauds.
So, to summarize:
It’s o.k. to defend the use of fraudulent documents as long as it makes your case stronger…. YES?
Of course you’re at odds with the concept of the Dulfer Report or the findings of Hans Blix or the 2005 NYT article I posted becuse they don’t jive with “your” truths…
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pmWhat sensors? I thought the topic was Bush’s false claims of bringing respect back to the White House. You are seriously off topic.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm“Calling me names won’t change the facts…”
This line reminds me of another low-IQ troll from way back when. He used to go by the name of wwallace back then.
All these years, and the troll hasn’t aged beyond 15.
Flag the troll.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pmLOL is so ninth grade G2G
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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I’ll bet MC couldn’t get admitted to his local community college. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Which means you’ve just lost all your Monopoly money ; because it’s highly unlikely an ignoramus of your stature has any type of lucrative portfolio.
LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pmIThinkDoYou Sh|ts:
“Unless you count graduating from Yale,”
He got in on his families name, and cheated his way to a phucking C avg. That’s a Yale, cheerleader, frat boy funny pants guy!
Graduating from Harvard Business School with the help of his family again and cheating his way through!
“winning two terms as governor of Texas”
He was a figure head in TX. The Lt Gov is the executive in that state, but, you’re too stupid know that!!
“and winning two terms as president.”
He didn’t win the first or second term MORON!!!! They were both stolen!!!
His Daddies Supreme Corrupt Court gave him the first term and he stole the second in Ohio and other states with corrupt voting machines!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:36 pmHans Blix has more integrity in his pinky finger than the combined GOP. Lie upon lie upon lie…so much for honor and dignity. The GOP has abandoned all sense of honor or dignity and instead adopted Greed, Jingoism, and arrogance as the three legged stool it sits on.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pmThe only one lying here is you , Chimpy Adoration Brigade member ; btw , you’ve gotten your stupid ass kicked a lot , haven’t you ?
It shows…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
barfly cannot begin to explain why it’s contradictory.
You’re just a lamb, trying to be a ram.
I just did explain, but at this point its clear you’re not an honest intellect, so it would be a waste of keystrokes to show you your error. If you don’t have the ability to see such things for yourself, no amount of coaching will overcome your functional disability, sorry.
But I will have fun poking you in the chops, and watch as you change screen names like a punked b*tch.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pmAnd I proved the troll lied because the CIA’s own report stated Saddam had no WMD. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmIThink, So you think our CIA is inferior to the British politicians who issued the Butler Report?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmStole the election in Ohio???You must be meth head…
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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dixie,
Right after you provide evidence for your silly assertions, I’ll prove you’re a meth addict, deal?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Chimpy was DENIED entrance into Texas University because of sub-par grades ; you’re going to try and tell us now that getting into a state university is more difficult or prestigious than getting into an Ivy League school ?
Must be tough to believe your own insane bullshit…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pmW looked soooo dignified reading My Three Goats while the country he was supposedly responsible for was under attack.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pmFor all the troll’s sin and lies, fact remains no WMD were found in Iraq. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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MC, I’ll offer you the same deal as dixie.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
See post #296 ; and I’ve never done meth .
I’m not a GOP backing preacher into gay male prostitutes …
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pmAnd fact remains the troll hasn’t denied having sex with animals. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmaceomalley7, Either a methhead or someone who’s done some reading on the subject.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmC’mon, troll.
Post a link to pictures of those stockpiles of WMD that Saddam had.
Because they were found, right? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmIThinkDoYou is a useless troll..no facts..no history..no brains..NOTHING!
DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS TROLL. HE DUMBER THAN GW BOTCH!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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In fact, the Director of the CIA said it was a “slam dunk” case that Iraq had WMD. So the truth is the opposite of what Gregor claimed. No surprise there.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
No
The truth is actually the opposite of what George Tenet claimed ……It was no “slam dunk” and there were no WMD’s in Iraq.
And what you have claimed is complete bullshit , too
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pmJohn McLaughlin , former Deputy Director and interim Director, was testifying specifically about the Butler Report’s conclusion regarding uranium from Niger.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:49 pmSuch a dignified administration…..outing a CIA agent for politically motivated retribution….and about W’s promise to fire anybody involved…..more GOP “honor” and “Dignity”…..
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:49 pmHi IThinkDoYou:
As a student of behavior I am intrigued by your post which I have taken the liberty of copying below…
“In fact, the Director of the CIA said it was a “slam dunk” case that Iraq had WMD. So the truth is the opposite of what Gregor claimed. No surprise there.
The last sentence is the part which I find interesting. In your mind why do you felt the need to add this? Thank you for your thoughtful reply as it will assist in my current research
thanks again-
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:49 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Gregor, post a link to where I said he had “stockpiles” or admit you lied.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Can’t point to any of your posts , because they keep getting removed because of lack of honesty/being outright bullshit………
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pmIThinkNotButYouDo, post a link to those Iraqi WMD or admit you lied.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmI love it when a troll starts in with Gregor Samsa (one of my favorites here) because this troll is about to get his fact missing a$$hat handed back to him in a very intelligent and polite way!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmIThinkNotButYouDo, uranium is not a weapon of mass destruction.
It can be made into one.
C’mon. Put up or shut up.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“Post a link to pictures of those stockpiles of WMD that Saddam had. ”
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/ images/ 2008/ 07/ 07/ world/ 07iraq-span-600.jpg
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Uranium used for nuclear power (fuel) IS NOT a WMD , chucklehead…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
barfly, You did not explain. People buy more of things they already have some of all the time.
Ok. Do “people” also have a world body (the UN) who prohibits them from using these “things they already have?”
Saddam could access this yellowcake (not uranium) stored in country at any time — but didn’t, for fear of being deposed in an invasion, for violating UN strictures against using it. He knew his regime would be torched if he were found to have accessed the stuff (we knew where it was stored, and were watching for this eventuality), and knew that we had a heightened cooperation from other countries, and any purchase would be discovered by the US, and used as a pretext for invasion (which it was). He also knew that his WMD threat was a bluff, which would be exposed, should he try to use the chemical and biological stuff, which was largely inert.
In this context, there is no reason (at least none given by the sad clown) why he would do it.
Zip.
Nada.
Zilcho.
Next?
Do “things they already have” have
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm#314 Moron,
That’s a photo of people in hazmat suits. It proves nothing about WMD you complete dumba$$!
You still owe proof you know, because this lame-o GW Botch sh|t doesn’t work here…
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pmThe first step towards making any substance into a WMD is to have a method of delivery.
C’mon, troll. Where are those long-range distance nuclear warheads that Saddam had?
Put up or shut up.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“uranium is not a weapon of mass destruction.”
Only for those like you who trust Saddam Hussein to do he right thing. But the President was right not to trust him. The world is now a better place, and Iraq is now a better place, without your man Saddam Hussein in it.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
And the world will be a MUCH better place when everyone in the Chimpy administration isn’t in it any longer…….
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pmNobody trusted Saddam to do the “right thing”, IThinkNotButYouDo.
That’s why the inspections were in place. Duh.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Meth man MC cannot provide any evidence at all that Saddam had that uranium for nuclear power.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Gay prostitute client USA_Putz can’t provide any evidence that Saddam had any WMD’s ; because it doesn’t exist…….
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:00 pmBloodthirsty war of aggression really brings Honor and Dignity to the White House. This administration will be the shame of the USA for generations to come.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:01 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Meth man MC cannot provide any evidence at all that Saddam had that uranium for nuclear power.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
BTW
IThinkURAD0uche
That pic is accompanied by the story that the uranium being removed was for nuclear power ; the link and pic that YOU PROVIDED , chowderhead………..
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:02 pmC’mon, troll. How do you deliver a Weapon of Mass Destruction to do what it does best -that is mass destruct, if you do not have a way to put it anyplace where it can actually mass destruct anything?
C’mon. Stop babbling. Put up or shut up.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pmThe moonbats are hilarious
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pmOver ONE MILLION dead Iraqis.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Saddam was not fully cooperating with the inspectors, hence the invasion. Duh.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You lying sack of crap ; Chimpy had the UN inspectors REMOVED so they couldn’t finish their inspection(s) ……..Liar
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pminflated ego Says:
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The moonbats are hilarious
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
The Chimpy Adoration Brigade members are still retarded……
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pmWeren’t those inspectors part of the UN that the right despises so? Damn it is convenient to select just the shit ya like when it serve a predetermined agenda…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pmAnd fact remains that no WMD have been found since the invasion. Duh.
Uranium is not a WMD. Duh.
C’mon. Where are those WMD that can be deployed within 45 minutes of an order?
C’mon. Stop babbling. Put up or shut up.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
Prove it. Your assertion is complete nonsense.
Coming from you, that’s a high compliment, indeed!
You’ve done nothing but run away every time I try to debate with you, sad clown.
What’s your next screen name going to be, after this round?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pmbarfly Says:
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IThinkDoYou Says:
What’s your next screen name going to be, after this round?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Ted Haggard , Jr…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:07 pmDepleted Uranium babies will be the Bush legacy.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pmHans Blix asked for more time be given to his team so the inspections could be carried to their conclusion.
Pres Bush had the inspection team removed from Iraq because he was going to launch the invasion in 2003.
That is a well-documented fact. Duh.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pminflated ego Says:
Freidian Slip, magnitude 8.8 on the irony scale.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pmIThink, Please share your vision of the future based on the Bush legacy?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“And fact remains that no WMD have been found since the invasion. Duh. ”
Still not true.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
And you still haven’t posted a link that refutes that ; your claiming it , doesn’t make it true (in fact , being a Chimpy Adoration Brigade member as you are , makes it the exact opposite)
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pmI really like the part where a request is made to prove that you need a delivery system for a wmd. It is so stupid as to be hilarious. Even a suitcase nuke has a delivery system. It is the freakin’ suitcase for god’s sake. Wow the thought process is so random…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pmSo sad clown’s whole rebuttal is:
So?
How friggin lame.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:11 pmbarfly Says:
What’s your next screen name going to be, after this round?
She/he/it sounds a lot like Exlaxly, sEXXiON and MightyA$$OhMighty!!
They just can’t buy a clue with a $100 in thier hand at the pawn shop.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:12 pmBefore you said the method of delivery had to be developed FIRST.
~IThinkDoYou
Every time in human history that a new weapon is developed, it is delivered on an already existing delivery method. The first nuclear bomb was delivered with a B29.
The method of delivery has to exist first. What good does it do to have a brand new type of bomb that can kill millions at a time, if you cannot drop it on your ennemies’ heads, and will have to gather dust until you figure out a way to get it over there? Duh.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:12 pmShe/he/it sounds a lot like Exlaxly,
The others, perhaps. But this one isn’t as educated as the X-man. They’re both hopelessly overmatched of course, but the style hasn’t the same haughty paternalism of the X-trovert.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:17 pmC’mon troll. Where were those Iraqi WMD.
Or were you trying to tell me that Saddam was planning on having a few Iraqi scientists deliver, by hand, bucketfulls of uranium while wearing funny suits?
Yeah, I can imagine the devastating attack because, you know, men in funny suits carrying buckets of goo are oh so difficult to spot. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm#350,
You’re right…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm“Who said that? I didn’t.”
Than why respond?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pmYet you can’t explain this ridiculous assertion. Of course a method of delivery could be developed second.
~IThinkNotButYouDo
Yeah, because that’s how people proceed: Invent a devastating new weapon that has to wait years, perhaps decades, to be useful in any way on a battlefield because there is no way to deliver it.
It takes a certain kind of stupid to even consider the possibility -and by that, I mean you, IThinkNotButYouDo.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pmWhat is the matter, troll?
Am I typing too fast for you? Here, once again:
Uranium. Is. Not. A. WMD.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:24 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“Where were those Iraqi WMD.”
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 07/ 07/ world/ middleeast/ 07iraq.html
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Again
Nuclear energy that is used as a F-U-E-L IS NOT classified as a WMD , you mental furball………….
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:24 pmOops I did it again…
IThinkDoYou Says:
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“The first step towards making any substance into a WMD is to have a method of delivery.”
Prove it. Your assertion is complete nonsense.
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I am sort of interested in the use of this phrase:
“without your man Saddam”
Might you want to explain it?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:25 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“The method of delivery has to exist first.”
Yet you can’t explain this ridiculous assertion. Of course a method of delivery could be developed second. What you’re saying is characteristically idiotic.
This troll is very tiring. All of the nuclear nations built missiles first. Why build a bomb if it can’t fired at some nation somewhere on Earth?
IT’S LIKE A BULLET WITHOUT A GUN MORON!!!
WHO’S STUPID NOW!!!
TAG YOU’RE IT!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:25 pmYeah, I can imagine the devastating attack because, you know, men in funny suits carrying buckets of goo are oh so difficult to spot. LOL.
Knock… knock…
Who’s there?
Publisher’s Clearing House, and you’re our grand prize winner!
[opens door]
Gaaack! What’s this stuff?
Die imperialist dog! [runs to waiting van, carrying empty bucket]
Step on it!
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:25 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Given Saddam’s demonstrated intentions, and support for terrorist groups, it would have been foolish to wait until he had a deliverable nuke. The world is better off without your man Saddam still in power.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
And the world will be MUCH BETTER OFF after January of 2009 with Obama as president and without your retarded simian deity still in power.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmGregor, who said anything about inventing anything? We’re talking about existing technology.
~IThinkNotButYouDo
Thanks for admitting the method of delivery has to exist first.
I am glad you stopped babbling and finally agreed.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pm#361, IThinkDoYou Says:
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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MC still has not posted a shred of evidence to suggest Saddam had that uranium for fuel. None.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Yeah you’re right ; outside of the link and pic you provided and keep pointing to that proves my contention and not your asinine one …………..
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmAnd IThinkNotButYouDo still hasn’t posted as single shred of evidence that Saddam had that uranium for building WMD. None. Only innuendo and his “opinion”.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmIThinkINoticeSomeoneToScaredToRespond
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmA simple question.
Has Bush ever said anything that wasn’t a lie?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmIThinkINeedAnotherO
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:29 pmThe United States didn’t. We didn’t launch a missile at Hiroshima, you fool. LOL
Of course not, you babbling fool.
The US delivered it with an existing method of delivery at the time -that is a long range bomber.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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MC still has not posted a shred of evidence to suggest Saddam had that uranium for fuel. None.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 07/ 07/ world/ middleeast/ 07iraq.html
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:31 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Has Bush ever said anything that was a lie?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Yeah
When he swore an oath to the office of the presidency …..That was the 1st of many
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pmHas Bush ever said anything that wasn’t a lie?
“I’m, I’ve, I’d, or I” is about it.
And even then you’d have to check the context.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pmIThink, Don’t you just hate it when people deny how great the future’s gonna be thanks to Bush? Ingrates!
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
Of course a method of delivery could be developed second. What you’re saying is characteristically idiotic.
But the White House said they HAD the delivery system. They lied. This was one of 935 recorded lies. Do you ever read the real news–or just FOX and LGF?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pmIn IThinkNotButYouDo’s version of history. the B29 was developed after Fat Boy was built, and when US was scrambling to figure out how to drop the bomb on Japan. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pmRight, we should have trusted you man in Iraq. LOL
~IThinkNotButYouDo
Well, where is that evidence?
Or should I also believe Saddam ate children for breakfast because he was an evil person?
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe everything you are told without asking for evidence. LOL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm“trying to acquire uranium from Africa” and “aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons” were both known lies eleven months before they were said in the Jan 2003 State of the Union.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pmKeith, there’s no evidence the administration lied.
Here it comes…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:38 pmIThinkNotButYouDo,
So your contention now is that Iraq had air-to-ground missiles? Dumb bombs that could be dropped from airplanes?
Ok.
Where are those pictures?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm#369,
I should have added since WWII. And we were working on missile tech back then…
My basic point still stands:
You can’t fly a WMD into another country with a military attack (airplane) in the modern nuclear age.
It takes missles…(A DELIVERY SYSTEM MORON!)
Oh…and that stupid a$$ suitcase sh|t the RePugniScums like you keep repeatin’ is not exactly like taking out a major population!!!
It’s not WMD…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
Keith, there’s no evidence the administration lied.
You are saying there are not 935 RECORDED lies? Futher proof that the most populous state is the State Of Denial.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:40 pmNot to mention the no-flight zones and the constant UK-US joint patrols on Iraqi air space would have made impossible an Iraqi sortie with the intention of dropping bombs anywhere in the world…
Then again, and I will repeat myself here, it takes a special kind of stupid to believe something without asking for evidence…
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pmIThinkSomeoneMightBeAPussy
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pmOr should I also believe Saddam ate children for breakfast because he was an evil person?
He ordered Kuwaiti preemies dumped from incubators onto the floor, and gave money to the families of Palestinian bombers, remember ;)
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pmIThink, Isn’t it sad how President Bush was so traumatized by Pat Tillman’s death? He couldn’t even remember when he found out it was “friendly fire” that put three bullets in Tillman’s forehead.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
Not much , obviously , but a lot of lies in defense of the indefensible…………..
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pmAnd there was intel indicating the tubes were suitable for making weapons.
That’s “conflicting” intel – but since you’ve only told half the story throughout, this is just par for the winger course.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:47 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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The same people like Gregor who wanted to leave Saddam in power opposed the sanctions and the no-fly zones.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Yeah , because 6 years , trillions of dollars and a million or so lives later , it was all such a “noble cause” …………
You’re a Chimpy nut hugging lying dipshit
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:47 pmOooohhh…. I understand now….
IThinkNotButYouDo believes that Iraqi men in funny suits would have boarded Iraq Airways airplanes, then rolled down the windows to drop the buckets of goo when flying over, oh say, Jerusalem…
Yeah, that makes a looot of sense… if your only contact with reality is through Austin Powers kind of movies… LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Keith,
No, Iraq did try to acquire uranium from Africa.
Yellowcake uranium….ohhh..soooo…dangerous….
And there was intel indicating the tubes were suitable for making weapons.
That’s been debunked so many times in the past several years that I’ve to ask if you were “home schooled?” You sure are stupid and poorly informed!!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:50 pmThe Niger document was a poor forgery that anyone with half a brain could discover in one minute. The letterhead was stolen from the Niger Embassy in Rome. But who did the forgery? Michael Ledeen? There was false intel that the tubes were suitable for nuclear weapons, but the false intel came from Feith’s Office of Special Plans.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:50 pmIThinkItIsPrettyClearSomeoneIsAPussy:
Now about the lack of honesty exposed in #362?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmOr perhaps the troll would care to stop babbling and post pictures to those warheads that couldn’t be delivered because Saddam didn’t have the means to.
There was a little war missing in those warheads.
I bet Saddam used them as cute little paperweights while he figured out a way to drop them on his enemies. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmC’mon troll. Where are the pictures to those evil WMD?
C’mon. Put up or shut up.
In case you have already forgotten: Uranium. Is. Not. A. WMD.
Thank you.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:54 pmOur Troll is the BIFF miester.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:54 pmYo BIFFY, make sure to tell Mommy to turn on the de-humidifier. Dont want those Cheetos getting all soggy down there in the basement now do ya?
IThinkDoYou Says:
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barfly,
intel is always conflicting. The consensus view was that Iraq was a threat.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm
You need a helluva lot more than a “consensus” when you invade a sovereign nation , dimwit ; you better be 100 goddamned percent certain , before you put multitudes of lives at risk along with our entire economy .
Not go on the “hunch” of an unintelligible moron who was never in a combat or foreign crisis situation ……………….
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmITinkle can’t putup and can’t shutup. That’s a completely foolish tactic, but there it is.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:57 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Gregor seems to be arguing that a nation is proved not to be a threat if there are no pictures publicly available on the Internet. That’s a completely foolish argument, but there it is.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Because it makes more sense to take the word of a life-long failure who possesses the intelligence of a retarded garden slug ?
Your argument is even more foolish , if not borderline insane…….
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmIThink, The relevance is that Bush used Tillman as a recruitment device, and lied about his death to continue to use him. If you research Tillman, you might find more relevance.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Gregor thinks we should have trusted Saddam, I don’t agree.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Who gives a shit ?
You and the neocons and this garbage administration have been proven wrong and/or liars , every time ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmITink=Biff=Moron=FLAG THE TROLL
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmThe Handy Reference Guide to Bush Disasters, Incompetencies, and Lies
by Guy Reel
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/13/8923/
and
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/29/9969/
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmGregor seems to be arguing that a nation is proved not to be a threat if there are no pictures publicly available on the Internet.
~IThinkNotButYouDo
Thanks for admitting you have absolutely no evidence. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Rien de rien.
That’s a completely foolish argument, but there it is.
Actually, it isn’t. It’s completely sensible to ask for evidence to corroborate Bush’s claims that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD.
The only foolish argument is to ask people believe what you say based solely on… well, nothing except your word.
And with that, I leave to take my family to the movies.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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The only way to have 100% certainty would be after an attack.
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Or to let the weapons inspectors finish their job(s) ; the Iraq resolution said “force as a last resort”.
That didn’t happen………………
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmJanuary 23, 2008
President George W. Bush and seven of his administration’s top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.
http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Right, believing the assessments of the worldwide intelligence community is borderline insane, but looking for pictures on the Internet is definitive. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Who the hell is talking about pictures on the internet , you cackling skid mark ?
Are you retarded ?
BTW
The assessments of the worldwide intelligence community was nowhere near unanimous ; that isn’t enough to start sacrificing and extinguishing lives , you Chimpy adoring tool……
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:05 pmAt this point, it might help with the republican campaign fund-raising problem if they converted the Graveyard of Conservative Values into a golf course.
Just envision yourself, doing chip shots over the Tomb of Fiscal Prudence, or driving a long one, past The Pool of Law, with it’s garden-hosed-and-full-body-shackled Lady Justice, being waterboarded, amidst a floral display of potted republican Prima Donnas, and hackberry Bushes.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:05 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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There’s no evidence Bush ever lied about Tillman.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm
There’s no evidence that he ever told the truth , either , Chimpy ball monger……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pmDo you know who DID have WMD in March 2003? The US had 24,000 TONS of Sarin VX, and mustard agents. Anniston, Alabama had 77,000 rockets filled with these agents.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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Keith, statements that turn out later to be incorrect are not lies. You’re the one spreading lies.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Okay , so instead of being dishonest , we can just say the Chimpy administration is completely incompetent …….
That make you feel better ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:08 pmRandonChaos:
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:08 pmI say let them ride out their run. They have withstood countless blows to both lack of substance and blind ideological absurdity already. I say let them ride the wave. At least they seem to know the danger zones
Does the troll really believe that, had the Bush administration found the WMD in Iraq, they wouldn’t have trotted the WMD in front of everyone and wouldn’t have plastered pictures in every conceivable newspaper or web site? I mean, this was only their central rationale for the invasion.
Is IThinkNotButYouDo really this stupid?
The answer, of course, is yes. It is not an act.
Now I really have to go.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pmIThinkNotButYouDo,
That is not me you are responding to. Learn to read.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:10 pmITinkleDoYou is a closeted Gay republican in Love with the Shrub. Wishing for a threesome with DC and KKKRove.
My apologies to any Gay people I may have offended.
There are no pictures on the internet to disprove this claim, but it is true.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:10 pmIThinkYouKnowItIsBestToAvoidThatWhichFrightensAndConfusesYou
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:10 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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“Who the hell is talking about pictures on the internet , you cackling skid mark ?”
Gregor. Can’t you read?
And “unanimous” and “consensus” are not synonyms, you illiterate. LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pm
“MCMetal” and “Gregor” are not synonyms , you Hooked On Phonics drop-out.LOL
And BTW
A “consensus” is less than a “unanimous” verdict , which is what I said it should have taken you reading and comprehension challenged dipshit ; and which makes my argument even stronger and your Chimpy adoration even more blatant and your argument even less sensical (as if that were even possible)……….
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:13 pmGregor Samsa Says:
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Does the troll really believe that, had the Bush administration found the WMD in Iraq, they wouldn’t have trotted the WMD in front of everyone and wouldn’t have plastered pictures in every conceivable newspaper or web site? I mean, this was only their central rationale for the invasion.
Is IThinkNotButYouDo really this stupid?
The answer, of course, is yes. It is not an act.
That needed repeating in BOLD for the MORON TROLL!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:14 pmKeith seems to be equating America and Iraq under Saddam Hussein. How patriotic. LOL
Sad clown seems to be equating supporting Bush policies with patriotism, when conservatives savaged Clinton policies, and no one ever claimed they were unpatriotic for doing so.
That’s the mark of a true hypocrite.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:15 pmIThinkDoYou Says:
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So any administration that relied on intelligence from the CIA was by definition incompetent? Is that your standard MC?
Thank you for implicitly acknowledging that they didn’t lie though, that’s progress.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
No
It’s when any administration has gone through its entire tenure without 1 success , as this one has.
Now , all we need is to get you to ‘progress’ in admitting this administration is awful …………..Because it most certainly is.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pmITinkle,
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pmThanks for proving my point.
IThinkDoYou Says:
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It’s funny how often liberals resort to gay-bashing when they can’t support an argument. It’s very telling.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
As opposed to lying constantly to support their argument like you have ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pmBy Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
January 23, 2008
President George W. Bush and seven of his administration’s top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.
On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration’s case for war.
It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose “Duelfer Report” established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq’s nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.
In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false statements, according to this first-ever an_lysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:19 pmIThinkSomeoneHasBeenPnkedSoMuchThatTheyAReRelyingOnSissyTheTryToIgnoreItApproach
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:19 pmplease switch The and Sissy and if you feel like it make it a lowercase r
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pmITinkle. POOF Gone
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pmImDinkNotYou,
Have you ever thought about looking at the “Recommend” numbers for each link and considered that your comments get Zippo, Nada, Nothing compared to the intelligent posters here?
Look around, you’re embarrasing yourself, your family and your brain!! Sad!
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:22 pmBoy George’s success, for the GOP:
“We’re gonna lose HOW many Senate seats? Holy crap! I wonder if my family will let me spend more time with them ….”
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:23 pmIThink, Bush said Tillman died a hero, bravely facing enemy fire. Come to think of it, Bush wasn’t lying. Tillman was a hero for giving up pro football to defend the U.S. and he was a hero for bravely speaking out against the Iraq war, and those who killed him definitely were his enemy. Try reading about Tillman. Try reading more about Iraq and WMD. Did you ever hear of Scott Ritter? Reading improves thinking, especially if you are willing to read from more than just the source(s) you know you already believe and agree with. Also, proof of everything isn’t always available, but that doesn’t mean you have to reject common sense.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:23 pmDixie, I think it will be a minute or two. It has to come up with a new Moniker. Then it will be back spewing crap and lies again.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:24 pmPresident Bush, for example, made 232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq’s links to Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Powell had the second-highest total in the two-year period, with 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq’s links to Al Qaeda. Rumsfeld and Fleischer each made 109 false statements, followed by Wolfowitz (with 85), Rice (with 56), Cheney (with 48), and McClellan (with 14).
The massive database at the heart of this project juxtaposes what President Bush and these seven top officials were saying for public consumption against what was known, or should have been known, on a day-to-day basis. This fully searchable database includes the public statements, drawn from both primary sources (such as official transcripts) and secondary sources (chiefly major news organizations) over the two years beginning on September 11, 2001. It also interlaces relevant information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches, and interviews.
Consider, for example, these false public statements made in the run-up to war:
On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: “Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us.” In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney’s assertions went well beyond his agency’s assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, “Our reaction was, ‘Where is he getting this stuff from?’ ”
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:24 pmIn the closing days of September 2002, with a congressional vote fast approaching on authorizing the use of military force in Iraq, Bush told the nation in his weekly radio address: “The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given. . . . This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one within a year.” A few days later, similar findings were also included in a much-hurried National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction — an an_lysis that hadn’t been done in years, as the intelligence community had deemed it unnecessary and the White House hadn’t requested it.
In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: “Sure.” In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of “compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda.” What’s more, an earlier DIA assessment said that “the nature of the regime’s relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear.”
Dang that world “an_lysis”.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm387. Keith Says:
And if ya LIKED Boy George, yer gonna LOVE –
http://www.geeknuz.com/nuz/images/2008/03/06/mcbush_2.jpg
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pmjonny, that picture gave me the creeps.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:29 pmProAmerica Says:
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Hypocrites.
http://thinkprogress.org/index.php/terms
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Anti-American liar ………
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:37 pmHi ProAmerica
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmHi ProAmerica
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmProAmerica, You can’t prove that we’re all part of someone else’s dream. Where’s your proof?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmProAmerica Says:
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Keith,
Documenting some incorrect statements does nothing to prove anyone lied.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
It sure doesn’t make them seem honest either , Chimpy tool……
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmProAmerica, What do think Bush’s biggest contribution to a bright future is?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:41 pmSee Dixie, I told you it would be back.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:42 pmHi ProAmerica! Aka Biff, Aka ITinkle, Aka Lying sack of Sh1t.
Pro, It’s dishonest to cherry-pick information.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:42 pm390. Keith Says:
jonny, that picture gave me the creeps.
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Ain’t it cool? ;) Just tryna help it go viral.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pmIs “ProAmerica” the new moniker for IThinkDoYou? Seems stupid enough to me to fill the job…
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pmProAmerica Says:
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Why? Why is it dishonest to rely on the assessments of the CIA? It may be wrong, but why would it be considered dishonest?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:40 pm
You don’t rely on 1 source for a decision as big as invading a sovereign nation ; especially when their assessment is in line with what a group that includes a large part of your administration in PNAC , is blatantly searching for , to start shit anywhere in the Middle East…………
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pmGeesh, I said it twice you’d think a polite person would receive a greeting…
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pmPro, Try two or three, if you please.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pmProAmerica Says:
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RandomChaos demonstrates the kind of tolerance, manners and civility one associates with the left today.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Yeah , nothing like Limpballs , O’Lielly or Dickhead Cheney , who appear as they were all the off-spring of Miss Manners.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:46 pmPA demonstrates the kind of intolerance, blind belief, and ignorance one associates with the reichwing today.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:46 pmProAmerica Says:
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They didn’t rely on one source, they relied on the consensus, a broad consensus.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:46 pm
And I already explained this to you : A consensus is nowhere near enough to invade a sovereign nation and extinguish many lives ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:48 pmPro, I never did find out if IThink has ever heard of Scott Ritter. Have you?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmProAmerica Says:
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Three:
Preventing another terrorist attack on the United States since 9/11.
Ending Taliban rule and bringing democracy to Afghanistan.
Ending the Hussein tyranny and bringing democracy to Iraq.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Looks as though Chimpy and Co are 0-for-3 on your list there …..At least they’re consistent.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmPA,
WORST
PRESIDENT
EVER
FACT
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm410. ProAmerica Says:
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They didn’t rely on one source, they relied on the consensus, a broad consensus.
Yeah. Sure. Manufactured, of course:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Gleiwitz-incident
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:51 pmProAmerica Says:
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Three:
Preventing another terrorist attack on the United States since 9/11.
THEY DIDN’T PREVENT THE FIRST ONE ASSH0LE!!!!!!!!!!!!
9/11 2001 —- THE ELECTION WAS 2000 ASSH0LE!
GW BOTCH WAS THE COMMANDER AND CHIEF ON 9/11 STUPID A$$!
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:52 pmProAmerica Says:
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In the real world, a consensus is the best that can be achieved.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:49 pm
According to whom ?
You ?
Who the hell are you to talk of other’s lives so flippantly ?
As if you matter more than those who have perished ?
Is that why you stay here in the US and cheerlead , you big pansy coward ?
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 pmSo when this president swore to uphold the “honor and dignity” of his office, did that include keeping people on the administration payroll who:
eliminated untold numbers of email and other correspondence?
broke the law by catering to party loyalty over career qualification?
declared himself “untouchable” as the fourth branch of government?
shot a friend in the face yet delayed notifying authorities until enough time passed that all traces of alcohol would be gone?
couldn’t “remember” or “recall” what he did once he arrived at his Attorney General of the United States office each day?
Prevented media coverage of military funerals, even when families approved of such coverage?
Allows his Press Secretary not to call on members of the press whom she assumes will challenge the latest misstep of the administration?
Claim that the gas-price situation didn’t occur quickly when, in fact, prices have gone up $1 or more in less than a year over the 100-year-history of prices staying below $3?
. . . and on . . . and on . . . and on.
So much for honor and dignity.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 pmProAmerica Says:
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“are 0-for-3 on your list there”
Saddam Hussein lives on and remains in power in your mind? LOL
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm
And Iraq is a “functioning democracy” in your tiny pea brain ? LOL
Guess again
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pmProAmerica thinks the Taliban have been defeated. I bet it also thinks AQ is as well.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pmProAmerica Says:
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Stating reality is not flippant at all.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 pmIF YOU ONLY KNEW SH|T ABOUT REALITY IT WOULD HELP AROUND HERE…
ProAmerica Says:
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Stating reality is not flippant at all.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Whose “reality” ?
Those people have to live with death and destruction on an unimaginable scale every day for 6 years ; and you sit here , posting lie after lie for a despicable piece of shit while you hide behind his skirt.
How typically Republican of you………
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 pm422. ProAmerica Says:
jonny,
The consensus on Iraq went back throughout the Clinton administration. So who manufactured it?
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Um, ya might not wanna go there. Nobody but the Boy George Maladministration INVADED the damned place.
Plus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0wbpKCdkkQ
Oopsie.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 pmProAmerica Says:
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Patty,
your ability to copy and paste irrelevant talking points is indeed impressive.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 pm
But nowhere near your grand scale …………..
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pmProAmerica clearly can’t think for itself.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pmProAmerica Says:
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MC Reality is intelligence gathering is always imperfect. Always. And I haven’t lied at all, unlike you.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm
That’s why Chimpy’s Iraq adventure was idiotic and unnecessary to begin with ; and you just added to your mind-boggling list of lies ……..
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:02 pmOn an unrelated note, I checked out JohnMcCain.com and found out that a campaign event is scheduled in my same general area for some time in August.
I felt compelled to respond that the message included “dessert” spelled incorrectly — with one “s” instead of two.
Since then, I’ve received at least five emails (each now including the correct spelling of “dessert”), asking if I’ll be attending. To each one, I’ve clicked the “no” response. (I would click “no, thank you,” but that choice doesn’t exist.
Just checked my emails again — got another one this afternoon.
Lucky, lucky me.
I guess
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:05 pmPro, Yeah, but the consensus doesn’t go back through the 90’s. The consensus changed due to Iraq/Iran war and U.N/U.S. sanctions. Did you ever hear of Scott Ritter?
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:06 pmProAmerica Says:
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The intel on Afghanistan was imperfect. Clinton’s intel on Iraq in 1998 was imperfect. The intel on Bosnia was imperfect. The intel on Iraq in 1991 was imperfect. The intel in WWII was imperfect. It’s always imperfect. So by MC’s idiotic standard, we could never do anything.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Clinton didn’t invade a sovereign nation and cause the deaths of over 1 million human beings ; based upon Chimpy’s and your moronic standards , you are both galactically stupid and did the wrong thing and still try to idiotically defend it………….
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pmProAmerica Says:
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The intel on Afghanistan was imperfect.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pmAnd your imperfection, your brain, your family is damaging the world!
Ummmm, whatever-name-you’re-posting-under-at-the-moment, you might want to re-check the thread: It’s all about the president’s promise to restore honor and dignity to the office of president.
I didn’t cut and paste the limited examples; they happened to be the ones that pushed themselves to the front of the crowded possibilities.
Still waiting for an apology for saying I’m not a patriot.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pmProAmerica Says:
You said the intel consensus that goes back throughout the 1990s was manufactured. Who manufactured it?
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I said nothing about “back throughout the 90s,” ace. YOU did.
http://www.curveballbook.com/
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 pmProAmerica Says:
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Stating reality is not flippant at all.
–A nonscience or philosophy major, right? The very suggestion that there is but a single reality and that by chance you might know it proves a limited worldview
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 pmBeyond any doubt, ProAm and IParrot are Mr. Pee!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pmHussein McCain Says:
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Pro, I never did find out if IThink has ever heard of Scott Ritter. Have you?
Now that’s just mean. Funny but still…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pmHM,
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:13 pmI don’t expect that the Troll is going to respond. It is most likely familiar with who Scott Ritter is, but since admitting to that would basically make all its arguments fall apart. I dont see that happening.
Do you find Hans Blix, Mohammed el-Baredi or any of the weapons inspectors who were actually in Iraq credible?
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:15 pmProAmerica:
Might I inguire as to your qualifications to judge the credibility of Scott Ritter or pretty much anyone else? Thanks, I trust you training and expertise in this area will offer much to the conversation
cheers-
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 pmProAmerica Says:
jonny, You said the consensus was manufactured. I noted the fact that consensus went back throughout the Clinton administration.
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THIS is the post I responded to, skippy:
“410. ProAmerica Says:
They didn’t rely on one source, they relied on the consensus, a broad consensus.”
Don’t even know what YOU said, do ya? Too bad it’s right there in the thread.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:17 pmProAmerica is another useless troll that showed up just after IDinkMoreThanYouDo got his a$$ kicked and disappeared…
How RePugniScum…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:17 pm451. ProAmerica Says:
… I don’t find him credible.
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That, and $0.99, will getcha some fries at McDonald’s anywhere.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:19 pmUS and Britain create facts to justify Iraq war: Blix
PLA Daily 2004-02-25
BERLIN, Feb. 23 (Xinhuanet) — Former UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix has said he believes Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) were destroyed long ago and Washington created facts to justify the US-led war on Iraq in 2003.
“I think Saddam Hussein destroyed most WMD after the Gulf War in 1991. The war (with Iraq in 2003) was in no case justified,” Blix said in an interview with the online edition of the German weekly Stern.
“The Americans and British created facts where there were no facts at all. They did not want to listen (to me). My warnings were ignored,” said Blix.
“The Americans needed (Iraq to have) WMD to justify the Iraq war. They were a virtual reality,” Blix said.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 pmdixie blood:
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 pmIt has little to do with any heartfelt ideology. The profile is more grounded in attention getting
Sorry to repeat myself but LOL is sooo ninth grade.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pmProAmerica Says:
Come on, quite dodging jonny, don’t leave us hanging. I want to know ….
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“410. ProAmerica Says:”
BTW … who cares what you want?
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pmPA is clearly off its Meds.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pmProA.
REMEMBER:
9/11 was let to happen on Bush’s watch. What did he prevent?
REMEMBER:
George Worst Bush reminded us all, “THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR WAY OF LIFE.” Is this why he’s sought to undermine Congress, the Geneva Conventions and the Rights of the Republic?
REMEMBER:
Georgie doesn’t lie…
What a pathetic TROLL you are. USA_Pat, US_Pat, ThinkSocialist, ThinkFascist, IThinkDoYou, ProAmerica.
Your LOYALTY to a president is leaving you without a darn civil Right. Your LOYALTY didn’t cry when that man you worship attempted to deny you, along with all people, the RIGHT TO HABEAS CORPUS. You should be thankful there are some “activist” judges left on the SCOTUS to over rule the King. Otherwise, he would have to be cited with being in violation of the Constitution.
This LOYALTY also isn’t aware that currently, the man you worship can haul you into ‘GITMO’ based on telecommunications he’s ordered to be conducted on ALL Americans, and if you think he’s wrong, there is no course of recourse for you except to await your military tribunal. And if and when you are found guilty, the law he signed disallows you a PURSUIT OF JUSTICE.
WHOLLY ANTITHETICAL to what America has stood for…
… And you support this?
WHY DO YOU HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
… That you support the Administration’s assertion to deny Americans their Freedom?
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, unless this TROLL proves us otherwise, he’s a Fascist supporter and appeaser.
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August 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
Haw, haw! Must be some o’ that “consensus” ProJunior keeps squawking about.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pmProAmerica Says:
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Keith’s source is the PLA Daily, i.e. the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. Classic!
So site a source to refute it sh1tstain.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pmProAmerica Says:
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dixie is clearly on drugs of some kind.
Actually not you SELF PROJECTING moron!
But, you do need to take your prescribed meds, no doubt!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pmMAX-1 you left out Biff
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pmProAmerica Says:
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What qualifications are required to judge Scott Ritter’s credibility? Is there some sort of licensing board or official curriculum offered? LOL
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August 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pmWell let’s think about this shall we? Do you feel equally qualified to judge the surgeon, the high voltage powerline technician, the harbor master?
More “consensus:”
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1
Haw.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pmProA-hole
The MCA of 2006…
BUSH SIGNED THE DARNED THING…
… The SCOTUS ruled the aspect of denying “PERSONS” their inalienable Rights to Habeas Corpus was unconstitutional…
or do you not pay attention to what the hell you’re talking about.
Either you live under a rock, in the shallow end of a very, VERY murky pool, or ignorant. I choose the latter as comparing you to slime is an insult… to slime!
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August 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pmWikipedia:
Blix’s statements about the Iraq WMD program came to contradict the claims of the George W. Bush administration, [6] and attracted a great deal of criticism from supporters of the invasion of Iraq. In an interview on BBC TV on 8 February 2004, Dr. Blix accused the US and British governments of dramatising the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, in order to strengthen the case for the 2003 war against the regime of Saddam Hussein.
In an interview with London’s Guardian newspaper, Hans Blix said, “I have my detractors in Washington. There are bastards who spread things around, of course, who planted nasty things in the media” [7]
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pmRandom,
Is Biff the same person?
So far I can count at least 5 different times this TROLL has been banned…
…T O D A Y!
What a funkin’ indictment of character that he keeps on coming back for more.
This TROLL defines insanity… NO? Expecting different results…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:37 pmMore “consensus:”
http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:37 pmPro, You know Scott wasn’t the one who kept lying to Mr. Roper, right? That was John, and that was a tv show. TV is nice, but books are our friends too, Pro.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:37 pmI sort of think that despite the outcome I would be wise enough to know that the surgeon knew more than I or maybe Scott Ritter. I wouldn’t want either Scott nor I to try and pretend to be qualified more than the surgeon. Besides Scott is trained for something else which is why they didn’t ask you or I to do what he did/does…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:40 pmProAmerica Says:
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“he’s a Fascist supporter ”
No, I am not a Democrat.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Gawd damn you are dumber than a bag of rocks kicked off a small incline!
Democrats cannot be Fascist because Fascism involves sucking up to the Corporations in power and the monied elite! THAT WOULD BE REPUGNISCUMS A$$WIPE!
BUT, YOU ARE TOOOOO STUUUUPID TO KNOW THAT….
THAT’S WHY YOU SLING WORDS AT US IN COMPLETE IGNORANCE!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:40 pmMarch 5, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
Blix: Iraq War Was Illegal
Blair’s defense is bogus, says the former UN weapons inspector
by Anne Penketh in Stockholm and Andrew Grice
The former chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has declared that the war in Iraq was illegal, dealing another devastating blow to Tony Blair.
Mr Blix, speaking to The Independent, said the Attorney General’s legal advice to the Government on the eve of war, giving cover for military action by the US and Britain, had no lawful justification. He said it would have required a second United Nations resolution explicitly authorizing the use of force for the invasion of Iraq last March to have been legal.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 pmSaddam DID have WMDs. Once upon a time.
The Reaganistas/Bushistas were sure of it. They kept the receipts.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:42 pmYo ProA-hole
READ THIS:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/12/boumediene/
Forget the source… it’s “liberal” and we know you hate us for our FREEDOMS…
However, refute the facts!
Why prove that the cheapest state is the State of Denial.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:42 pmMax-1, yep it is Biffy. As one of the other regulars here stated it is just another reincarnation of Mr.P.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:44 pmMr.P was before my time though so I dont know for sure.
But it’s defenitly the Biff.
To bad Sanitariums were closed down, that’s the only reason we have to put up with these demented characters
ProAmerica etal:
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:44 pmI salute you! You have managed to bullshit around all day. It is a magical thing…
ProAmerica Says:
Blix could not gain full compliance from Saddam.
Liar, liar, pants on fire [Mr Pee imitation]!
Tell us how exactly you think he did not comply. I remember him allowing the inspectors to look anywhere before W kicked them out again. I remember them finding nothing, and I remember Saddam turning over 12,000 pages to account for past wmd.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 pm#485 TROLL says:
Blix was following orders of the U.N. to inspect and report…
Bush, in disrespect of the U.N. and the weapon inspectors, decided to invade WITHOUT DEFINITIVE PROOF OR AUTHORIZATION from the U.N.
What’s your next argument? The U.N. doesn’t matter? Then why b!tch about Saddam not complying with U.N. directives is the U.N. didn’t matter. Sounds like you support Saddam, then.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 pm498. ProAmerica Says:
… to some, everything is always America’s fault. …
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Haw. POX Spews-type drivel: “Some people SAY ….”
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 pmdbadass
He sure has racked up some Super-Duper McBonus Points…!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 pmProAhole’s opinion about anything carries no wieght. It’s just a shitdisturbing REICHWING FASCIST APOLLOGIST.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:52 pmThe UN weapons inspectors do not know that Saddam violated the UN resolutions, but Mr. Pee does? Listen to your argument!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:53 pmIncorrect ProA-Hole,
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:53 pmI happen to think you hate us for our freedoms…
If anyone LOL’s anymore they will be ROTL. So lame…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 pmG2G
Pro, Who writes your stuff? I think you’re paying them too much.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 pmMake that L an F please.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pmProA-Hole,
Again, why imply that there is a struggle between two halves of America? Democrat versus Republican, Left Vs. Right, Liberal Vs. CONservative, Blue Vs. Red, …
Aren’t we all Americans who deserve to know the truth?
Aren’t we all Americans who deserve to have a form of Government OF, FOR and BY the People?
Aren’t we all Americans who deserve Faithful Representation to support and defend the Constitution?
So, why do you hate us for our FREEDOMS and way of life?
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pmdbadass, CUL8R
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 pmI am NOT a Democrat.
What a moron,
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 pmThen what are you Sh1tstain?
Still I can think of some funny things that ROTL might stand for…
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 pm#507 ProAmerica Says:
If you had your way, you’d be correct.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:01 pmSee ya DB, have a great evening
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:03 pm512. Max-1 Says:
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Pee equates America with corrupt right-wing politicians and the Reaganista/Bushista military-industrial-oil-companies would-be plutocracy.
Americans don’t, but Pee does.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:03 pmjohnny,
See ProA-hole and his kind see America as two distinct parts… The haves and have mores. The haves are us, the people, who currently deserve what the BushCo will let us have. The have mores are the elite, the Rove’s, the Pelosi’s, the chickhawks, the O’Liely’s, the CONyers, … they’re ABOVE the law and therefore “untouchable”. It’s a cultural identity that should have been refuted when Ford pardoned Nixon. Since then, elites in DC and their upper crust supporters have felt like THEY are the have mores…
ProA-hole is either jealous or an idealist…
Her contempt for Americana is so rich that ever her identity is being defined by her Anti-American stances.
To date no answer on the query:
Name one redeeming quality to lies…
Name one redeeming quality to usurping Congress…
Name one redeeming quality to violating American Justice…
Name one redeeming quality to torture…
Name one redeeming quality to undermining Liberty…
Name one redeeming quality, just one to any of this…
… Because this is what you defend
All I have read by her is excuses…
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:11 pmThe attitude of our 5 in 1 troll exudes an air of superiority that reminds me of David Addington when he testified at that Congressional hearing just a little while ago.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:12 pmJuly 18, 2003 — President Bush told a group of surprised reporters that Saddam Hussein had refused to permit weapons inspectors to return to Iraq: “And we gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in. And therefore, after a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power.” [Washington Post]
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:12 pmAlthough Iraq was cooperative on what inspectors called “process”—allowing inspectors access to suspected weapons sites, for example—it was only marginally cooperative in answering the questions surrounding its weapons programs. Unable to resolve its differences with Security Council members who favored strengthening and continuing weapons inspections, the United States abandoned the inspections process and initiated the invasion of Iraq on March 19.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:23 pmAfter bugging the Security Council’s phones the US realized the vote would be 11-4 against the invasion. Not even considering a Big Five veto.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:26 pmAugust 3rd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
4NIC8
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:30 pmFace it guys, this troll will stiil be spouting those same lies next year, since it gives the sad little clown some measure of emotional comfort, believing them. Every time you present facts, he regards it as if it’s an attempt to take away the poor dear’s security blanket. And nights in the political wilderness can get cold, so let him have his little blankie. It’s not hurting anyone for him to believe this bunk, unless he’s in some position of power, and judging by his posts, he’s too naive to be a politician.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:31 pmThe criminal super rich are totally demonic, folks. You’d better realize that before they eat you alive.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pmLet George and Dick to explain themselves…at the Hague. I’ll be happy to support the extradition.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:53 pmBeauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
August 4th, 2008 at 12:17 amSeven years ago we were attacked by a bunch of fanatics that started planing the attacks of 9/11 long before G.W. Bush was elected president. I think that the name of the President that failed to protect us was Bill Clinton. He will go in history as the only President that failed to approve that Osama be killed. He wanted the CIA to arrest him.
George W. Bush and Dick Chaney have saved your asses for the past seven years.
You don’t have to thank them.
I will do it for you.
GEORGE W. Bush and Dick Cheney, the ones who let Bin Laden get away…at Tora Bora…
you’re right, we SHOULD thank Bush and Cheney for their incompetence…
August 4th, 2008 at 1:46 amand Alfonso, the GOP stood by and claimed Clinton was WAGGING the dog, when he sent cruise missiles against the terrorist training camps in Afghanistan…
so you should thank the GOP for instigating the blowjob impeachment affair that distracted Clinton from going after terrorists…
Actually you don’t have to thank them.
I shall do it for you.
P.S. Try posting without GOP talking points… it might do you some good…
August 4th, 2008 at 1:49 amI think that the name of the President that failed to protect us was Bill Clinton.
~P Alfonso
But the man who was living in the White House at the time of the attacks didn’t fail to protect the US?
Wow… funny how responsibility falls exclusively on the guy whose shift had already ended.
He will go in history as the only President that failed to approve that Osama be killed.
And pray tell, how was he supposed to know that Obama would mastermind an attack years later?
Wouldn’t the guy who received a memo called “Bin Laden determined to strike in the US” share some of that responsibility? No? Why is that?
George W. Bush and Dick Chaney have saved your asses for the past seven years.
How did they do that, exactly? By invading a country that posed no threat and that didn’t have anything to do with 9/11?
Yeah, that is some vigorous defence, indeed.
You don’t have to thank them. I will do it for you.
And after you are done kissing the ground they walk on, you may want to consider a little therapy. Having a crush like that cannot be healthy.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:04 amchimpy proved once again he’s a liar. I knew it then and I know it now.
One has to innately have honor and dignity before one can claim to uphold it. And chimpy isn’t close to getting either one.
I mean really, look at all the “good” and “love” chimpy has shown our troops. When chimpy steps outside of paradise which we refer to as the USA he’s stampeded by his admirers.
I can go on with this story but I’m making myself sick…
why would anyone cling onto a useless oil old “party” that really hasn’t been sensible, trustworthy or logical in the the 20th century?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:58 amSaint Augustine Says:
The attitude of our 5 in 1 troll exudes an air of superiority that reminds me of David Addington when he testified at that Congressional hearing just a little while ago.
Exactly.
Why do trolls come on one at a time? Could it be one ahole is using different names? how can they believe mcchimpy will be better when mcchimpy doesn’t speak for himself? And they say Sen. Obama does magic.
mcchimpy is the dummy and chimpy is the ventriloquist.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:13 am