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Lieberman On Attending RNC Convention: ‘I Will Do It’ And Speak Against ‘Partisan Mud-Slinging’

On Meet the Press, host Tom Brokaw informed guest Joe Lieberman (I-CT) that nearly 50,000 activists have signed onto the “Lieberman Must Go” petition being circulated by Brave New Films. “Do you think you’re going to be comfortable next year in the Democratic caucus?” Brokaw asked. Lieberman said he’s crossed party lines to support John McCain because “this is no ordinary time.”

Brokaw followed-up by asking if that means he will speak at the Republican convention. Lieberman practically confirmed that he would indeed speak. After stating that no decision has been made, Lieberman went on to say:

If Sen. McCain feels that I can help his candidacy…I will do it. But I assure you this Tom, I’m not going to go to that convention — the Republican convention — and spend my time attacking Barack Obama. I’m going to go there really talking about why I support John McCain and why I hope a lot of other independents and Democrats will do that.

And frankly, I’m going to go to a partisan convention and tell them — if I go — why it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers.

Brokaw said “it sounds like you’re going to go.” Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) added, “It looks like that to me too.” Watch it:

Later in the roundtable segment, Andrea Mitchell said the “good money” is that Lieberman would deliver the keynote address at the RNC Convention.

By speaking at the convention, Lieberman will be implicitly endorsing policy positions he claims to be against — such as Social Security privatization and limiting a woman’s right to choose — while undermining support for progressive reforms that he claims to support like comprehensive immigration reform and a cap-and-trade system to combat climate change.



144 Responses to “Lieberman On Attending RNC Convention: ‘I Will Do It’ And Speak Against ‘Partisan Mud-Slinging’”

  1. MCMetal says:

    If Sen. McCain feels that I can help his candidacy…I will do it. But I assure you this Tom, I’m not going to go to that convention — the Republican convention — and spend my time attacking Barack Obama.

    Yeah

    That’s for before and after the convention , right you un-American sack of shit ?


  2. Kay says:

    Go F__uck yourself, LIEberman!


  3. stateofthedivision says:

    It just so happens another Jewish politician is under VP consideration from McCain.

    The Jerusalem Post story read “McCain campaign considers Jewish VP”. However the picture wasn’t John’s BFF, Joe Lieberman, but a youthful looking Congressman from Virginia. The story said McCain’s vetters requested personal documents from Rep. Eric Cantor.

    http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2008/08/eric-cantor-nrcc-leader-mccain-vp.html


  4. hussein toasterhead says:

    Hey TP I found a typo in the first sentence of the first paragraph. The sentence should read:

    On Meet the Press, host Tom Brokaw informed guest Joe Lieberman (R-CT) that nearly 50,000 activists have signed onto the “Lieberman Must Go” petition being circulated by Brave New Films.

    I request that you kindly fix this error at your earliest convenience.


  5. Kay says:

    I am so gd sick of these War Criminals get air time.
    This man should be in prison.


  6. ctrotter says:

    “A nation can survive its fools, even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within….for the traitor appears not to be a traitor…he rots the soul of a nation…he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.”

    Cicero


  7. Kay says:

    oops.. getting air time.


  8. JMOHR says:

    Yes, despite the scurrilous ads run this week by the McCain campaign, the Lieb is against hyper bipartisanship.


  9. jb says:

    I can’t stand to listen to the whining holier than thou traitor. Perfect for the GOP party of racists, bigots, religious nits, nuts and nattering nabobs.


  10. tom says:

    Personally, I hope that Lieberman does speak at the RNC convention. It will be the ultimate “Zell Miller” moment for him and the good people of Connecticut will “retire” him at the next possible opportunity. In the meantime, he will be irrelevant. That is as it should be.

    I was particularly amused at the discussion this morning where he was criticizing Obama for changing his position on off-shore drilling but praising McCain for being an “inclusive leader” who focuses on solving problems.

    It seems to me that Obama’s clear position on off-shore drilling is that he opposes it but is open to some well-delineated but limited expansion if it will help pass a comprehensive energy solution (as opposed to the oil solution that the republicans are pressing for). I can respect Obama’s posture on this matter because that is exactly the kind of “inclusive leadership” we need to get us out of the hole that GDumbya and the “with us or against us” republicans have dug for us.


  11. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Lieberman On Attending RNC Convention: ‘I Will Do It’ And Speak Against ‘Partisan Mud-Slinging’

    Now that is rich considering the fact that LIEberman is one of the biggest partisan mud-slingers.

    I’m sure the irony is lost on him.


  12. helenahandbasket says:

    Remember the “purple fingers” and “bandages” worn by all the crazies at bush’s 2004 coronation. Rove, er Rick Davis, controls the g.o.p./mccain message and will control Joe.


  13. helenahandbasket says:

    Speaking of which, will the delegates wear blond wigs or just blackface at the g.o.p. convention?


  14. Marie says:

    it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers.
    That remark from the POS Lieberman made me laugh out loud.
    He’s a whining, lying, self-serving, egotistical repugnant person. How Kerry refrained from b!tchslapping the jerk shows a level of self-restraint on Kerry’s part.


  15. upside99 says:

    Does JoeL really believe that he has a shot at VP or is he just so NeoConned that he can’t see the forest for the dung piles of the Repug BS?


  16. qatwoman says:

    “hussein toasterhead Says:

    Hey TP I found a typo in the first sentence of the first paragraph. The sentence should read:

    On Meet the Press, host Tom Brokaw informed guest Joe Lieberman (R-CT) that nearly 50,000 activists have signed onto the “Lieberman Must Go” petition being circulated by Brave New Films.

    I request that you kindly fix this error at your earliest convenience.”
    Lieberman is a closet republican. The (R) is correct!


  17. Marie says:

    Whining Lieberman actually defended the most moronic, ad hominem attacks and juvenile partisanship of McCain ads, saying they were justified, and true — that was about 3 minutes before he claimed he would not be a partisan mud-slinger.



  18. unbelievable says:

    Someone please explain to me why Al Gore thought he was a good running mate.


  19. osage says:

    ONE MONTH AGO — IN LATE JUNE — A MCCAIN AD SUPERIMPOSED OBAMA’S VISAGE ON A ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO MOCK HIS SUPPOSED ‘PRESUMPTUOUSNESS.’

    To all you self-deluding gullible Republicans who claim to believe that Obama interjected RACE into the presidential campaign by stating, “You know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He’s risky.”, it must be humbling or even humiliating to realize how easily manipulated you’ve been. Your guy is a flat out lying SOB whose basic campaign strategy is to smear Obama and then claim to be the victim when Obama calls him out for what he’s done. MCCAIN IS A SHAMELESS LYING RACIST! And those who support him are no more honorable or worthy of trust or respect than he is.

    http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/setting-the-rec.html

    Note that the image doesn’t occur until about three-quarters of the way through the video. The way YouTube works, the default image occurs at the midpoint. In other words, McCain’s campaign purposefully choose this image.


  20. stateofthedivision says:

    As for Israel, Prime Minister Olmert’s likely replacement is on CNN as I write. Tzipi Livni is talking hawkish on the Iranian threat.


  21. tom says:

    Someone please explain to me why Al Gore thought he was a good running mate.

    That one has me stumped. However, the words of Abe Lincoln come to mind: “You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

    This applies to GDumbya and Darth Cheney as well.


  22. Badger says:

    unbelievable Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Someone please explain to me why Al Gore thought he was a good running mate.

    FLORIDA…But Bush ended up stealing it anyhow.


  23. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Badger Says:
    unbelievable Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Someone please explain to me why Al Gore thought he was a good running mate.

    FLORIDA…But Bush ended up stealing it anyhow.

    True… but also, Gore wanted to distance himself from Clinton’s “moral failings”. Holy Joe, who had publicly scolded the President during the impeachment seemed to fit that bill.

    IMHO, trying to run away from Clinton was really what cost Gore the election.


  24. ralph the wonder llama says:

    It’s kinda funny that the Republican brand is so badly damaged that they have to bring in ex-Democrats to speak at their convention…


  25. unbelievable says:

    Badger Says: FLORIDA…But Bush ended up stealing it anyhow.

    I don’t get the pandering to the Jewsih community either.

    If was going to to pander, then he should have gotten a woman or a Latino since women are 52% of the population in most states, and Latinos in Florida far outnumber Jews.

    Oh well.


  26. LiberalVoter says:

    Someone please explain to me why Al Gore thought he was a good running mate.

    Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. (?)
    Sun-tzu


  27. krazeeinjun says:

    Go Joe — and along the way enjoy whatever last vestiges you have as a United States Senator with any power whatsoever.

    Lieberman sold out the Dems a long, long time ago. It’s time a traitor is treated for what he is.

    Just saying . . .


  28. Shayne says:

    Keep talking Lieberman I think put a couple more nails in your political coffin on MTP today. It’s pretty safe to say this is your last term as Senator. Although you’ll make a perfect Republican lobbyist.


  29. Jim says:

    If indeed Lieberman thinks it’s true that “it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers,” then why has Lieberman been slinging endless piles of mud at Barack Obama? And why does he support a candidate who is one of the most prolific partisan mud-slingers in the history of presidential campaigns? With Joe Lieberman, it’s never anything but empty rhetoric.


  30. tom says:

    It’s kinda funny that the Republican brand is so badly damaged that they have to bring in ex-Democrats to speak at their convention…

    Perhaps, what we are missing about the current changes in the political landscape is that the battle is not being fought between democrats and republicans or between liberals and conservatives — it is being waged between progressives and reactionaries.

    The reactionaries are at a distinct disadvantage because they really don’t have a candidate in the race. They can only hope to derail Obama and co-opt McNumbNuts into doing their bidding.

    The real issue in this campaign is not so much the candidates but the competing ideologies. Down the progressive path lies a return to our true core principles and a vision for the future. Down the reactionary path lies a bastardization of our values and a continuation of the past eight disastrous years.

    I know which way I am voting.


  31. stateofthedivision says:

    How about a Republican National Convention barbershop quartet of McCain, Lieberman, Cantor, and Bush singing “bomb, bomb, bomb…”

    http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19882621&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8


  32. Paul W says:

    And frankly, I’m going to go to a partisan convention and tell them — if I go — why it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers.

    Partisan mud-slingers? So there are no substantial differences between the parties? Or is it that anyone who disagrees with your warped, militaristic view of the world is a “partisan mud-slinger?”

    Lieberman is the very definition of a principleless political operator. The only reason he’s an Independent is because he was rejected by Democrats and now he’s backing an equally principle challenged Republican candidate.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  33. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    Lieberman is a traitor, a liar and a war criminal.


  34. Gregor Samsa says:

    it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers

    Lieberman should really take his own advice and stop getting in bed with professional mudslingers, ie, Rove, Cheney, et al.


  35. samsuncle says:

    Who would have thought in 2000 that John McCain and Joe Liberman would have so drastically changed their political views and become the political hacks that they are today. Could it be that they have lost some of their mental faculites due to their advanced age? People like these two and many others make a definate case for the need congressional term limits. BTW I am 61 yrs. old.


  36. tigger says:

    Senator Palpatine will go make his grand little speech…

    Must be hard to breathe up there in McCain’s butt.


  37. techsong says:

    Lieberman was allowed to dominate this discussion with pro-McCain talking points. Kerry just allowed Joe to just steamroll them thru. Shame on you John Kerry. Of course,Brokaw also said nothing to dispute Joe’s hollow talking points. Brokaw is a poor replacement for Tim. He needs to step up and stop these guys as Tim did when they run off their mouths on these highly disputable talking points. Brokaw seems more suited to sports commentary the politics. I don’t understand this choice by NBC.


  38. christopher wiwi says:

    Ah, Traitor Joe still pandering for the V.P. slot…..Mcwars can have you all to himself traitor Joe, come November you lose anyways.


  39. Wayne says:

    USA_Pat Says:

    Oh, goody a troll that is just posting nonsense and not here to discuss ( proof in earlier thread )

    Flag time!


  40. Badmoodman says:

    But I assure you this Tom, I’m not going to go to that convention — the Republican convention — and spend my time attacking Barack Obama.

    – - Oh, only in the de facto sense, eh Joe?


  41. Wayne says:

    wow troll is gone. That was fast.


  42. tom says:

    I’m sorry that usa_pat got booted. I was just going to ask him what his definition of the words “patriotic” and “honest” mean to him. That would have been good! Rarely, do we get to peek inside the vast, empty caverns that pass for troll-brains.


  43. dbadass says:

  44. pax says:

    He reminds me of someone from the Adam’s Family! He is creepy and I can not trust him.


  45. Castelcomerkid says:

    I heard a joke on TV this morning…”Liberman.” When did it become funny to engage in mockery of another person and call it humorous? When did it become OK to belittle another person and call it humor? Or to engage in name-calling and all the other things we saw the McCain campaign descend into this week in their ads which this “joke” this morning referred to as a ’sign of a sense of humor?’ Whatever image Brittany and Paris project, why is OK to mock them? If the tables were turned and the “joke” were mocked for fitting the worst stereo-type thinkable, would the “joke” think it was funny? Everyone knows he wouldn’t, but rather would be screaming to the high heavens about it.
    How about jokes about him being a turncoat and a traitor to his party? Let Leno and company have at him on that score all week long and see how he likes it. The difference of course is that basic arguement would be true, while all the garbage he spewed out this morning about Obama is nothing more then and expression of Repuklic campaign retoric in the face of having no meaningful plans or candidate for that matter.


  46. dbadass says:

    Hi US-Pat:
    I think it might have more to do with a deliberate attempt to just bullshit around as opposed to a desire to pose cogent alternative views.


  47. unbelievable says:

    US-Pat Says: Censorship of opposing views. How liberal of ThinkFascist!

    You didn’t present any views. Just pooped all over the thread without facts, supporting evidence or reasoned thought.

    You were actually flushed.


  48. katy says:

    … only PARTISAN mud-slinging?


  49. katy says:

    i should add:

    [...]
    Whatever you think about Barack Obama, he does not want the race issue to be front and center in this campaign. Every day that the campaign is about race is a good day for John McCain. So I guess we understand Mr. McCain’s motivation.

    Nevertheless, it’s frustrating to watch John McCain calling out Barack Obama on race. Senator Obama has spoken more honestly and thoughtfully about race than any other politician in many years. Senator McCain is the head of a party that has viciously exploited race for political gain for decades.

    He’s obviously more than willing to continue that nauseating tradition.

    from Running While Black
    by Bob Herbert

    a must read.


  50. unbelievable says:

    Tanqueray Says: And to think that if AlGore had succeeded in stealing Florida with his whining little court challenge, this lying, neocon loving, traitorous, Jewish POS could have been the democrat party nominee this time around, and you all would have to support him. That was close!

    Al Gore, in every indepndent vote, won Florida. He also won the popular vote.

    You should wish Al Gore hadn’t been cast aside by the Supreme Court. Gas wouldn’t be $4 a gallon and we wouldn’t be in a Recession-stagflation-deficit nightmare.

    Lieberman wouldn’t have gotten the party nomination. He might have even been replaced.


  51. dbadass says:

    I see we have returned to the just throw out whatever inane shit comes to mind strategy again.


  52. dbadass says:

    It is like some sort of bizarre rightwing talking point ADD.


  53. Innocent Bystander says:

    Joe is the worst kind of politician. He reminds me of the French politicians in WW2 who sold out their citizens by siding with the Nazi’s. A Vichy-type collaborator. Why is such a person allowed to caucus with the Senate Democrats? I’m sure Joe runs to the Republicans and tips them on Democratic Senate strategy.

    Just once, I’d like to see John Kerry look at Joe and say, “You say another word about Obama and I’m going to kick your miserable, sellout ass.” That would be enough to shut Joe’s mouth for the rest of this election.


  54. unbelievable says:

    US-Pat Says: You didn’t present any views. Just pooped all over the thread without facts, supporting evidence or reasoned thought.

    My seven year old niece stopped repeating what other people said, thinking it was funny, about four years ago.

    This is why you get deleted. You don’t contribute.

    Bye.


  55. Wayne says:

    Flag the whiny, wet bottomed troll before it cries some more.


  56. dbadass says:

    I can tolerate all sorts of dissent. I just like when it is sincere and focused.


  57. dbadass says:

    No it means offering cogent alternative views well articulated and supported by reasonable evidences.


  58. unbelievable says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    How many Atheistic liberals here and how many religious liberals?

    How many liberals who support gun right and how many who oppose?

    How many liberals are vegan/vegetarian and how many are omnivores?


  59. pete says:

    I could not agree with “Traitor Joe” less. When a party is hijacked by fools and criminals then “partisan mud-slinging” is our patriotic duty. And the only way to break their influence is to damage said party until they toss the bad actors out.

    But don’t worry for Joe. Having betrayed his country’s ideals, to promote war in the Mideast, his place among our nation’s traitors is secure.


  60. dbadass says:

  61. katy says:

    “flushed” – good one, un…

    looks like the trap is stopped up though… it’s overflowing…

    too bad…


  62. gummitch says:

    dbadass Says:

    It is like some sort of bizarre rightwing talking point ADD.

    I defined it as troll tourette’s. Looks like we have a respite from this one, but it will crawl back after “registering” a new troll nickname.


  63. Max-1 says:

    .

    Thanks Connecticut.

    .


  64. scytherius says:

    The sheer number of losers we elect to public office is astounding.


  65. katy says:

    me:

    i’m not athiest nor religeous…

    i support gun restrictions and regulations…

    i eat very little meat… and love milk…

    what’s the point?


  66. Badger says:

    Those elected to public office are , by definition, Winners.

    Unfortunately , it is the Public that are the losers, when those elected betray them.


  67. Max-1 says:

    .

    When the McCain’t ad features Obama on a dollar bill, the McCain’t campaign injected the image into the discussion. To comment on it is to respond to what was injected into the debate. The McCain’t tribe injected the specious argument of RACE. It would be the same if Hillary were in Obama’s shoes and the McCain’t groupies put her face on a dollar bill. If she were to comment on it, would she be inviting a sexist argument… or responding to sexist implications?

    .


  68. gummitch says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    How many Atheistic liberals here and how many religious liberals?

    How many liberals who support gun right and how many who oppose?

    How many liberals are vegan/vegetarian and how many are omnivores?

    Not so much religious as spiritual.

    Generally in favor of gun ownership linked to education and registration.

    Big fan of meat, cheese . . . all kinds of good food. Not crazy about Vegans, because they tend to be smug and vocal about their moral superiority.


  69. jonny says:

    Cut Quisling Joe a break.

    He ate a bowl of Hagee flakes for breakfast and it made him kak up hairballs.


  70. dbadass says:

    Hi ThinkCensorship:
    So would you like to pick a single topic and than add some supporting evidences? You might last a little longer that way.


  71. Gregor Samsa says:

    I fail to see the link between a liberal political leaning and one’s dietary choices…


  72. RUCerious says:

    Why doesn’t he just cut to the chase and speak at the Knesset.


  73. jonny says:

    73. ThinkCensorship Says:
    Obama injected the issue of race, not McCain.
    _______

    That’s what the McSame campaign tried to gin up, anyway.

    It flopped wtih everybody but POX Spews, swastika radio, and their Gomer & Jethro audiences.

    “My friendsssss ….”


  74. RUCerious says:

    ThinkCensorship Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Censorious cowards.

    Hmmm, your idiotic posts are still here, so I guess you’re just another moron in Bushivite clothing.


  75. dbadass says:

    No see that is just bad bait. You are the one whining about your poor views being prevented from getting a fair hearing. You might consider the topic of the thread. That’s sort of the idea…


  76. unbelievable says:

    99.99% Atheist. I’ll only change my mind when the empirical evidence for a god equals the empirical evidence for evolution. I am 99.99% certain it never will.

    I support gun rights with education, control, background checks, and registration.

    Vegan (but not morally smug about it since I live with two cats who cannot yet purchase their own meat. Just upset about how we tolerate the abuse that the food industry is allowed to do to food animals, so I educate people on that IF they first ask me why I am vegan.)

    Unlike Cons, all liberals don’t agree, therefore Pat the troll’s argument about getting deleted for disagreeing with us has been completely disproven.

    Thanks to those who participated.


  77. jonny says:

    77. Gregor Samsa Says:
    _____

    A certain Austrian corporal was a vegetarian.

    Musta been a Lib’rul, huh?


  78. jonny says:

    83. ThinkCensorship Says:
    “swastika radio”
    Did Air America change their name?
    _____

    A Pee Wee Herman knee-slapper from way back. Betcha got a million of’em.


  79. gummitch says:

    At 2:13, I wrote: I defined it as troll tourette’s. Looks like we have a respite from this one, but it will crawl back after “registering” a new troll nickname.

    Seven minutes later:

    ThinkCensorship Says:

    Censorious cowards.

    and continues to post the same mindless sh!t.


  80. dbadass says:

    See your losing focus again…


  81. gummitch says:

    dbadass Says:

    See your losing focus again…

    Just wind it up and it walks around bumping into walls, and crying about it.


  82. Saint Augustine says:

    Jonny is a troll, FLAG it.


  83. Wayne says:

    The room temperature IQ troll is back and still crying.
    Waaaaaa!


  84. RandomChaos says:

    ThinkCensorship, why do you hate America?


  85. pete says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    How many Atheistic liberals here and how many religious liberals?

    How many liberals who support gun right and how many who oppose?

    How many liberals are vegan/vegetarian and how many are omnivores?

    I’m not a liberal but I’d like to play.

    I’m an atheist, a hunter, and I believe that vegetables should be classified as “the stuff food eats”.

    The injection of Cristian evangelicalism into politics is what first drove me away from the GOP. They’ve managed to remove any hope of reasonable discourse.

    I’m for regulated gun ownership but, carrying of weapons should be restricted to: hunters in the field, private residences, shooting ranges, legitimate risk, and legal transportation. I absolutely support the right to carry a piece on your hip while making a night deposit but I don’t think it’s wise to allow widespread “concealed carry” permits.

    Aside from humans and other primates, I can’t think of a critter I wouldn’t eat, in a pinch. If someone chooses not to eat animals, that’s their right. Leave me out of it. I have no qualms about catching my food, and dispatching it, with my bare hands. And my conscience is clear as a bell.

    But, then again, I’m not a liberal either. LOL!


  86. dbadass says:

    Well see the initial premise is messed up. You might wanna go find a place called ThinkFascist and ask.


  87. jonny says:

    86. ThinkSocialist Says:
    Ever wonder why ThinkFascist doesn’t want anyone to hear dissenting views?
    _____

    Float something resembling a view, as opposed to right-wing “Polly wanna cracker,” and find out.


  88. jonny says:

    Saint Augustine Says:
    Jonny is a troll, FLAG it.
    _____

    Saint Augustine is a pantload, IGNORE it.


  89. upside99 says:

    unbelievable Says:
    Tanqueray Says: And to think that if AlGore had succeeded in stealing Florida with his whining little court challenge, this lying, neocon loving, traitorous, Jewish POS could have been the democrat party nominee this time around, and you all would have to support him. That was close!

    Al Gore, in every indepndent vote, won Florida. He also won the popular vote.
    You should wish Al Gore hadn’t been cast aside by the Supreme Court. Gas wouldn’t be $4 a gallon and we wouldn’t be in a Recession-stagflation-deficit nightmare.
    Lieberman wouldn’t have gotten the party nomination. He might have even been replaced.

    And, if that ticket would have won, my assumption was that JoeL would not have needed to support the NeoCon side as he would have had the attention that he craves, as part of the ticket that kept this country going in the right direction.


  90. jonny says:

    When Quisling Joe compares Hagee to Moses, is he sayin’ that Hagee’d take FORTY YEARS to stumble his fat ass across the Sinai Peninsula?


  91. upside99 says:

    I am a progressive-leaning Registered Independent, a meat eater, a recovering Protestant, own a gun but am not in favor of the loose carry gun laws we have now, eat a lot of veggies and fish, but not a vegan or vegetarian. A Vietnam combat vet who USED to respect McCain, ALWAYS thought Dubya was the dumbest Bush, and was against the Iraq invasion from the beginning, even though I had friends lost on 9/11 (As I did my research and didn’t find a single Iraqi named as involved in the attacks).


  92. Wayne says:

    pete Says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    unbelievable’s point was that “liberals” do not agree on everything as the braindead troll was trying to say.


  93. pete says:

    Quick poll:

    1. Does anyone flag people who politely and reasonably, or even humorously, offer “dissenting views”?

    2. Have you ever suspected that TP moderates comments which have not earned a complaint or triggered their filter?

    3. Do you think trolls doth protest too much?


  94. Gregor Samsa says:

    No, I strongly suspect so, and yes.


  95. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Tanqueray Says:

    And to think that if AlGore had succeeded in stealing Florida with his whining little court challenge, this lying, neocon loving, traitorous, Jewish POS could have been the democrat party nominee this time around, and you all would have to support him. That was close!

    Forget, for the moment, that it is a fact that the Republicans stole the 2000 election (a well-documented fact, Tanq), your comment displays a lack of logic often found in the troll droppings of people like you.

    Had Gore won in 2000, the rest of history would have changed, but you act as though every other aspect of life would be the same. If Gore were president, we would not have had a president willing to lie to the world to satisfy a personal vendetta and launch an unnecessary war in violation of international law. And Joe Lieberman would have had no reason to become a Republican war-monger for the state of Israel.

    So stop posting this moronic comment.


  96. upside99 says:

    Pete,

    I only flag if the post is WAAAY OT, if it is grossly offensive to any other poster or calls for death to anyone or is totally without a clue.


  97. OpenDebate says:

    No one said liberals agree on everything.


  98. RUCerious says:

    pete;

    1. Not in my lifetime.

    2. Not once I can recall.

    3. Yup.


  99. pete says:

    Wayne Says:
    August 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Yep. That’s why I offered my own perspective. The poor 20%ers can’t wrap their heads around the fact that politics and ideology are secondary to most reasonable people. We just look at the results. And, by any measure, today’s GOP is a disgrace of epic proportions.

    That’s why the opposition transcends traditional political boundaries. And that, at least, is an encouraging sign.


  100. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    How many Atheistic liberals here and how many religious liberals?

    How many liberals who support gun right and how many who oppose?

    How many liberals are vegan/vegetarian and how many are omnivores?

    Just to help prove the point, I am a Liberal who does not agree with all other Liberals.

    I am Atheist. No such thing as divinities, as far as I’m concerned, unless you change the definition of a “god”.

    I do not believe that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to own guns, but rather a community’s right to have a well-regulated militia and an armory to protect itself from the federal government (and foreign invasions the feds didn’t repel.)

    And I am omnivorous not only because I like meat, but because I do not believe humans are healthier just for avoiding it.

    Just throwing that out there to prove to the trolls that not all liberals think alike. I have to go now. Have fun trying to teach them logic and common sense. (They have to check their talking points to see what “common sense” would tell them to think.)


  101. Imichael says:

    Thanks latte drinking, arugala eating Conneticuit


  102. katy says:

    pete Says:
    Quick poll:

    1. no
    2. yes
    3. yes
    .

    off to spend a family day with the repuglies…

    uuuuugh…


  103. dbadass says:

    Why does arugala get ragged on so much? I really like arugala. Maybe if we called it rocket more the tough guys would dig it…


  104. trollsbwild says:

    Joe is a chummer. He loves to hang at the bottom. Amazing that he gets lower and lower, and lower.


  105. qatwoman says:

    “And frankly, I’m going to go to a partisan convention and tell them — if I go — why it’s so important that we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers.” He needs to get that message to his buddy McShame. He’s the one slinging mud. Hypocrite!



  106. Innocent Bystander says:

    Truly, an insufferable prig that’s got one goal – promoting himself. I couldn’t be happier that the Republican Party will showcase him and force the conventioneers to listen to him drone on about how awful partisan politics are. They really deserve him.


  107. dbadass says:

    Hi aceomalley:
    Are you calling me a prick? It would be illegal for me to vote is CT but still what gives?


  108. southrnbelle says:

  109. Kahoneez says:

    NEOCON Lieberman has a lot of help in the U.S. and isrAel, so consider this , “The Ken Starr report on Whitewater describes how Bill Clinton warned Monica Lewinsky that a foreign government was tapping their phone calls”.. AMDOCS Israeli Information Phone services has been accused of wiretapping and bailing out of jail , several israeli “art students ” arrested couple years back .
    Oh, AMDOCS operates in the U.S. and handles most of caller information in the U.S. .
    So WHAt Country has the ability to BLACKMAIL U.S. politicians? ISRAEL

    Google – AMDOCS spying or read whAT Whatreallyhappen.com


  110. Innocent Bystander says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Let’s prove a point.

    How many Atheistic liberals here and how many religious liberals?

    How many liberals who support gun right and how many who oppose?

    How many liberals are vegan/vegetarian and how many are omnivores?

    1) Agnostic
    2) Ought to be, ultimately, a local issue on gun control…or lack there-of.
    3) Love a good steak

    And I never vote anymore for anyone in the GOP….I don’t think there’s any place in our society for a political front group that’s controlled by Organized Crime.


  111. ralph the wonder llama says:

    assomalley7 Says:
    You pricks backed that loser Ned Lamont…keep whining…

    Your point…?

    You do HAVE a point, don’t you? …aside from just a penchant for vulgar name-calling, I mean.


  112. pluege says:

    LIEberman = zellout 2008.
    .


  113. Above the Clouds says:

    There are holes so big in the GOP and John McCain’s campaign that no amount of Joe Lieberman BS can ever hope to plug them up.


  114. pete says:

    Who the Hell is Ned Lamont? Who’s whining? What does that have to do with Joe supporting a senile warmonger and an insane foreign policy?


  115. dbadass says:

    So Ace if you are calling me a prick, we’re gonna have to talk. I trust you know what I mean…


  116. Saint Augustine says:

    Jonny @ 111

    Ok, I was wrong, you are not a troll. Apologies.

    BTW. I can not be a pants load since I blog naked when it is as hot as it has been here in Florida.


  117. aceomalley7 says:

    120: Ned Lamont was the guy the nutroots backed in CT vs. Lieberman…

    113: Don’t flatter yourself – I was referring to nutroots in general…

    117: Point – if the Dems hadn’t backed Lamont, Lieberman probably wouldn’t be going to the GOP convention…


  118. jonny says:

    122. Saint Augustine Says:
    Jonny @ 111
    Ok, I was wrong, you are not a troll. Apologies.
    _____

    Accepted. I never blog naked — don’t wanna scare the dog.


  119. dbadass says:

    aceomalley7:
    No fleetery involved just explaining how it is. Why would someone post such a ridiculous comment in the first place unless they had a certain reason?? I have been around fish and hooks my whole life, I have seen most of the baits even the poor ones…


  120. dbadass says:

    what the hell is fleetery?


  121. jonny says:

    aceomalley7 Says:

    117: Point – if the Dems hadn’t backed Lamont, Lieberman probably wouldn’t be going to the GOP convention…
    _____

    Point — if Quisling Joe didn’t have his head so far up Hagee’s ass, he could probably smell something besides old pork rinds.


  122. Wayne says:

    aceomalley7 Says:

    117: Point – if the Dems hadn’t backed Lamont, Lieberman probably wouldn’t be going to the GOP convention…

    Lamont was supported because he won the Democratic Primary and LIEberman lost, but maybe you are too stupid to realize that.

    And your posts are going to get flagged and yourself banned if you cannot stop the name calling.


  123. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    aceomalley7 Says:

    120: Ned Lamont was the guy the nutroots backed in CT vs. Lieberman…

    You did address his question about Joe supporting a senile warmonger and an insane foreign policy?

    113: Don’t flatter yourself – I was referring to nutroots in general…

    Then post a snide comment like that on dailyKos, not here. Think Progress does not endorse any political candidate, they simply tell the truth about the corrupt ones, many of whom are on the ideological opposition.

    117: Point – if the Dems hadn’t backed Lamont, Lieberman probably wouldn’t be going to the GOP convention…

    August 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    If the Republicans had not supported Lieberman over their own nominated candidate, Lieberman would have lost and joined the Republicans officially by now. He’d probably even had been chosen to head the GOP if Lamont had won.

    So, did you have a point to make that was based on reality?


  124. pete says:

    It was a rhetorical question troll. And Lamont’s run exposed Joe as a “war at all costs” Reichwing wacko on the subject of engaging Muslims “over there”.


  125. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    s/b “You did not address…”

    got one arm in a cast right now…later


  126. Wayne says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    got one arm in a cast right now…later

    Told you to hide the baseball bats when Jane gets mad at you..

    =D


  127. Buckie Boy says:

    we start to act like Americans and not as partisan mud-slingers…..

    ….what part of irony does Joe not get?


  128. abarts says:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446

    LIEberman could be Obama’s or McCain’s VP pick.


  129. ljm says:

    Can you believe that a mob of Republican big spenders and zealots will want to sit there listening to old Joe talk about no mud-slinging?
    Actually it might be entertaining to watch the 30 minute speech on “good will,” and it would be in keeping with all boring Republican Conventions.


  130. pete says:

    IMO the posts which go away are utter bullsh!t.


  131. republicanSScareme says:

    The big news of the new century:

    Criminal Jews Join The Republican Party. Phony Liberalism Revealed.


  132. Brain From Planet Arous says:

    Lieberman, like Pelosi, Reid, most Republicans, and many Democrats are working for the Likud Party/Zionists. Hell, the day after Obama got the nomination nod, he was speaking at AIPAC, threatening Iran, and gearing up for the “Farce on Terror”to transfer from Iraq to Afghanistan. Skull and Bones John Kerry works for them on a contract by contract basis. So, the order of importance, IMO of Lieberman and the traitorous Blue Dog Democrats are:

    1 – Military-Industrial Complex
    2 – Israel/Likud
    3 – Telecoms
    4 – Ethanol/Coal (Lots of coal is needed to refine ethanol)
    5 – Surveillance
    6 – Pharmaceuticals
    7 – Hydrogen Cells/Battery/Solar/Wind
    8 – Social Security
    9 – Universal health care

    Better than McNuts, but a hoodwink, and the drowning economic system will be painted as doing OK, much the same way the books were cooked under Clinton. When they delete NAFTA, GATT, and the other free trade agreements, then we will see a potential return to USA prosperity. Green technology (Solar, Wind, Electric, and Hydrogen Fuel Cells) could put the US back on track.

    Perpetual war and the grabbing of oil hot spots like Iraq, Iran, Caspian Sea, and Venezuela will only lead to a confrontation will Russia and China, and that is beyond insane.

    Liver-Lipped AssFishes like Lieberman only are there to throw confusion into people. He is trying to play both sides, corporate and labor, and frankly that is like playing 4th Amendment Surveillance and saying people still need a reason to be searched without a cause.


  133. Kay says:

    I regret voting for Kerry/LIEberman in 2004…


  134. misshusseinmolly says:

    Kay Says
    August 3rd, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    I regret voting for Kerry/LIEberman in 2004…
    _____________________________________________________________

    If you voted for Kerry/Lieberman in 2004, you must have written in that ticket. John Edwards was Kerry’s running mate.

    Perhaps you are thinking of Gore/Lieberman in 2000?

    I admit I voted for Gore/Lieberman in 2000 for two reasons — one, I liked Al Gore and I especially liked his position on the environment. I thought Bush was an idiot who should not have been allowed anywhere near the Oval Office. Two, this was before 9/11, and Lieberman had not gone ballistic about getting ballistic in the Middle East. He still had a record on domestic issues that I could (mostly) go with (his position on school vouchers alarmed me somewhat, however). But I still trusted him in the veep slot over Cheney, who scared the crap out of me.

    There were good reasons for voting for Gore in 2000. Don’t beat yourself up too much.


  135. Above the Clouds says:

    How sad a song is the Republican Party when they need Joe Lieberman to sell their nothing to America?


  136. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Wayne Says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:
    got one arm in a cast right now…later

    Told you to hide the baseball bats when Jane gets mad at you..
    =D

    August 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Wayne, that’s a rolling pin, not a baseball bat! ;) Really, it wasn’t my fault, I swear it!


  137. tarazan says:

    Joe claims to speak against ‘Mud-Slinging’ when he is the mud himself.


  138. pete says:

    Voltaire? Nah. He would have said something more like, “by the offal that spills from their mouths are they identified. Stunted intellects imprisoned by the walls of their own complacency, they don’t even realize how offensive they are to civilized, sophisticated, persons of more than average wit“.

    Or something along those lines. Perhaps followed by a dig at one of our trolls saying, “Bush is a great man. All you need to do is listen to his speeches to recognize the extent of his wisdom“?

    But. I never claimed to be in Voltaire’s league.


  139. EugeneDebs says:

    Unbelievable

    I am a religious far lefty liberal who believes in God but doesnt think all those who SAY they are working for him really are, who doesnt really care who0 has a gun but thinks in a perfect world only my WIFE would have one and cannot imagine any point this could POSSIBLY make to anyone not a brainwashed moron unless it was that liberals dont agree on that many issues except the one that says if you have two liberals in a room you have at least three opinions.


  140. ucsbclassics53 says:

    Watch, Lieberman will completely blame the Democrats for “partisan mud-slinging…”

    you just watch…


  141. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Ever since his re-election, we in Connecticut have been cheering on whiny-assed joe LIEberman. Slowly but surely, he has been committing political suicide, all he has been doing is knitting himself a noose. The grand finale to this passion play will occur in Jan. 09 when he gets stripped of his coveted appointments in the Senate.


  142. fletc3her says:

    I have never liked Lieberman. I think he was a big part of the reason why Gore lost to Bush in 2000. He put his fake morality over common sense when he denounced Clinton. He put personal gain over party when he ran as an independent. And now he’s thrown reality to the curb in order to boost McCain. What I can’t fathom is why the Democrats still give this guy power?! It really is one of the more mind bogging things about politics right now to me.



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