Former FBI Official: After 9/11, White House Told FBI To Blame Anthrax Attacks On Al Qaeda
Former FBI Official: After 9/11, White House Told FBI To Blame Anthrax Attacks On Al Qaeda
Last week, Bruce Ivins, a government scientist who researched anthrax and was expected to be charged in connection with the 2001 attacks, reportedly committed suicide. As Glenn Greenwald has noted, President Bush and his administration initially attempted to link the anthrax attacks to Iraq.
The New York Daily News has a new twist in the administration’s attempt to peg the anthrax attacks to its own bellicose aims. Immediately after 9/11, the Daily News reports, “White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda,” according to a former FBI official:
After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens, Mueller was “beaten up” during President Bush’s morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide.
“They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East,” the retired senior FBI official told The News.
As the Daily News noted, similar to its efforts with Iraq, the White House on multiple occasions suggested that the anthrax attacks were tied to al Qaeda operatives abroad:
On October 15, 2001, President Bush said, “There may be some possible link” to Bin Laden, adding, “I wouldn’t put it past him.” Vice President Cheney also said Bin Laden’s henchmen were trained “how to deploy and use these kinds of substances, so you start to piece it all together.”
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) claimed “some of this anthrax may…have come from Iraq,” suggesting that the “second phase” of the war on terror may be in Iraq.
The claims, however, were quickly rejected by experts, who “told us this was not something some guy in a cave could come up with,” the former FBI official said. “They couldn’t go from box cutters one week to weapons-grade anthrax the next.”
As press reports have indicated, while the source of the attacks is still unknown, a large body of evidence points towards Ivins’s lab in Ft. Detrick, Maryland. For the Bush administration, however, the evidence doesn’t seem to matter until after the case for war is made.
Iraq declared 8,500 liters of anthrax, but UNSCOM estimates that Saddam Hussein could have produced 25,000 liters. If concentrated into this dry form, this amount would be enough to fill tens upon tens upon tens of thousands of teaspoons. And Saddam Hussein has not verifiably accounted for even one teaspoon-full of this deadly material.
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Reminiscent of the initial reaction after 9/11, as told by Richard Clarke, “See if Saddam did this…”
All that these nitwits saw these major terrorist incidents as was political opportunity and chance to grind personal axes no matter what the cost.
August 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pmFYI: Glen Greenwald at Salon.com has some good essays on the anthrax story and Ivins.
August 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pmI think the Bush WH has its fingerprints all over this.
August 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pmAnthrax was an inside job, as was 9/11.
¶ AIO
August 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pmA little over the top CT, you’re going to let everybody know what you really are.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pmHow many of us are going to really believe that one lonely misguided government worker (who is now conveniently dead) did it?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pmWhy hasn’t the media jumped all over McCain’s announcement that the anthrax was from Iraq. Probably because they’re too busy replaying the ad with Obama being linked to Paris and Britney.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmI should no longer be surprised, yet continue to find myself amazed at the level of lies and propoganda that were inflicted on the American people by their leaders.
And dear Nancy says she’s yet to see any sign that a crime was committed by this administration. I have no respect for her, and she’d better be replaced by the next congress.
PEACE
August 4th, 2008 at 2:05 pm9-11 was a false flag attack. pnac even said so. put bushco under oath and let them answer the unanswered…
August 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pmThe BushCo. M.O. seems to be; never let the facts get in the way of a predetermined agenda.
I’m back from vacation, quite relaxing. I didn’t get to the threads until a short while ago- up to my eyeballs in people needing their lab work done. This usually happens when we’re gone for a week. The entire office was closed.
Went to Hippiefest 2008 last Saturday. Catch it if you can.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:09 pmMelanie, Badfinger, Jack Bruce, and Eric Burdon & the Animals. Truly great show.
Two choices:
>This WH knew that the attacks were done by one person and chose to exploit it to attack Iraq.
>The attack was done by more than one person with the help of the agency. Again, this was used to help the case for Iraq.
Either way, they knew Iraq had nothing to do with the anthrax, but there was some serious money to be made by looting our treasury. The evidence is mounting that this WH allegedly committed war crimes. Go ahead. Listen to the “yellow cake in Niger” segment of the state of the union address in January, 2003.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pm.
WHAT TIES TO AL-CIA-DUH?
… and yet America had to invade Iraq….
I smell F E A R!
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August 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pmThe idea that Ivins acted alone , or even more preposterous , that he was attempting to test his antidote , is a complete bunch of happy horseshit that this administration obviously spoon-fed to the MSM ; add this sorry episode/incident to the mountainous sorry stains on the US’ image and reputation……
August 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pm.
WHAT ELSE WAS USED TO SCARE US INTO AN ATTACK AGAISNT IRAQ?
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August 4th, 2008 at 2:14 pm.
REMEMBER:
9/11 happened on Bush’s watch.
He prevented nothing!
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August 4th, 2008 at 2:15 pmThe claims, however, were quickly rejected by experts, who “told us this was not something some guy in a cave could come up with,” the former FBI official said. “They couldn’t go from box cutters one week to weapons-grade anthrax the next.”
I don’t wqant to start any 9/11-conspiracy talk here, so let’s just agree that a lot had to go the terrosists’ way in order for those attacks to be as successful as they were. They could have been, and should have been, stopped at any number of points along the way.
It makes no sense, therefore, that they would have launched this massive 9/11-attack that could have been a spectacular failure if they had Antrax sitting around waiting to be deployed.
There was never any serious “speculation” that Iraq was behind the Antrax, only accusations without foundation.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:16 pmMax-1 Says:
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REMEMBER:
9/11 happened on Bush’s watch.
He prevented nothing!
elect mcINSANE and expect the exact same.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:19 pms/b “al Qaida”, not “Iraq” (but there was never evidence to suspect them, either.)
August 4th, 2008 at 2:19 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
I don’t wqant to start any 9/11-conspiracy talk here, so let’s just agree that a lot had to go the terrosists’ way in order for those attacks to be as successful as they were.
depends on which “terrorists” you are talking about….
define which “terrorists” you are talking about, and maybe we can agree….
August 4th, 2008 at 2:21 pmBut, but, but, I thought that there was bentonite in the anthrax, which was a fingerprint of Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs!
What do you mean that Saddam really did shut down his weapons program like David Kay said and the anthrax really came from Ft. Detrick?
How are we going to invade Iraq for its oil now?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:27 pmOkay so maybe the anthrax in the anthrax ripple didn’t come from Iraq but remember the freshest of baby frogs in the crunchy frog did indeed…
August 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pmRemember how that Bush regime investigation into the anthrax terrorist attacks against Democrats and the news media slowed down to an absolute crawl, as slow as molasses-in-January as folks say, once it was determined that it was a Made-in-USA brand of anthrax? Now, some seven (7) years later, the Bush regime is trying to close down their investigation, just before they leave town… We need to get to the bottom of this…
August 4th, 2008 at 2:34 pmI’m sure Saddaam had anthrax, and his boys had model airplanes they were going to use to deliver it, to the White House.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:36 pmFormer FBI Official: After 9/11, White House Told FBI To Blame Anthrax Attacks On Al Qaeda
Pretty suspicious that the white house pressured them to conclude Al Qaeda did it, when the targets were liberal lawmakers and press that was speaking out against Bushco at the time.
Trying to cover up a crime and the real perps is a crime by itself.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:38 pmWhere’s Sargent Friday and his “just the facts, M’am” perspective? Instead, we have President Goober W. Bush all amped up for family revenge and clearing the slate for American oil companies. Iraq is #3 on the list of proven oil reserves.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:39 pmThis whole thing just stinks! I used to be suspicious of things my gov’t told me but now it’s a real sad day when you can no longer believe ANYTHING our gov’t tells us.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:41 pmBy next week McCain will forget about the Ivins story and he’ll be blaming the anthrax on Iran while singing Bomb, Bomb, Bomb and Lil Joe will be cheering him on.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:42 pmFan of Man Says:
Wayne A. Schneider Says:
I don’t wqant to start any 9/11-conspiracy talk here, so let’s just agree that a lot had to go the terrosists’ way in order for those attacks to be as successful as they were.
depends on which “terrorists” you are talking about….
define which “terrorists” you are talking about, and maybe we can agree….
August 4th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I was deliberately being vague, as I did not want to give anyone (regardless of their 9/11 theories) the opportunity to derail the thread. My point was only that a 9/11-style attack, when you have Antrax to work with instead, makes no sense.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmI’m still trying to figure out why Ivrins, in light of the various suspicions about him, was allowed daily access to a weapons lab which contained such nasty stuff. If the government had such a strong case that they can close the investigation upon his death, one would think they could have kept him out of the lab where he could have caused unmeasured mayhem.
I smell Bushco’s particular brand of BS.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmAt this point, we have become so numbed by this administration we could have Cheney claim in an interview that 9/11 was a set-up by Bushco from the get-go. He could say they had to orchestrate 9/11 because they needed to demonstrate how big a threat Al Qaeda was, so they would be justified in invading Iraq (the fact that makes no sense isn’t a problem, of course). And here’s what would happen –
1. About a quarter of the country (the kool-aid drinkers) would claim that Cheney was justified in doing what he did to make our country safer for everyone.
2. About another quarter of the country would be totally outraged and angrily petition Congress to do something about these obvious criminal acts. Congress would claim it’s off the table, talk about “moving forward”, and nothing would get done.
3. The rest of the country might just tsk tsk and say “see — we knew they were all crooks anyway”, and then return to their video games.
Will we ever wake up and demand accountability in our leaders? Or do we care only about their sex lives and whether they wear a flag pin?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:44 pmFrom Glenn Greenwald’s 8-3-08 Salon article:
“Did the FBI meaningfully investigate who sent an anonymous letter to the FBI after the anthrax letters were sent, but before they were made public, accusing a former Fort Detrick scientist — the Arab-American Ayaad Assaad — of being a “potential biological terrorist,” after Assaad was forced out of Fort Detrick by a group of USAMRIID bioweapons researchers who had exhibited extreme anti-Arab animus? [Laura Rozen, Salon, 1/26/2002)”
So, did Ivins exhibit “extreme anti-Arab animus?” Was he one of the USAMRIID bioweapons researchers who forced out this Arab-American scientist at Ft. Detrick?
When one combines Greenwald’s question to the fact that the lethal anthrax letters contained messages supposedly from some Arab/Muslim, I’d say that whoever mailed the lethal anthrax letters definitely had an axe to grind against Arabs/Muslims.
Then, we have the false “bentonite” claim being made, apparently originating once again from within this same USAMRIID group at Ft. Detrick, with someone trying to pin the lethal anthrax attacks on Saddam Hussein.
So, once again, did Ivins have a history of “extreme anti-Arab animus?” Or was it someone else at the USAMRIID?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:45 pmThat’s what we were told, db. But how do we know that Constable Clitoris wasn’t on the BushCO payroll and just repeating talking points?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:46 pmNone of the agencies of this government are to be trusted.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:47 pmThe phrase from the Downing Street Memo that the intelligence is “being fixed around the policy” comes to mind.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:48 pmas usual the llama makes a very valid point. I retrack my earlier statement
August 4th, 2008 at 2:52 pmHmmmm, U.S. military grade anthrax….government pressuring investigators to point finger at the Middle East….people who worked with Ivins all saying no way, he wasn’t like that and why would a smart scientist use the version of anthrax that came out of his own lab anyway and even if he was involved there’s no way he could have pulled it off himself….
Meanwhile, back at the MSM, case closed!
August 4th, 2008 at 2:52 pmA question for the trolls:
Does it bother you at all that Bush ordered Mueller to “prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda” rather than determine who was responsible? That strikes me as not really caring one way or the other what the truth is. What do you think? Should Bush have ordered Mueller to find out who actually did it, or simply try to prove it was al Qaida?
August 4th, 2008 at 2:54 pmOleHippieChick says;
None of the agencies of this government are to be trusted.
The phrase that comes to mind is; I have a problem with the establishment.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pmRemember they tried to pin this whole thing on Hatfill but he fought back. Just last month the government agreed to a 5.2 million dollar settlement for leaking his name and damaging his reputation. And now Ivins is found dead?! Sounds like someone is trying to get this off the table and under the rug. “Anthrax case? Yeah, solved, the guy responsible killed himself. Nothing else to see here…move along…move along”
August 4th, 2008 at 2:59 pmI don’t believe Ivins did it. ABC needs to come clean with which “gov’t sources” told them about the substance in the anthrax samples that were supposedly linked to Iraq. It was all a lie. And when the people behind that lie are revealed, so will those behind the anthrax situation. Also, probably, 911. The question should always be: who gained the most from both incidents? Where did the power and the money go that resulted from these incidents?
We know the answer. We just need the proof.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:00 pmmary Says:
Hmmmm, U.S. military grade anthrax….
Ah ha! So it was Saddam! And I know where he got it!
Friends Forever?
August 4th, 2008 at 3:00 pmABC needs to come clean with which “gov’t sources” told them about the substance in the anthrax samples that were supposedly linked to Iraq. It was all a lie.
I have long advocated that the MSM begin revealing which Bush administration officials told them things that we later learned not only were they false, but whose falsehood was known at the time it was leaked to a reporter.
By not revealing who the liars were, the only ones being protected are the Bush administration sources. Why keep protecting them? Who benefits from that? Not the people.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:07 pmIt also makes one wonder how many prominent Dems have opened notes which read, “You’ve been infected. Vote no on legislation X to receive the antidote”.
P.S. Keep impeachment off the table.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:10 pmAlso the tape on Letterman at the time where McCain was quick to cast suspicion on Iraq
August 4th, 2008 at 3:12 pmHate to disagree Max, but Chimpy has prevented a lot of things. He prevented agencies like the DOJ, EPA, FDA, Mine Safety and others from doing the jobs they were supposed to do.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pmI have a problem with the term weapons grade/military grade anthrax. As opposed to commercial grade anthrax or consumer anthrax? Should our military be playing around with this sh!t for possible use as an offensive weapon? Why is so much of our tax money spend on tools to kill, but FSM forbid, we give any for health care.
Sorry, I’m just really getting disgusted about the state of our nation lately.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:22 pmper cnn:
‘Authorities were looking at whether Ivins released anthrax as a way to test a vaccine he was working on, another official said.’
Yah right, send it with a badly-written letter saying Death to America, Death to Israel to test out if your vaccine works…something smells awfully fishy!
August 4th, 2008 at 3:35 pmTeleMan, perhaps it is, in a way health care. If they wind up using it on the general population, they won’t have to care about your health.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThey look worse and worse:
Anthrax is in the soil in cattle country. If you want it, growing it out used to be an tech school project for people getting a vet assistant.
Now they can compare the strain with an established strain to know when they’ve found the source.
And “weaponizing” it is a little more specialized but still something any PhD in Micro can do in a small lab. Although hearing the “It is. It isn’t. It is>” after the anthrax scare makes me wonder if it truly had been weaponzied or was still rather crude.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pmThis whole story puts John McCain squarely in the disinformation campaign that preceded the war in Iraq. Why is the media not having a field day with this? Oh yea, that’s right , they are owned by big conglomerates who owe allegiance to Bush for their deregulation!
August 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pmThey also blamed 9/11 on Iraq with the bogus conection Al-Queida/Saddam Hussein. If they were serious about finding out who was behind the false flag military operation, they would disclose who was behind the put options placed on Ameriacan Airlines and United in the stock market. The problem with this is that would implicate the Pentagon and the WH. 9/11 was an inside military (military industry complex)operation. Thermite, which is a military controlled demolition explosive was used to destry the three towers in the WTC. The Pentagon was hit by a military missil.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:59 pmBecause the media is McCain’s base. Obama gets more coverage, but more of it is negative-70/30 as opposed to 50/50 for McCain. This survey from the same people the right was praising in 06 for stating the Dem’s congressional candiates were getting more favorable coverage.
If Obama made half the blunders McCain has made the press would be having a field day.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pmHardy Haberman – you’ve got that right! Even if he wasn’t in on the catapulting the propaganda thing then what kind of judgment did McCain display by sharing such dubious theories about the source of the anthrax to the media and the public?
Sure hope if he becomes president that he won’t attack other countries on such faulty information! Seems kind of reckless!
August 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pmRUCerious Says:
TeleMan, perhaps it is, in a way health care. If they wind up using it on the general population, they won’t have to care about your health.
Yeah, I guess they think that there’s too many poor and not enough jobs, let’s waste them and get the illegals to do it instead. (Damn, I’m getting too cynical. :-( )
August 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pmFascist war criminals!
August 4th, 2008 at 4:12 pmanyone else notice that it’s ABC (read greenwald) is the biggest cheerleader to call this case “closed”?
August 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pmI read this morning that the grand jury wanted to hear several more weeks of testimony before issuing any indictments. Now, the FBI has announced that the investigation will be closed within a couple of days. Kinda makes you wonder what was going to come to light in the next few weeks of grand jury testimony, doesn’t it.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:54 pmThis whole thing just reeks of neocon.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pmAs Glenn Greenwald points out…it was the ANTHRAX Scare that caused the American People to adopt a sense of FEAR and URGENCY about Sadaam Hussein and his ALLEGED Biological Weapons Program.
American’s knew that Saddam had access to Boxcutters and Airline Tickets…but it was his BENTONITE LACED ANTHRAX that scared them into supporting Bush’s Ill- Conceived War on IRAQ.
ABC NEWS KNOWS who the FOUR EXPERTS were, who provided them
with FALSE and MISLEADING Information about “Saddam’s Signature BENTONITE” in the ANTHRAX Samples.
Congress Needs to Find out who they are, and who they work for.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:03 pmMapleStreet Says:
Now they can compare the strain with an established strain to know when they’ve found the source.
And “weaponizing” it is a little more specialized but still something any PhD in Micro can do in a small lab. Although hearing the “It is. It isn’t. It is>” after the anthrax scare makes me wonder if it truly had been weaponzied or was still rather crude.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
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The scientists knew pretty quickly after the mailings that it was the Ames strain, a virlent form of the disease that was allegedly first isolated in a cow somewhere in Texas in the 1980s. Interestingly, the original source may have been the U.S. biowarfare program:
http://www.glue.umd.edu/%7Eatlee/anthrax_attacker.html
August 4th, 2008 at 5:04 pmGeorge W. Bush is King of the Sewer. Pass the word.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:10 pmOT
Everyone please report bitblt for abuse on the KBR cell-phone thread. His comment (19) will make you cringe.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pmTo state the obvious, it was just on TP the other day that certain WH officials were wanting a false flag operation to get into war with Iran also.
How many false flag operations have been done under Shrub ?
August 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pmAugust 1, 2008 Salon.com
Vital Unresolved Anthrax Questions and ABC News
by Glenn Greenwald
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/01/10738/
August 4th, 2008 at 5:29 pmThis is being cleaned up, just like they cleared the steel out of the WTC site and shipped it to China to be melted down. No investigation. Flush this down the memory hole.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:08 pmBadger Says:
[...]
Congress Needs to Find out who they are, and who they work for.
i’d venture they already know…
…
damn… i hate thinking like that of my government…
August 4th, 2008 at 6:37 pmThe only congressional targets were Democrats. Why would Saddam or al Qaeda target Democrats Daschle and Leahy when Bush was in power?
August 4th, 2008 at 7:00 pmIt never made sense.
One thing which cannot be disputed, and we all know is fact:
The Anthrax attacks were carried out by a Rightwinger who used violence to solve his/her problems. Even a highly intellectual person like Ivans resorted to violence to cope with his “differences”. This is a hallmark of Rightwing problem-solving. Sure you could find a couple sociopaths on the left, but the vast majority of violent sociopaths are on the Right. It also seems to be a trend that the disgruntled and dysfunctional Right wingers have problems in with their personal relationships, and just ol’ fashioned gettin’ laid. If Ivans was able to get a nice girl to sex him up, I bet he would have dropped all his obsessive anger. What a dork.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:44 pmThe mainstream media has resisted contacting the actual experts in bio terrorism because they have the very ugly answer which is that the letters with anthrax were sent to frighten key representatives into supporting the Patriot act which was sitting on John Ashcrofts desk September 10, 2001.
Who is Francis A Boyle?
August 5th, 2008 at 9:47 amhttp://www.radiodujour.com/people/boyle_francis
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