Cheney’s argument for not releasing innocent detainees: ‘They’ll all get lawyers.’
Cheney’s argument for not releasing innocent detainees: ‘They’ll all get lawyers.’
In his New York Times review of Jane Mayer’s new book, The Dark Side, Alan Brinkley describes how by the end of 2005, torture advocates within the Bush administration were fighting to continue their extreme detainee program “because they feared being prosecuted should the program be halted and exposed.” In one White House meeting described by Mayer, Vice President Dick Cheney argued against releasing innocent detainees because “they’ll all get lawyers“:
By the end of 2005, those defending the regime of torture were no longer seeking primarily to protect the search for valuable intelligence. They were fighting for its survival, in the face of considerable evidence of the failure of SERE and other programs, because they feared being prosecuted should the program be halted and exposed. Even releasing detainees whom they knew to be entirely innocent was dangerous, since once released they could talk. “People will ask where they’ve been and ‘What have you been doing with them?’” Cheney said in a White House meeting. “They’ll all get lawyers.”
(HT: Noam Scheiber)
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And to think that the 23%ers are proud of this sort of behavior.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:45 pmI think all Americans should get lawyers, too. We have all had our rights trampled and need recourse.
Darth may have just uttered the most truthful words of his worthless career.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:46 pmThey are already printing bumper stickers with: ‘They’ll all get lawyers.’
August 4th, 2008 at 5:47 pm“They’ll all get lawyers.”
And they'll work for free...
August 4th, 2008 at 5:50 pmBut...but I thought we don't torture.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:51 pmMaybe “They’ll all get lawyers” is Nancy Pelosi's reason for not pursuing impeachment against these criminals...?
August 4th, 2008 at 5:51 pmGetcherself a good one, fatboy. See you in Den Hague!
August 4th, 2008 at 5:51 pmSounds like a legit concern.....DUH !!!!
Why are these people not being frog marched to Prison ????
August 4th, 2008 at 5:52 pmWhen he can no longer easily obtain the fresh blood of collie puppies from the Commissary at the Naval Observatory, his vile, decrepit, faltering heart will throw in the towel. Cheney won't live 15 months out of office...
August 4th, 2008 at 5:55 pm@8, TripleDick 6 Says:
meanwhile, ~10% of innocent detainees who’ve been released have been recaptured or killed on the battlefield. Google it
August 4th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
nuthin like a couple of years of torture, solitary confinement, abuse, and psy-ops to turn a nice, formerly innocent, peaceful, kind, gentle taxi-driver into a stone killer, izzer, tripleDick?
August 4th, 2008 at 5:57 pmtokin librul Says:
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Cheney won’t live 15 months out of office…
August 4th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Cheney's been dead for years. He just hasn't fallen down yet...
August 4th, 2008 at 5:59 pm@8, TripleDick 6 Says:
meanwhile, ~10% of innocent detainees who’ve been released have been recaptured or killed on the battlefield. Google it
August 4th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Kill 'em all, and let God/Allah/Jaweh/Cthulu straighten it out, right, TripleDick?
August 4th, 2008 at 5:59 pmSo what's Cheney's solution to permanently disappear them. Obviously then the lives of all the detainees, especially the once completely innocent are in danger. If McCain wins then they can count on him to carry on with this program. Kind of lets you know why Rove is working pro bono for his campaign.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:59 pmHey Trip,
If you quote something, provide the credible sources to back it up. (I won't do your homework for you.) If not, STFU.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:01 pmGee, they speak do derisively of lawyers, but when it came time to find a constitutional basis for allowing them to torture, who did they turn to? Their lawyers.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:03 pmTripleKick 6: No, I did not need to Google it. I watched the Congressional hearing in which the DoD had to admit that it really did not keep any records or had any system for tracking those detainees that had been released. Indeed, those who have studied the claim of released prisoners returning to the field refer to a Pentagon report that was based upon newspaper reports for the vast majority of such alleged individuals. However, I would not be shocked to see some individuals turn into terrorists because of their mistreatment. Nor would it be unusual for some to escape our nets since over 2/3rds of those sent to GITMO never should have been there in the first place. Overwhelm the few really trained and experienced Arabic interrogators and miss some really dangerous people. Yes, to be expected.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:03 pmLawyers?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:04 pmDick will be hiring the entire graduating class of US law schools as long as he is alive! The rest of us will have to rely on foreigners. What are we to do til then?
So this is why Cheney won't be at the GOP convention...
http://www.political-buzz.com/
August 4th, 2008 at 6:04 pmupside99 Says:
Hey Trip,
If you quote something, provide the credible sources to back it up. (I won’t do your homework for you.) If not, STFU.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Yes, please provide a link, TK MMIX. What search terms did you use in your search? And how old is the report on which you base this claim? And how did they arrve at this "ten percent" figure, when they don't even want to acknowledge how many people they have detained right now? It sounds like more of the same propaganda lies they've been telling all along to justify the unjustifiable.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:06 pmTriplehick believes some of the detainees have been released. What an idiot.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:07 pm10% of innocent detainees who’ve been released have been recaptured or killed on the battlefield. Google it
I googled it. Here's what I found:
"It is also wildly inaccurate to claim, as some have done, that at least 30 former Guantanamo detainees have been "killed or captured" on the battlefield, fighting against U.S. forces. Earlier this week, for example, Fox News commentator Dick Morris said that 50 former GITMO detainees had been "killed or captured by our forces" after being released. The Pentagon report lists one former detainee killed while fighting U.S. forces in Afghanistan and one killed by Afghan forces. Another former detainee blew himself up to avoid capture by Pakistani security forces."
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/from_gitmo_to_the_battlefield.html
In fact, every article on the first page was debunking the myth. Maybe you should have googled it yourself, pal.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:11 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
meanwhile, ~10% of innocent detainees who’ve been released have been recaptured or killed on the battlefield. Google it
You are wrong dipsh!t. I can imagine after 6+ years of torture, we TURNED THEM INTO TERRORISTS, BUT THEY WERN'T LIKE THAT AT THE BEGINNING. Is that what the right side wants? Continued war and instability?
What do you get out of the bargain TK (1-infinity). Is it that you feel part of the kewl kids club? Does it give you a feeling of power - that you don't have in 'real life'. Does it give you a feeling of superiority - that you don't have in real life? What do you get out of this assault on humanity?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:17 pm23. Trip way to dodge 22.cmac
August 4th, 2008 at 6:19 pmTrip, You should google more, post less
August 4th, 2008 at 6:21 pmIn his New York Times review of Jane Mayer’s new book, The Dark Side, Alan Brinkley describes how by the end of 2005, torture advocates within the Bush administration were fighting to continue their extreme detainee program “because they feared being prosecuted should the program be halted and exposed.”
Well, you know that's what happens when you open Pandora's box. It's really not possible to shut it again. I think many people in our government are going to be walking around under a cloud for many years to come, not knowing if or when they will be prosecuted.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:22 pmTrip, I was wrong. You should google less. You just google til you find something you already believe (must take a while).
August 4th, 2008 at 6:23 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
cmac, u r wrong. Your google powers are sad. This information is easily available. Belive what u like. Detainees aren’t going anywhere.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
It's your unbelievable claim. You provide the proof. If the information is "easily avaliable", then make it available to us. That should be easy, right?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:25 pmTrip has no source, he/she just makes shit up and hopes no one will challenge him/her.
Then has the balls to say someone else has to prove his/her stupid comment. Would never make it in a sophomore debate class, Trip.
BUZZZZZ! Sorry, you lose!
August 4th, 2008 at 6:27 pmTk making accusations agains JMohr? You're joking right Tk? I mean JMOHR doesn't have a 6 behind his name does he.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:28 pmI think many people in our government are going to be walking around under a cloud for many years to come, not knowing if or when they will be prosecuted.
Good! That's way better than not bothering to prosecute at all. Once they learn they are no longer being looked at, they'll relax and feel better. But if the ones who know they did illegal things have to walk around worrying about being prosecuted for their actions, never knowing when the shoe is going to fall (on their heads), that's even better. Let them sweat and worry about it. Maybe some of them will develop consciences (or have children) and decide to come forward and make a deal to reveal what they know to avoid prison.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:28 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
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That should be easy, right?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Come on, Wayne -- it's a troll! :D
August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pmIf the Right is looking to call someone the antiChrist: Cheney would fit the bill. He would appear to be evil personified (in a limited way since he seems without personhood).
August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
tell dan pearl’s widow that KSM is “innocent”.
Who TF ever said KSM was innocent or guilty? Nobody here. He hasn't been tried yet. And, he is still in captivity. What's your point, other than just spouting stuff?
As I said before, you are a piss poor debater. Were you home-schooled?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pmStop feeding this idiot troll, y'all. He's really getting off here.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:33 pmZoo,
Sorry, U R right (per usual). Just hard to let it get away with that kind of crap. Either provide a credible source or go away.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:35 pm“Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.”
Martin Luther King Jr.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:36 pmWhy should we, TK? As I said, you were the one making the claim and you expect us to do your research? Show us the link that proves the claim you made, and we'll consider it. It's "easily available", but you seem to have a hard time producing it.
Otherwise, you're just making it up.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:37 pmSo, by extension, every person who is acquitted of a crime should be kept in jail, right?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:38 pmZooey, you're probably right (as usual), but sometimes we need to practice putting down the stupid arguments some of the trolls make. I would love to debate him on the merits of his position, but it appears his position has no merits.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:39 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
meanwhile, ~10% of innocent detainees who’ve been released have been recaptured or killed on the battlefield. Google it
And I'm betting those 10% had nothing to do with terrorism when they went into Gitmo. But by the time they left, after being tortured and treated like scum, they became terrorists because they hated the people who had done it to them. I can hardly blame them.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:39 pmGuys,
You can't fix stupid, you can't teach it a thing, and you sure can't debate it.
Just sayin'...
August 4th, 2008 at 6:42 pmI have seen this tired argument before, what your not saying is WHO relased them.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:44 pmThis is just sick. These fkcers have to go down-- impeachment, the Hague, or if all else fails revolutionary justice...
August 4th, 2008 at 6:44 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
Wayne,
Keep your head in the sand where it’s safe.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
From what, those one out of ten detainees released? Still waiting for your proof of your claim. Simply telling me I can't hide doesn't prove to me I should ever have to.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:46 pmTripleKick 6 Says:
cmac, u r wrong. Your google powers are sad. This information is easily available. Belive what u like. Detainees aren’t going anywhere.
They may not be going anywhere as long as the Bush Crime Family is in control. But, I'm betting that Obama will be able to work out a solution that is fair to these people. I think that reparations would be in order along with finding them a safe place to live (but not in the US because we have made them hate us).
August 4th, 2008 at 6:47 pmAugust 4th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
So much for TripleKicks googling powers.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:50 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
Zooey, you’re probably right (as usual), but sometimes we need to practice putting down the stupid arguments some of the trolls make. I would love to debate him on the merits of his position, but it appears his position has no merits.
It is incapable of debate. It proved that a long time ago (I think it was version 2. It really is useless to try to engage idiot trolls like this one. All it can do is to throw out something then refuse to prove what it says because "it's easy to find". If it's so easy to find, why can't the troll find it.
This troll is really boring. Nothing to stimulate the intellect in any way.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:50 pmTripleKick 6 Says:When u never win at the ballot box, screw democracy and revolt. Unbelievable
2006 wasnt a win? And what revolution? Who called the constitution a GD piece of paper?
Typical scared righty, wants to destroy our freedoms because the terrorists hate our freedoms.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:53 pmNo, you said detainees, the ones in Gitmo are detainees just as they are in Iraq.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pmAugust 4th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Bilbo,
I guess you're right about the troll. I see a lot of psychological projecting in their posts. They like to accuse us of the things that we on the left don't normally do, but that those on the right feel some kind of God-given right to do. He can't back up his claims, and accuses us of being lazy because we refuse to just accept what he says without question. Who does he think we are, conservatives?
Oh, well. I guess I won't waste any more time with Tripple Ick 2009. He won't help me improve my debating skills because he refuses to debate.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pmThey will all get lawyers....and so they should. And they should all hold Bush and Cheney personally responsible! Talk about deep pockets!
August 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pmXisthrus,
Debating trip is like stabbing a fart with a pitchfork; you can't see what you are stabbing at as the target keeps shifting in the wind.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pmTriplekick thinks Iraqis swam over to Gitmo and got captured there? Bwah. Wheres your proof that they were returned to Gitmo after being recaptured? How do you know they werent detainees in Iraq prisons?
August 4th, 2008 at 6:58 pmupside99 Says:
Xisthrus,
Debating trip is like stabbing a fart with a pitchfork; you can’t see what you are stabbing at as the target keeps shifting in the wind.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I wouldn't know what that's like, as I have never tried to stab a fart. But, from what you know of stabbing a fart with a pitchfork, is there some technique we could use that would give us more success in debating trip?
August 4th, 2008 at 7:00 pmLol U99.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:02 pmAnd you think that 8 billion in cash that went missing went where?
August 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pmPlease dont feed the trolls.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pmNo Wayne, was just a metaphor for why debating this particular troll is not worth the effort.
Trip makes vague statements, never has credible sources quoted, won't respond to direct questions and is obviously not a formally educated or trained debater. Just like most of the Repugs.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pmThey'll all get lawyers
So?
I couldn't resist throwing that in, the Devil made me do it.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:09 pmIm not feeding it im poking it with sticks.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:09 pmJust google "alien abduction" , read the plethora of stories supporting my assertion that alien abduction and probing is a serious and recurring problem, and do the math. I'll accept your apologies after I finish getting this probing...
August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pmupside99 Says:
Trip makes vague statements, never has credible sources quoted, won’t respond to direct questions and is obviously not a formally educated or trained debater. Just like most of the Repugs.
Sounds like a good reason to make tripplekick 6 have to create #7
Not only can it not debate, it has the spelling skills of a first grader.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pmI showed you where some 10k detainees were released this year, thats more than even holds, and almost as many were released in 2007. Re-read my post, the military found that LASS THAN 1%, NOT 10%, made it back to the battlefield out of more than 10,ooo released.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pmshould be *thats more than Gitmo even holds.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:15 pmupside99 Says:
No Wayne, was just a metaphor for why debating this particular troll is not worth the effort.
Trip makes vague statements, never has credible sources quoted, won’t respond to direct questions and is obviously not a formally educated or trained debater. Just like most of the Repugs.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Good point. But why stop there? Why, we could use the same kind of "logic" they use and specualte about all sorts of things.
For example, this troll is obviously an authoritarian conservative, so he probably doesn't do much of his own research or thinking. He probably takes the e-mail with talking points that he gets from either the RNC or som right-wing publication, comes on to lefty websites and starts spewing the nonsense. Since he doesn't understand what he's talking about, he can't defend what he says. And that's his problem - he relies on talking points and not sound arguments. If they had a sound argument to support their view ("sound" meaning it conforms to reality, not just that it sounds good), one would think they would post it and tell us to suck on it. But they don't. They just spew talking points that have never been caught in public with facts. He would make things a lot easier if, after he spews the talking points, whenever he gets challenged on them, he would just say, "I don't know why I posted that. I was told to, and I do what I'm told."
August 4th, 2008 at 7:15 pmOops... Triplek7 on the way!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pmAugust 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Darth Cheney’s argument for not releasing innocent detainees: ‘They’ll all get lawyers.'
Yup, that's Supreme Leader Dick, a man with no heart from the Sith Adminstration. And he has certainly earned his less than 20% of approval ratings.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pmIf TK (1-infinity) shows up and not one person regards its presence, does it really exist? I would say no, it doesn't really exist. If nobody acknowledges TK existance, then there will be no TK. If nobody regards TK, then it will be forced back to where it came. We are wasting our time and energy debating a creature who has no business in the progressive world - none. TK has an affinity circle at Red State, Hot Air, etc...Why on earth would it show up here - day after day - when it has a club of its own? Could be it is outclassed at the other GOP sites? Could it be that he just likes to pee in our playground? Don't know, but for me - I am done with it. Don't feed the trolls, they will - and I mean will - go away.
TK - and it's similar losers - are not helping this country one bit. It seems they are hell-bent on destroying the very country they live in - all to be a part of the kewl club.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:19 pmWhats 10% of 517 TripleThick?
51 Detainees have made it back to the battlefield by your 'math'
Meanwhile 1% of 10,000 detainees released from Iraq prisons have made it back to the battlefield. The military expects this, so I dont understand your argument, its rather pointless.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:22 pmEven releasing detainees whom they knew to be entirely innocent was dangerous, since once released they could talk.
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...but...but...but...if we're not doing anything wrong, we have nothing to hide -- right?
Why does Cheney sound like a criminal who's taking care of all the "loose ends"?
August 4th, 2008 at 7:24 pmIt seems to me the troops are doing a good job integrating detainees back into society and Im pretty sure that 1% [or less] that did get recaptured wont be released anytime soon.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:25 pmPut a fart in a wet paper bag.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:26 pmDamn the lawyers! Full speed ahead!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:35 pmbilbo!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:51 pmGreat idea! Let's cut a check to the terrorists! With bushco killing terrorists, al queda is finding it difficult to fund terrorism. Way to step up! America's enemies will thank you before beheading you.
Faiz, giving that your 501 status is already under serious jeopardy, is this really how you want to spend Soros' money? Wow
Shucks, Marshall Dillon, gunclinger's comin' to town!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pmAs a general rule of thumb, if someone abbreviates three-letter words such as "you" and "are", I wouldn't expect much as far as their research and debating skills.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:06 pmgunclinger,
What's happenin'? Ya just cleaned your guns and have a woody and want to bring it here?
We REALLY don't want to see it, K?
BTW, I am sure Faiz is really skert of you, too.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:11 pmFYI: Today the Loonie closed at just over 96 cents, US...
August 4th, 2008 at 8:20 pmgunclinger Says:
bilbo!
Great idea! Let’s cut a check to the terrorists! With bushco killing terrorists, al queda is finding it difficult to fund terrorism. Way to step up! America’s enemies will thank you before beheading you.
Why not just sell them weapons at cut rate prices like Reagan?
Since you folks have historically support terrorists, we could save money by cutting out the middleman!
August 4th, 2008 at 8:35 pmNot only that, but the detainee lawyers will be from reputable schools while the DOJ lawyers will all be loyal Bushies from Regents U.
So If I think someone is going to sue me, I can kidnap them to prevent it ?
August 4th, 2008 at 8:52 pmSounds to me like the Big Dick is afraid of the rule of law.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pmIf you want to learn more about detainees and their innocence, I recommend reading "Inside the wire" by Erik Saar.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:41 pmZooey said:
Maybe “They’ll all get lawyers” is Nancy Pelosi’s reason for not pursuing impeachment against these criminals…?
As despicable as Cheney is--and he's just about as bad as it gets--at least some of the Democrats are culpable as well having known all along what's been going on.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 4th, 2008 at 9:56 pmThe more I reead about Cheney, the more he reminds me of a terrorist. Or perhaps, a better comparison is Saddam Hussein.
* Both used their government positions to create wars and fatten their back accounts.
* Both had no problem killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's.
* Both had no problems torturing people.
The only differences I notice is one had a beard, the other wears flag pins in his business suits.
If there was a just God, Dick Cheney would be thrown in jail, stripped naked, and waterboarded for his crimes. Then keep him incommunicado and without legal representation for 7 years. Then, we'll just hold him indefinitely because he might hire lawyers to, you know, sue on behalf of loss of his civil rights.
The only difference between Dick and 95% of the detainees in Gitmo is that he is a terrorist that should be charged with war crimes. He is the antithesis of the ideals of this country.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:57 pmThis Dick Cheney response, "they'll all get lawyers," was the same response he probably made when the illegal warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens was exposed several years ago.
Which was true. Lawyers were hired and lawsuits pressed against the complicit telecom companies who'd caved to pressure from the criminal Republicans in the Bush administration (or were just seeking lucrative government contracts so didn't want to refuse a blatantly illegal Bush administration demand to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants).
So, of course, Bush, Cheney and their fellow criminal Republicans got a lapdog Congress (and leaders like Reid and Pelosi) to give retroactive immunity to all the telecom companies, letting them get away with their illegal, anti-American acts, and shutting down all the civil suits pending against the telecoms in court.
Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by "the rule of law," which really, really irritates him.
Impeach Cheney!!! Impeach Bush!!! Impeach Mukasey!!! Impeach all the criminal Republicans, before it's too late for our country!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pmwizard2000 Says:
Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by “the rule of law,” which really, really irritates him.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
The rest of the post was excellent, but this line was absolutely perfect - nice work, wizard2000.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:38 pmThe 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
August 5th, 2008 at 12:22 am#2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
Gunclingingmoron. When did they become terrorists again? Did I miss the trial? No there werent any. What evidence is there that every one of them is a terrorist? That President Gump said so and you are brainwashed enough to repeat whatever you are told to believe? Did you know the Uigers were NEVER considered combatants of any kind and we kept them for years basically because we didnt know what to do with them? That we PAID a bounty for these guys and they were handed over by the Afghani warlords? I mean you do understand you are a complete idiot dont you?
August 5th, 2008 at 12:27 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
Since when has Justice been beneath America that it's leaders fear it?
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August 5th, 2008 at 1:25 am.
When the molesting husband turns to the wife and insists on not letting Cindi return to school because she might tell authorities, you know he's guilty...
When that mother is confronted at the grocery store by one of her neighbors and she decries, "I haven't seen any evidence..." you know she's lying...
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August 5th, 2008 at 1:33 amGEORGE: Be brave, then; for your Commander-in-Chief is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in 'Murika seven halfpenny loaves sold for a penny; the three-hooped pot shall have ten hoops; and I will make it felony to drink small beer. All the realm shall be in common, and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass. And when I am king,—as king I will be,—
GOP: God save your majesty!
BUSH: I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.
DICK: The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.
With apologies to Bill S.
August 5th, 2008 at 2:12 am>“They’ll all get lawyers.”
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>And they’ll work for free…
Youngsters..want to REALLY piss off people like Dick Cheney? Become a lawyer. Lawyers represent accoutability, which Is one of the things they hate the most.
August 5th, 2008 at 5:54 amTripleKick 6 Says:
tell dan pearl’s widow that KSM is “innocent”.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
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Have you read her book? She's not sure that KSM killed Daniel Pearl, either. She'd rather learn the truth by honest means than have a false confession waterboarded out of someone so the Bush Administration can claim success.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:45 amterrorism: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
August 5th, 2008 at 8:18 amDoesn't that description define this administration's actions? (and BTW, also McCain's)
gunclinger Says:
bilbo!
Great idea! Let’s cut a check to the terrorists!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
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Isn't that what we did in Iraq with the Awakening Councils?
August 5th, 2008 at 8:35 amAlso - The Dark Side should be required reading for all voters before this election.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:37 amAugust 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
What ever happened to the provision in the Constitution on "due process"? Obviously Cheney has a problem with the Constitution he is sworn to uphold. No surprise there.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pmq
August 11th, 2008 at 3:50 pm