Comments on: Cheney’s argument for not releasing innocent detainees: ‘They’ll all get lawyers.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:03:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: TripleKick 8 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5151652 TripleKick 8 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5151652 q q

]]> By: DallasNE http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5138502 DallasNE Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:36:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5138502 What ever happened to the provision in the Constitution on "due process"? Obviously Cheney has a problem with the Constitution he is sworn to uphold. No surprise there. What ever happened to the provision in the Constitution on “due process”? Obviously Cheney has a problem with the Constitution he is sworn to uphold. No surprise there.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5137228 sacopenapa Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:55:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5137228 <strong> <blockquote>Chenney should be behind barrs, waiting for his trial and execution for WAR CRIMES! HAGUE 2009!</blockquote> </strong>

Chenney should be behind barrs, waiting for his trial and execution for WAR CRIMES! HAGUE 2009!

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5136256 hussein toasterhead Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:37:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136256 Also - <i>The Dark Side</i> should be required reading for all voters before this election. Also – The Dark Side should be required reading for all voters before this election.

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5136254 hussein toasterhead Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:35:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136254 <i>gunclinger Says: bilbo! Great idea! Let’s cut a check to the terrorists! August 4th, 2008 at 7:51 pm </i> ______ Isn't that what we did in Iraq with the Awakening Councils? gunclinger Says:

bilbo!
Great idea! Let’s cut a check to the terrorists!

August 4th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
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Isn’t that what we did in Iraq with the Awakening Councils?

]]> By: qatwoman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-3/#comment-5136250 qatwoman Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:18:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136250 <strong>terrorism</strong>: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion Doesn't that description define this administration's actions? (and BTW, also McCain's) terrorism: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
Doesn’t that description define this administration’s actions? (and BTW, also McCain’s)

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136238 hussein toasterhead Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:45:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136238 <i>TripleKick 6 Says: tell dan pearl’s widow that KSM is “innocent”. August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pm </i> ________ Have you read her book? She's not sure that KSM killed Daniel Pearl, either. She'd rather learn the truth by honest means than have a false confession waterboarded out of someone so the Bush Administration can claim success. TripleKick 6 Says:
tell dan pearl’s widow that KSM is “innocent”.

August 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
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Have you read her book? She’s not sure that KSM killed Daniel Pearl, either. She’d rather learn the truth by honest means than have a false confession waterboarded out of someone so the Bush Administration can claim success.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136204 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:54:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136204 >“They’ll all get lawyers.” > >And they’ll work for free… Youngsters..want to REALLY piss off people like Dick Cheney? Become a lawyer. Lawyers represent accoutability, which Is one of the things they hate the most. >“They’ll all get lawyers.”
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>And they’ll work for free…

Youngsters..want to REALLY piss off people like Dick Cheney? Become a lawyer. Lawyers represent accoutability, which Is one of the things they hate the most.

]]> By: Iolair http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136138 Iolair Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:12:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136138 GEORGE: Be brave, then; for your Commander-in-Chief is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in 'Murika seven halfpenny loaves sold for a penny; the three-hooped pot shall have ten hoops; and I will make it felony to drink small beer. All the realm shall be in common, and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass. <strong>And when I am king,—as king I will be,— </strong> GOP: God save your majesty! BUSH: I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship <strong>me</strong> their lord. DICK: The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers. With apologies to Bill S. GEORGE: Be brave, then; for your Commander-in-Chief is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in ‘Murika seven halfpenny loaves sold for a penny; the three-hooped pot shall have ten hoops; and I will make it felony to drink small beer. All the realm shall be in common, and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass. And when I am king,—as king I will be,—

GOP: God save your majesty!

BUSH: I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

DICK: The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.

With apologies to Bill S.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136118 Max-1 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:33:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136118 . When the molesting husband turns to the wife and insists on not letting Cindi return to school because she might tell authorities, you know he's guilty... When that mother is confronted at the grocery store by one of her neighbors and she decries, "I haven't seen any evidence..." you know she's lying... . .

When the molesting husband turns to the wife and insists on not letting Cindi return to school because she might tell authorities, you know he’s guilty…

When that mother is confronted at the grocery store by one of her neighbors and she decries, “I haven’t seen any evidence…” you know she’s lying…

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]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136112 Max-1 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:25:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136112 . <strong>Q U E S T I O N:</strong> Since when has Justice been beneath America that it's leaders fear it? . .

Q U E S T I O N:

Since when has Justice been beneath America that it’s leaders fear it?

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]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136068 EugeneDebs Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:27:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136068 Gunclingingmoron. When did they become terrorists again? Did I miss the trial? No there werent any. What evidence is there that every one of them is a terrorist? That President Gump said so and you are brainwashed enough to repeat whatever you are told to believe? Did you know the Uigers were NEVER considered combatants of any kind and we kept them for years basically because we didnt know what to do with them? That we PAID a bounty for these guys and they were handed over by the Afghani warlords? I mean you do understand you are a complete idiot dont you? Gunclingingmoron. When did they become terrorists again? Did I miss the trial? No there werent any. What evidence is there that every one of them is a terrorist? That President Gump said so and you are brainwashed enough to repeat whatever you are told to believe? Did you know the Uigers were NEVER considered combatants of any kind and we kept them for years basically because we didnt know what to do with them? That we PAID a bounty for these guys and they were handed over by the Afghani warlords? I mean you do understand you are a complete idiot dont you?

]]> By: TeleMan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5136056 TeleMan Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:22:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5136056 <strong>The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism #2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights</strong> - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, <strong>long incarcerations of prisoners</strong>, etc. The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
#2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135954 Jane E. Schneider Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:38:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135954 <em>wizard2000 Says: Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by “the rule of law,” which really, really irritates him. August 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pm</em> The rest of the post was excellent, but this line was absolutely perfect - nice work, wizard2000. wizard2000 Says:

Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by “the rule of law,” which really, really irritates him.

August 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

The rest of the post was excellent, but this line was absolutely perfect – nice work, wizard2000.

]]> By: wizard2000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135944 wizard2000 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:30:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135944 This Dick Cheney response, "they'll all get lawyers," was the same response he probably made when the illegal warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens was exposed several years ago. Which was true. Lawyers were hired and lawsuits pressed against the complicit telecom companies who'd caved to pressure from the criminal Republicans in the Bush administration (or were just seeking lucrative government contracts so didn't want to refuse a blatantly illegal Bush administration demand to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants). So, of course, Bush, Cheney and their fellow criminal Republicans got a lapdog Congress (and leaders like Reid and Pelosi) to give retroactive immunity to all the telecom companies, letting them get away with their illegal, anti-American acts, and shutting down all the civil suits pending against the telecoms in court. Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by "the rule of law," which really, really irritates him. Impeach Cheney!!! Impeach Bush!!! Impeach Mukasey!!! Impeach all the criminal Republicans, before it's too late for our country!!! This Dick Cheney response, “they’ll all get lawyers,” was the same response he probably made when the illegal warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens was exposed several years ago.

Which was true. Lawyers were hired and lawsuits pressed against the complicit telecom companies who’d caved to pressure from the criminal Republicans in the Bush administration (or were just seeking lucrative government contracts so didn’t want to refuse a blatantly illegal Bush administration demand to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants).

So, of course, Bush, Cheney and their fellow criminal Republicans got a lapdog Congress (and leaders like Reid and Pelosi) to give retroactive immunity to all the telecom companies, letting them get away with their illegal, anti-American acts, and shutting down all the civil suits pending against the telecoms in court.

Cheney hates lawyers because lawyers tend to operate by “the rule of law,” which really, really irritates him.

Impeach Cheney!!! Impeach Bush!!! Impeach Mukasey!!! Impeach all the criminal Republicans, before it’s too late for our country!!!

]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135924 Innocent Bystander Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:57:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135924 The more I reead about Cheney, the more he reminds me of a terrorist. Or perhaps, a better comparison is Saddam Hussein. * Both used their government positions to create wars and fatten their back accounts. * Both had no problem killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's. * Both had no problems torturing people. The only differences I notice is one had a beard, the other wears flag pins in his business suits. If there was a just God, Dick Cheney would be thrown in jail, stripped naked, and waterboarded for his crimes. Then keep him incommunicado and without legal representation for 7 years. Then, we'll just hold him indefinitely because he might hire lawyers to, you know, sue on behalf of loss of his civil rights. The only difference between Dick and 95% of the detainees in Gitmo is that he is a terrorist that should be charged with war crimes. He is the antithesis of the ideals of this country. The more I reead about Cheney, the more he reminds me of a terrorist. Or perhaps, a better comparison is Saddam Hussein.

* Both used their government positions to create wars and fatten their back accounts.

* Both had no problem killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s.

* Both had no problems torturing people.

The only differences I notice is one had a beard, the other wears flag pins in his business suits.

If there was a just God, Dick Cheney would be thrown in jail, stripped naked, and waterboarded for his crimes. Then keep him incommunicado and without legal representation for 7 years. Then, we’ll just hold him indefinitely because he might hire lawyers to, you know, sue on behalf of loss of his civil rights.

The only difference between Dick and 95% of the detainees in Gitmo is that he is a terrorist that should be charged with war crimes. He is the antithesis of the ideals of this country.

]]> By: Paul W http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135922 Paul W Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:56:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135922 Zooey said: <em>Maybe “They’ll all get lawyers” is Nancy Pelosi’s reason for not pursuing impeachment against these criminals…?</em> As despicable as Cheney is--and he's just about as bad as it gets--at least some of the Democrats are culpable as well having known all along what's been going on. http://progressiveworldreview.com Zooey said:

Maybe “They’ll all get lawyers” is Nancy Pelosi’s reason for not pursuing impeachment against these criminals…?

As despicable as Cheney is–and he’s just about as bad as it gets–at least some of the Democrats are culpable as well having known all along what’s been going on.

http://progressiveworldreview.com

]]> By: Cats r Flyfishn http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135914 Cats r Flyfishn Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:41:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135914 If you want to learn more about detainees and their innocence, I recommend reading "Inside the wire" by Erik Saar. If you want to learn more about detainees and their innocence, I recommend reading “Inside the wire” by Erik Saar.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135900 jb Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:22:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135900 Sounds to me like the Big Dick is afraid of the rule of law. Sounds to me like the Big Dick is afraid of the rule of law.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/comment-page-2/#comment-5135874 MapleStreet Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:52:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/cheneys-argument-for-not-releasing-innocent-detainees-they%e2%80%99ll-all-get-lawyers/#comment-5135874 Not only that, but the detainee lawyers will be from reputable schools while the DOJ lawyers will all be loyal Bushies from Regents U. So If I think someone is going to sue me, I can kidnap them to prevent it ? Not only that, but the detainee lawyers will be from reputable schools while the DOJ lawyers will all be loyal Bushies from Regents U.

So If I think someone is going to sue me, I can kidnap them to prevent it ?

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