On CBS’ Face the Nation yesterday, host Bob Schieffer asked McCain economic adviser Carly Fiorina how the newly announced projection of “a $480 billion deficit” would affect Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) economic plans. “The deficit is a huge problem,” admitted Fiorina.
Fiorina then claimed that “McCain has consistently said that he will make sure that we balance the budget by 2013.” Watch it:
In reality, McCain and his campaign have been anything but consistent in his promise to balance the budget:
February 15, 2008: At a campaign rally in Wisconsin, McCain “promised he’d offer a balanced budget by the end of his first term.”
April 15, 2008: In a news conference, McCain said that because “economic conditions are reversed,” he “would have a balanced budget within eight years.”
April 20, 2008: In an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, McCain first claimed that he hadn’t abandoned his first term pledge, but when pressed, later said “we’re going to be on a path to a balanced budget” by the end of his first term.
July 7, 2008: Releasing his Jobs for America plan, McCain pledged “once again to balance the budget by the end of his first term in 2013.”
July 7, 2008: In a conference call with reporters, McCain’s top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said that “the senator has always pledged to balance the budget by the end of his second term.”
Apparently Fiorina considers a “consistently” muddled message to be the same as having a consistent message. But as former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said yesterday, the more McCain talks, “the less certain we are about any of the positions he’s taken.”
Fiorina is just another McCain hack for Big Business. Look ate what she is, for crying out loud. Or at least what she used to be until she tanked on the job...
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August 4th, 2008 at 7:34 pmThe same, old, shopworn Republican lies--Bush PROMISED to halve the deficit bt this year--the opposite is the reality!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:34 pmMcCain would appear to consistent only in his inconsistency.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:43 pmHewlett Packard is now the largest worldwide seller of personal computers , 3 + years after Carly Fiorina's long sought-after departure ; there is nothing this broad says that is worth a wooden nickel..........
August 4th, 2008 at 7:44 pmCarly would say anything to anyone about any subject to back McDepends. She failed at H-P, she has failed as a consultant and now she is trying to be a player in Johnny Boy's campaign. Just another failed Repug fiddling as Rome burns.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:45 pmJohnny BomBombs consistently, every morning, looks at himself in the mirror and says, "You are an incredible hero. But are you sure about running for president?" And the mirror consistently winks and says "Yes, my friend, it is your time. Your mother will be so proud."
August 4th, 2008 at 7:49 pmRepublican tactics include making stuff up and telling lies.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:54 pmI think that is important in a candidate: the willingness to consistently make unrealistic pledges and stick with them until he's elected.
Even if he has to fudge the numbers a bit here and there, as long as his claims are consistently unrealistic, you know you can trust 'im.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:55 pmPhil Graham (McCain's top economics guru) says the deficit doesn't really exist. Its all mental and hype.
If McCain doesn't pick Romney, Jeb or Newt. May there be a God and McJohn pick Carly as his V.P.. Although I think Newt would make things more fun and obnoxiously exciting and Jeb could prove to voters that McJohn is not tied to the Bush Adm what so ever.
Remember, McCain said in a recent interview that he could fin a hundred millions dollars T'maro. But he doesn't love America to get it now, for his party's President. To even lower our beloved taxes. Mcjohn would borrow from Social Security to fund his presidency.
Someone should speak with HP's employees that were employed when Carly became CEO. The folks I've spoke with that worked for HP are unemplyed, or at another job. They don't speak highly of her. Typical disgruntled employees I guess? But she walked away with some good money for the devaluing of HP..
I know if I go to work and cost the company extremely, they fire me and I become disgruntled without the parachute.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pmAnd McCain has already announced he'll cut the corporate tax rate from 38 to 25%, lower than the tax rate for human citizens. Cutting the corporate tax rate is a crucial part of his plan to balance the budget!
August 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pmI agree completely. This is their best possible advertisement for a McSame second term. It is pathetic, but it is the best they have going. I'd like to recommend the following;
August 4th, 2008 at 7:57 pmMcSame; He won't be that much older in 2013, or, McBush; His first term may be crap, but he will fix everything, after "2012"
McCain consistently twirls his lucky charms bracelet when he's extra nervous.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:59 pmOT: HuffPost just reported that Obama's gonna pick Bayh...
So is it O, Bayh! Obama!
or "Bayh-bayh, Barack?
Bayh's a certifiable Bush-dawg. I still think the Dims should have at least one REAL Deim on the ticket, donchew?
August 4th, 2008 at 8:10 pmHas anybody ever asked the senile (as opposed to Crusty) old bastard if he even knows what a budget is, much less how to balance one?
August 4th, 2008 at 8:11 pmOF COURSE HE'S SAID IT........BUT DOES HE KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? HE'S SAID ALOT OF THINGS.
MKKKAIN IS PROVING THAT HE IS A REAGAN REPUGLICAN ALRIGHT....INCLUDING HAVING THE EARLY ONSET OF ALZHEIMERS.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:27 pm"Fiorina: ‘McCain Has Consistently Said’ He Will ‘Balance The Budget By 2013? "
McSame's words = Program wih empty promises. Balance the budget by 2013? I'll believe that when mice bark. As long as McCain keeps Bush's United Snakes of Moronica strategy, land of the thieves and home of the slaves, the only promise that McCain will keep by 2013 is a much bigger purse for Cindy.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:28 pmFloppy McSpun hasn't "consistently" said anything in his entire career. He even regularly votes, when he still bothered voting, against legislation he's sponsored. He speaks to the center and votes for the Reich. 95% of the time!
That's why he's been mislabeled as a maverick. He's a master of the bait and switch.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:34 pmFiorina helped trash the previously well-run Hewlett Packard Company. Now she's trying to help Senator McTireGauge help finish the Bush regime's trashing of America. Heck of of job, Carly...
August 4th, 2008 at 8:35 pmRight, McCain has consistently said he will balance the budget by 2013, just as much as he has consistently been against the invasion of Iraq.
Meaning, it depends on the time of the day and whether or not he can remember his Senate voting record on the subject...
August 4th, 2008 at 8:41 pmYou begin to get the idea that these people neither speak to one another nor listen to what the others say. Their only common goal is perpetuating wingnut rule. Scary.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:43 pmMcCain has so many people talking for his "plans" (and apparently, he agrees with all of them despite their differences) that it is a wonder he knows what the plan is for anything. We do know this though, for sure; McCain does not speak for the campaign.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:44 pmThe only thing both Fiorina and McCain have been consistent about is being wrong.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:44 pmThe only consistent thing about a McCain position on any given issue, is that his position will change. Again...again...and again...
August 4th, 2008 at 8:44 pmbecause “economic conditions are reversed,”
Is this a glancing reference to McSame saying that the economy is just chugging along, honkey dorey ?
August 4th, 2008 at 8:49 pmFiorina is not telling us how she and McCain can wipe out a deficit of 480 billion dollars in few years when:
-She and McCain want to continue sending more checks back from the Treasury as tax refunds.
-Reduce tax rates.
-Staying in Iraq for a long time.
-Start another war with Iran,and create world economic recession,if not depression.
-Fighting inflation and rise of 'cost of living'.
Are they 'she and McCain' rubbing Aladdin Lamp for answers.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:02 pm"I would like the next president not to talk about deficit reduction."
August 4th, 2008 at 9:27 pm- Douglas Holtz-Eakin, May 14, 2008.
Wasn't Fiorina busted for spying into personal stuff of HP employees? Now she is working for Magoo. If this is what Americans want, then God or some other almighty fanciful being help us. So sad, shallow, lame, ignorant....some folks should hang it up while they still have a few shreds of dignity.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:46 pmWhen W took over from Bill, the problem was what to do with the massive deficits. Then W had a trickle-down economic policy which gave us the Great Depression in the 20's and exploding deficits in the 80's. Guess What, it didn't work in the 00's, either. New record deficits even larger than Ronnie's or Daddy's.
Now McCain says he will balance the budget by more tax breaks and staying in Iraq for 100 years. And apparently 40% are buying it. When will people ever learn? Maybe if the MainStreamMedia would explain what happened in history instead of this false balance of allowing any kind of crap to be said.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:47 pmFiorina is even more confused and integrity challanged than McCain is.
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August 4th, 2008 at 9:48 pmGregor Samsa Says:
Right, McCain has consistently said he will balance the budget by 2013, just as much as he has consistently been against the invasion of Iraq.
Meaning, it depends on the time of the day and whether or not he can remember his Senate voting record on the subject…
August 4th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Well, right now I'd be happy to see him remember that he is a United States Senator, and should be showing up to vote now and then.
Okay, maybe not "happy", but you get the idea.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:21 pmActually, Wayne, if he's not showing up to vote, that's just one less GOOPer vote to deal w/...
August 4th, 2008 at 10:32 pmIt has to be relaxing for the old man to know that he can say anything, anytime, and be pretty certain that the media and Dems will hardly challenge you.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:37 pmMust be the same arrangement given to Bush in 2000 and 2004?
Ah, the maverick mcflipper has got himself a real winner in Carly,spying on her employees is a real plus for the straight talker or is it Mcwars or is it Mcflipper I get confused.....
August 4th, 2008 at 10:53 pmconsistency: noun, Republican. Changing your mind, "flip-flopping" if you will, misspeaking, etc. in order to best pander to audience. Lies, distortions can be included, as consistency is a fluid concept.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:55 pmSorry to go OT, but:
Just one week after being diagnosed with a brain tumor, Chicago Sun-Times columnist Robert Novak has announced his immediate retirement:
Robert Novak has announced his immediate retirement following the diagnosis of a brain tumor, a prognosis the Sun-Times' political columnist describes as "dire."
"The details are being worked out with the doctors this week, but the tentative plan is for radiation and chemotherapy," Novak said.
While no one deserves to get a tumor, the news that he'll no longer be a republican media mouthpiece is good news indeed.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:02 pm@28, I meant "the problem was what to do with the massive surplus".
August 4th, 2008 at 11:12 pmWasn’t Fiorina busted for spying into personal stuff of HP employees?
~jb
That wasn't Fiorina, but Patricia Dunn. She hired private investigators to obtain private information on other board members. Stupid move. She was charged with at least one felony.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:00 amI have a nagging fear the goppers will find some way to make McCain spend more time with his family and find another candidate to run against Obama. McCain has got to be an embarrassment to the goppers as well as the aged.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:04 amYeah, just like HP balanced their...Oh, right, never mind...
August 5th, 2008 at 12:05 amhe ran his campaign in the red
he wrote and backed backdoor laws for his benefit
he and his administration can't catch up with the 21st century
was mcchimpy studying AAP during his "capture?" Remember he has admitted he doesn't want to know about economics. there isn't a reason to be proud of not knowing how to run our country.
mcchimpy flops like a fish out of water.
August 5th, 2008 at 5:04 amFiorina insists that McBookkeeper will balance the budget for us in no time.!
August 5th, 2008 at 7:57 amIt's easy to see why HP people disliked their CEO.
BTW - is anyone going to ask why McCain has not been seen in the Senate since April?
August 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am