Comments on: Romney: ‘McCain Doesn’t Ask For Any Tax Reduction For Oil Companies’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:15:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: deros http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5136244 deros Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:03:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5136244 Where did the 2007 taxes listed on the chart come from? They are not even close to the taxes listed by these corps anywhere else. Where did the 2007 taxes listed on the chart come from? They are not even close to the taxes listed by these corps anywhere else.

]]> By: randytayler http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5135968 randytayler Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:56:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5135968 Romney was right -- McCain isn't for tax breaks for oil companies, he's for tax breaks for ALL CORPORATIONS, period. That means that your plumber, with his little one-man corporate umbrella for contract work, gets a whopping 10% tax break. Obama's ad is misleading and deliberately deceptive. Think for a minute, folks -- your local businesses are almost ALL incorporated. The small businessman -- not the big oil baron -- will be getting a tax break here. And people complaining about a corporation getting richer is senseless enough as it is -- you don't like that those companies are making money? BUY THEIR STOCK. Publicly-traded companies are owned by little guys like you and me! Are you upset that there are some wealthy folks who own bigger pieces of the pie? If that's the case, there's a Manifesto I think you might enjoy reading. As a sidenote: I love how so many folks will claim that there are those who won't vote for Obama because of his race, but will jeer at Romney because he's a Mormon. Classy. Romney was right — McCain isn’t for tax breaks for oil companies, he’s for tax breaks for ALL CORPORATIONS, period. That means that your plumber, with his little one-man corporate umbrella for contract work, gets a whopping 10% tax break. Obama’s ad is misleading and deliberately deceptive.

Think for a minute, folks — your local businesses are almost ALL incorporated. The small businessman — not the big oil baron — will be getting a tax break here.

And people complaining about a corporation getting richer is senseless enough as it is — you don’t like that those companies are making money? BUY THEIR STOCK. Publicly-traded companies are owned by little guys like you and me!

Are you upset that there are some wealthy folks who own bigger pieces of the pie? If that’s the case, there’s a Manifesto I think you might enjoy reading.

As a sidenote: I love how so many folks will claim that there are those who won’t vote for Obama because of his race, but will jeer at Romney because he’s a Mormon. Classy.

]]> By: pennywise2891 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5135960 pennywise2891 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:51:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5135960 What is a private company supposed to do? MAKE MONEY. At least they're upfront about it. When Obama says he's going to tax big oil more, sure, that makes you feel good...but, do you really think BIG oil won't pass WINDFALL taxes on to every average joe? When have higher taxes ever done anything for the working stiffs? Either way, it doesn't matter. McCain knows nothing of economics either. It's not like he'd release the chokehold the U.S. government has on the free market. Until the people decide the government needs to shrivel, we are f'ed. What is a private company supposed to do? MAKE MONEY. At least they’re upfront about it. When Obama says he’s going to tax big oil more, sure, that makes you feel good…but, do you really think BIG oil won’t pass WINDFALL taxes on to every average joe? When have higher taxes ever done anything for the working stiffs?

Either way, it doesn’t matter. McCain knows nothing of economics either. It’s not like he’d release the chokehold the U.S. government has on the free market. Until the people decide the government needs to shrivel, we are f’ed.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5135946 Wayne A. Schneider Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:30:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5135946 Should we mention that McCain has taken about three times as much from "big oil" as Obama? And a good chunk of that since he recently decided offshore drilling was a-okay? Or that oil companies are already refusing to drill in places, both on- and offshore, where they already have all the permission they need to start tomorrow if they chose? Or that their excuse all this time for <em>not</em> drilling in those locations was that <strong>the price of oil wasn't high enough to make it profitable</strong>? What's the problem now? That the price isn't high enough to have <em>the same profit</em>? Tough! You don't need any more permits or leases, and you don't have any excuses. Drill where you are allowed to now. Should we mention that McCain has taken about three times as much from “big oil” as Obama? And a good chunk of that since he recently decided offshore drilling was a-okay? Or that oil companies are already refusing to drill in places, both on- and offshore, where they already have all the permission they need to start tomorrow if they chose? Or that their excuse all this time for not drilling in those locations was that the price of oil wasn’t high enough to make it profitable? What’s the problem now? That the price isn’t high enough to have the same profit? Tough! You don’t need any more permits or leases, and you don’t have any excuses. Drill where you are allowed to now.

]]> By: hello_henchman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5135848 hello_henchman Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:29:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5135848 I can not not even belive what I am seeing here everyone bashing Mccain without even thinking about the fact that Obama has also taken <strong>large</strong> sums of money from big oil. In fact he has taken $353,723 from them in the very recent past while telling us the whole time that he would not. Mccain has a far more reasonable energy plan than Mr.Obama; he at least is willing to explore the idea of drilling. Yes I know it will take so time but I know I will still need gas for my car in the near future and am not crazy about giving billions of dollars to countries that hate us and want to see our way of life ended. So instead of dipping to the lows of character assasination try getting all the facts and giving John a fair shake also. I can not not even belive what I am seeing here everyone bashing Mccain without even thinking about the fact that Obama has also taken large sums of money from big oil. In fact he has taken $353,723 from them in the very recent past while telling us the whole time that he would not. Mccain has a far more reasonable energy plan than Mr.Obama; he at least is willing to explore the idea of drilling. Yes I know it will take so time but I know I will still need gas for my car in the near future and am not crazy about giving billions of dollars to countries that hate us and want to see our way of life ended. So instead of dipping to the lows of character assasination try getting all the facts and giving John a fair shake also.

]]> By: DallasNE http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134610 DallasNE Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:15:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134610 The headline statement is narrowly true. It is also terribly misleading. The headline could also read <strong>"McCain fails to exclude oil companies from huge tax cut proposal". </strong>That is just a factual as what Romney said. The headline statement is narrowly true. It is also terribly misleading. The headline could also read “McCain fails to exclude oil companies from huge tax cut proposal”. That is just a factual as what Romney said.

]]> By: sal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134462 sal Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:09:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134462 RUCerious Says: "Here’s an interesting energy development, from Juan Cole’s site Monday, August 04, 2008 Breakthrough on Solar Energy Storage" ..... "Why the hell this isn’t on the top of the effing list for alternative energy is way beyond me…" This "breakthrough" actually got infinitely more press than it deserved. It's only a catalyst to get oxygen out of water. The mirror catalyst to get hydrogen out of water is still platinum at > $1500 per ounce. That's, um, even more expensive than gasoline. This fellow deserves more press time when (if) he creates the economical hydrogen catalyst. RUCerious Says:

“Here’s an interesting energy development, from Juan Cole’s site
Monday, August 04, 2008
Breakthrough on Solar Energy Storage”
…..
“Why the hell this isn’t on the top of the effing list for alternative energy is way beyond me…”

This “breakthrough” actually got infinitely more press than it deserved. It’s only a catalyst to get oxygen out of water. The mirror catalyst to get hydrogen out of water is still platinum at > $1500 per ounce. That’s, um, even more expensive than gasoline. This fellow deserves more press time when (if) he creates the economical hydrogen catalyst.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134460 Wayne A. Schneider Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:09:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134460 Yes, Keith H. It sounds like it could really change the world. Unfortunately, despite the fact that this innovation has the potential to save a lot of lives on this planet, Corpoarate America will not see this through unless they can find a way to make at least as much money from it as they make from the technlogy it would replace. Keeping people alive to buy more of their products does not seem to be sufficient motivation. Yes, Keith H. It sounds like it could really change the world. Unfortunately, despite the fact that this innovation has the potential to save a lot of lives on this planet, Corpoarate America will not see this through unless they can find a way to make at least as much money from it as they make from the technlogy it would replace. Keeping people alive to buy more of their products does not seem to be sufficient motivation.

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134454 Keith H. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:04:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134454 23 & 26 Wow, what a story that is, thanks. 23 & 26
Wow, what a story that is, thanks.

]]> By: raynman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134440 raynman Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:57:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134440 "If McSame's plan happens to reduce the tax rates for certain tax bracket, and Big Oil just <em>happens </em>to lie in that same bracket, well you can't penalize us for such an absure coincidence, can you?" “If McSame’s plan happens to reduce the tax rates for certain tax bracket, and Big Oil just happens to lie in that same bracket, well you can’t penalize us for such an absure coincidence, can you?”

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134414 Wayne A. Schneider Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:48:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134414 RUC, Someone beat Juan Cole to that story. I read about it <a href="http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/power-to-the-people/" rel="nofollow">here</a> last week. ;) RUC,

Someone beat Juan Cole to that story. I read about it here last week. ;)

]]> By: qwerty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134396 qwerty Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:38:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134396 Interesting. I turned on the TV an hour or two ago, and some McCain surrogate on MSNBC was saying pretty much exactly what Romney said on CNN this morning. What an uncanny coincidence. Interesting. I turned on the TV an hour or two ago, and some McCain surrogate on MSNBC was saying pretty much exactly what Romney said on CNN this morning.

What an uncanny coincidence.

]]> By: swilliams41 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134370 swilliams41 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:33:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134370 Setting: Room with backdrop of Charlie Heston as Moses. Obama: "I want to lead America from energy bondage to the middle east and big oil, like Moses led his people from bondage. McCain: Listen Barak, I knew Moses and you are no Moses. Setting: Room with backdrop of Charlie Heston as Moses.

Obama: “I want to lead America from energy bondage to the middle east and big oil, like Moses led his people from bondage.

McCain: Listen Barak, I knew Moses and you are no Moses.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134340 RUCerious Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:26:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134340 Here's an interesting energy development, from Juan Cole's site Monday, August 04, 2008 Breakthrough on Solar Energy Storage MIT has made a breakthrough in energy storage, one of the main obstacles to effective use of solar energy: "Inspired by the photosynthesis performed by plants, Nocera and Matthew Kanan, a postdoctoral fellow in Nocera's lab, have developed an unprecedented process that will allow the sun's energy to be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. Later, the oxygen and hydrogen may be recombined inside a fuel cell, creating carbon-free electricity to power your house or your electric car, day or night." Solar is the only energy source that can hope to resolve the energy and climate crises, so this is big. <a href="http://www.juancole.com/" rel="nofollow"> INFORMED COMMENT </a> Why the hell this isn't on the top of the effing list for alternative energy is way beyond me... Here’s an interesting energy development, from Juan Cole’s site
Monday, August 04, 2008
Breakthrough on Solar Energy Storage

MIT has made a breakthrough in energy storage, one of the main obstacles to effective use of solar energy: “Inspired by the photosynthesis performed by plants, Nocera and Matthew Kanan, a postdoctoral fellow in Nocera’s lab, have developed an unprecedented process that will allow the sun’s energy to be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. Later, the oxygen and hydrogen may be recombined inside a fuel cell, creating carbon-free electricity to power your house or your electric car, day or night.”

Solar is the only energy source that can hope to resolve the energy and climate crises, so this is big.

INFORMED COMMENT

Why the hell this isn’t on the top of the effing list for alternative energy is way beyond me…

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134326 kasinca Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:16:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134326 And the media allows them to make crap up and lie on tv without at least encountering them with follow-up questions which would require some research and understanding on the part of the talking heads. They are all worthless recitors. And the media allows them to make crap up and lie on tv without at least encountering them with follow-up questions which would require some research and understanding on the part of the talking heads. They are all worthless recitors.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134318 RUCerious Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:12:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134318 stewarjt Says: <em>Mitt is supposed to be an improvement over Willard!</em> You mean 'Willard' the rat in the movie? stewarjt Says:
Mitt is supposed to be an improvement over Willard!

You mean ‘Willard’ the rat in the movie?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134314 RUCerious Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:11:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134314 How about an ad set in the board rooms of Exxon, Shell, etc, where an assembly line conveyor with regular people hanging by their feet goes over the table, with money raining down out of pockets, wallets, etc. Think people'd get the message? How about an ad set in the board rooms of Exxon, Shell, etc, where an assembly line conveyor with regular people hanging by their feet goes over the table, with money raining down out of pockets, wallets, etc.

Think people’d get the message?

]]> By: christopher wiwi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134312 christopher wiwi Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:10:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134312 Ah, Mittens where have you been,you haven`t panedered to the old man in a long time, what gives is it time for the convention so you and traitor Joe can kiss the old man`s A$$.The re-pukes and thier consistent lying about Mcwars tax breaks for the rich and famous are as despicible as the false acussations and lies that Obama is going to raise taxes on everyone, when we know he is going to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations, which is how it should be.These guys on the right represent GREED, corruption and deciet we have had that for 8 long years and it has cost this country everything we had achieved to make this country great and Johnny Mcwars will continue this trend and then whole world loses. Ah, Mittens where have you been,you haven`t panedered to the old man in a long time, what gives is it time for the convention so you and traitor Joe can kiss the old man`s A$$.The re-pukes and thier consistent lying about Mcwars tax breaks for the rich and famous are as despicible as the false acussations and lies that Obama is going to raise taxes on everyone, when we know he is going to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations, which is how it should be.These guys on the right represent GREED, corruption and deciet we have had that for 8 long years and it has cost this country everything we had achieved to make this country great and Johnny Mcwars will continue this trend and then whole world loses.

]]> By: Crusty Old Bastard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134300 Crusty Old Bastard Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:04:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134300 McPogue may "stand up" to big oil but he is bent over at the waist, hands on his knees, his pants down about his ankles, a silly smile on his face and his a$$ (pun intended) to the wind. McPogue may “stand up” to big oil but he is bent over at the waist, hands on his knees, his pants down about his ankles, a silly smile on his face and his a$$ (pun intended) to the wind.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/comment-page-1/#comment-5134298 shoeless Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:03:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/04/romney-big-oil-tax-breaks/#comment-5134298 What a deal. For $1 million in campaign contributions to McCain, the oil companies get $3.8 billion in tax breaks! Now that, my dear friends, is one hell of a return on investment! What a deal. For $1 million in campaign contributions to McCain, the oil companies get $3.8 billion in tax breaks!

Now that, my dear friends, is one hell of a return on investment!

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