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	<title>Comments on: Conservatives Try To Take Credit For Drop In Gas Prices: &#8216;The Market Is Responding&#8217; To Our Political Stunts</title>
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		<title>By: ignatov</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5140266</link>
		<dc:creator>ignatov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I think the market is responding to the fact that we are here talking,” 

Well then, by all means, stay there and keep talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I think the market is responding to the fact that we are here talking,” </p>
<p>Well then, by all means, stay there and keep talking.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: green917</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5139070</link>
		<dc:creator>green917</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#68,

&lt;em&gt;no no no, credit just cannot go to the republicans for the drop in gas prices.&lt;/em&gt;

Because they have NOTHING to do with the price of gas or oil dropping. It&#039;s, as has been noted upthread, simple supply and demand. When the price of something goes up to the point where large portions of the populace can&#039;t afford it, demand drops. When demand drops, then so does the price of the commodity in question. This is basic macro-economics. A bunch of whiney, obstructionist bloviating warthogs yammering about something that is nothing but yet another give away to big oil is the solution to NOTHING!

Sorry republicans, I know that you are still in session even in the face of pelosi and the democraps running away from a vote that would help us end our energy crisis. So, while many republicans are forgoing vacation and still debating the energy issue thus “doing the work of the people”, pelosi and her minions are enjoying 5 weeks of vacation while the average american is still paying 4.00 per gallon. Go figure. Thanks Nancy!!!

Drilling off the coasts of the US (including ANWR) would do absolutely NOTHING to lower the price of oil or gas today (or much in 10 years for that matter). First, it&#039;s 10 years to get the oil to market if the oil companies even decide to actually drill on the new leases (rather than leveraging them as assets when dealing with their other global customers like China and India which they&#039;ve already done with the hundreds of acres that we&#039;ve already given them in Alaska). Second, and more importantly, the entire premise of drilling saving consumers money is predicated on the fact that the oil companies will pass the savings (read as: windfall profits) on to the consumer. They have a long-established track record of doing exactly the opposite! What makes you think that they&#039;ll decide to become altruistic now? To your &quot;vacation&quot; dig at the Dems in Congress, how many days of vacation did the 109th Congress take? Oh yeah, they worked a total of 97 days and what did they do to solve this issue in that 97 days (and this was a crisis then as well)? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is what they did about it because there was no political hay to make from it. This is political theatricality of the worst sort!

No folks, the real driver behind the drop in prices was our socialist savior Obama who suggested that we just fill our tires with air. Just keep air in your tires folks, and watch the prices continue to drop.

Obama had nothing to do with the drop in prices either but then he never claimed, unlike these Republican Congressmen, that he did have anything to do with it. And, moron, ensuring that your tires are properly inflated has long-ago been proven as an easy and efficient means of improving a car&#039;s mileage. Even the auto manufacturers agree this is a good idea (and Sen. McCain conceded that point yesterday also in case you hadn&#039;t noticed.)

yeah right! So Barack, when can I expect to receive my free, government issued, tire gauge?

Wouldn&#039;t you rather buy one with a childish and inaccurate political slogan on it from John McCain for $25.

In a dramatic revolt against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) refusal to allow Congress to vote on legislation to increase American-made energy and lower gas prices, House Republicans today refused to leave the House floor after Speaker Pelosi adjourned the House for the five-week August break, staying in the chamber to speak directly to Americans watching the historic event unfold above the floor in the House gallery.

It wasn&#039;t Nancy Pelosi who voted against cloture on at least 6 amendments to the energy bill that would have addressed this issue sensibly, it was these same Republicans who are now grandstanding in order to score some cheap political points and deflect from the fact that your selection to be the next leader of the free world can&#039;t remember how he voted last week and is, essentially, losing his mental faculties in front of our very eyes.

Censorship is for those who cannot handle the truth, TP!!!

What censorship are you referring to? We have a system here whereby individuals who lend nothing to the conversation are voted off the island by the community. You don&#039;t get flagged because we don&#039;t share your ideology, you get flagged because you spew your ideology without any thought for things like fact or staying on topic.

Perhaps you should do some homework about how simple economics works in the global market before you start spewing nonsense about solving a crisis that was manufactured by your side of the aisles&#039; malfeasance and the greed of the oil companies. The simple reality is that we could easily have $40 a barrel oil again but we never will because Exxon Mobil and BP and Chevron wont sacrifice any of their largesse (which is earned on our backs) and your Reps and Sens wont ever crawl out of their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#68,</p>
<p><em>no no no, credit just cannot go to the republicans for the drop in gas prices.</em></p>
<p>Because they have NOTHING to do with the price of gas or oil dropping. It&#8217;s, as has been noted upthread, simple supply and demand. When the price of something goes up to the point where large portions of the populace can&#8217;t afford it, demand drops. When demand drops, then so does the price of the commodity in question. This is basic macro-economics. A bunch of whiney, obstructionist bloviating warthogs yammering about something that is nothing but yet another give away to big oil is the solution to NOTHING!</p>
<p>Sorry republicans, I know that you are still in session even in the face of pelosi and the democraps running away from a vote that would help us end our energy crisis. So, while many republicans are forgoing vacation and still debating the energy issue thus “doing the work of the people”, pelosi and her minions are enjoying 5 weeks of vacation while the average american is still paying 4.00 per gallon. Go figure. Thanks Nancy!!!</p>
<p>Drilling off the coasts of the US (including ANWR) would do absolutely NOTHING to lower the price of oil or gas today (or much in 10 years for that matter). First, it&#8217;s 10 years to get the oil to market if the oil companies even decide to actually drill on the new leases (rather than leveraging them as assets when dealing with their other global customers like China and India which they&#8217;ve already done with the hundreds of acres that we&#8217;ve already given them in Alaska). Second, and more importantly, the entire premise of drilling saving consumers money is predicated on the fact that the oil companies will pass the savings (read as: windfall profits) on to the consumer. They have a long-established track record of doing exactly the opposite! What makes you think that they&#8217;ll decide to become altruistic now? To your &#8220;vacation&#8221; dig at the Dems in Congress, how many days of vacation did the 109th Congress take? Oh yeah, they worked a total of 97 days and what did they do to solve this issue in that 97 days (and this was a crisis then as well)? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is what they did about it because there was no political hay to make from it. This is political theatricality of the worst sort!</p>
<p>No folks, the real driver behind the drop in prices was our socialist savior Obama who suggested that we just fill our tires with air. Just keep air in your tires folks, and watch the prices continue to drop.</p>
<p>Obama had nothing to do with the drop in prices either but then he never claimed, unlike these Republican Congressmen, that he did have anything to do with it. And, moron, ensuring that your tires are properly inflated has long-ago been proven as an easy and efficient means of improving a car&#8217;s mileage. Even the auto manufacturers agree this is a good idea (and Sen. McCain conceded that point yesterday also in case you hadn&#8217;t noticed.)</p>
<p>yeah right! So Barack, when can I expect to receive my free, government issued, tire gauge?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you rather buy one with a childish and inaccurate political slogan on it from John McCain for $25.</p>
<p>In a dramatic revolt against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) refusal to allow Congress to vote on legislation to increase American-made energy and lower gas prices, House Republicans today refused to leave the House floor after Speaker Pelosi adjourned the House for the five-week August break, staying in the chamber to speak directly to Americans watching the historic event unfold above the floor in the House gallery.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t Nancy Pelosi who voted against cloture on at least 6 amendments to the energy bill that would have addressed this issue sensibly, it was these same Republicans who are now grandstanding in order to score some cheap political points and deflect from the fact that your selection to be the next leader of the free world can&#8217;t remember how he voted last week and is, essentially, losing his mental faculties in front of our very eyes.</p>
<p>Censorship is for those who cannot handle the truth, TP!!!</p>
<p>What censorship are you referring to? We have a system here whereby individuals who lend nothing to the conversation are voted off the island by the community. You don&#8217;t get flagged because we don&#8217;t share your ideology, you get flagged because you spew your ideology without any thought for things like fact or staying on topic.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should do some homework about how simple economics works in the global market before you start spewing nonsense about solving a crisis that was manufactured by your side of the aisles&#8217; malfeasance and the greed of the oil companies. The simple reality is that we could easily have $40 a barrel oil again but we never will because Exxon Mobil and BP and Chevron wont sacrifice any of their largesse (which is earned on our backs) and your Reps and Sens wont ever crawl out of their pockets.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5139070', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138990</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind that the Republicans REFUSED to ban price gouging, rein in the speculators, release oil from the petroleum reserve, their agenda is more drilling, not designed to ease the pain of commuters, but to enrich Big Oil. Last time I checked, Big Oil was not made up of people. Corporations are not people, but I guess to conservatives who have spent years oppressing people and trying to rob them of their humanity, it&#039;s only natural that a soulless corporation be considered more a person than the people they oppress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind that the Republicans REFUSED to ban price gouging, rein in the speculators, release oil from the petroleum reserve, their agenda is more drilling, not designed to ease the pain of commuters, but to enrich Big Oil. Last time I checked, Big Oil was not made up of people. Corporations are not people, but I guess to conservatives who have spent years oppressing people and trying to rob them of their humanity, it&#8217;s only natural that a soulless corporation be considered more a person than the people they oppress&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138990', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138978</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to say that corporations are not people, but unfortunately RePUBLICANS seem to think they&#039;re more people than us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to say that corporations are not people, but unfortunately RePUBLICANS seem to think they&#8217;re more people than us&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138978', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138976</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans do the work of the people?! Yeah, haha, that&#039;s a hoot, pmarvk2... the only PEOPLE they work for are the corporations, and if it weren&#039;t for a conservative clerk inserting that into the commentary on a case, which means IT&#039;S NOT LEGALLY BINDING...

If you truly think the Republicans are working for the people, well I guess then Iraq really did attack us on 9/11, that Saddam had WMDs aimed at NYC, which were fast enough to strike within 45 minutes, and that drilling in ANWR will bring down the price of gas to a dollar a gallon...

you&#039;re too much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans do the work of the people?! Yeah, haha, that&#8217;s a hoot, pmarvk2&#8230; the only PEOPLE they work for are the corporations, and if it weren&#8217;t for a conservative clerk inserting that into the commentary on a case, which means IT&#8217;S NOT LEGALLY BINDING&#8230;</p>
<p>If you truly think the Republicans are working for the people, well I guess then Iraq really did attack us on 9/11, that Saddam had WMDs aimed at NYC, which were fast enough to strike within 45 minutes, and that drilling in ANWR will bring down the price of gas to a dollar a gallon&#8230;</p>
<p>you&#8217;re too much!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim43</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138870</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense that somehow the democrats want to take credit for the drop in prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense that somehow the democrats want to take credit for the drop in prices.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138870', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138728</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all fairness, if it hadn&#039;t been for the conservative, lockstep, rush into a false war, we wouldn&#039;t have had $4.00 gas this year.  So in a way they were responsible.

Another factor is that a rising element will often overshoot the mark and then correct to the level which it passed by.  So the drop of 20 cents a gallon could just be correcting the overshoot.  

Another factor is that simple economics state that when prices rise too much, people back off from using the product.  This naturally leads to a higher supply/demand.  Just raise the cost of a soda to $ 50 a can and see if folks stop buying it.

In short, nothing magical here at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, if it hadn&#8217;t been for the conservative, lockstep, rush into a false war, we wouldn&#8217;t have had $4.00 gas this year.  So in a way they were responsible.</p>
<p>Another factor is that a rising element will often overshoot the mark and then correct to the level which it passed by.  So the drop of 20 cents a gallon could just be correcting the overshoot.  </p>
<p>Another factor is that simple economics state that when prices rise too much, people back off from using the product.  This naturally leads to a higher supply/demand.  Just raise the cost of a soda to $ 50 a can and see if folks stop buying it.</p>
<p>In short, nothing magical here at all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138286</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good in the world of conservatism...Everytime their ideas screw up the country, blame Democrats and  the liberal media! If something happens that might positively affect the country, take credit for it, even though they had nothing to do with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good in the world of conservatism&#8230;Everytime their ideas screw up the country, blame Democrats and  the liberal media! If something happens that might positively affect the country, take credit for it, even though they had nothing to do with it&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138286', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138184</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;JMOHR Says:
Dasm: If they are destroying their party, then why is Obama falling behind in the polls.&lt;/em&gt;

Please don&#039;t tell me that you are believing the polls.  They are being rigged to make it look like it really is a horse race.  The pollsters and the MSM don&#039;t want this to look like a cake walk for Obama because that will cost them money.  It&#039;s in their best interest to &quot;cook the books&quot; on this race and make it look like it&#039;s closer than it really is.

Why don&#039;t you go out and find the places that are polling the states and compiling probably electoral college votes.  They all have Obama beating McCain handily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>JMOHR Says:<br />
Dasm: If they are destroying their party, then why is Obama falling behind in the polls.</em></p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t tell me that you are believing the polls.  They are being rigged to make it look like it really is a horse race.  The pollsters and the MSM don&#8217;t want this to look like a cake walk for Obama because that will cost them money.  It&#8217;s in their best interest to &#8220;cook the books&#8221; on this race and make it look like it&#8217;s closer than it really is.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you go out and find the places that are polling the states and compiling probably electoral college votes.  They all have Obama beating McCain handily.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138184', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138174</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do these guys have any idea how stupid they look and sound?  Gas prices started going down over two weeks ago.  They didn&#039;t start their stunt until two days ago.

Between their &quot;theater of the absurd&quot; on the floor of Congress to McCain running around shouting about inflating tires, they are looking like a bunch of clowns.  Oh well, all the better for us in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these guys have any idea how stupid they look and sound?  Gas prices started going down over two weeks ago.  They didn&#8217;t start their stunt until two days ago.</p>
<p>Between their &#8220;theater of the absurd&#8221; on the floor of Congress to McCain running around shouting about inflating tires, they are looking like a bunch of clowns.  Oh well, all the better for us in November.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138174', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138162</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JMOHR. It depends on which poll one quotes. Though, I am coming to the realization that it just plain doesn&#039;t matter what Obama says or does. He is being defined by his opponent and the media but, I still like his chances. Because, no matter what the opposition makes up, Flippy McSpin just keeps on talking. And the more he talks, the less qualified he appears.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PRESIDENTIAL_RACE_AP_POLL?SITE=RIPAW&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JMOHR. It depends on which poll one quotes. Though, I am coming to the realization that it just plain doesn&#8217;t matter what Obama says or does. He is being defined by his opponent and the media but, I still like his chances. Because, no matter what the opposition makes up, Flippy McSpin just keeps on talking. And the more he talks, the less qualified he appears.</p>
<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PRESIDENTIAL_RACE_AP_POLL?SITE=RIPAW&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PRESIDENTIAL_RACE_AP_POLL?SITE=RIPAW&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138162', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138146</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Trippie! Obama just said that water is wet. 

Any comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Trippie! Obama just said that water is wet. </p>
<p>Any comment?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138146', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138124</link>
		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dasm:  If they are destroying their party, then why is Obama falling behind in the polls.  They already know that they will lose seats in Congress and must fight an uphill battle for the presidency.  However, unlike Democrats, they will not roll over.  Their purpose is not to improve their image but rather to diminish the image and support for Democrats.  This is what being a drama queen can do for you especially with Low Information Voters, i.e. most Americans.  

We may not like advertising, slogans and marketing; but we are going to have to get with it.  Their tactics disrupt our message, diminish our credibility and reduce our chances of winning.  If the Republicans are right about Democratic elitism, it would be in one area, i.e. our dismissal of the necessity to conduct retail politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dasm:  If they are destroying their party, then why is Obama falling behind in the polls.  They already know that they will lose seats in Congress and must fight an uphill battle for the presidency.  However, unlike Democrats, they will not roll over.  Their purpose is not to improve their image but rather to diminish the image and support for Democrats.  This is what being a drama queen can do for you especially with Low Information Voters, i.e. most Americans.  </p>
<p>We may not like advertising, slogans and marketing; but we are going to have to get with it.  Their tactics disrupt our message, diminish our credibility and reduce our chances of winning.  If the Republicans are right about Democratic elitism, it would be in one area, i.e. our dismissal of the necessity to conduct retail politics.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul W</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138112</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil futures typically go out weeks to months, not years, so it&#039;s disingenous to the extreme to claim that drilling, which won&#039;t produce anything for &lt;em&gt;years&lt;/em&gt;, has any effect on today&#039;s prices.

It&#039;s also interesting to note that if they were correct, they would then be admitting just how much speculation is playing a role in the price of gas, speculation that&#039;s in large part due to the changes in rules brought about by the Bush administration.

http://progressiveworldreview.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil futures typically go out weeks to months, not years, so it&#8217;s disingenous to the extreme to claim that drilling, which won&#8217;t produce anything for <em>years</em>, has any effect on today&#8217;s prices.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to note that if they were correct, they would then be admitting just how much speculation is playing a role in the price of gas, speculation that&#8217;s in large part due to the changes in rules brought about by the Bush administration.</p>
<p><a href="http://progressiveworldreview.com" rel="nofollow">http://progressiveworldreview.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dasm</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138104</link>
		<dc:creator>dasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Republican Drama Queens really have no shame-- their bloated egos must carry them though the day, ignorant of anything honest.  They&#039;ll take credit for anything if it promotes oil, bigotry, hatred, or enriching the rich.  One must wonder if they ever recognize what clowns they have become in the eyes of the majority of Americans, plus the huge majority of the rest of the world.  They are destroying their party &amp; don&#039;t even realize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Republican Drama Queens really have no shame&#8211; their bloated egos must carry them though the day, ignorant of anything honest.  They&#8217;ll take credit for anything if it promotes oil, bigotry, hatred, or enriching the rich.  One must wonder if they ever recognize what clowns they have become in the eyes of the majority of Americans, plus the huge majority of the rest of the world.  They are destroying their party &amp; don&#8217;t even realize it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138104', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5138050</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mugsy, don&#039;t forget the worldwide drop in demand. The Reich&#039;s whole drilling meme goes in the tank if we actually start conserving energy. Their whole premise is based on inevitably increasing demand, even though there&#039;s no reason to assume it&#039;s a valid assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugsy, don&#8217;t forget the worldwide drop in demand. The Reich&#8217;s whole drilling meme goes in the tank if we actually start conserving energy. Their whole premise is based on inevitably increasing demand, even though there&#8217;s no reason to assume it&#8217;s a valid assumption.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5138050', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mugsy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5137944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend that someone at ThinkProgress look into the fact that &lt;strong&gt;gasoline prices have fallen EVERY &lt;em&gt;election year&lt;/em&gt; since 1996.&lt;/strong&gt; The President engages in practices that promote the global supply, they often open up &quot;the strategic reserve&quot; (expect that in early October), and &lt;strong&gt;refineries, which artificially raise prices by cutting production&lt;/strong&gt;, then increase their production to 90% or more of capacity to suddenly flood the market with gasoline and lower the price at the pump in time for the election.

George Bush suddenly stopped his saber-rattling and sent a diplomatic envoy to Iran several weeks ago, and the drop in oil prices was almost instantaneous. It took another two weeks of falling oil prices to reflect that decrease at the pump.

Here in Houston, in 2006, the price of regular unleaded steadily fell for months just to just $1.99/gal the day of the November election. &lt;strong&gt;The next day&lt;/strong&gt;, gas prices began to rise again.

If you look back at the timeline, the price of oil started to fall *&lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt;* the Republican theatrics and *&lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt;* Bush&#039;s Iran envoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend that someone at ThinkProgress look into the fact that <strong>gasoline prices have fallen EVERY <em>election year</em> since 1996.</strong> The President engages in practices that promote the global supply, they often open up &#8220;the strategic reserve&#8221; (expect that in early October), and <strong>refineries, which artificially raise prices by cutting production</strong>, then increase their production to 90% or more of capacity to suddenly flood the market with gasoline and lower the price at the pump in time for the election.</p>
<p>George Bush suddenly stopped his saber-rattling and sent a diplomatic envoy to Iran several weeks ago, and the drop in oil prices was almost instantaneous. It took another two weeks of falling oil prices to reflect that decrease at the pump.</p>
<p>Here in Houston, in 2006, the price of regular unleaded steadily fell for months just to just $1.99/gal the day of the November election. <strong>The next day</strong>, gas prices began to rise again.</p>
<p>If you look back at the timeline, the price of oil started to fall *<em>before</em>* the Republican theatrics and *<em>after</em>* Bush&#8217;s Iran envoy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5137944', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich H</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5137926</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price is dropping because of the upcoming election.  It&#039;s simple.  Anyone that&#039;s old enough to have lived through a few have seen this trick before.
  It&#039;s unfortunate, but there are too many Americans who believe the bull that sprouts from Republican minds.
  I have an (ex) friend who&#039;s very well off, well educated, greedy etc... the perfect republican.  He believes everything he hears out of Fox etc... How can there be hope for this country when educated people believe this bull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price is dropping because of the upcoming election.  It&#8217;s simple.  Anyone that&#8217;s old enough to have lived through a few have seen this trick before.<br />
  It&#8217;s unfortunate, but there are too many Americans who believe the bull that sprouts from Republican minds.<br />
  I have an (ex) friend who&#8217;s very well off, well educated, greedy etc&#8230; the perfect republican.  He believes everything he hears out of Fox etc&#8230; How can there be hope for this country when educated people believe this bull.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5137926', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5137818</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;love the rapist... that&#039;s what theyre telling you... and it&#039;s YOUR fault youre getting raped!...&quot; (&quot;theyre&quot; = the CONS)

-randi rant (paraphrased mostly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;love the rapist&#8230; that&#8217;s what theyre telling you&#8230; and it&#8217;s YOUR fault youre getting raped!&#8230;&#8221; (&#8221;theyre&#8221; = the CONS)</p>
<p>-randi rant (paraphrased mostly)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5137818', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DRxJ</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/conservatives-gas-prices/comment-page-2/#comment-5137770</link>
		<dc:creator>DRxJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you, DribbleDick 7 (for now), for that link.
By the linked poll, it states that:
&lt;em&gt;The Democrats lead by ten in the Generic Congressional Ballot this week. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone tracking results for this week find that, if Congressional elections were held today, 46% of voters would vote for their district’s Democratic candidate, while 36% would choose the Republican candidate.&lt;/em&gt;
Soooo, even though Congress is doing a piss poor job, it appears the voters don&#039;t feel confident in voting for Republicans, now does it. P&#039;haps because of all the unnecessary filibustering and other fcking around by the right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you, DribbleDick 7 (for now), for that link.<br />
By the linked poll, it states that:<br />
<em>The Democrats lead by ten in the Generic Congressional Ballot this week. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone tracking results for this week find that, if Congressional elections were held today, 46% of voters would vote for their district’s Democratic candidate, while 36% would choose the Republican candidate.</em><br />
Soooo, even though Congress is doing a piss poor job, it appears the voters don&#8217;t feel confident in voting for Republicans, now does it. P&#8217;haps because of all the unnecessary filibustering and other fcking around by the right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5137770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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