It’s a shame to see the old tactic of if you don’t have facts to support your viewpoint you attack the speaker/writer (argumentum ad homonem for those of you interested in actual debate). I guess it’s my fault for believing this was an open forum.

There was nothing vulgar in my presentation, so your attack is both unwarranted and crude. Again, attack the person if you can’t support your ideas. Sexism is not becoming, nor is lack of ability to defend your viewpoint.

As an independent thinker, I carefully read all that’s available from all candidates and make my decisions based on that. Hmmm… must be an unusual method to use and also use this site.

If business owners receive tax breaks, they put that money into creating new jobs and improving those that already exist. Reagan porved that (as did others before him). It is, of course, difficult for the President to help build the economy in any way when Congress (your majority, I think, step up to the plate here, please)fights him at every turn. President Bush has made mistakes, but I doubt that Senator McCain will. He knows how to build the economy! Aren’t you aware that some of those tax cuts you see as aiding “fat cats” actually actted as incentives for small businesses to grow? In order for the economy to revive, Congress needs to stop regulating business into oblivion. Just look at what’s happening to the auto industry (and others) because of regulations that are impossible to meet. We need to elect someone who has an experienced, realistic view of what it will take to put this country on the upswing economically. From what I’ve seen, that’s Senator McCain.

And please, soak the rich has never worked! It’s been packaged and sold to voters for what– 70 or so years? It always works out that the middle class gets soaked instead. We’re losing the middle class because the middle class wants to ignore the needs of those “below” it and to make the rich become middle class. This country was built on hard work– we don’t become prosperous by riding the coat tails of those who’ve toiled to create and build businesses. I’m still amazed that you don’t see that if Senator Obama raises taxes on the business owning class, those tax increases will be passed on to the middle class. You’re not learning from long history. Senator McCain has learned from our nation’s past and is intent on using that knowledge to benefit ALL Americans. Senator McCain also understands free enterprise and incentive, Senator Obama not so much!

Note how Senator Obama non-answers questions with elitist statements such as the answer being “above (my) pay grade,” when giving an honest answer might lose him votes. Again, Senator McCain just honestly answers the questions (sometimes so fully that his answer obviates the follow-up questions given to Senator Obama).

When Senator McCain doesn’t evade the questions, it must really upset you. It’s so difficult to argue with someone who so committedly believes in what he’s saying. On the other hand it’s a snap to argue against non-answers and answers that are changed shortly (albeit by boradening the latter answer to encompass the former so as not to reveal you’ve made an error) as Senator Obama does. This tactic reveals that he holds no strong convictions. He obviously didn’t learn anything from Senator Clinton, and he could afford to do so.

At any rate, everyone listening to the Saddleback presentation was already aware of how Senator Obama felt about abortion, since earlier in his campaign he had said he wanted the option for his daughters if either of them “made a mistake.” Do you really believe that a baby is EVER a mistake? That I believe that a baby is a miracle– whether of God or nature– leads me to agree with Senator McCain’s statement that a child is a person at the moment of conception.

Incidentally, my husband prefers an intelligent, independent-thinking mate to a cow-towing automoton, say a Mary Matlin to a Maureen Dowd.

I’m disappointed that you can’t argue the actual issues! Come back when you can argue FACTS, not commit character assassination.

By the way, will you still get Obama points for your sexist, extremely crude comments? Or will you get extra points?

Ooooh, look what we have here!

Ready to cash in those McBush tokens for a nice, shiny new dildo?

Your spouse will thank us for eliminating the possibility of actually having sex with you!

How about we just get the rich to pay as much as they did before the Bush tax cuts that bankrupted our country? And what does this have to do with the (ever shrinking under Bush) middle class? They actually get a tax cut under Obama’s plan.
Why is the gap between the rich and poor in this country higher than it’s been since before the Great Depression? And how is McCain going to address that, exactly?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR20080

With regard to the economy, you can call it a mcsurge if you like, but a successful plan for our economic present and future to surge ahead is what we need. McCain is sounding like he has a plan and it doesn’t include burdening the middle class with more taxes. Obama sounds like he’s planning to have a plan, and that it will be burdensome on the middle class. Even after the Reagan years, some Americans still don’t get it: tax cuts favorable to business and business owners– big or small– stimulate the economy. They provide an impetus to increase jobs and wages. That’s been proven repeatedly. If we go with a ideas like Obama’s to tax the rich (big business) and profits tax oil companies, who do you think is going to be the end-payer of those taxes? Those taxes are just passed on to the consumer, one way or another. McCain understands this– he actually learns from history. McCain knows we need an economic plan that not only directly benefits the middle class, but benefits us by not causing increases in consumer costs. McCain may have needed some education on economic matters earlier, but it sounds like he sought that out and is a fast learner! I don’t want to hear about how a candidate is going to soak the rich– that always flows (never mind trickles) down to flooding the middle class. Hey, that’s how the income tax was originally sold to the public.

And does McCain ever not read from prepared remarks? Yes, and he’s on the same page in both cases. Not so for Obama. Every time Obama speaks unscripted, he makes a gaff and has to “clarify” his off the cuff remarks by reading from prepared remarks.

We’re supposed to be thinking about progress. McCain is progress. Obama is more talking about creating a plan for progress!

Right now the dollar is seeing a rebound of roughly 5% because the American economy is dragging down many of the other economies of the world. This will weaken the one thing that has been strong; exports — creating more headwinds for our own economy although providing some offset for very high oil prices.

What does McCain have to say about this surge in the weakening world economy and where would he surge to help shore up weakness overseas.

Remember dick won’t release the memo about their secret meeting.

“Oil operations will not just hurt our community ‘Tikigaq’ Point Hope, but will hurt all of the hunting communities,” said Emma F. Kinneeveauk, Environmental Program Manager for the Native Village of Point Hope, a federally recognized tribal government. “If oil is found, there are going to be lots of ships going back and forth and this is going to interrupt the animals’ migratory routes. They won’t come around anymore. We hunters will have a hard time finding the food we are used to eating; it is going to hurt our way of life.”

The suit alleges the government violated the National Environmental Policy Act by issuing geological and geophysical permits before completing an environmental impact statement. It additionally charges that the National Marine Fisheries Service violated the Marine Mammal Protection Act by issuing an Incidental Harassment Authorization that allows Shell to “take” by harassment several species of seals and whales during seismic surveys. The fisheries service will likely issue additional permits to allow Shell, BP, and several other companies to harass seals and whales throughout this summer and fall.

The Polar Bear Seas support endangered bowhead whales, beluga whales, gray whales, several seal species, Pacific walrus, polar bears, and about 100 fish species. In addition, endangered humpback whales have begun to migrate into the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas in recent years. Many of these species provide important subsistence resources to Native Alaskans.

why do you hate native Americans, OGreatOne?

55.4 million acres yet to drill.

I don’t care if that number got down to 10 million acres, it’s still a land grab!

Gasoline and Diesel are Obviously an essential commodity, and need to be Regulated like electricity.

If Corporations have the storage tanks, let them but oil on the futures market. Owning (Hoarding) THE NATION’S Vital Oil Supply on PAPER..( or in this case Cyberspace) is NOT Supply and Demand .

Is that like the ‘Central Tire Inflation Myth,’ in that it’s only a ‘myth’ if you carefully define your terms to exclude any contrary evidence as it’s pointed out to you?

It must be fun to be able to dance around like that…