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	<title>Comments on: Mukasey appoints torture apologist as his chief of staff.</title>
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		<title>By: mennodu</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/06/musasey-appoints-torture-apologist-as-his-chief-of-staff/comment-page-1/#comment-5143478</link>
		<dc:creator>mennodu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite the opposite: any reasonable man will realize that torture is wrong in itself, no matter what the payout is. 
What if the World Trade attack could have been prevented by torturing 1 man? Would you do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite the opposite: any reasonable man will realize that torture is wrong in itself, no matter what the payout is.<br />
What if the World Trade attack could have been prevented by torturing 1 man? Would you do it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5143478', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

Mukasey = Obstruction of Justice through a refusal to investigate the Administration.

Court Martial General Mukasey!

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<p>Mukasey = Obstruction of Justice through a refusal to investigate the Administration.</p>
<p>Court Martial General Mukasey!</p>
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		<title>By: Cats r Flyfishn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/06/musasey-appoints-torture-apologist-as-his-chief-of-staff/comment-page-1/#comment-5140568</link>
		<dc:creator>Cats r Flyfishn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,” said Brian A. Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not previously been made public. […]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh my, oh my.  He should have kept his mouth shut.  Now the whole world knows that Benczkowski is a stupid fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,” said Brian A. Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not previously been made public. […]</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh my, oh my.  He should have kept his mouth shut.  Now the whole world knows that Benczkowski is a stupid fool.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Benczkowski]: &quot;The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,&quot; said Brian A. Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not previously been made public. […]&lt;/i&gt;

And if I shoot you to take your money because I need it, rather than just because I think you&#039;re too stoopid to live, Benczkowski, that&#039;s just A-OK, and I get a &quot;get out of jail free&quot; card....

I&#039;d note for the brain-damaged that the Cnvention Against Torture categorically bans such in &quot;all circumstances whatsoever&quot;, and makes no provision for &quot;benign &lt;GAAACK!*&gt; motives&quot;.  Same with the U.S. laws for assault and torture, no provision for &quot;gummint belevolence&quot; there.

&lt;i&gt;In one letter written Sept. 27, 2007, Mr. Benczkowski argued that &quot;to rise to the level of an outrage&quot; and thus be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, conduct &quot;must be so deplorable that the reasonable observer would recognize it as something that should be universally condemned.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Once we hang all the remaining 28% (and falling) of neocons and RW authoritarians for enabling war crimes (if not abject stoopidity), there &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; be &quot;universal[] condemn[ation]&quot; of torture.

Speaking hypothetically, of course.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[Benczkowski]: &#8220;The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,&#8221; said Brian A. Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not previously been made public. […]</i></p>
<p>And if I shoot you to take your money because I need it, rather than just because I think you&#8217;re too stoopid to live, Benczkowski, that&#8217;s just A-OK, and I get a &#8220;get out of jail free&#8221; card&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d note for the brain-damaged that the Cnvention Against Torture categorically bans such in &#8220;all circumstances whatsoever&#8221;, and makes no provision for &#8220;benign &lt;GAAACK!*&gt; motives&#8221;.  Same with the U.S. laws for assault and torture, no provision for &#8220;gummint belevolence&#8221; there.</p>
<p><i>In one letter written Sept. 27, 2007, Mr. Benczkowski argued that &#8220;to rise to the level of an outrage&#8221; and thus be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, conduct &#8220;must be so deplorable that the reasonable observer would recognize it as something that should be universally condemned.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Once we hang all the remaining 28% (and falling) of neocons and RW authoritarians for enabling war crimes (if not abject stoopidity), there <i>will</i> be &#8220;universal[] condemn[ation]&#8221; of torture.</p>
<p>Speaking hypothetically, of course.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140424', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/06/musasey-appoints-torture-apologist-as-his-chief-of-staff/comment-page-1/#comment-5140394</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reporter asks for direct evidence of Dr. Ivin&#039;s guilt:

&quot;I won&#039;t discuss the actuality of evidence then&quot;
Joseph Persichini, FBI Washington Field Office

http://www.c-span.org/
Segment titled:  DOJ Announces Anthrax Results</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reporter asks for direct evidence of Dr. Ivin&#8217;s guilt:</p>
<p>&#8220;I won&#8217;t discuss the actuality of evidence then&#8221;<br />
Joseph Persichini, FBI Washington Field Office</p>
<p><a href="http://www.c-span.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-span.org/</a><br />
Segment titled:  DOJ Announces Anthrax Results<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140394', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: judyinnm</title>
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		<dc:creator>judyinnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those acts have already been &quot;universally condemned&quot; by &quot;reasonable observer(s)&quot;, for eons.  But, Benczkowski probably considers himself a reasonable observer, and the actions of the Marquis de Sade would not outrage him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those acts have already been &#8220;universally condemned&#8221; by &#8220;reasonable observer(s)&#8221;, for eons.  But, Benczkowski probably considers himself a reasonable observer, and the actions of the Marquis de Sade would not outrage him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140328', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mukasey once again shows his true colors--apparently Schumer and Feinstein were color-blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey once again shows his true colors&#8211;apparently Schumer and Feinstein were color-blind.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140318', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zimzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zimzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mukasey is one sick phuck.

Then we have Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, handing out billions to private entities.

&lt;em&gt;Gonzo may be gone, but the drips just keep coming!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey is one sick phuck.</p>
<p>Then we have Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, handing out billions to private entities.</p>
<p><em>Gonzo may be gone, but the drips just keep coming!</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/06/musasey-appoints-torture-apologist-as-his-chief-of-staff/comment-page-1/#comment-5140226</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a bill to rename the department to 

DOCI

Dept of Criminal Injustice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a bill to rename the department to </p>
<p>DOCI</p>
<p>Dept of Criminal Injustice&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140226', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flavorino</title>
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		<dc:creator>flavorino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;stateofthedivision Says:
A pox on the Justice Department for their pattern of injustices. Oh, they’re speaking on that very topic right now in regard to the evidence against Dr. Ivin.

One representative just said they wouldn’t talk about the evidence!&lt;/em&gt;

EVIDENCE?!??    WE DON&#039;T NEED NO STINKING EVIDENCE!
That&#039;s a quaint concept.......just like the Geneva Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>stateofthedivision Says:<br />
A pox on the Justice Department for their pattern of injustices. Oh, they’re speaking on that very topic right now in regard to the evidence against Dr. Ivin.</p>
<p>One representative just said they wouldn’t talk about the evidence!</em></p>
<p>EVIDENCE?!??    WE DON&#8217;T NEED NO STINKING EVIDENCE!<br />
That&#8217;s a quaint concept&#8230;&#8230;.just like the Geneva Convention.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140208', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jpopphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpopphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After eight years of lies, damn lies and more lies, we need a Truth and Reconciliation committee to take a long and serious look at what government officials have done in our name.

Those who approved torture should be held to account for their actions.  Those who actually carried out the torture should be investigated as well.  The American people have a right to know who ordered what and who did what to whom.

Anyone who was involved in the systematic torture of prisoners should be brought to justice.  This includes everyone from the lowest level private to the Commander in Chief himself.  No one is above the law.  Those found guilty should be made to pay the price for their actions.

If we can&#039;t bring justice to our own, how can we expect to bring justice to others?  Al Qaeda&#039;s actions do not give us carte blanche to throw our values and beliefs out the window.  We are better than that; we&#039;re supposed to be a superpower.  It sure has been a long time since we acted like one... well, a responsible one anyway.  The punch-drunk Bush administration has a lot to account for, not the least of which are these un-American activities that took place during their watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After eight years of lies, damn lies and more lies, we need a Truth and Reconciliation committee to take a long and serious look at what government officials have done in our name.</p>
<p>Those who approved torture should be held to account for their actions.  Those who actually carried out the torture should be investigated as well.  The American people have a right to know who ordered what and who did what to whom.</p>
<p>Anyone who was involved in the systematic torture of prisoners should be brought to justice.  This includes everyone from the lowest level private to the Commander in Chief himself.  No one is above the law.  Those found guilty should be made to pay the price for their actions.</p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t bring justice to our own, how can we expect to bring justice to others?  Al Qaeda&#8217;s actions do not give us carte blanche to throw our values and beliefs out the window.  We are better than that; we&#8217;re supposed to be a superpower.  It sure has been a long time since we acted like one&#8230; well, a responsible one anyway.  The punch-drunk Bush administration has a lot to account for, not the least of which are these un-American activities that took place during their watch.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140202', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country&#039;s government is now officially a nightmare from hell.

Visions of the 1968 night of the living dead come to mind.
With the bush administration wandering blindly around outside the farmhouse eating the innards of it&#039;s own people while what&#039;s left of the country&#039;s citizens huddle inside boarding up the windows listening to am radio news praying for a ray of hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This country&#8217;s government is now officially a nightmare from hell.</p>
<p>Visions of the 1968 night of the living dead come to mind.<br />
With the bush administration wandering blindly around outside the farmhouse eating the innards of it&#8217;s own people while what&#8217;s left of the country&#8217;s citizens huddle inside boarding up the windows listening to am radio news praying for a ray of hope.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140200', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pox on the Justice Department for their pattern of injustices.  Oh, they&#039;re speaking on that very topic right now in regard to the evidence against Dr. Ivin.  

One representative just said they wouldn&#039;t talk about the evidence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pox on the Justice Department for their pattern of injustices.  Oh, they&#8217;re speaking on that very topic right now in regard to the evidence against Dr. Ivin.  </p>
<p>One representative just said they wouldn&#8217;t talk about the evidence!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140196', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: oldtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank Senator Schumer for the nice recommendation of a traitor in Mukasey.  Guess Mr. Schumer is a traitor as well.  You can&#039;t have it both ways senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank Senator Schumer for the nice recommendation of a traitor in Mukasey.  Guess Mr. Schumer is a traitor as well.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways senator.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140192', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flavorino</title>
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		<dc:creator>flavorino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress has given the Bush gang everything they want and the Bush gang has in turn given the American people the worst government in U.S. history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress has given the Bush gang everything they want and the Bush gang has in turn given the American people the worst government in U.S. history.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140186', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;MCMetal Says: 

Can this imbecile cite 1 example of a “threatened terrorist attack” that’s been thwarted that would justify his insane and idiotic argument ?

August 6th, 2008 at 3:33 pm&lt;/i&gt;
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You seem to forget that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Shaykh_al-Libi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ibn ash-Shaykh al-Libi&lt;/a&gt; warned us about Saddam Hussein training al-Qa&#039;ida operatives in the use of biological and chemical weapons.  And how did we get that valuable information?  Torture.

And then of course there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdallah_Higazy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Abd Allah Higazy&lt;/a&gt;, the Egyptian who confessed to helping plot the 9/11 attacks after we threatened to have his family tortured.

Never mind that both of these were false confessions.  That doesn&#039;t matter in Bushworld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>MCMetal Says: </p>
<p>Can this imbecile cite 1 example of a “threatened terrorist attack” that’s been thwarted that would justify his insane and idiotic argument ?</p>
<p>August 6th, 2008 at 3:33 pm</i><br />
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<p>You seem to forget that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Shaykh_al-Libi" rel="nofollow">Ibn ash-Shaykh al-Libi</a> warned us about Saddam Hussein training al-Qa&#8217;ida operatives in the use of biological and chemical weapons.  And how did we get that valuable information?  Torture.</p>
<p>And then of course there&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdallah_Higazy" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Abd Allah Higazy</a>, the Egyptian who confessed to helping plot the 9/11 attacks after we threatened to have his family tortured.</p>
<p>Never mind that both of these were false confessions.  That doesn&#8217;t matter in Bushworld.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140164', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mongo - that&#039;s exactly what came to my mind upon reading that &#039;argument&#039;.

Btw - who decides that the torture would be due to a &quot;threatened terrorist attack&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mongo &#8211; that&#8217;s exactly what came to my mind upon reading that &#8216;argument&#8217;.</p>
<p>Btw &#8211; who decides that the torture would be due to a &#8220;threatened terrorist attack&#8221;?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140160', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse,&lt;/em&gt;

So, he is saying sometimes they torture for what they consider a worthwhile reason, and sometimes they do it just for kicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse,</em></p>
<p>So, he is saying sometimes they torture for what they consider a worthwhile reason, and sometimes they do it just for kicks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping it in the Family, I see.

Screw you, Mucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping it in the Family, I see.</p>
<p>Screw you, Mucky.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140154', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act.”

Allow me to translate:

&quot;The end justifies the means.&quot;

The ultimate justification of all totalitarians and tyrants throughout history.

This is the exact principle the founders of this country sought to overturn in their creation of the American government.

Gee, 232 years.  It was a good run while it lasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act.”</p>
<p>Allow me to translate:</p>
<p>&#8220;The end justifies the means.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ultimate justification of all totalitarians and tyrants throughout history.</p>
<p>This is the exact principle the founders of this country sought to overturn in their creation of the American government.</p>
<p>Gee, 232 years.  It was a good run while it lasted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5140150', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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