American Conservative: It was Feith’s office, not CIA, that forged the Habbush letter.
American Conservative: It was Feith’s office, not CIA, that forged the Habbush letter.
Ron Suskind’s new book alleges that the White House ordered the CIA to forge a letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam Hussein linking the dictator to the 9/11 terrorists. The American Conservative’s Philip Giraldi argues today that “an extremely reliable and well placed source in the intelligence community” told him Suskind’s overall claim “is correct,” but that it was Douglas Feith’s Office of Special Plans — not the CIA — that forged the letter:
My source also notes that Dick Cheney, who was behind the forgery, hated and mistrusted the Agency and would not have used it for such a sensitive assignment. Instead, he went to Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans and asked them to do the job. … It was Feith’s office that produced the letter and then surfaced it to the media in Iraq. Unlike the [Central Intelligence] Agency, the Pentagon had no restrictions on it regarding the production of false information to mislead the public. Indeed, one might argue that Doug Feith’s office specialized in such activity.
A CIA counterrorism expert said that, in the run-up to war, Feith’s office recommended that the CIA’s finding of no link between Iraq al Qaeda relations “be ignored. Not challenged, not made the subject of a critical dialogue between policymakers and analysts, but ignored.”
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More evidence that Feith is a War Criminal!!!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:23 pmDixie, they are ALL war criminals!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:24 pmThe Office of Special Lying/Deceiving/Fu(kingovertheAmericanPublic, Cheney’s private Gestapo.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:25 pmI have a “special plan” for people like Feith, it involves a black hood and rendition to the hague.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:28 pmThe Stupidest Fu(king Guy On the Planet™.
Good call, Dick.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:29 pmDang, how many nefarious minions bark when ordered to break the law by the Bush brown shirts? Opps, I mean gold ties!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:32 pmand Tommy Franks looks like a genius AGAIN!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:32 pmGreat… another extremely reliable UNNAMED source stirring the pot… fantastic!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:34 pmThis is how ludicrous this whole situation has become. I actually found myself reading this entry and thinking to myself, “Oh, yes. That makes more sense. Sure, it was Feith’s office; not the CIA.”
Instead, I should just be plain f’ing angry.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:35 pmDid anyone catch Feith on the Daily Show a few weeks ago? He was plugging his book and it was absolutely hilarious to watch Jon take his head off, without even trying. Finally he just stopped and it looked like he actually felt sorry for the scumbag.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:35 pmThis strikes me as a distinction without a difference. I can see what they’re trying to do. They’re trying to decriminalize the action by asserting that one office ordered it rather than another. It muddies up the waters. If CIA agents are operating under the aegis of the OSP are they bound by the rules of the CIA? But, who cares? It is just as pernicious for the OSP to be creating forgeries as the CIA. It is tantamount to treason in either case.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:37 pmCan Pelosi now pull out the f-ing table and put impeachment back on it?
August 7th, 2008 at 6:38 pmThe whole Bush/Cheney gangster regime currently holed up in the White House are all worthless, lying traitors.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:38 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
“Great… another extremely reliable UNNAMED source stirring the pot… fantastic!”
I believe the quote runs: “The American Conservative’s Philip Giraldi argues today that “an extremely reliable and well placed source in the intelligence community”
August 7th, 2008 at 6:38 pmralph the wonder llama,
I don’t think Dick(head) is stupid…sorry to disagre because I LOVE your comments!!
IMHO he got everything he wanted…a puppet president he could manipulate(sic?), high gas…war with obscene profits…a dying middle-class…a huge deficit…spending through the roof…
All leading to bringing the USA into the 3rd World as fast as possible so that he and his global, elite, fascist, DEMOCRACY HATING FORIEGN buddies can eventually run every country and every society at their will. For their sole profit!!!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:39 pmOT (unless the topic is the stupidity of the Bush amdinistration):
In March, 2003, eighteen months or so after (allegedly) mailing anthrax to sitting senators and killing at least five in a domstic terrorist attack, the Pentagon awarded Bruce Ivins a medal.
I shit you not.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pmQuoting from the article: “Unlike the [Central Intelligence] Agency, the Pentagon had no restrictions on it regarding the production of false information to mislead the public.” Who is kidding who with this glib commentary? The Pentagon has been caught seeding the press with its own favorable press and it had better be restricted!! I am so sick of my misgovernment run amuck with schmucks. Where has honor gone particularly in the military? I want to see an indictment of the idiot Feith who misused government at his convenience.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:43 pmWell, Douglas Feith is the “f ucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth.”
August 7th, 2008 at 6:44 pmFeith will likely ‘be suicided’ by the end of the weekend.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:44 pmQuestion: Do you know how to tell Doug Feith is lying?
August 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pmAnswer: Whenever he moves his lips.
Pathological liar and neocon Ari Fleischer got a job with the Packers-maybe unprincipled, pathological liar and neocon Doug Feith can land a job with the NBA refereeing games with Tim Donaghy–they both seem to have the same morals.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pmFrom the article in American Conservative:
The Pentagon has its own false documents center, primarily used to produce fake papers for Delta Force and other special ops officers traveling under cover as businessmen. It was Feith’s office that produced the letter and then surfaced it to the media in Iraq.
Most likely, this false documents center was created to act against the ENEMY. What does it say about Cheney’s thinking, that this center was used against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:02 pmMakes sense…this is the same shop that did the Niger yellowcake forgery, afterall. I’m betting that Feith will sing like a canary if we can get an independent prosecutor to investigate this war crime.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:19 pmTheir evil lives after them
August 7th, 2008 at 7:21 pmForged letters,missing emails, outed CIA agents, the Ivins/Antrax investigation/travesty, the corrupted Justice Dept, lies, deceit etc, etc ad naseum.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:44 pmThis Administration is riddled with rats, traitors, lawbreakers and liars.
Normally I would say this requires Congressional investigations, but apparently we don’t have anything even approximating a normal functioning Congress.
Innocent Bystander,
August 7th, 2008 at 7:46 pmI agree. How come noone cares who forged the Niger Document? Was it OSP? Was it Michael LeDeen? How did it get into Bush’s SOTU 11 months after it was debunked? How can noone be guilty of anything?
Innocent Bystander Says:
Makes sense…this is the same shop that did the Niger yellowcake forgery, afterall. I’m betting that Feith will sing like a canary if we can get an independent prosecutor to investigate this war crime.
It sure does make sense, but I think Feith isn’t going to sing like a canary because he is so stupid he believes his own bull****……or he will be taken care of….one way or another..Presidential commutation/pardon?…payoff…..suicide?
August 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pmIt’ll be fun watching him scwirm on this too.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:51 pmKeith Says:
Innocent Bystander,
I agree. How come noone cares who forged the Niger Document? Was it OSP? Was it Michael LeDeen? How did it get into Bush’s SOTU 11 months after it was debunked? How can noone be guilty of anything?
Ah yes, the burglary of the Niger embassy in Italy……I forgot about that one.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:56 pmThere are so many crimes and potential crimes connected to this Administration it’s impossible to remember them all without a written list.
Keith,
According to the NY Times…the ITALIANS did it:
ROME, Nov. 3 - Italy’s spymaster identified an Italian occasional spy named Rocco Martino on Thursday as the disseminator of forged documents that described efforts by Iraq to buy uranium ore from Niger for a nuclear weapons program, three lawmakers said Thursday.
The spymaster, Gen. Nicolò Pollari, director of the Italian military intelligence agency known as Sismi, disclosed that Mr. Martino was the source of the forged documents in closed-door testimony to a parliamentary committee that oversees secret services, the lawmakers said.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2005/ 11/ 04/ international/ europe/ 04italy.html
August 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pmFeith in trouble? I LOVE IT!
August 7th, 2008 at 8:01 pmHA HA! he’s my FAVORITE Bushco criminal - look at his face! you can almost see the ulcer just gurgling.
August 7th, 2008 at 8:12 pmEvergreen2U Says:
Their evil lives after them
Sadly, the same cannot be said about thousands of Americans, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
I’m shaking even as I write…
PEACE
August 7th, 2008 at 8:17 pmBadger,
Thanks for the info. But what did Martino stand to gain from the forgery? Was the White House willing to pay a lot?
The NYT is misleading when it says “But the information was later revealed to have been based on forgeries.” It was later revealed to the PUBLIC that it was a forgery—but it was known in Cheny’s office 11 months before it found its way into the SOTU. Wilson reported to Cheney’s office 11 months before the SOTU. Tenet had taken it out of a previous speech because it was a forgery.
Also the “aluminum tubes” were known to be for conventional weapons 11 months before they were mentioned in the SOTU as being for nuclear weapons.
August 7th, 2008 at 8:30 pmThat, I believe, was an illegal act under US law. Impeach Cheny and Feith now!
August 7th, 2008 at 8:30 pmANSWERS–jeez, where’d that hillbilly apostophe come from?
August 7th, 2008 at 8:31 pm“Keith Says:
Badger,
Thanks for the info. But what did Martino stand to gain from the forgery? Was the White House willing to pay a lot?”
The correct questions to ask. I have no doubts that a real investigation finds that neocon warmonger Ledeen’s fingerprints all over this “evidence”.
August 7th, 2008 at 8:37 pm“Keith Says:
Badger,
Thanks for the info. But what did Martino stand to gain from the forgery? Was the White House willing to pay a lot?”
The correct questions to ask. I have no doubts that a real investigation finds that neocon warmonger Ledeen’s fingerprints all over this “evidence”.
August 7th, 2008 at 8:37 pmTired of being lied to Says:
Question: Do you know how to tell Doug Feith is lying?
Answer: Whenever he moves his lips.
Question: Do you know how to tell Doug Feith is lying?
Answer: Whenever CHENEY pulls the strings to make him move his lips.
There fixed now.
HNAG Cheney!!
August 7th, 2008 at 8:51 pmDid the neo-cons offer free lobotomies with membership in their war criminal club?
August 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pmThe Cheney people thought it was so important to establish the Iraq/al-Qaeda link that they were reportedly willing to have someone tortured to get a false confession confirming it, especially to make use of the anthrax scare. Jane Mayer in The Dark Side page 135 says at that time detainee al-Libi was rendered to Egypt for interrogation. As Mayer describes it, the interrogators knew what they wanted him to say. They pressured him about ties between al-Qaeda and Iraq. “The Egyptian interrogators wanted more, though…they pressed him about Saddam Hussein supplying Al Qaeda with anthrax and other biological weapons.” He fabricated evidence under torture which was “piped into the Vice President’s office, among other places, and used by the Bush Administration to buttress its allegations that Iraq was on the verge of supplying Al Qaeda with potentially terrifying weapons of mass destruction.” Bush began talking about what we “have learned” about Iraq training al-qaeda, and the torture confession was used to persuade Powell to give his Iraq/WMD speech to the UN. Nice people.
August 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pmThe American Conservative?? Given that, Feith will be the second pardoned by GWB after Cheney. Can we get these guys on tax evasion after Bush goes? It may be the only way.
August 7th, 2008 at 9:26 pmUnlike the [Central Intelligence] Agency, the Pentagon had no restrictions on it regarding the production of false information to mislead the public.
This is not true. There are laws against the DoD conducting any type of PSYOP against the American public. DoD gets around the law by aiming it’s information campaigns at foreign outlets. They know in the current information environment what is news at 9am eastern in London will be in the US news cycle by noon.
August 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pmInstead, he went to Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans and asked them to do the job. … It was Feith’s office that produced the letter and then surfaced it to the media in Iraq.
Proving what? That Feith acted alone in lying to Congress and the American people to take us into an unnecessary war? On the contrary, show us one high level government official who isn’t complicit in this disgrace.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pmI am not an attorney, but maybe someone that reads this can answer this question. It seems that Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Fleischer, The whole Office of Special Plans crowd and some of the PNAC crowd have dual citizenship with Israel. Even Michael Chertoff, the head of the most powerful agency is an Israeli citizen. When Ari Fleischer testified before Congress he was given immunity. Is there some loophole these people have created to prevent themselves from ever being prosecuted for their crimes. They all always seem so arrogant and smug. There is also a buzz on the internet that the Clintons are dual citizens with Ireland because there is no extradition. Can someone elaborate on these questions?
August 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmKaren Kwiatkowski says the same thing:
http://video.csupomona.edu/ HotTalk/ KarenKwiatkowski-245.asx
Intelligence fixed around the policy.
August 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pmFeith is my favorite a-hole.
August 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmAnd Feith’s Office of Special Plans was closely aligned with Ahmad Chalabi and all the Iraqi exiles who’d plotted for years to overthrow Saddam Hussein and oust all the Sunni Baathists from Iraq’s government.
Hmmmm, another forgery…where have I heard of a forgery being created and planted to justify invading Iraq?
Oh, right, the Niger document forgeries which alleged that Saddam Hussein was trying to acquire yellow-cake uranium from the French-controlled uranium mines in Niger. Forged documents that the Bush administration, and Feith’s Office of Special Plans, tried to keep anyone else from seeing, that is, until the IAEA saw them in early 2003 just before Bush ordered Iraq attacked, with the IAEA immediately recognizing them as forgeries.
I just wonder if the same people behind the Niger forgery are the same people behind this Habbush forgery? It just smells like the same modus operandi to me. The Niger document forgery tried to paint Hussein as a nuclear threat, while the Habbush forgery was intended to connect Hussein to al Qaeda. Therefore, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the same group of individuals that came up with the first forgery also came up with the second.
August 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmFinding out that it wasn’t the CIA, I feel much better.
Really I do. Really. Right !
August 7th, 2008 at 11:32 pmRats will turn on the other rats. Feith is far to stupid to think this up on his own let alone actually do it. Someone higher up had to give the go ahead since this information was leaked to the press and talked up buy Cheney and McCain leading up to the invasion.
August 8th, 2008 at 12:22 am.
TREASON:
Let me argue that making false and misleading statements that create conditions which foment terrorism directed at one’s Nation IS a deliberate act that invites hostility back upon one’s Nation; An act of SEDITION… a lower crime to treason, yet still… are we safer now than we were 8 years ago?
Are we more liked in the Middle East now?
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August 8th, 2008 at 2:12 amtreachery to one’s country
I think the 935 lies easily comes under “treachery to one’s country”.
August 8th, 2008 at 3:41 amThat’s not surprising. Feith is a traitor who does NOT have the best interest of the United States at heart.
August 8th, 2008 at 8:32 amMilitant Zionism and the invasion of Iraq
Jul 30, 2008
…think tanks and their neoconservative media mouthpieces published a number of policy papers that plainly call for regime change, border change, and demographic upheaval. In 1996 an influential Israeli think tank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, sponsored a document titled “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” which proposed that the Netanyahu regime “should ‘make a clean break’ with the Oslo peace process and reassert Israel’s claim to the West Bank and Gaza. It presented a plan whereby Israel would ‘shape its strategic environment,’ beginning with the removal of Saddam Hussein . . . to serve as a first step toward eliminating the anti-Israeli governments of Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran.”
The “study group” behind the policy included Douglass Feith, David Wurmser, and Richard Perle among others. The document was intended for the incoming Israeli government yet many of its planners went on to become influential with the Bush regime.
In an “Open Letter to the President,” dated February 19, 1998, a number of neocon lobbyists recommended “a comprehensive political and military strategy for bringing down Saddam Hussein and his regime.” Among the letter’s signers were Elliot Abrahms, Richard Armitage, John Bolton, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, David Wurmser, Richard Perle, William Kristol, Frank Gaffney, Joshua Muravchik, Martin Peretz, and Steven Solarz. The similarities between the two document’s recommendations draw a stark picture of loyalty to the interests of Israel first and foremost, with the interests of the military industrial complex being served in a secondary way. Many of the same sponsors went on to issue a report titled: “Rebuilding Americas Defenses” which called for an expanded US military presence in the Middle East using Iraq as a stepping stone for regional force application: “While the unresolved conflict in Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.”
http://onlinejournal.com/ artman/ publish/ article_3561.shtml
August 8th, 2008 at 10:18 amThe entire GOP should be tried under RICO statues as a crime syndicate!
August 8th, 2008 at 11:22 amNormally I would say this requires Congressional investigations, but apparently we don’t have anything even approximating a normal functioning Congress.
Although, I too, am disappointed in the decrepitude of Congress in dealing with the havoc the Bush Administration in its entirety has wreaked upon the nation and the Constitution. Its crimes are of such magnitude, depth and enormity such as have never, ever been experienced in the history of the nation from its very inception. The “shock and awe” that Rumsfeld promised to visit upon Iraq in reality been overwhelming (and well designed and implemented) constant shock and awe of crime and corruption that has made it a situation so monstrous that dealing with is becomes almost beyond any means with which to cope. Imagine the earthquake/tsunami that battered Aceh in Indonesia in December 2004 happening on a weekly basis. This is the problem with which Congress has had to deal. Up until 2006, consider how many Administration Republicans enabllers were still members of that Congress. This comment should not be construed as excusing Congressional inactive where action should have or might have taken place, but it does serve to some degree as an explanation of why it didn’t happen.
August 8th, 2008 at 11:36 amThis situation is not like attempting beak up a s*** fight in the monkey cage - the current is like a massive s*** storm encompassing Disney World and spreading into the Orlando environs. Where to start first?? It stinks every where!!
Since when is the Office of Special Plans NOT an office of CIA? OSP has always been CIA. For CIA to say OSP is not a related organ is a deception on it’s own. In the CIA we see an overall administrator called The Director of Central Intelligence or DCI. Below him are the Deputy offices: DDA(Deputy Director of Administration), DDO (Deputy Director of Operations), DDI (Deputy Director of Intelligence) and finally, Deputy Director of Planning and Coordination aka DDP or Deputy Director of Plans. This final office contains the OSP. Anyone thinking The Office of Special Plans is not a part of CIA has not studied the subject well enough…. Doug Feith is CIA, Probably in the Office of Cover & Deception, another sub office of OSP.
August 8th, 2008 at 1:00 pmsubpoena feith to appear under oath before congress again to answer to these charges about the OSP which he was in charge of. these war criminals must be brought to account for their deadly actions which have cost so many lives and money.
August 8th, 2008 at 5:13 pmthe media needs to track this guy Habbush down and try and get the facts from him about what went down regarding this forged letter. why isn’t this being done?
August 8th, 2008 at 5:22 pmAugust 9th, 2008 at 1:03 am