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Tyson plant caves to right-wing bloggers.

Recently, Tyson Foods said it would drop Labor Day as a paid vacation day and substitute the Muslim holiday Eid as part of a new five-year contract, in order to accommodate Muslim workers. In response, right-wing bloggers were enraged. Mark Krikorian of the National Review, for example, called it a “war on Labor Day.” Today, the company backtracked:

[M]any anti-immigrant groups and right-wing bloggers called for a boycott of Tyson, saying the contract betrayed an important American holiday and was an improper concession to Islam.

In a news release on Friday, Tyson said it had asked the union to revise the plant’s contract and restore Labor Day as a paid holiday because some Shelbyville employees had expressed concern about the contract’s provisions.

The revised contract again makes Labor Day a paid holiday but also keeps Id al-Fitr (pronounced eed-al-FIT-tr) — which marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting — as a paid holiday for those who want it.

Malkin took credit for the change in policy on her blog today.

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75 Responses to “Tyson plant caves to right-wing bloggers.”

  1. darladooner says:

    regardless of the company’s position on the muslim holiday, labor day should still constitute a paid holiday for its employees.


  2. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    If they are going to take back the Muslin holiday then they should also take back the Christian holiday. Let’s see Tyson foods open on Christmas. I don’t eat Tyson foods anyway. They have a history of animal abuse.


  3. Ms_Joanne says:

    While I loathe Malkin and her ilk, Tyson was wrong for dropping Labor Day as a holiday. What they did as a revision is what they should have done all along.

    If it was up to me, they could keep all the religious holidays and give them off to people who believe. I don’t need Christmas or Yom Kippur off. I am good with Memorial Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and New Years…then let me pick the rest of the days I want off myself.


  4. Chuck Feney says:

    Conservatives care about Labor Day? Who knew? Next they’ll be agitating for unions at Tyson and Wal-Mart and marching in solidarity with the airline’s employees unions and The Communications Workers of America. Film at 11.


  5. JMOHR says:

    This is not a story of the mean right wingers, it is a story of the cheap corporation. No reason why one should not be able to pick between the two holidays or observe them both. (Not like we have too much vacation time – like Europe.) Just a way to tamp down on labor costs.


  6. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Oops… Muslim not muslin.


  7. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    …then let me pick the rest of the days I want off myself.

    I could agree to that Ms J.


  8. sectionop92 says:

    Malkin likes her Christmas bonus delivered by a grown up Baby Jesus as she toasts to keeping the “Ah-rubs” out of her Judeo-Christian nation she calls the United Congregations of God & Co.


  9. Max-1 says:

    .

    … But a Christmass holiday isn’t a consession?

    Really, America IS a theocratic Nation… The Republic just hasn’t woken up yet.

    .


  10. Chuck Feney says:

    Do these same right-wingers also have their undies in a bundle about an American corporation that wants to use Islamic law to apply to a lawsuit?
    The company is Blackwater.
    The story is here: http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1112843.html


  11. Nevar says:

    This could be just a smoke screen to cover making Cinco de Mayo a paid holiday… knowing Tyson’s record…


  12. DieNowForPeace says:

    Hell, I boycotted Tyson way before this.

    Sometime back when they started selling “pre-marinated” meat.

    “Blech!”

    Used to work near a Tyson plant an the smell was GAWD AWFUL.


  13. Ms_Joanne says:

    Chuck Feeney, IOKIYA a R company.


  14. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    This could be just a smoke screen to cover making Cinco de Mayo a paid holiday… knowing Tyson’s record…

    Nevar – very funny.

    Tyson foods supports factory farms where livestock are abused. If you want to buy chicken, buy from a local farmer. Know the quality of your food and that the animals were treated humanely.


  15. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Jonas – take out the racist remarks and maybe, just maybe we’ll let you post here. Otherwise, take your racism over to Malkin’s blog.


  16. conniptionfit says:

    Since when do right wingers care about LABOR day?? Labor day is supposed to be the celebration of the hard work done by the workers and immigrants of America, everything that the right-wingers like la Malkin have proved time and again that they are fighting against.


  17. DieNowForPeace says:

    MyNameIsJonas Says:

    Cry me a river dipshit.

    Tell it to Redstate.org, they’ve cornered the market in “controlling the message.”


  18. dixie blood says:

    Labor Day is a celebration of Unions, Unionization, collective bargaining, vacations, no-child labor, paid overtime, etc.

    Do the RePugniScums know what they are supporting? I welcome thier newly found pro-labor position!


  19. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    dixie – The right wing thinks that they are observing another “hot dog and hamburger” holiday.


  20. blue state bob says:

    Can Michelle Malkin go to Manila and whore herself out for $20 a pop, at least she will make sense doing that.


  21. Gregor Samsa says:

    Of course Tyson Foods was wrong in dropping Labor Day as a payed holiday. I realise they had their bottom line in mind, but this is silly.

    And of course the reichwingers were wrong in labeling it a “war on Labor Day”. I find their imagery interesting, though: Everything is a “war” on something.

    Even more interesting, reichwingers worried about Labor Day? The day meant to celebrate the working class? Who would’ve thunk!?


  22. superid says:

    Great work Malkin! Now Tyson recognizes a day commemorating organized unions and a Muslim holiday. I would call that progress. For a self-hating fascist you actually did some good. Felix Culpa!


  23. misshusseinmolly says:

    I’m not sure this worked out the way the wingnuts and Islamophobes wanted — now the Somali workers get an extra paid holiday, which is probably what Tyson should have done in the first place.

    I wonder if the right-wing blogosphere would have had as much of a hissy fit if the work force consisted primarily of Jews and their union requested Yom Kippur off?

    I would think the sensible thing to do would be to provide every employee with a “floating” holiday they could use whenever they wish to observe a date not on the company’s official holiday calendar. Then everybody could observe either Eid al-Fitr, Eid al-Adha, Yom Kippur, Passover, Good Friday, All Saint’s Day, Diwali, their birthday, or just an extra day off. Many companies do this.


  24. misshusseinmolly says:

    Cheese and Crackers Says
    August 8th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Why should the majority of the employees get an Islamic religious holiday day off work, and have to come to work on Labor Day?
    _________________________________________________________

    Um…because at the Shelbyville plant, this is what the majority of the employees wanted. The majority of the employees are Muslims. Which is why the union made the request in the first place.


  25. The Geico Gecko says:

    This is sad. As a Progressive I support Islam.


  26. belac says:

    The Geico Gecko Says:
    Mr Progressive Says:
    Cheese and Crackers Says:

    Wow… how many sock-puppets can one thread hold?
    Everyone be careful not to tug too hard on this thread, or they will all unravel.


  27. misshusseinmolly says:

    Mr Progressive Says
    August 8th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
    This is a victory for the Workers! Tyson tried to pull a fast one, but we showed them!

    The Geico Gecko Says
    August 8th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
    This is sad. As a Progressive I support Islam.
    _________________________________________________________
    Further proof that trolls can’t read. This poor Cheeto eater doesn’t realize that the Muslim workers wound up with a better deal than they had before. Now they get Eid al-Fitr AND Labor Day off with pay.

    Which, unless this troll works at the Tyson plant in Shelbyville, won’t affect him in the slightest.


  28. belac says:

    MissMolly- Careful, I said! We don’t want them to fall apart just yet… they may come up with a good movie title one thread up!


  29. belac says:

    Nope- nevermind… go ahead and tug, no good titles at all.


  30. MapleStreet says:

    Let’s look at it another way. As I understand it, the local labor union asked for the Muslim Holiday instead of Labor Day. As the Union is elected by the people, why should Malkin want to overrule the desires of the people. Isn’t that kind of un-democratic?


  31. Gregor Samsa says:

    Trajan is back with his Islamophobia and his schizophrenic rants on the Islamo-leftists alliance, I see.

    Flag the troll…


  32. belac says:

    another victory for free speach.

    and another loss for the English language…


  33. misshusseinmolly says:

    The Geico Gecko Says
    August 8th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    misshusseinmolly,
    That is the establishment of a parallel Islamic society. That is just a phase of what they are doing.
    They want a society within society.
    Get your head out of the sand.
    __________________________________________________________

    Have fun with your paranoia…


  34. ralph the wonder llama says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    Malkin simply helped raise democracy on a larger scale. Now that the message has been broadcast to most Americans, we can now choose whether they want to continue to support Tyson.

    Sounds like democracy to me. Moreover, sounds like another victory for free speach.

    Funny how there wasn’t a peep about this in the leftist media. It took a right winger to uncover it.

    Ahh democracy, I love it.

    What a fu(king idiot troll.

    Doesn’t even know the difference between democracy and capitalism. Between a political system and an economic one.

    there’s no reason it should, actually. those are fairly abstract concepts, and require at least a sixth grade education to grasp.


  35. Saint Augustine says:

    The trolls that visit here would have gone nuts (had the internet been in existence) when my union negotiated a Martin Luther King Day holiday years before it became a Federal holiday. That was the ILA, the International Longshoremen Association, Local 333, Port of Baltimore. ILA all the way. ILA I Love America.

    Every employee in America should have the same holidays and vacation benefits as our Congress critters, and don’t forget health benefits too.


  36. pete says:

    Wow! Who threw the grenade in the sock puppet drawer?


  37. Saint Augustine says:

    pmavrk2

    I stand by what I said, keep posting further proof of your ignorance of the English language.


  38. blip_blap says:

    Nice to know the Republicans are continuing their strong support of Labor.


  39. dbadass says:

    pmavrck2>
    What happened to pmavrck? Did it get branded?


  40. Jess Wonderin says:

    prnark2 -
    MLK Republican?? SO?? Point??

    Any fool knows that a current “Compassionate Conservative Republican” is SO far removed from the Goldwater Conservative that it defies comparison. MLK’s work, words and actions has non-partisan appeal to basic human rights, and you can be sure had he lived, GITMO would have been a target of his concern. So what is your point?

    Your hanging tags of “liberal” and “Republican” to negatively, are defining actions speaks volumes of your narrow view.

    As a former Union Member and Viet Vet I realize that Tyson was trying to exploit labor and cheap shot the workers by taking an American Traditional Celebration of Labor to cover a legitimate request to accommodate the religious desires of it’s labor force. If a group wants to take the First Day of Cootiemundi, or Rama-lama-ding-Dong, or Toke-A-Bong Day or Deer Season Opening Day as a negotiate union benefit . . . great, more power to them – but don’t TAKE “benefits” . . . .


  41. dbadass says:

    I said branded not banned. Get with the program.


  42. Zooey says:

    I’m just grateful TP didn’t post a picture of Malkin.

    Thank you!


  43. The Geico Gecko says:

    Why do you Leftists support the Jihad?


  44. dbadass says:

    Hi Geico Gecko:
    This is super odd that a corporate lizard might post such a weird statement which has nothing to do with anything of substance. There must be some mistake. Might you clarify? I smell an attention getting device…


  45. dbadass says:

    Hi pmavrck2:
    Don’t you think that herpetology thing was sort of weird?


  46. The Geico Gecko says:

    Islam will rule America!


  47. mauro7inf says:

    This is hilarious. The right wing wants to celebrate LABOR DAY?


  48. Paul W says:

    Labor day honors all workers while religious holidays honor only the believers. The Christmas holiday however, needn’t be given back, only returned to what it once was before the Christians hijacked it. The winter solstice has been celebrated for countless generations by cultures worldwide and there’s no reason for it not to continue.

    In any case, accusations from the right calling Tyson’s move “a war on Labor day” are disingenous to the extreme, the right has been waging its own war on labor for years now.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  49. Game of Life says:

    Let’s take away MLK day and replace it with a Muslim holiday that way it will make them very happy.


  50. tarazan says:

    I don’t know why this should bother anybody?..taking a holdiday is a matter between the employee and the employer…
    Why these so called Conservative stick their noses where they don’t belong…?
    THIS IS DISGUSTING..
    It is none of the business of outsiders, since government and local laws are not violated…
    Give me a break!
    If companies and politicians start to cave in to sick people like Malkin…then we are in a big trouble as a society.!


  51. phantasymanINphantasyland says:

    I am a semi-conservative union member (CWA 4302) and I would like to pose a quick question… Why not let the muslims trade Christmas for Id al-Fitr? That way the plant can stay open on both “holidays” and Labor day won’t even be involved.


  52. ralph the wonder llama says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    why don’t we just let anyone come to the country and replace MLK day with Vladamir Stalin Day. They could replace Presidents day with Dictator day. How about replacing Thanksgiving Day with Selfish Immigrant Day. Veterans Day with Pacifist Day sound good to you tarazan???

    Who the hell is Vladimir Stalin?

    Other than that, brilliantly argued piece of satire. This portrayal of a “conservative” will inspire people to embrace liberal views in droves.


  53. ralph the wonder llama says:

    By the way, Pee Mav, I retired early last night and didn’t catch your challenge to explain the difference between “democracy” and “capitlaism” last evening.

    Sorry ’bout that. I don’t know if anyone else handled the task, but here goes a quick answer:

    “Capitalism” is an economic system, an principle of organization by which goods and services are exchanged.

    Let’s go to wikipedia:

    Capitalism, the economic system, is the system in which the means of production are owned by private persons, and operated for profit[1] and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a free market.

    “Democracy” is a political system, a principle of organization by which administrative and legislative power is assigned and executed.

    Again, wikipedia:

    Democracy is a system of government by which political sovereignty is retained by the people and exercised directly by citizens. In modern times it has also been used to refer to a constitutional republic where the people have a voice through their elected representatives.

    Who people vote on a ballot question or (by extension) vote for a candidate to represent them, that is commonly called “democracy”.

    When people choose to purchase or not purchase a product, for whatever reason, that is capitalism.

    Get the difference now?

    You’re welcome.


  54. hussein toasterhead says:

    The Geico Gecko Says:

    Islam and the Left will triumph! The Leftist-Islamic alliance is unstoppable.
    August 8th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    _____
    Hey Trajan – getting bored reading the zero comments on TP Watch?


  55. ralph the wonder llama says:

    No Pee mav, you agree to hold a mistaken, distorted view of the term “democracy” and I agree to keep language functional by not trying to make one word mean something it doesn’t mean, at least to those who take language seriously.

    Anyone who thinks a “boycott” of a commercial product demonstrates “democracy” is either confused or dishonest.

    Which are you?

    And your excuse that “it was late” when you posted about Vladimir Stalin is a crock of shit, too. The time stamp of that post is exactly four minutes before mine.

    And, as I say, your point is clear — the attempt to convince open-minded people that conservatives are fools by posting ridiculous arguments as if they had some merit.

    Well done.


  56. hussein toasterhead says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    Could it be that the exact opposite is true? Could it be that Muslims are using the liberal’s pacifism against them to gain a foothold in this country? Interesting thought but not as far fetched as I would have initially thought. Seriously, the liberals have essentially rolled out the red carpet to anyone that wants to come in, as long as they are not Christian.

    Interesting bit of fiction there, moron. Got any statistics to back that up, or did you just pull it out of your ass like the rest of your political philosophy?

    Either way geeko, while there may be many liberals in this country that would happily hand everything over to Islam simply to spite conservative Christians ( e.g., The Left Coast and parts of the North East) I can assure you that the core of this country (the majority of the MidWest) will never bow to Islam.

    August 9th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    Liberals don’t hate Christians. Many of us are Christians. What we hate are hypocrites. The evangelical “Christians” who fly around in Lear jets and rake in millions of dollars in “first fruits” from gullible morons in the midwest, who do nothing but stir up fear and bigotry among their congregations.

    We believe religion should unite people. You folks use it to divide. We’re not trying to give Islam a “foothold” – we’re merely welcoming a brother religion to our country. If in the course of becoming a more welcoming and pluralistic society we recognize a few more holidays, fine by me. But it’s not going to “destroy” Christianity. Islam does not intend to destroy Christianity.


  57. Tim43 says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    No Pee mav, you agree to hold a mistaken, distorted view of the term “democracy” and I agree to keep language functional by not trying to make one word mean something it doesn’t mean, at least to those who take language seriously.

    Your statement very clearly shows your closed mind. So, your interpretation of democracy is the only one that stands, eh?

    Sounds like a typical liberal tyranny ralph.


  58. Tim43 says:

    By the way ralph….

    Let us put the shoe on the other foot. Let’s suppose that it was a Christian dominated union that voted to replace MLK day with something like Rev. Billy Graham Day. Would that be ok with you liberals???

    But because it was an Islamic Day replacing Labor Day, I guess that is ok, right Ralph???

    What a joke that liberal double standards are. Proves my point.


  59. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Tim43 Says:
    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    No Pee mav, you agree to hold a mistaken, distorted view of the term “democracy” and I agree to keep language functional by not trying to make one word mean something it doesn’t mean, at least to those who take language seriously.

    Your statement very clearly shows your closed mind. So, your interpretation of democracy is the only one that stands, eh?

    Sounds like a typical liberal tyranny ralph.

    No, Timmeh, not MY interpretation — the interpretation of lexicographers of the English language.

    Words either mean something or they mean whatever you want them to mean.

    Only problem with “whatever you want them to mean” is that communication eventually becomes impossible because there’s no common ground of understanding.

    If you guys want to believe that a consumer boycott of a commercial interest is “democracy” rather than “capitalism” because of a willfully distorted view of the term “power” you’re absolutely welcome to do so.

    Don’t expect to be taken seriously by people who actually understand what those terms mean, however.


  60. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Tim43 Says:
    By the way ralph….

    Let us put the shoe on the other foot. Let’s suppose that it was a Christian dominated union that voted to replace MLK day with something like Rev. Billy Graham Day. Would that be ok with you liberals???

    But because it was an Islamic Day replacing Labor Day, I guess that is ok, right Ralph???

    What a joke that liberal double standards are. Proves my point.

    Please explain the “double standard” to which you refer, Timmeh.

    I don’t think I said a word on this thread about the holidays in question. So your impugning me on some imagined “double standard” having to do with that issue is absurd. Probably based on some lazy exaggeration of your own biased stereotype of what us “liberals” are all supposed to think, that’s my guess.

    But now that you ask, if a Christian-dominated union voted to take one of their negotiated paid holidays in honor of Billy Graham, I wouldn’t have any objections. It’s not affecting me or my life, and since it’s not a government holiday, it doesn’t concern me.

    I don’t know why it should concern you, either.


  61. Tim43 says:


    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    But now that you ask, if a Christian-dominated union voted to take one of their negotiated paid holidays in honor of Billy Graham, I wouldn’t have any objections. It’s not affecting me or my life, and since it’s not a government holiday, it doesn’t concern me.

    Bull-craap Ralph. Everytime Christians try to do anything in this country you liberals cry foul. You cannot tell me with a straight face tha liberal crybabies in the ACLU would not cry foul if a Christian dominated union decided to override MLK day wiht Billy Martin Day. GET REAL RALPHY.

    Although, christians would never do such a thing, this is simply an example used to parallel what the Muslims attempted to do with Labor day.

    Noone would have said a word if the Muslims simply asked for an extra holiday above and beyond Labor day. The problem occured when they attempted to replace Labor day with with their holiday. GET IT RALPH???

    Democracy prevailed. The majority of clear minded people in this country spoke with their wallets. And guess what, Tyson bowed to the democracy. They chose to sell more chicken.


  62. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Tim43 Says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    But now that you ask, if a Christian-dominated union voted to take one of their negotiated paid holidays in honor of Billy Graham, I wouldn’t have any objections. It’s not affecting me or my life, and since it’s not a government holiday, it doesn’t concern me.

    Bull-craap Ralph. Everytime Christians try to do anything in this country you liberals cry foul. You cannot tell me with a straight face tha liberal crybabies in the ACLU would not cry foul if a Christian dominated union decided to override MLK day wiht Billy Martin Day. GET REAL RALPHY.

    I’m getting as real as I can, Timmeh.

    You asked me a question, I answered it honestly. The answer didn’t suit your agenda, so you assume I’m lying even though you nothing about me aside from what I’ve told you here or what else I’ve written on this blog. And nothing I’ve written contradicts anything I’ve said in this thread.

    Deal with it. Your cartoon stereotype of liberals has nothing to do with objective reality.

    And you really don’t do your argument any good with silly examples like “Billy Martin Day”.

    this is simply an example used to parallel what the Muslims attempted to do with Labor day.

    I understood that, and I answered in that vein.

    You didn’t like my answer because it confounded the stereotype you had invested in. Sorry about that.

    Noone would have said a word if the Muslims simply asked for an extra holiday above and beyond Labor day. The problem occured when they attempted to replace Labor day with with their holiday. GET IT RALPH???

    Yeah, I get it Timmeh. What I don’t get is how it affected you and the other non-members of this particular union.

    Would it affect your ability to take a Labor Day holiday?

    Would it eliminate Labor Day mattress sales?

    Would it force you to cancel your barbecue?

    What business is it of yours, Timmeh?

    Democracy prevailed. The majority of clear minded people in this country spoke with their wallets. And guess what, Tyson bowed to the democracy. They chose to sell more chicken.

    Well, in fact, Timmeh, as I tried to explain to your cohort, capitalism prevailed. No one actually “spoke with their wallets” but if they had as they threatened, that’s called “capitalism”.

    Democracy prevailed when the union members voted to celebrate a different holiday, because it was more meaningful to the majority of them. THAT is “democracy”.

    The threatened boycott, using the power of the marketplace and of consumer choice, was capitalism at work. A company made a decision based on its best business interests.

    See the difference?

    Oh, you don’t… ?

    well, I’ve explained it as simply and clearly as I think I can, Timmeh. You’re going to have to find someone else to entertain you and your substandard understanding of vocabulary.


  63. ralph the wonder llama says:

    TIMMEH!

    By the way, I noticed that this quote:

    You cannot tell me with a straight face tha liberal crybabies in the ACLU would not cry foul if a Christian dominated union decided to override MLK day wiht Billy Martin Day. GET REAL RALPHY.

    displays an acute misperception of what the ACLU actually does.

    You might want to read up on a few of the cases in which the ACLU has actually defended Christians and their right to worship without government interference.


  64. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Wow… what a silly but entertaining screed…

    Tim43 Says:

    “Bull-craap Ralph. Everytime Christians try to do anything…”
    ____________

    Nice, sweeping generalization, Timmy. So broad as to be meaningless. Now, if you’re talking about declaring the Earth to be only 6,000 years old, or that a fertilized human egg is a person… yeah… ya gotta point. The saner percentage of the population doesn’t cotton to that sort of gibberish too well, huh?
    _______________

    You cannot tell me with a straight face tha liberal crybabies in the ACU would not cry foul if a Christian dominated union decided to override MLK day wiht Billy Martin Day. GET REAL RALPHY.
    ________________

    Uh, Timmy, what’s a “liberal crybaby” … again, a vague, meaningless term…

    Hell, Timmy, the ACLU would certainly support your right to say such silly things in public, but can’t guaranatee that anyone w/ half a mind would take you seriously…
    ________________

    Although, christians would never do such a thing, this is simply an example used to parallel what the Muslims attempted to do with Labor day.
    ________________

    Uh… “the Muslims attempted to do w/ labor Day”??? WTF???

    The “muslims” didn’t attempt to do anything to Labor Day. Tyson offered to make the change as part of negotiating a contract that 80% of the Union members agreed to.
    _________________

    Noone would have said a word if the Muslims simply asked for an extra holiday above and beyond Labor day. The problem occured when they attempted to replace Labor day with with their holiday. GET IT RALPH???
    __________________

    Did the Muslims really “attempted to replace Labor Day”? Again, Tyson offered to do so. And it’s only my personal opinion, but yes, I do believe folks like Malkin, and yourself, would have cried bloody murder if Muslims had “simply asked for an extra holiday” and gotten it.
    __________________

    Democracy prevailed. The majority of clear minded people in this country spoke with their wallets. And guess what, Tyson bowed to the democracy. They chose to sell more chicken.
    __________________

    “The majority of clear minded people”… would these be the same folks who want to force the rest of us to believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, Timmy? Or that a fertilized egg is a human being?


  65. MrSquirrel says:

    What? I would have thought the right-wing considered Labor Day a commie holiday anyways.


  66. hussein toasterhead says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    But as far as religion goes… why do liberal organizations like the ACLU continually attack Christian symbols while leaving just about every other religious symbol untouched? For every single instance that you can provide were the ACLU stood against a non-judeo religion I can produce 100 instances were they did. Perhaps I generalized too much but my contention is very clear. Most liberals hate Christianity. They prove it with legal actions constantly being spewed out by the ACLU and liberal activist judges.
    August 9th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    The ACLU has never attacked Christian symbols. I challenge you to find me one case in which the ACLU fought AGAINST religious freedom.


  67. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    “Leninist useful idiots…”

    Wow… ouch… Gee, I’ll prolly die a couple of years earlier for that stinging rebuke…

    Uh, care to define that term… clearly, jes’ so’s the rest of us…

    HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT YOU’RE MUTTERING ABOUT?

    Or would you prefer to remain an incoherent moron???


  68. ralph the wonder llama says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    The ACLU filed suit against a Pittsburgh school district to ban the reference of Adam and Eve in a biology

    If Pee Mav can make a convincing argument explaining exactly why Adam and Eve should be referenced in high school biology, we’ll admit he has a point.

    … I can’t even go on. Pee Mav is too heavily invested in Teh Stupid and I’ve got better things to do than shoot down these November houseflies that make up troll arguments.

    Obviously Pee Mav didn’t bother checking out the link I offered to his li’l buddy Timmeh regarding the ACLU and its “anti-Christian” defense of Christian freedom of religion.


  69. Game of Life says:

    hey troll, I see you are talking to yourself again. Two idiots at the same time is nearly impossible.

    repugs are for “small government” is all bs. chimpy and his chimpettes are alway putting their noses into the peoples trivial business.

    small thinkers


  70. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    pmavrk2 Says:

    The ACLU filed suit against a Pittsburgh school district to ban the reference of Adam and Eve in a biology

    If Pee Mav can make a convincing argument explaining exactly why Adam and Eve should be referenced in high school biology, we’ll admit he has a point.

    … I can’t even go on. Pee Mav is too heavily invested in Teh Stupid and I’ve got better things to do than shoot down these November houseflies that make up troll arguments.

    Obviously Pee Mav didn’t bother checking out the link I offered to his li’l buddy Timmeh regarding the ACLU and its “anti-Christian” defense of Christian freedom of religion.
    __________

    Careful, Ralfie me boyo…

    … or you jes’ might make PeeMav’s poor li’l pointy head ’splode…


  71. Game of Life says:

    p,

    I didn’t read your references because you’re bias and your thought process limited.

    Since these are your references, post the disciplines each were in. I bet your point ends there.

    Where were you when they made Presidents’ Day? They crammed two Presidents into one and made up a date pattern.

    chimpy and mcchimpy are dummies
    The above are your idols (idiots) leaders (linear), war czar(get ‘em fido)

    Admit it, you’re a racist point earner or you’re very loney.


  72. Game of Life says:

    Hey p, name one lie I told.

    cut and paste like you always do and post a link which you don’t do.


  73. Game of Life says:

    p, BUT AGAIN THE ACLU DOES NOTHING ABOUT Millswood Middle School providing a room for Muslims to pray each day.

    That’s really nice of them.


  74. Game of Life says:

    Why do you cite the ACLU? What makes you think ACLU is liberal? you know damn well the ACLU would defend your, “grand poobah” purvis.


  75. Tim43 says:

    Hey hussein toasterhead

    I believe that pmavrk2 met your challenge in spades. It is your turn, hussein.

    Nice work pmavrk2. For those of you who do not know who N.A.M.B.L.A is … North American Man/Boy Love Association . Look it up on google and you will see that vile organization that the ACLU supports.

    In addition to the ACLU supporting that vile organization N.A.M.B.L.A, they also attack the boy scouts nationwide. The ACLU attacks the boy scouts because the scouts would not let a gay scout master into one of the troups back in the 90s.

    Gee, I wonder why. N.A.M.B.L.A — Boy Scouts ??? You do the math.

    So lets reflect … The ACLU supports a sick twisted organization like N.A.M.B.L.A but they sue a good wholesome organization like the boy scouts for not allowing a gay scout master into the scouts. WHAT A NICE ORGAINZATION THAT ACLU IS . Sounds to me that the ACLU has an agenda and it does not include civil liberty for ALL.

    http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/07/26/aclu-hates-boy-scouts-love-hypocrisy/



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