Pressure builds on Boehner to apologize for his violent remarks about Pelosi.
Pressure builds on Boehner to apologize for his violent remarks about Pelosi.
Last week, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) lashed out at Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for her refusal to call Congress back into session and succumb to the GOP’s political stunts on oil drilling. “The American people are gonna hang her,” Boehner told reporters. Rep. George Miller (D-CA) quickly called his comments “offensive, inappropriate and deliberately misleading,” Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA) said they were “unfortunate,” and Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) called on Boehner to apologize. Today, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) joined in:
I was disappointed to hear of Minority Leader Boehner’s inappropriate comments regarding Speaker Pelosi. Republicans are clearly frustrated that the American public is not buying their Johnny-one-note energy policies of the past, but such comments are harmful to a useful debate over our nation’s future. I hope the Minority Leader will apologize for his remarks, and work with Democrats in a bipartisan, constructive manner to increase our domestic oil supply, invest in renewable energy and end our dependence on foreign oil.
Boehner is refusing to back down from his violent rhetoric though, today posting a blog post titled, “Marie Antoinette, the Book Tour.”
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August 11th, 2008 at 2:22 pmOP/P,
Why did you skip the last thread about Veterans and voting? Don’t care about veterans?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:22 pmHi OP1:
August 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pmYou still silly but lame as well
Where was all of this offshore oil drilling concern when the republicans held the majority in both houses? This is nothing but a political stunt before elections. Nothing more then a fabricated crisis created by the oil companies and used by their political buddies in a weak attempt to sway public opinion before the elections. Seriously what else can the republicans talk about? The economy? The wars? Rising inflation? Rising unemployment? Record debt?
Nah…instead they talk about offshore oil drilling and lie about how it would have an immediate impact on gas prices in our country knowing that their braindead supporters believe every lie that they spew from their mouths!
August 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pm“Pressure builds on Boehner…”
Maybe the minority leader should take it to the Men’s Room at the House. I’m sure one of his Republican brethren can help him alleviate all that pressure. They can turn off the lights for another “caucus” in the dark.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:24 pmupside99 Says:
We know why it skipped the last thread. “Neocons support the troops” wouldn’t fly on the last thread.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:24 pmAlthough I will say that Pelosi sucks too!
August 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pmYou guys had better quit being mean to Boner.
You’re going to make him cry.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pmHow about a resignation?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/
August 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pmBe careful! You’re going to make Little Johnny Boehner cry . . . again.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:26 pm“The American people are gonna hang her,”
If that was the case johnny, they’d make you watch while you stood in the long line waiting your turn.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:27 pmOP1 are you crying out for attention?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pmFascinating that Boehner is referring to Nancy Pelosi as “Marie Antoinette” when his own idol is telling Bob Costas that America doesn’t have any problems.
And I see that Boehner is still hyping the amount of “publicity” the GOP’s stunts are getting. I saw some publicity when Congress first adjourned, but I haven’t seen any in awhile. Is this just wishful thinking on Boehner’s part?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pmBoner couldn’t help it. He was just drunk again.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pmOP1…why don’t you f**king grow up you ignorant little cretin. Your little charade has grown quite tiresome. Do you have anything of substance to add to the conversation or are you going to continue with your juvenile, ignorant little comments about Russia? Do you have an opinion on Bush? McCain? Obama? or your sexual desire for small herds of fuzzy farm animals?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says: Nah…instead they talk about offshore oil drilling and lie about how it would have an immediate impact on gas prices in our country knowing that their braindead supporters believe every lie that they spew from their mouths!
No amount of drilling is going to make a country with 3% of the world’s oil but 25% of the world’s oil usage independent.
Even if we lined our coasts and country with oil rigs, we’d still have to import 21% of our oil.
And now they want coal and nuclear energy? NO!
We need clean, green and renewable energy only. Until the Cons start pushing for that, I can’t hear a thing they are saying…
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pmEh, do as the Republicans do.
“The American people are going to kick his bony a$$, and then beat his wife just for the fun of it.” (Hey, if McCain can joke about it, why not everyone else…)
Eh. Doesn’t have the same ring to it: I should have been more misogynistic and use the other word instead of “beat.” And you see, that’s our problem. Republicans have no qualms whatsoever in using violent, vile language to guide their ilk in what they should do, as well as guiding their own actions and thinking.
I wish the Democrats would wake up and realize that this current incarnation of the Republican party needs to be shot, put into a coffin, seal that coffin so it cannot be openned ever again, and then buried so deep in the ground that it will not be discovered for millenia. And they should do everything — even using Republican tactics — to accomplish that.
We’ll deal with the moral implications later, since it seems that Democrats are more capable of realizing they have crossed the line, whereas the amoral Republicans are not.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThemis Says: OP1 has hit a nerve here, as it appears to me that some of the libs on this site are rooting for Russia and its current efforts to re-create the USSR.
Who? Name names. You can’t, because no one is. Stop lying.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pmThe American people will put Barack Obama in the White house because they are tired of the republican party and their corporate puppet masters destroying our country.
Why is lately that whenever we have a republican president some scandal involving money and/or corruption always follows like Watergate with Nixon, Iran/Contra with Bush 41 and now the home mortgage crisis, the Enron scandal, etc, etc…
August 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pmCaption: ‘I still think it was a par, but they accused me of lying on my scorecard.’
August 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pmUmm… because the character you’re playing is deranged?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pm“pipe down haters”
How very first amendment of you. You must support W’s rollback of the bill of rights. It must be nice to know you’ve come to a website that will welcome you and take your arguments seriously.
NOT.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pmTo TripleKick 9…your deep concern is duly noted now STFU and go away concern troll.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pmSo OP1 are you crying out for attention?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pmOP/P’s drugs are kicking in. Just flag it and ignore it.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pmOp1 is just crying. waaaaaaah! like a good neocon.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pm“execute the gOP traitors”
The style and content give you away, Bush supporter. Advocating for your own execution is very Rethuglican of you.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pmTK, still holding at 9, huh?
Well, don’t worry. I’m sure you’ll be promoted a grade soon.
So, are you equating anonymous comments on a blog with public statements by the House Minority Leader, TK?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pmHmmmm Triplekick where was your concern when Mike Huckabee made his comments about Obama at a NRA meeting, or the dumb broad at FUX NOISE who retorted that we should get rid of Bin Laden and Obama… nothing but *chirp*chirp*chirp* from the republicans when these things were said but oh my God if you compare Bush or the FBI tactics to nazism the reichwingers will get their panties in a bunch and scream bloody murder at the outrage.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pmReminder; Republics used obstructionist tactics 18 times this year to vote for recessing the House early.
Now, they’re playing ‘mushroom’, in the dark & eating shit daily.
If only the drop in oil prices matched their drop in credibility…
August 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pmWe shall soon know who is the hanger and who the hangee. Don’t be surprised Boner if suddenly your feet no longer reach the ground.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:44 pmIsn’t threatening a public official with hanging treason?
Trolls?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pmThis tells you how desperate tan man Boner needs his job and attention. I agree with comment # 1. The pic of crybaby Boner boy fits the posting. As far as Pelosi, she is on her own. When you dance to the music [in the case of her taking impeachment off the table], you have to pay to the piper [American people].
August 11th, 2008 at 2:50 pmTripleKick 9 Says:
“ToiletPaper.org’s community should likewise apologize for their plethora of vulgar and violent remarks regarding Republican elected officials, including many death threats posted here regarding our sitting president George Bush and his VP Dick Cheney. TP’s childish administrators are foolish to allow these hateful and illegal comments to begin with. Now that you people are asking Boehner to apologize, TP must also apologize and start to police their trashy site. Otherwise, pipe down haters.”
ESAD, punk.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:50 pmTripleKick 9 Says:
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ToiletPaper.org’s community should likewise apologize for their plethora of vulgar and violent remarks regarding Republican elected officials, including many death threats posted here regarding our sitting president George Bush and his VP Dick Cheney. TP’s childish administrators are foolish to allow these hateful and illegal comments to begin with. Now that you people are asking Boehner to apologize, TP must also apologize and start to police their trashy site. Otherwise, pipe down haters.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
More important to your pansy , cowardly partisan b1tch ass that anonymous comments and those who made them on a political blog referring to the 2 biggest pieces of shit on the planet who are war criminals be taken care of before an elected official threatening another elected official , who also happens to be his constitutionally elected ranking SUPERIOR.
You’re a Chimpy tool and a complete asswipe…………
August 11th, 2008 at 2:53 pmThemis Says:
OP1 has hit a nerve here, as it appears to me that some of the libs on this site are rooting for Russia and its current efforts to re-create the USSR.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
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Point out one comment by any of us that is in any way supportive of Russia or its “efforts to re-create the USSR.”
August 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pmBunny,
You’re so cute when you repeat what your husband tells you. Now run along and make him a sammich.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pmThemis Says:
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Boehner was clearly speaking figuratively.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Was he crying while he said it ?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pmAnd the term “hang” is a figure of speech.
A very, very, poorly chosen one coming from an Elected Public official.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pmBunny, please, talking about production hasn’t lowered prices, people not driving as much because they can’t afford to, has lowered demand which has lowered prices. Duh! If talking about something caused it to happen, then Iraq would be a stable democracy, george bush would be a genius, and john mccain would be a straight talker.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pmAfter a massive smackdown the the “rugged” lagomorph rapidily switches gear…
August 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pmAnd let’s not forget Boner didn’y even stay himself for the stupid stunt he set up — he went golfing. So he’s all bluster & no substance.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pmI bet bunny’s ears are fuzzy, reeeal fuzzy…
August 11th, 2008 at 2:58 pmThey did put up a very nice looking picture of the Iranian Dictator yesterday though.
Yeah, you mean the one where he was making “shadow puppets” on the wall?
Obviously you missed the metaphor there, dipshit.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:58 pmBunny2 Says:
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Boehner is right about Pelosi. The majorty of Americans are fed up with high gas prices and it’s time to do more than claim tire pressure is going to be our saviour. Gas prices have fallen thirty five cents the two weeks because of talking about increased oil production at home. Just talking about it has caused the prices to fall. Imagine what happens when we actually start producing. It doesn’t take much rational thought to understand what is happening. Pelosi is the worst SOTH in the last one hundred years. The worst rated congress in modern history(22%). The San Fran Liberal does not represent the rest of the country, and it’s time for her to go. I bet most of you are pissed because she hasn’t called for Bush’s impeachment.
And the term “hang” is a figure of speech. He didn’t mean it literaly. I’d like to see her hung out to dry.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Does this dopey bim believe the horseshit GOP line that they are responsible for the drop in oil prices because of their grandstanding and idiotic stunt ?
This president and administration is the worst in US history , which stretches over 200 years.
And it’s funny that you 19%’ers believe that the Chimperor-In-Chief not only represents the rest of the country , but that he is the entire country.
He isn’t , nor will he ever be .
Stop turning tricks in the trailer park , lady ; it is obviously turning your already minscule brain matter into runny cream cheese…………
August 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pmThemis Says:
They did put up a very nice looking picture of the Iranian Dictator yesterday though.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
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There’s an Iranian dictator? Who’s that?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pmHeh. Don’t put too much pressure on “Blubberin’ Boner” – or he’ll burst like a water balloon.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pmThemis Says:
No, MC. That is just TP searching the web for the worst pictures they can find of Republicans. They did put up a very nice looking picture of the Iranian Dictator yesterday though.
That is the way he usually looks, and remember, TP doesn’t have to photoshop a picture to make it funny, K?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pmIn my opinion the Bush administration should all be rounded up put on trial and then strung up by their necks from the lamp posts on Pennsylvania Avenue and left to rot as a crude reminder to future presidents who try to annoint themselves as the supreme ruler and lie our country into costly unwinnable wars…does this make me unpatriotic?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pmBobwurst Says:
I bet bunny’s ears are fuzzy, reeeal fuzzy…
Much like its “thinking.”
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pmPeople still think that somehow Boehner or any other GOP pol is going to be held accountable for what they say?
*yawn*
August 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pmThemis Says:
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No, MC. That is just TP searching the web for the worst pictures they can find of Republicans. They did put up a very nice looking picture of the Iranian Dictator yesterday though.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Well , that’s because Mahmoud is more photogenic because he doesn’t cry for no reason , doesn’t toe-tap , doesn’t fondle children , doesn’t use meth or call gay male prostitutes …
August 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pmThere is one true statement in the quoted passage from the bunster:
The San Fran Liberal does not represent the rest of the country
This is absolutely true. The nature of the House of Representatives is that each Congressional district elects its own representative, and these representatives collectively form the House of Representatives. These member vote, according to party, on those they support for leadership positions.
Now the question is, did HunnyBunny know this bit of civics and just get lost in a smoky haze of partisan hatred in the rest of her screed, or did she just get lucky?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:02 pmWelcome to our hypercompetitive, political world, where everything is spun for advantage. Boehner’s predators are particularly adept, especially when they smell the prize.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:02 pmI don’t know, but I bet he’s worser than Hitler even.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:03 pmBunny2 Says:
“You are a pig. Is that what you make your wife do? She must be very proud of you. I bet you cry in bed after she tells you what to do.
A “sammich”?”
Laura?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pmLaura Bush? Is that you?
Bunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pmCouldn’t fight the battle with the twist tie on the bread bag let alone a wet paper bag
It looks like the McCain “Frequent Lyers” are out in spades. Rack up the points and you too can get a pink pair of John McCain flip-flops!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:06 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Welcome to our hypercompetitive, political world, where everything is spun for advantage. Boehner’s predators are particularly adept, especially when they smell the prize.
You clever blogwhore, you!
Linking to someone who links back to you!
The rubes will never get it, eh?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:07 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Now the question is, did HunnyBunny know this bit of civics and just get lost in a smoky haze of partisan hatred in the rest of her screed, or did she just get lucky?
I lean toward the blind squirrel theory.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:07 pmIs Gigi allowed to use “snark”?
Doesn’t one have to demonstrate some intelligence, or at least cleverness, to employ “snark”?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:07 pmTripleKick 9 Says
August 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
TP’s childish administrators are foolish to allow these hateful and illegal comments to begin with. Now that you people are asking Boehner to apologize, TP must also apologize and start to police their trashy site. Otherwise, pipe down haters.
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I believe if you take inventory, you will find there are really very few posters here who actually go so far as to call for lethal violence toward others. But let’s look at them, to examine your point.
Some of the posts here are vulgar. Some are offensive. Some are even downright hateful. But — ILLEGAL? Would you please cite the law that dictates what people may or may not post on blogsites, and examples of posts that violate that law? And when I say LAW, I’m talking about actual legal statutes, not just TP’s TOS.
Now, having said that, the posters here are merely posting here. They are not holding press conferences (like Boehner), they are not running ads full of lies (like McCain), and they are not waving machine guns around onstage during a concert spewing hateful things they would like to do with said gun to certain presidential candidates (like Ted Nugent).
I suggest you clear the mote out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in another’s.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:08 pmThe Greedy Oil Party pandering to the Big Oil companies with tax breaks, and the deregulation of the commodities markets are what drove up the price of gasoline at the pump. The dumbmeisters in the GOP are playing games, lying to the American people because they think we are as dumb as they are. Pelosi has little to do with the price of gas and these losers are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of their constituencies because the all face being defeated in the election for their failure to do any business for the people. The GOP is toast.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:08 pmUm Bunny…drilling offshore will not make an immediate impact on gas prices. You want to blame Pelosi and the democrats for our countries ills? They’ve only been in the majority since 2006, how long did the republicans hold the majority in both houses? What bills did they pass that improved our country or helped we the people? Name one!
Now the republicans are in the minority, they are heading for huge losses in the coming election so they obstruct the senate from getting anything done, they create this offshore oil drilling crisis like it just magically happened and fools like you just eat it up. Where was their concern over this for the past seven years? Oh thats right we were told by the Bushites that gas and oil prices would go down if we went to war….republican voters are such suckers!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:09 pmLividLib Says:
I think Laura prefers the nickname “Pickles.”
August 11th, 2008 at 3:10 pmAs long as the oil companies have their tentacles around our gocvernment we will never see green technologies take off. Look what happened to the electric car. Any invention that eases us off of oil is quickly bought by the oil companies and killed.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:11 pmThemis Says:
Those McCain flip-flops are hard to find. The ObamaNation flip-flops are cheap and in ample supply. A new model comes out at least once a day.
They’re only hard to find if you squeeze your eyes closed really tight and stick your fingers in your ears, goon_golly.
Or shove your own head up your butt, which seems to be your forté.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:12 pmWhat bills did they pass that improved our country or helped we the people? Name one!
The Terry Schaivo Blatant Pander Act, of 2005.
So there, Mr. Smarty Pants!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:12 pmBarfly, I don’t write for rubes in any of my three blogs. (I linked to one of them). Rubes don’t want to continue learning and lack a sense of humor. But they can accumulate “Frequent Lyer” points to beat the band!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:13 pmHi TripleKick9:
August 11th, 2008 at 3:13 pmGlad to see you were able to forestall double digits for a few days. Anyway, I was sort of wondering why you hang around posting at such a ‘trashy” site and through some many incarnations. Thanks in advance for offering your reflections on this strange conflict of interest.
Exactly Kasinca @ 73! The republican voters are being played for fools by their parties leadership. Nothing new here as they always seem to vote against their own best interests unless of course every republican voter is one of the lucky rich 1% in the country.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:14 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says:
They’ve only been in the majority since 2006, how long did the republicans hold the majority in both houses? What bills did they pass that improved our country or helped we the people? Name one!
Wasn’t Obama part of that congress? Is there a significant piece of legislation with his “John Hancock” on it?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:14 pmThemis Says:
Those McCain flip-flops are hard to find. The ObamaNation flip-flops are cheap and in ample supply. A new model comes out at least once a day.
Jebus, Theemie! You must have a whole bunch of permanent lumps on your head from walking into all those walls!!! Yikes.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:15 pmThemis Says:
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No, MC. That is just TP searching the web for the worst pictures they can find of Republicans. They did put up a very nice looking picture of the Iranian Dictator yesterday though.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Well , that’s because Mahmoud is more photogenic because he doesn’t cry for no reason , doesn’t toe-tap , doesn’t fondle children , doesn’t use meth or call gay male prostitutes …
August 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
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That’s obviously because there are no gay males in Iran, right? /snark
August 11th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
What does the amount of gay males in Iran have to do specifically with Mahmoud ?
Lots of gays in the GOP ; does that make Chimpy gay , also ?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:15 pmThemis Says:
So you ran from the veterans thread when confronted on veteran issues.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pmNow we know you don’t give a damn about the troops or veterans you sorry hack.
Thanks for showing how dishonest you neocon freaks are.
Wasn’t Obama part of that congress? Is there a significant piece of legislation with his “John Hancock” on it?
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August 11th, 2008 at 3:18 pmI think someone is struggling with the concept of majority status. Stop flailing about
Themis Says:
Those McCain flip-flops are hard to find.
He was against torture before he was for it
He was against invading iraq before he was for it
He was against offshore drilling before he was for it
He was against tax breaks for the rich before he was for them
He was against family values before he was for them
To name a few…
August 11th, 2008 at 3:18 pmBunny2 Says:
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You have women issues MC? Turning tricks in trailer parks? We don’t agree and this is what you have to offer? Are there any NOW members out there?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Do I have issues with “women” ? No
Just certain females ; they are not one and the same.
Who gives a shit on what you want or care about ?
And do you believe that NOW would have more of a problem with me , or a female who supports a moronic doddering old man who is absolutely opposed to a woman’s right to choose and is a sexist piece of crap ?
Nice to see your name matches your 1950’s GOP mindset ……
You’d probably insist McCarthy be voted in as president if he were still around………….
August 11th, 2008 at 3:19 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Wasn’t Obama part of that congress? Is there a significant piece of legislation with his “John Hancock” on it?
You can’t do any better than that?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pmdbadass Says:
I think someone is struggling with the concept of majority status. Stop flailing about
Really??? because he’s (Obama) been part of that “majority status” for about 2 years now, caould you please enlighten us “trolls” with his leadership status qualifications and let us know what significant piece of legislation he’s been a part of?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pmThemis Says:
Those McCain flip-flops are hard to find. The ObamaNation flip-flops are cheap and in ample supply. A new model comes out at least once a day.
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That is because the biased corporate owned reichwing MSM
never reports McCains mounting flip flops because he might snap and go apeshit on them, while all the corproate reichwing MSM does is spend hour after hour pointing out possible negatives about Barack Obama.
In conclusion I don’t think Barack is the perfect candidate BUT it has become quite clear that his stance on eliminating the tax cuts for the rich has gotten the corporate world and the wealthy media talkingheads worried about their $$$ which is why they continue their 24/7 assaults on Barack Obama while handling Grandpa McCuckoo with kid gloves.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Barfly, I don’t write for rubes in any of my three blogs.
I was referring to TP’ers. The reason I commented is because TP used the same tactic today, by linking to a Joe Klein article, which linked back to Yglesias’ new perch, here at TP.
Sorry about the blogwhore comment.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:23 pmBunny2 Says:
“Why should Boehner apoligize? Kennedy never apoligized.”
You should “apoligize” for your spelling.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:23 pmI would strongly suggest that if your children are mature enough for the responsibility of driving they are mature enough to earn their own gas money. If we had invested in alternative technology years ago in a committed “moon landing” type way you would have to be whining about gas prices. I think your kids will probably grow to have a more sophisticated worldview.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:24 pmBunny2 Says:
“MC, you are as dumd a man as I have ever heard. Mc Carthy would have loved you, long time, and I bet you would have loved him for it.”
Pot, meet kettle.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:28 pmBunny2 Says:
MC, you are as dumd a man as I have ever heard.
Rule # 1 of Internet posting: never criticize another without first checking the spelling of your own post.
Is it really that hard to do?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:28 pmYou can’t fake this stuff.
Although Twajie tries his hardest.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmLeadership qualifications of Barack Obama:
1-Very well educated.
2-Listens to those whose opinions may be different then his own.
3-Life experiences that allows him to understand the plight of the poor and middleclass, not just the rich.
4-Believes in the importance of diplomacy.
5-Good temperment to be the leader of a nation.
6-Has world wide appeal that will help repair the damage done to our countries reputation over the past eight years.
7-Knows the importance of hard work from his youth, wasn’t handed everything to him on a silver platter.
As for Obama passing meaningful legislation…why is that so important? If I remember correctly the President does not pass legislation he approves and signs off on bills. Duh!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmANSWER: Your Highness Nancy (mussolini in a skirt) Pelosi knows that many democrats will break ranks with her. A comprehensive energy bill would easily get past and her environmental terrorist constituents would be enraged.
That’s interesting. Can you post an authoritative breakdown, to bolster your argument?
Take your time, we’ll wait.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmBunny2 Says:
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MC, you are as dumd a man as I have ever heard. Mc Carthy would have loved you, long time, and I bet you would have loved him for it.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
How can you “hear” over an internet blogging site ?
And what’s “dumd” ? GOP’s retarded code for something ?
McCarthy was an anti-American tool ; quite similar to Chimpy and Co and their moronic backers like yourself.
Nice to see you’re another typical GOP stooge who takes pride in her ignorance and stupidity.
It’s those like yourself who set women back 100 years……You’re the needy , dopey type who probably believes that men truly are superior to women , and who shuts her stupid mouth because your equally idiotic old man tells you to.
Congrats , you moron.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:31 pmBarfly, no harm. If I had ads on my blogs, the comment would have been spot on.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pmANSWER: Your Highness Nancy (mussolini in a skirt) Pelosi knows that many democrats will break ranks with her. A comprehensive energy bill would easily get past and her environmental terrorist constituents would be enraged.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:33 pm“““““““““““““““““““““
LMAO!!!!! A troll comparing Pelosi to Mussolini a known fascist while the republican party is doing the bidding for the oil companies who own them….can you smell the irony? :)
There is a bi-partisan Gang of 10 energy proposal that likely will get serious attention when Congress reconvenes after the two conventions.
The Republican “Ship of Oil Tools” Tour on the House floor will continue. Political theater at its most bizarre.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmJust shoot me if I ever do that again.
We’ll take that figuratively, as well – although, you do a competent enough job of hitting your own foot, without any help from us.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmBunny2 Says:
MC, you are as dumd a man as I have ever heard.
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August 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmI think some ridiculous fake money grubber with no real agenda but a radio show claimed that dyslexia was imaginary and just the result of being a spolied brat kid. I am sorry. Obviously, it is your parents lack of parenting skills which caused this problem.
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Okay… as a “troll” I can definitely agree with 1-4, though 2 is a little iffy… Listening to and learning from other people are 2 different things. But I’ll grant that it’s better than Bush ever did.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:42 pm6 is also a matter of opinion, I’m sure that much of the world will settle for anything that is not BUSH at this point, especially with McCain’s history in a war. I’m sure you’ll agree that most combat vets would be far more reluctant to start a war than one who has not been there.
7 is also an opinion hardly backed up by fact, I will again assure you that there are plenty of conservatives who have had to work for everything they have and value hard work and dedication.
And the reason I asked the “meaningful legislation” question is because that was his job for the last four years. Ilinois voters elected him to represent them in the US senate, thereby legislating works that will benefit Illinois and the country in general. If McCain is constantly villified for his record, I think Obama should be held to the same standard, wouldn’t you?
John Boehner , playing golf , while claiming his fellow idiotic GOP brethren are “doing the right thing” with their grandstanding while conducting their “Camp out for oil” sleep-over , believes he has any credibility whatsoever ?
The reason that Congress has a 22% approval rating ? (pay attention , Bunnyslippers)
The GOP’s approval rating in Congress is 17 %………
August 11th, 2008 at 3:44 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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Okay… as a “troll” I can definitely agree with 1-4, though 2 is a little iffy… Listening to and learning from other people are 2 different things. But I’ll grant that it’s better than Bush ever did.
6 is also a matter of opinion, I’m sure that much of the world will settle for anything that is not BUSH at this point, especially with McCain’s history in a war. I’m sure you’ll agree that most combat vets would be far more reluctant to start a war than one who has not been there.
7 is also an opinion hardly backed up by fact, I will again assure you that there are plenty of conservatives who have had to work for everything they have and value hard work and dedication.
And the reason I asked the “meaningful legislation” question is because that was his job for the last four years. Ilinois voters elected him to represent them in the US senate, thereby legislating works that will benefit Illinois and the country in general. If McCain is constantly villified for his record, I think Obama should be held to the same standard, wouldn’t you?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Ummm , yeah
But how do you jutify wasting over a quarter of a century of time and taxpayer $’s on a do-nothing , din-witted loser ?
Hard to compare 4 years of not much , to 25 years of absolute uselessness……..
August 11th, 2008 at 3:47 pmBunny2 Says:
You want to know what “dumb” is. This my first day of posting.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
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With this screen name, maybe.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pmBunny2 Says:
You want to know what “dumb” is, the name Bunny2. MC, have referred to me as being a woman.
You’re not smart enough or strong enough to be a Woman, you are just a paid little loser troll, and trolls don’t have sex, hence they have no sex organs.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pmMCMetal Says:
But how do you jutify wasting over a quarter of a century of time and taxpayer $’s on a do-nothing , din-witted loser ?
Justify??? I’m trying, simply, to not waste my vote the way I did four years ago. I’m looking for a reason to vote differently (hence the reason I’m on a liberal website). I see John McCain has voted for some things that may or may not make perfect sense, but he is the guy who has befriended the democrats and voted “their way” more times than Joe Lieberman. Regardless of his politics, we are talking about a military combat hero… A man, who at the very least, has a record to run on. I can only vote for Barrack based on what he said in his 2 books (yes, I read them both thanks). Believe me, I’d love to vote for him but it’s kinda like saying I’m voting for Kool-aid over Mike’s Hard Lemonade. I know what I’m getting with Kool-aid because I drank it plenty of times as a kid… As for Mike’s Hard… Never had it so I can’t say which is better. Get my drift here?
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You want to know what “dumb” is. This my first day of posting. I have not said if I was a man or woman. I use the name Bunny2 for fun and I knew the reponse I would get. And yet some you, like MC, have referred to me as being a woman. How stupid are you? We shall see…..
August 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Yes , it is the truly intelligent and masculine that names themself “Bunny” to imply they are male ……..
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Bunny,
You’re so cute when you repeat what your husband tells you. Now run along and make him a sammich.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
You are a pig. Is that what you make your wife do? She must be very proud of you. I bet you cry in bed after she tells you what to do.
A “sammich”?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Where in the above do you claim to not be a woman , you dimwit ?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:01 pmHi Bunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pmWelcome to your “first day”. I see you learned a valuable lesson what with that stupid pretend tough guy and the wet paper bag shit. Sorry you got your ass kicked so totally and quickly. Seems sort of rude to walk into a place and start being insulting don’t you think?
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But how do you jutify wasting over a quarter of a century of time and taxpayer $’s on a do-nothing , din-witted loser ?
Justify??? I’m trying, simply, to not waste my vote the way I did four years ago. I’m looking for a reason to vote differently (hence the reason I’m on a liberal website). I see John McCain has voted for some things that may or may not make perfect sense, but he is the guy who has befriended the democrats and voted “their way” more times than Joe Lieberman. Regardless of his politics, we are talking about a military combat hero… A man, who at the very least, has a record to run on. I can only vote for Barrack based on what he said in his 2 books (yes, I read them both thanks). Believe me, I’d love to vote for him but it’s kinda like saying I’m voting for Kool-aid over Mike’s Hard Lemonade. I know what I’m getting with Kool-aid because I drank it plenty of times as a kid… As for Mike’s Hard… Never had it so I can’t say which is better. Get my drift here?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I’m sorry , man , but surviving time in a prison camp makes one a “survivor” , not a “hero”.
The man was a shitty pilot , and he has the gall and arrogance to claim he “knows how to win wars” ; how come he didn’t win the one he participated in ?
He has no tangible record to run on , no matter how often anyone wants to claim he does.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:04 pmI think Sen. Craig (R-MN airport bathroom) uses the name “Bunny2″ for fun, as well.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:04 pmpmavrk2 Says:
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Amen Bunny2…
Here is a quote from Your Highness Nancy (mussolini in a skirt) Pelosi “I’m not giving the gavel away to a tactic … that supports the oil (companies)…
In other words, the average workaday American can expect no relief from this beholden-to-the-environmentalists Congress. What about the people that you supposedly serve Nancy? We are not simply talking about the oil companies.
DOES THIS SOUND DEMOCRATIC TO YOU LIBERALS???
AGAIN I ASK, WHY WON’T SHE LET THE PEOPLE VOTE???
ANSWER: Because she is a scared little liberal that knows she will lose.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
When has the Chimpy administration allowed us to vote on staying in Iraq , leaking an undercover CIA agent’s identity , allowing torture , spying on fellow Americans and a whole host of other topics you GOP tool ?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pmLet’s not forget that while becoming a “war hero” he signed a confession which we are supposed to believe was coerced through torture while being told simultaneously that torture works… WTF?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pmBunny2 Says:
Boehner is right about Pelosi. The majorty of Americans are fed up with high gas prices and it’s time to do more than claim tire pressure is going to be our saviour. Gas prices have fallen thirty five cents the two weeks because of talking about increased oil production at home.
OMG, we have another extremely stupid troll… Where are they coming from.
Sorry cupcake, the price of oil has been dropping for over a month, not two weeks, and it is dropping because our consumption has fallen. It always works that way. They jack up the price of gas, we start driving less and then they lower the price of gas to get us to buy more.
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Bucky, you have been deballed by the likes of Pelosi. And its effects are laughable on the likes of you.
Drill now is what the vast majority of Americans want and will show in the November elections. This so called “game” the republicans are playing is very effective.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
“Effective” on whom ?
The information lacking/challenged , who are already solidly behind the horseshit GOP ?
Enjoy political oblivion you GOP stooge………..
August 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pmOh my… this is just a waist of time! Pelosi lost any respect she had when she took IMPEACHMENT off the table. John Boehner comments are just signs of a desperate party that knows very well they will lose big on next election. They will lose big because ordinary people don’t like WARs based on lies. People don’t support WAR CRIMES! Ordinary people prefer the respect for the Rule of Law, which they must abide. So when they see a criminal administration pardoning themselves, excusing them selves for future prossecution for War Crimes, pardoning Telecomunications companies that infringed on their rights of privacy, When they see an administration hiding their seedy dealings behind close doors and hiding themselves behind ‘classifying information’ excuse, when they see this criminals not unsering questions about 9/11 under oath and with transparancy, when they don’t see the footage of a 757 hiting the Pentagon, when they know the great bulk of the hard earned taxes going to the military complex instead to social enterprise, when they see their jobs going together with the economy, when they have to pay more money for petrol, They get fed up! They are also fed up with a weak bunch of wimps, elected by the people to make significant change, selling them short by taking the IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS of these WAR CRIMINALS. They had enough! The term “Hang” can be applyed to Pelosi as well as to those who also fail the people, who fail the Constitution, who fail the USA.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pmMCMetal Says:
I’m sorry , man , but surviving time in a prison camp makes one a “survivor” , not a “hero”.
Of course surviving a cam p makes you a survivor, but to the guys had leave ahead of him, I’d say he’s a hero. It’s called character building. What in Obama’s character even compares? How would Obama know how to conduct a war? From watching it on t.v.? From reading about it in history books @ Columbia Law School? Maybe he got his military training at Occidental college? I’m not defending McCain’s abilities as a pilot, but 4 years ago you guys tried to sell me on how important military service was…???
August 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pmBoner is trying to get his oil buddies the best price on the off-shore leases before the impending Democratic Congressional landslide. Right now the oilies have enough leases on US land the size of Colorado. If they hadn’t spent 80% of the profits the past year buying back stock, maybe there’d be cash left over for drilling. If Pelosi gets her way, the GOP will have their bluff called when Congress comes back from their summer break. And the right wing chatter will make some other nonsense up for the MSM to chase after.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:11 pmBilbo – sorry, but I think you are wasting your time – Bunny’s husband hasn’t started teaching her about supply and demand yet.
And he’s STILL waiting for his sammich.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmBunny2 Says:
Drill now is what the vast majority of Americans want and will show in the November elections. This so called “game” the republicans are playing is very effective.
Sorry cupcake, 65% is not a “vast” majority and that majority was not agreeing to “only drilling”. The question that was asked is do you think we should drill off-shore as part of a comprehensive package of energy proposals.
I’m quite sure if a poll was taken where they asked “Do you think that drilling for oil will solve our energy crisis and lower the price of oil”, the same 65% would say “hell no”.
I don’t think their little theatrics are going to accomplish anything other than to show what a bunch of fools they are. People in this country are smart enough to realize that we need to find a way to cut our dependence on a finite resource, Oil, and to find a way to get our energy from renewable resources.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmI meant:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmselling them short by NOT taking up the IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS of these WAR CRIMINALS!
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I’m sorry , man , but surviving time in a prison camp makes one a “survivor” , not a “hero”.
Of course surviving a cam p makes you a survivor, but to the guys had leave ahead of him, I’d say he’s a hero. It’s called character building. What in Obama’s character even compares? How would Obama know how to conduct a war? From watching it on t.v.? From reading about it in history books @ Columbia Law School? Maybe he got his military training at Occidental college? I’m not defending McCain’s abilities as a pilot, but 4 years ago you guys tried to sell me on how important military service was…???
August 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
How exactly does being a shitty pilot and a prisoner for 5 years make one capable in conducting a war ?
They gave McDepends a special course in Sun Tzu because he’s so affable ?
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We want OUT OF WAR , not more of it.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pmBunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pmWhat with it being your “first day” and all… A male lagomorph is referred to as a buck. You may wanna do a little research first as you mature here.
… And where is the WAR CRIMINAL RICE????!!!!! She is trying to stay out of the radar after the revelations of secreet meeting at the WH, on the USA’s TORTURE PROGRAM! Where is that WAR CRIMINAL! That is much more important than what John Boehner said about Pelosi!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:17 pmNah, Pee Mav, we’re cool.
If we expected anything out of you, maybe an apology would be in order, but you get a pass because of the incredibly low bar you set for yourself in terms of worthwhile contribution to these discussions.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:17 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Of course surviving a cam p makes you a survivor, but to the guys had leave ahead of him, I’d say he’s a hero. It’s called character building. What in Obama’s character even compares? How would Obama know how to conduct a war?
I’m thinking that Obama won’t have to know how to conduct a war because he’s not stupid enough to get into an unnecessary war. The only thing that McBush knows about conducting a war is how to drop bombs on villages and kill innocent women and children.
If knowing how to conduct a war is a qualification for President, then why was George Bush qualified to be President? He certainly had no idea in the world how to conduct a war, but he did it anyway, choosing a vanity war against a nation that was no threat to us.
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You want to know what “dumb” is. This my first day of posting. I have not said if I was a man or woman. I use the name Bunny2 for fun and I knew the reponse I would get. And yet some you, like MC, have referred to me as being a woman. How stupid are you? We shall see…..
August 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Yes , it is the truly intelligent and masculine that names themself “Bunny” to imply they are male ……..
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I guess there are no male bunnies in MC Metal land.
You ststed this above-
Stop turning tricks in the trailer park , lady ; it is obviously turning your already minscule brain matter into runny cream cheese…………
August 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pm Recommend
You referred to me as “lady”. Idiot!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Moron , so did robbez_92107 , and you did not claim that you were NOT a woman , you stupid dipshit.
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Bunny,
You’re so cute when you repeat what your husband tells you. Now run along and make him a sammich.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
You are a pig. Is that what you make your wife do? She must be very proud of you. I bet you cry in bed after she tells you what to do.
A “sammich”?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Jesus , you GOP/Chimpy nut huggers are so mentally incompetent
August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pmMCMetal Says:
How exactly does being a shitty pilot and a prisoner for 5 years make one capable in conducting a war ?
Okay, I’m not saying it makes him qualified… You are just reiterating my arguement from 4 years ago. I asked you nice folks here on TP why combat service matters. I got diatribe after diatribe of how those who have been to war appreciate war and would be the first to get us out and tha last to take us in.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pmMy question to you is can you personally guarantee that there will be NO more wars with Obama in office?
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McSame is a war ace – he’s responsible for downing five airplanes.
What do you mean that they were US planes?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:19 pmDoes that make him a Viet Cong flying ace, then?
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August 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pmThat is a ridiculous question.
Gawd, this current bunch of trolls is the sorriest bunch ever sent out. The RNC must be scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pmBunny – repukes have been deballed by the likes of Pelosi….
When did I mention anything about oil or Pelosi? I only stated that you are a sexless freak.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pmBunny2 Says:
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When has the Chimpy administration allowed us to vote on staying in Iraq , leaking an undercover CIA agent’s identity , allowing torture , spying on fellow Americans and a whole host of other topics you GOP tool ?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Through your elected officials, that’s how. Who keeps giving him more money to fund Iraq? Congress! Who is allowing him to to spy on fellow Americans? Congress! Take it up with them. They are the ones who are allowing this to go on by keeping impeachment off the table. And the funniest thing is, they control the house and senate.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
A 2/3rds vote is needed in Senate for impeachment ; believe there are 16 or so horseshit GOP Senators with the guts and brains to finally call this criminal administration for what it is ?
About as likely as you realizing what a dope you truly are………
August 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pmBuckie – have you given up the Grampy Abe Simpson McSame comedy?
I could use a good laugh – peanut butter and rocks sammiches or maybe a cardboard box oven or cutting the lawn with a straight razor – anything. I’m jonesing.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pmdbadass Says:
#145
That is a ridiculous question.
You know what… it may be a ridiculous question. I hope it’s completely irrelevant. But there’s something fishy about how many times Obama has mentioned Pakistan in his speeches and debates. He sounds a lot like W. when he spoke of “the axis of evil”.
Truth be told, I’ll probably vote for the man because I too want change (yes you can write this down as the day a conservative finally agreed with a liberal). But like I said, I really really want to avoid the same mistake I made 4 years ago. By the time the next president’s term is up, my oldest son will be of draft age. And like I said too, those who have been to war, are usually the last to want others to go into one.
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How exactly does being a shitty pilot and a prisoner for 5 years make one capable in conducting a war ?
Okay, I’m not saying it makes him qualified… You are just reiterating my arguement from 4 years ago. I asked you nice folks here on TP why combat service matters. I got diatribe after diatribe of how those who have been to war appreciate war and would be the first to get us out and tha last to take us in.
My question to you is can you personally guarantee that there will be NO more wars with Obama in office?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Ummm , why do I have to personally guarantee you that ?
I’m not Obama , anyway ……………
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That is a ridiculous question.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
No it’s not. When Kerry was running, all we heard from him was, “I was in Vietnam. I understand war and what it means to send our sons and daughters to war!”. I guess only democrat war heros are allowed to become president. Was Kerry a good canidate because of his war record? That’s what we were told four years ago. And now it’s irrelevant? BS!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Where does anyone claim it’s “irrelevant” ?
The only thing I’ve stated is that McDepends’ war record is HORRIBLE ; because it simply is ………..
August 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pmrobbez_92107 Says:
Buckie – have you given up the Grampy Abe Simpson McSame comedy?
No, I was on vacation for 2 weeks and was trying to stay away from anything political as possible.
Grampy McSame will be doing more.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pmBoner’s life is being made into a feature film :
The Crying Game
August 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pmMCMetal Says:
The only thing I’ve stated is that McDepends’ war record is HORRIBLE ; because it simply is ………..
What war did you serve in? It simply stands to reason that those who can comment on someone’s war record obviously has a common frame of reference to compare to right? IF you have not been to war, how would you know what is a good or bad war record.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pmBunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pmWhat are you talking about? Asking anyone to assure future events of which they have no control makes no sense unless perhaps you believe in clairvoyence. The poster themself seems to see my point. If you have a point which I am beginning to doubt it seems to be that you just dislike democrats. What you posted regarding Mr Kerry has nothing to do with the issue being discussed
Bunny2 Says
August 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Drill now is what the vast majority of Americans want and will show in the November elections. This so called “game” the republicans are playing is very effective.
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Effective for now. It won’t take that many advertising dollars to educate Americans of the following:
1. Drilling now will NOT lower gasoline prices now. Granting the leases the oil companies want result in any petroleum coming out of the ground right away, even if they marshalled all their resources to that objective.
2. The oil companies already have millions of acres of land they hold leases on. If it’s so all-fired urgent to drill, don’t you think they would be drilling on this land? If there isn’t any oil on this land, then why are they hanging onto the leases? PROFIT. The oil companies will only drill when and where they will get the most profit from doing so. They really don’t care about increasing the petroleum supply, and they certainly don’t care about lowering the cost of gasoline. There’s no money in that for them.
3. Just because the oil companies acquire leases for offshore or ANWR drilling doesn’t mean they are going to drill. See explanation in point #2. They primarily want these lands to keep others from getting them. It’s just a land grab, and they using sky-high gas prices to sucker the public into supporting it.
4. Because oil is a global commodity, there’s no guarantee that any oil drilled out of these new lease areas will be used to give any relief at the pump. This oil will go to whomever can and will pay the most for it, which means it’s just as likely to go to China as to come here. Now, if they drill A WHOLE LOT out of these areas, it’s possible to increase the world supply enough to lower prices worldwide. However, if that happens, look for OPEC to put the brakes on to maintain the status quo.
Right now, the American public is buying the idea that more oil will mean lower prices, and the way to get more oil is to do more drilling. And if it really worked that way, I’d be in favor of it, too. Once Americans realize that giving the oil companies the sun, moon, and the stars will not make their fill-ups cheaper, expect support for the “drill here, drill now” concept to drop. A majority of Americans may be ignorant now, but that can and will change.
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When has the Chimpy administration allowed us to vote on staying in Iraq , leaking an undercover CIA agent’s identity , allowing torture , spying on fellow Americans and a whole host of other topics you GOP tool ?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Through your elected officials, that’s how. Who keeps giving him more money to fund Iraq? Congress! Who is allowing him to to spy on fellow Americans? Congress! Take it up with them. They are the ones who are allowing this to go on by keeping impeachment off the table. And the funniest thing is, they control the house and senate.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
A 2/3rds vote is needed in Senate for impeachment ; believe there are 16 or so horseshit GOP Senators with the guts and brains to finally call this criminal administration for what it is ?
About as likely as you realizing what a dope you truly are………
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They could still take away any credibillity he has left by bringing up impeachment charges. And they can also stop funding the war in Iraq, right? The dems do have the majority in the house don’t they? STOP funding the Iraq war if you want it to end! You don’t need a 2/3’s majority to do that!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Because dopes like yourself possess or understand what “credibility” is , right turdburglar ?
That why you blindly and stupidly support the most dishonest and worst president in US history , regardless of all the evidence to the contrary ?
BTW
We will be getting out of Iraq after the November election ; President Obama will see to that……….
August 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
But there’s something fishy about how many times Obama has mentioned Pakistan in his speeches and debates. He sounds a lot like W. when he spoke of “the axis of evil”.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
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Yeah, that is fishy. I can’t imagine why Obama would be talking about Pakistan so much. I mean, it’s only the current home of al-Qa’ida and the base of operations for the Taliban, in addition to being a nuclear-armed state of over 100 million people from a dozen different ethno-linguistic groups that’s one coup away from complete anarchy.
Why on Earth would Obama be talking about Pakistan?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:35 pmWe’re all prisoners of war.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:35 pmSTOP funding the Iraq war if you want it to end! You don’t need a 2/3’s majority to do that!
Since any spending bill would have to be approved by the Senate, well, you’re wrong.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pmpmavrk2 Says:
Did you and your sock puppet Hussein Toasterhead ever get a chance to read all of the proof about the ACLU that I poated on the other board?
Real nice (Anti-Christian) organization that ACLU, now isn’t it?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
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Nope – you’re gonna have to post it again. You have no proof that the ACLU is anti-Christian.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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The only thing I’ve stated is that McDepends’ war record is HORRIBLE ; because it simply is ………..
What war did you serve in? It simply stands to reason that those who can comment on someone’s war record obviously has a common frame of reference to compare to right? IF you have not been to war, how would you know what is a good or bad war record.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Do you need to be a Major League Baseball player to understand and/or comment that a .220 batting average is poor ?
Or someone in law enforcement or the judicial system to claim that an unarmed suspect shot 17 times is excessive ?
Or a former president to say that ignoring a Presidential Daily Briefing that states that al Qaeda/Bin Laden are determined to attack the US soon is incompetence and stupidity on an extreme level ?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
Why on Earth would Obama be talking about Pakistan?
Well… since the precedent has been set for pre-emptively invading a sovereign nation, I guess we conservatives should just sit idly by as the Democrats get their turn to invade their country of choice? I suppose there’s an undercover CIA agent that has written about Pakistans search for yellowcake???
August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pmFunny, House members say they’ll continue their protest every day until they reconvene September 8th. Why then, could I not find any information about their protests over the weekend? CSPAN has their press conference from Friday, but nothing for Saturday or Sunday.
I just watched this morning’s tape and saw my Congressman in the background. Rep. Mike Conaway ranked #1 in supporting big oil out of 435 members. They didn’t let him take the microphone this morning, but maybe soon he can inform the American public of the heroic deeds he undertook to earn that distinguished position.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pmBunny2 Says
August 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
STOP funding the Iraq war if you want it to end! You don’t need a 2/3’s majority to do that!
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Actually, you do, because that’s the number one needs to override a veto.
Nobody wants the war to end except in a responsible manner. Cutting off funds overnight before we get our troops out will only hurt the troops, and nobody wants to do that. Therefore, SOME funding bills need to be passed, and as we have seen happen, they will be vetoed if any conditions of timetables or withdrawals are attached.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pmI guess we conservatives should just sit idly by as the Democrats get their turn to invade their country of choice?
Well, you can’t criticize it, without looking like a hypocrite, but that’s never stopped you guys before…
August 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmstateofthedivision Says
August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Funny, House members say they’ll continue their protest every day until they reconvene September 8th. Why then, could I not find any information about their protests over the weekend? CSPAN has their press conference from Friday, but nothing for Saturday or Sunday.
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I dunno — maybe all this “publicity” that Boehner says they’re getting is “secret stealth” publicity. You can only find it on Boehner’s blog.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pmBunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:43 pmHow do you feel about McCain’s confession. Was that heroic? I think it was tragic that any person would be treated so poorly by an enemy. I do not support Mr McCain but I feel bad that he experienced torture. That is why I think that anyone who supports torturing the “terrorists” is subhuman.
phantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Well… since the precedent has been set for pre-emptively invading a sovereign nation, I guess we conservatives should just sit idly by as the Democrats get their turn to invade their country of choice? I suppose there’s an undercover CIA agent that has written about Pakistans search for yellowcake???
August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
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Um, why would Pakistanis need to search for yellowcake? They have plutonium, dumbass!
Now, what proof do you have of Obama threatening to invade Pakistan?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pmBunny2 Says:
Say it to his face and you might have some credibillity to your attacks. He has town hall meetings set up from here to election time!
I think it was DieNowForPeace, McMetal, and myself who argued many of the same things last friday. You’ll find that they (those 2) cannot put their money where their collective mouths are. Since the 2 of them ridicule others service quite often when they’ve never set a foot into a recruiters office. It’s much easier to sit on the sidelines complaining about the running of a play, than actually getting out of your Lazy-Boy and running a route. (just had to add the football reference for McMetal who went all baseball on me a few posts ago).
August 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pmDidn’t the Democratic congress try to bring up legislation to drop the price of oil only to have the obstructionist Republics block it?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pmWhy don’t I see anybody talking about that?
And what exactly did John McCain do to make him a war hero?
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When you get a chance, I’d like to hear what your sock puppet comes up with in response to my challenge on that board.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
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Ok – I checked out your World Net Daily links. Saw nothing anti-Christian in any of the freedom-of-religion cases taken up by the ACLU.
Sorry about your argument!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pmsdunes:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:48 pmApparently signing a confessional makes you a hero.
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Um, why would Pakistanis need to search for yellowcake? They have plutonium, dumbass!
Thanks Captain Obvious!!!! What would we do without you? The post you’re referencing was meant to be ironic. I didn’t know that irony was too advanced of a form of humor for poopyheads like you.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmBunny2 Says:
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Hey MC:
Mc Cains war record was horrible? Not to many had a great war record during that war if I remember correctly. He stayed in prison and was beaten rathen than leave some of his men behind. That’s a hero! So what if he got shot down. That’s part of being a pilot isn’t it? He was brave enough to serve and take the chance of dying knowing any day he could die protecting the interest of our country. To downplay it is simply playing partisan politics. I bet you wouldn’t tell him to his face that his war record is “horrible” MCMetal. Or that his service in Vietnam means nothing. Or that he is insane for that matter. Would make fun of him to his face that he is just an old man who is Mc Insane? Would you make fun his scar like you have done in here in the past? Say it to his face and you might have some credibillity to your attacks. He has town hall meetings set up from here to election time!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
His confession was quite “heroic” , wasn’t it ?
And there are those who contend he wasn’t tortured at all.
And he had family pressure to stay in the military , even though he was a horseshit pilot ; sure people get shot down as pilots.
But smashing 5 planes is unfathomable .
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There is no doubt in my mind that I’d tell him to his wrinkled , Frankenstein face that he’s a total piece of shit and a coward.
Mr “Tough Guy” who will take a stand and make it last “forever” is just as cowardly as those he claimed tortured him , after he now claims he’s all for torture………..
August 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Thanks Captain Obvious!!!! What would we do without you? The post you’re referencing was meant to be ironic. I didn’t know that irony was too advanced of a form of humor for poopyheads like you.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
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Thank you for admitting that you have no basis whatsoever for your claims that Obama is going to invade Pakistan. Your moronity has been confirmed.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:52 pmThe only thing more hypocritical than Bushco complaining about what dems have done to oil prices is trolls (who rarely stray anywhere near a topic, reason, maturity, intelligence, relevance, civility, humor or respect) complaining about the moderation of TP comments.
DIAF trolls!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:52 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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Say it to his face and you might have some credibillity to your attacks. He has town hall meetings set up from here to election time!
I think it was DieNowForPeace, McMetal, and myself who argued many of the same things last friday. You’ll find that they (those 2) cannot put their money where their collective mouths are. Since the 2 of them ridicule others service quite often when they’ve never set a foot into a recruiters office. It’s much easier to sit on the sidelines complaining about the running of a play, than actually getting out of your Lazy-Boy and running a route. (just had to add the football reference for McMetal who went all baseball on me a few posts ago).
August 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Oh , when you lied about being ex-military ?
That what you consider “putting your money” where your stupid mouth is ?
What you lyingly claim is “ridicule” is simply the truth ; those like yourselves (a pair of GOP stooges) , want to deify someone who is nowhere near what you want to make them out to be.
Do not feel badly about a nation without heroes (especially fabricated ones) ; pity the nation that so desperately needs them …………..
August 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
Thank you for admitting that you have no basis whatsoever for your claims that Obama is going to invade Pakistan. Your moronity has been confirmed.
You must work for the DMV… only they could be so by the book, without a sense of humor. I guess that would at least be one liberal (if they actually claim you as one of their own) with a job. If you could actually READ WORDS, I said that I got the same feeling I got from Bush’d “axis of evil” as I did from Obama’s references to Pakistan. But thanks for being so literal and not liberal.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:57 pmBunny2:
August 11th, 2008 at 4:57 pmSo I assume that you do not support torturing the enemies of the US as clearly they will just say what they think we want to hear. Correct?
“Only because some of you disagree with his politics do you attack his service and sacrifice!”
Ala your respect for Mr. Kerry’s service?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says
August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Well… since the precedent has been set for pre-emptively invading a sovereign nation, I guess we conservatives should just sit idly by as the Democrats get their turn to invade their country of choice? I suppose there’s an undercover CIA agent that has written about Pakistans search for yellowcake???
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Nope — Pakistan already has nukes, so I doubt a search for yellowcake would raise too many eyebrows.
You should know, however, there is a BIG difference between invading a nation with the objective of changing the regime there and making specific targeted attacks on terrorist camps. Obama has never said he would invade Pakistan in the way that we have done in Iraq. Obama has indicated that he wants to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice for 9/11 and other Al Qaeda attacks, and IF reliable intelligence indicates that OBL is inside Pakistan in a known location, and IF Pakistan refuses to cooperate in his capture, THEN we will do whatever is necessary to capture OBL with or without Pakistani cooperation. This is reasonable action, not “pre-emptive invading”, and I believe most Americans wouldn’t have a problem with this — except for a few wingnuts who would be all sour grapes over the fact that Obama got OBL and not Dubya.
Now, as far as you sitting idly by if Democrats were to “pre-emptively” invade another country? I would suspect that once you’re no longer dulled by the kool-aid, you would see how wrong this is and you’d protest it. And we’d be right alongside you. After all, we believe wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter who does it.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pmBunny2 Says:
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Bunny2:
How do you feel about McCain’s confession. Was that heroic? I think it was tragic that any person would be treated so poorly by an enemy. I do not support Mr McCain but I feel bad that he experienced torture. That is why I think that anyone who supports torturing the “terrorists” is subhuman.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
He confessed to being a war criminal. He did what he had to do. He knows he wasn’t a war criminal. He was a hero for what he endured to ensure the safety of as many American men as he could and their safe return home. He stayed behind like he was trained to do. That also make him a good soldier. I wouldn’t put that in the “Horrible Service” column like MC does. If he were my father or son, I would have been very proud of what he did in Vietnam. Honor is what he deserves. Only because some of you disagree with his politics do you attack his service and sacrifice!
August 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
A real hero would have told them all to go to hell and to shove that confession right up their stupid asses.
As I’ve already stated here : Who gives a shit what your opinion is ?
You’re attempting to chastise those of us here for disliking McDepends , based upon political party affiliation and policies ; because your overwhelming fawning over him isn’t determined by the same thing you’re accusing us of ?
You’re pathetic………….
August 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pmMeanwhile…
Flippy McSpin says: “My friends. There is no reason why our friend, John Boner, should apologize to that stupid trollop”.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pmMCMetal Says:
Oh , when you lied about being ex-military ?
Keep clinging to that like the coward you are. McMacho would do nothing of the sort when it comes to calling John McCain anything to his face. That would mean he has to put down the latte at Starbucks and put down his mom’s iphone for 5 minutes. As for poking fun of or doubting my military service, has nothing to do with YOU being the coward. I thought for a minute that there could be a rational conversation with a liberal but apparently I mentioned the ultimate in obscenities…. military service.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pmI am not sorry that I served and I am not sorry that you didn’t. I do not need to defend my service in any form and it is BLATANTLY clear who the hypocrite is in our conversations. I am sure even your progressive friends will agree that military service (done honorably) more commendable than doubting it.
RE 186:
Thank you MissMolly, I knew there was a respectable progressive out there who could speak reasonably. I am with you as far as getting OBL wherever he is, but in doing so, would we then leave the other 2 theaters of war we’re currently engaged in first or are we adding a 3rd? Like I said, in less than 4 years I have a son that will be of draft age. I will do ANYTHING to keep him from ever being drafted into a war, esp. if it’s one he doesn’t support.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:08 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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Oh , when you lied about being ex-military ?
Keep clinging to that like the coward you are. McMacho would do nothing of the sort when it comes to calling John McCain anything to his face. That would mean he has to put down the latte at Starbucks and put down his mom’s iphone for 5 minutes. As for poking fun of or doubting my military service, has nothing to do with YOU being the coward. I thought for a minute that there could be a rational conversation with a liberal but apparently I mentioned the ultimate in obscenities…. military service.
I am not sorry that I served and I am not sorry that you didn’t. I do not need to defend my service in any form and it is BLATANTLY clear who the hypocrite is in our conversations. I am sure even your progressive friends will agree that military service (done honorably) more commendable than doubting it.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
There is no one here that believes you served (unless you’re talking about the counter area at your local Micky D’s).
And there is nothing for me to fear when it comes to telling a senile , moronic 72 year old d0uchebag , who still views himself as a tough guy , whatever I feel like.
BTW
There is nothing more cowardly than pretending you are or were part of something , that you simply have never been , over the internet and on an anonymous blog.
You are as stupid as you are cowardly………….
August 11th, 2008 at 5:09 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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RE 186:
Thank you MissMolly, I knew there was a respectable progressive out there who could speak reasonably.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
When is your ilk going to catch on to that ?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:11 pmBunny2 Says:
Define torture in your own words.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
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There is no “own words” definition of torture. There is only one definition of torture. There is no grey area.
According to the UN Convention Against Torture:
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Also Misshusseinmolly, that then begs the question, was OBL actually responsible for 9/11 or was it an inside job perpetrated by members of the Bush administration. Ever see Zeitgeist or Loose Change? How do we know we’re even going after the right guy?
As for McMetal:
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pmYou are still a COWARD!
Ah and just when I thought Bunny2 was showing some evidence of consistency they are seeking “wiggle room” on the torture issue. I say with stick with the definitions of international law. I submit that Mr McCain sustained treatment no more and probably less torturous than that we have learned our own nation willing to inflict. Yet, I am asked to belive his confession was bunk but that the potential “info” gained from a “freedom hater” is somehow gonna solve some imaginary 24 scenario. What a bunch of crap.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pmBunny2 Says:
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Bunny2:
So I assume that you do not support torturing the enemies of the US as clearly they will just say what they think we want to hear. Correct?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Define torture in your own words.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Waterboarding
August 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pmMcMetal says:
When is your ilk going to catch on to that ?
I acknowledge it when it happens, as I did with Molly you coward.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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Also Misshusseinmolly, that then begs the question, was OBL actually responsible for 9/11 or was it an inside job perpetrated by members of the Bush administration. Ever see Zeitgeist or Loose Change? How do we know we’re even going after the right guy?
As for McMetal:
You are still a COWARD!
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
And you’re still a lying , pathetic little lying weasel pansy b1tch……..
August 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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McMetal says:
When is your ilk going to catch on to that ?
I acknowledge it when it happens, as I did with Molly you coward.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Sad that you cannot see your own stupidity , dishonesty and cowardice , though ………..
August 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pmBunny2 @ 197:
Let’s remember your earlier suggestion that folks here are largely pacifist hippies who couldn’t fight our way out of a paper bag now that you wanna claim mistreatment at the hands of McMetal.
All I ask for is consistency…
August 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pmLater…
Flippy McSpin says: “My friends. I never called Speaker Pelosi a trollop. All my friends know that when I say trollop, or that other word, I’m talking about Cindy”.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pmBunny2 Says:
According to the UN Convention Against Torture:
So under NO circumstance would you use torture by the rules set by the UN?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
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No. There is no concievable circumstance that necessitates the use of torture.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:21 pmBunny2 Says:
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As I’ve already stated here : Who gives a shit what your opinion is ?
You’re attempting to chastise those of us here for disliking McDepends , based upon political party affiliation and policies ; because your overwhelming fawning over him isn’t determined by the same thing you’re accusing us of ?
You’re pathetic………….
August 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I would have believed you didn’t care about my opinion if you would have left it at…
As I’ve already stated here : Who gives a shit what your opinion is ?
By you choosing to comment further proves you do care about my opinion. Otherwise, why comment after the statement? And I’m pathetic?
Did I chastise you MC? I brought up Mc Cains service and challenged your opinion that he had a “horrible” record. I am proud of all of our soldiers past and present. There are a few who don’t deserve it. Abu Ghrab for example, but any soldier who fights and serves with honor is good in my book. And you are trying to discredit his service because of your political leanings. Otherwise, you wouldn’t attack him as vicious as you do. Your scared, and it shows. There, I will chastise you now, deservingly for someone who served!
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
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I attack him so “viciously” , because partisan pieces of shit like yourself attempt to deify another clueless , below-average individual , due to partisanship and your OWN FEARS OF THE UNKNOWN IN THE FORM OF A BLACK MAN.
Oh , and because that moron deserves it.
BTW
Why and how are those particular individuals at Abu Ghraib solely to blame ?
They were FOLLOWING ORDERS LIKE GOOD SOLDIERS ; orders that came from your retarded simian deity and his Shotgun happy piece of shit buddy……….
August 11th, 2008 at 5:22 pmdb, you can ask for a chicken egg from a Chevy small block, and you’re as likely to be satisfied.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:23 pmdbadass Says:
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Bunny2 @ 197:
Let’s remember your earlier suggestion that folks here are largely pacifist hippies who couldn’t fight our way out of a paper bag now that you wanna claim mistreatment at the hands of McMetal.
All I ask for is consistency…
August 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Least he/she/it is consistently stupid and partisan ……….
August 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pmBunny2 Says:
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Bunny2:
So I assume that you do not support torturing the enemies of the US as clearly they will just say what they think we want to hear. Correct?
August 11th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Define torture in your own words.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Waterboarding
August 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pm Recommend (0) |
There is NO circumstance that would make you consider using waterboarding. It’s 100% off the table and not one circumstance would allow you to use it, ever?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Not a chance in hell
To be the supposed “beacon of freedom and democracy” means proving it ; torturing others , no matter the supposed provocation , proves you’re like everyone else……..
August 11th, 2008 at 5:27 pmBunny2:
Not that I disagree with McMetal but you copy/paste implies that I said waterboarding.
No legal circumstances exist where torture would be appropriate and yes I have small children.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:28 pmBunny2 Says:
There is NO circumstance that would make you consider using waterboarding. It’s 100% off the table and not one circumstance would allow you to use it, ever?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
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Nope. None. There is absolutely no reason to use torture on another human being under any circumstances.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmTo what end?
Does it produce dependable intelligence?
If so, how do you account for McCain’s revealing the names of the Green Bay Packers (or Pittsburgh Steelers, depending on which city he’s campaigning in) to his North Vietnamee captors?
If not, then why use it at all?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmActually the Democrats do support torture. Did you see Fahrenheit 9/11? It had me begging for a waterboard. Loved the third grader working the camera angles and the poorly written narration? I had to watch “Showgirls” immediately afterwards just to watch how professionals make movies ;-)
August 11th, 2008 at 5:31 pmCan we just declare Bonehead boehner an enemy combitant and render him to a black opt sight in romania? pretty please?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pmSee Bunny
That’s “heroic” and patriotic.
The GOP’s and your own view that “it saves lives” or that nonsense about situations that occur on TV shows or in the movies , is absolutely insane.
This country was founded upon certain principles and inalienable rights ; torture is not one of them , nor is it an option……………
August 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
“I had to watch “Showgirls” immediately afterwards just to watch how professionals make movies”
and toss off a load at the thought that any woman would be interested in a republican without money changing hands first.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:33 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says
August 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Also Misshusseinmolly, that then begs the question, was OBL actually responsible for 9/11 or was it an inside job perpetrated by members of the Bush administration. Ever see Zeitgeist or Loose Change? How do we know we’re even going after the right guy?
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Let’s just say there’s enough evidence to justify an arrest warrant. He’s still entitled to a trial. However, it may not come to that — he has vowed not to be taken alive, and he allegedly has ordered his men to shoot and kill him if that appears inevitable.
Even if Osama bin Laden genuinely had nothing to do with 9/11, he is still culpable in other attacks attributed to Al Qaeda.
But I’m amused that you’re concerned about whether or not we’re going after the right guy. Since when have you right-wingers been concerned about erring on the side of caution? Does this mean you think we should release all detainees from Gitmo unless we are absolutely, positively sure they are “the right guys”?
As far as 9/11 being an inside job, I admit there are plenty of details that make me go “hmmm…”, and it was a Godsend for Bushco and their agenda. But while that can raise eyebrows, it doesn’t indict anyone.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
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Actually the Democrats do support torture. Did you see Fahrenheit 9/11? It had me begging for a waterboard. Loved the third grader working the camera angles and the poorly written narration? I had to watch “Showgirls” immediately afterwards just to watch how professionals make movies ;-)
August 11th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Not surprising
Your cowardice and stupidity leads you to believe that “Path to 9/11″ was the movie equivalent of War And Peace or the Iliad………
August 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pmBunny2 Says
“How do you define torture toasterhead? ”
Problem solved, Bunny. The Geneva Convention did it for us, of which the United States is a signatory.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pmI have to say after reading this entire thread that Bunny2 may know less about politics and history than any other troll or poster I’ve ever seen here. It’s amazing that somebody with absolutely no knowledge feels so confident in her assessments.
August 11th, 2008 at 6:27 pmphantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Actually the Democrats do support torture. Did you see Fahrenheit 9/11? It had me begging for a waterboard. Loved the third grader working the camera angles and the poorly written narration? I had to watch “Showgirls” immediately afterwards just to watch how professionals make movies ;-)
It figures you’d think Showgirls was a terrific movie. It has won a LOT of awards.
Pretty much all Razzies, but still a hell of an achievement.
August 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pmBunny2 Says:
How do you define torture toasterhead? In your own words. If you can define what consevatism is in your own words, torture shouldn’t be that hard. Listening to bad music for hours and days? Is that torture? Is doing nothing to an alleged enemy the safest way to go about gathering inteligence? Letiing all of them go when they don’t talk? “Your free to go. You gave us zero information about who you are and what you may or may not know. Have a great day sir.”.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I don’t define torture in my own words. International law is an adequate definition for me. But if you must have some concrete examples, here’s Amnesty International’s take:
“Listening to bad music for hours and days,” if it causes sleep deprivation, is torture. Psychological torture can be just as bad as physical torture. And there are no circumstances in which it is justified. Ever. No ticking time bombs or hostages – nothing.
Torture only produces bad intelligence. Its purpose is not to interrogate, but to break a prisoner’s humanity into a state of conditioned helplessness. A human in this state will say whatever they have to to stop the torture – they won’t give you accurate or actionable intelligence. They’re more likely to give you false leads that will make it even more difficult to find that ticking time bomb.
The best way to get information from an al-Qa’ida prisoner is to treat them well. I know it sounds “soft on terror,” but it works. When you treat these detainees with a bit of dignity, even stroke their egos a bit, they get comfortable and let information slip. That’s how we got a lot of good information from Shaikh al-Libi and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (before we started torturing them).
August 11th, 2008 at 8:31 pmLenin loves useful idiots such as yourself.
Did you go ask him in the Wayback Machine? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure, he’s been dead awhile, now.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:58 pmLenin loves useful idiots such as yourself.
Wasn’t Lenin an atheist? Why would he love someone who supports the ACLU, because it “turns it head” to muslims?
I’m confused.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:02 pmY’know, barfly, I think the Twajie-squad of trolls really think they’ve got some kind of heavy artillery with their “Stalin/Lenin” crap.
They don’t realize that, while such a tag might be effective in the hands of an adversary with some wit and understanding of the world, it doesn’t really work if they just fling it against the wall like they do with their own poo.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:40 pmTripleKick 11 Says:
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Miss..Molly,
You need to realize that posting death threats against the President of the United States remains a federal offense, even if TP’s angry ilk are “just kidding”. There have been MANY death threats against Bush and Cheney on TP, all of which are ILLEGAL. I specifically recall posts by JMOHR and gummich for example, both of which are daily contributors. Face it, TP.org is a hate site by haters, for haters, 100% NEGATIVITY all day, every day. I’ve alerted the Secret Service and forwarded them posts since cowardly TP admins can’t seem to police their own trash can.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I wonder if you alerted the Secret Service when mAnn Coulter claimed that Clinton should be assassinated ……
Somehow I doubt it ; you GOP/Chimpy cowardly suckholes only try to defend the garbage GOP and this imbecilic president…….
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pmMCMetal Says:
I wonder if you alerted the Secret Service when mAnn Coulter claimed that Clinton should be assassinated ……
Well if triplekick11 doesn’t pay attention to Ann Coulter, like most of the country, then I’m sure he never heard her say that. Unfortunately for you, he can paruse this website and find death threat after death threat… the reason the secret service doesn’t investigate is because they’re posted by elementary school kids who’s mommies obviously don’t monitor their internet time… while they poke fun at real men who have enlisted in military service when all they’ve ever done is finish the first level of “call of duty 17″ on their x-box 360. They usually come up with really groovy monnikers like Mcmetal(lica) or DieNowForPeace(andHairgrease).
August 11th, 2008 at 11:57 pmWhy would anyone expect any member of the Subhuman Pig Party to do anything decent? Don’t count on it.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:04 am“[John Boehner] will say anything . . . [and] seek the lowest common denominator, in order to [fire up the base]. Ethics and morality are an abstract concept to [this] self-righteous hypocrite.” *Crooks & Liars*
Lynching is always good for a chortle or two
Before I altered this, C&L used it in describing *”Billo the Clown.”
*Oberman
August 12th, 2008 at 1:27 pmI actually read ever post/comment. Can anyone tell me what good comes from debating each other ad naseum, and name calling? Do you actually think you’re accomplishing something?
I have to admit tho, that some of these postings were a scream . . . so NEVERMIND . . . forget I said anything!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pmMusk —
I need my left wing liberals to curse and slander those evil republicans. That is the only thing that keeps my pole numbers up. Have you seen the drop i’ve been taking lately?
What, you think I can run on my experience? I need these rumor milling, hate mongering, leftists to keep spewing the lies about my opponent.
Change is coming people. Pull out your wallets.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm