McCain who does not know how to use a computer but is willing to learn if we elect him – I’ll just vote for that smart black man.

My Choices are: John McCain who says the economic downturn is psychological? – Na! I’ll vote for the smart black man.

McCain who says you are better off under George Bush? – Nope I’ll vote for the smart black man.

Mc Cain who wants to continue killing more people looking for weapons of mass destruction that do not exist? – Gee! I’ll vote for the smart black man.

McCain who believes that we should stay the course but is not willing to support the people he puts in harms way. – I’ll take a chance on the smart black man.

Should I vote for a man that does not know that 9-11 was caused by Osama Bin Laden not Sedam Hussein? – Easy! I’ll vote for the smart black man.

Vote for the man who does not know if the Sunnis or Sheits are our enemies? – No way I’ll vote for the smart black man.

Vote for the man who helped put our government on the China, Saudi Arabia credit card? – Not a chance I’ll vote for the smart black man.

Vote for the man with the worst temper in the Senate to have his finger on the nuclear button? – No way – I’ll vote for the smart black man.

He didn’t? And here I thought Social Security was insurance. You’re claiming McCain didn’t pay the premiums? What the Social Security Administration does with those premiums is entirely besides the point. McCain paid his premiums and is now collecting his benefits. Perhaps you would be happier if I said that he “earned” those benefits.

When/if they use the word “disgrace” to describe a situation from which they benefit (and do not seem to be bothered by it, a la McCain), then I’ll start questioning their moral standing as well as their mental sanity.

Obviously only one other politician is getting as much press coverage as John McCain these days. That makes it hard to point to a specific politician say they used the word “disgrace”. However, I maintain that the Democratic Party, as a whole, have condemned the Bush tax cuts. Yet a large number of them have directly benefited from those same tax cuts. And if they were truly bothered by it, they would take some sort of personal action, just like you think McCain should return his Social Security benefits. For example, they could help pay down the national debt with all the money they saved because of the Bush tax cuts.

You’re applying a double standard, plain and simple. The fact that you can’t see it clearly demonstrates your partisan blindness. Perhaps one day, you’ll be able to use your own brain instead of just repeating what your party tells you.

Name one democrat who ever wore a purple heart bandaid.

Personally, I think being videotaped accepting bribes is far worse than wearing a purple heart band-aid. But I guess you disagree. Well, that’s your right. But don’t expect people to give any credence to your opinion.

$58,00 per year from the V.A. while he can’t even vote for todays veterans?

It must make a Republican feel so dirty recieving $58,000 a yr off the Gov’t trough………………..

I came back just to see if SirWillae had replied, and happened to re-read my post… “didn’t paid”?

::sigh::

Maybe I’ve been reading some of the trolls’ postings for way to long -it seems poor English is contagious after all.

Name one democrat who ever wore a purple heart bandaid.

Just one, and you prove your point.

Otherwise…

No, he didn’t. People who came before him paid those benefits, remember? From the topic of the thread:

“[P]resent-day retirees have always been paid their benefits from the taxes paid by current workers. That has been true from Social Security’s inception,” noted Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

So, no, McCain didn’t paid for those benefits.

In fact, McCain himself is aware that he didn’t paid those benefits. He must be, otherwise he couldn’t have called this fact a “disgrace”.

I am not faulting him for collecting those benefits -they are his, after all. I am faulting him for benefiting from an arrangement he thinks is an “absolute disgrace”.

Apparently, he either is guilt-free, remorseless and without a conscience, or he doesn’t stop to think before opening his mouth.

you should demand the same of Edwards, Heinz, Buffett and many, many others

When/if they use the word “disgrace” to describe a situation from which they benefit (and do not seem to be bothered by it, a la McCain), then I’ll start questioning their moral standing as well as their mental sanity.

There isn’t? Geeze, that should be news to Bill Clinton. You know, the president who approved “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. Sam Nunn would also be surprised. He was the Democratic Senator who led the Congressional opposition to lifting the ban on gays in the military. You should also tell Barack Obama about this. Last time I checked, he was still against gay marriage. Personally, I have no problem with homosexuality. But it’s clear that many Democrats do.

I would say that it is you who should put down your stones and leave our glass houses alone.

Well at least you admit to living in a glass house…

seriously, you want to come here and accuse us of hypocracy?

Yes, I do. Is there something wrong with that? Do you not believe in healthy discourse? Do you believe that you are so OBJECTIVELY correct that there’s simply no room for reasonable disagreement? Or are you just guilty as sin and don’t want to own up to it?

How about a justice system that says they can’t procecute admitted lawbreakers.

You mean like… William Jefferson?

How about the joke, well it’s really not funny, of spreading democracy in a violent and vengeful way that costs 100’s of thousands of lives, but it’s worth it, look at the results after 5 years of the worlds largest military might taking on a small country, a state really with .05% of the worlds miilitary might. Seems like we could do much better, huh?

Yeah, how about that? Why don’t you ask all of your beloved Democrats in the Senate who voted to authorize that war.

Look, I hold no love for the GOP. But this fantasy that you have that the Democrats are simply beyond reproach is… is beyond belief. They’re just as bad as the Republicans. It’s absurd to listen to people with their demonize the other party when their party is doing exactly the same thing. Politicians have one job: get elected. They will do anything to achieve it. Beyond that, everything is secondary.

Fair enough, I’ll excuse your faux pas if you excuse mine. I have no reason to lie on any of my posts as I expect that what folks like you tell me is the truth. Lying will only increase the divide not close it. You have my apologies for my “assumption”.

SirWillae Says:
My beef is that a lot of people here are applying a double standard.

You mean like people who rant and legislate against homsexuality when they are homosexuals themselves, that kind of double standard. Note: nothing wrong with homosexuality I thought I should qualify it before you took it to the moon. I am talking about the hypocracy.

You mean like the clear skies initiative that the bush admin has pushed which is anything but what it’s title implies.

I would say that it is you who should put down your stones and leave our glass houses alone.

seriously, you want to come here and accuse us of hypocracy? Where’s the justice? How about a justice system that says they can’t procecute admitted lawbreakers.

I’m laughing so hard I can barely continue.

How about those of you who believe in the rights of a fetus but not a childs right to basic medical and educational needs after birth? Could it be the hypocracy that drives you to use abortion as a polititcal hammer when you really don’t care at all.

How about the joke, well it’s really not funny, of spreading democracy in a violent and vengeful way that costs 100’s of thousands of lives, but it’s worth it, look at the results after 5 years of the worlds largest military might taking on a small country, a state really with .05% of the worlds miilitary might. Seems like we could do much better, huh?

Thanks I know, that’s why I corrected myself before you even had time to google the words “congressional medal of honor”.

Hey Asswipe, I didn’t have to Google the MoH. I have worked on a publication about that award as a result of my knowing one from Vietnam. So don’t assume anything, K?

Excuse you for calling me a troll.

My beef is that a lot of people here are applying a double standard. McCain says he doesn’t believe in Social Security. So people are faulting him for collecting it (conveniently ignoring the fact that he paid for those benefits). On the other hand, many, many Democrats complain about tax breaks for the wealthy while they, themselves, are the beneficiary of those tax breaks. If you want McCain to put his money where his mouth is, then you should demand the same of Edwards, Heinz, Buffett and many, many others.

NO ONE has ever been awarded 2 Medals of Honor in the history of the military.

You might want to double check your “facts” on that one.

Thanks I know, that’s why I corrected myself before you even had time to google the words “congressional medal of honor”.

Thank you for your ‘nam service. DieNowForPeace will probably call you a fool for killing for your corrupt government. I, on the other hand, applaud you. My father is a Vietnam vet, 2 tours with 2 congressional medals of honor, though he took a bullet and some shrapnel in his arm and back, not a single purple heart. Thanks to the US government and her military, true heroes are rarely rewarded for heroism.

You just blew your cover phantasy!

NO ONE has ever been awarded 2 Medals of Honor in the history of the military. I am a Vietnam combat vet and RESENT your lying bullshit and have now reduced you to what you are; a typical wothless lying Repug troll.

Like I said… arguing semantics in an attempt to dismiss the point. It’s usually what the loser of an arguement will do when he has nothing reasonable to say.

Thank you for your ‘nam service. DieNowForPeace will probably call you a fool for killing for your corrupt government. I, on the other hand, applaud you. My father is a Vietnam vet, 2 tours with 2 congressional medals of honor, though he took a bullet and some shrapnel in his arm and back, not a single purple heart. Thanks to the US government and her military, true heroes are rarely rewarded for heroism.

lawr1999 says:
I would call it exactly what Wiki calls it, unemployment insurance. I am going to bet you didn’t bother to read the article you linked

phantasymanINphantasyland Says:
Yes, unemployment insurance funded by taxes. And who pays taxes? The people… The people are generally reffered to as the “public”. You, my friend, are arguing semantics to dismiss the point of the statement altogether.

You’re a fool. No taxes paid go to unemployment insurance. It is totally funded by employees and employers. If you don’t work you can’t draw it…simple and majestic.

See ya in the funny papers.

I guess you think you are the only vet left behind. Lots of of are vets and some of us were around in the nam era. You should read more. I’m leaving you behind now just as the rest of the world seems to have. Bye.

Yes, unemployment insurance funded by taxes. And who pays taxes? The people… The people are generally reffered to as the “public”. You, my friend, are arguing semantics to dismiss the point of the statement altogether.