Last Sunday on CBS’s Face the Nation, Karl Rove attacked Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine (D) by offering the following “patronizing comments” about the city of Richmond, Virginia:
With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he’s been a governor for three years, he’s been able but undistinguished. I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done.
He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it’s smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It’s not a big town.
Watch it:
The residents of the Virginian capital are not taking Rove’s comments lying down. In an article entitled, “In belittling Richmond’s size, Rove shows he’s out of touch,” Richmond Times Dispatch journalist Michael Paul Williams writes, “Wow. And Republicans call Democrats elitist.”
“It appears that Karl Rove will swiftboat anyone, including cities,” said Del. Dwight Clinton Jones (D), a candidate for mayor. City Council President and mayoral candidate William Pantele added, “Richmond has more in culture, history and business than all those cities [cited by Rove] put together. And so, perhaps Mr. Rove would like to come see how terrific a place this is, the capital city of Virginia, rather than just taking shots on a news show.”
Williams notes that if physical size is such an important consideration, the current Vice President shouldn’t have been selected:
It should be pointed out that Cheney’s political career began in Wyoming, the least populous state in the nation. With fewer than 525,000 residents, it’s less than half the size of the Richmond metro area.
In a web-video posted on the Times Dispatch site, Williams calls Rove’s comments a “cynical and misguided viewpoint, out of touch with America and the real people with real problems who reside there.”
It’s fully understandable why Rove would be concerned about size!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amWilliams calls Rove’s comments a “cynical and misguided viewpoint, out of touch with America and the real people with real problems who reside there.
In other words, it was a typical comment for RoverBoy.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amWhy isn’t anyone asking him why he refuses subpoenas?
Everyone appears to want his opinion, but none of the faux reporters ask a real question.
KKKarl, among political masters, you’re about the size or Richmond.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amKKKarl, among political masters, you’re about the size of Richmond.
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August 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amWilliams notes that if physical size is such an important consideration, the current Vice President shouldn’t have been selected
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August 12th, 2008 at 10:07 amWilliams notes that if physical size is such an important consideration, the current Vice President shouldn’t have been selected:
Yes, we’ve always know that the Dick-tator was compensating for size…
August 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am“I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done.”
I thought conservatives wanted government to do as little as possible.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amHey, it’s still better than Canton, South Dakota. Now that place is a shithole!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amThanks, Karl — I think you just turned Virginia blue whether Obama picks Kaine or not.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amIf Kaine can’t get anything done it’s because of the republican obstruction in the House. The Senate didn’t pick up a slim democratic majority until recently. Best example: his transportation bill.
The one-term limit doesn’t help much, either.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amIt’s also the site of Patrick Henry’s speech:
“Give me liberty, or give me death!”
That must scare the bejeezus out of Karl. He went to considerable trouble to research the relative size of Richmond proper. Leaving out the Metropolitan Statistical Area is the statistical counterpart to word parsing.
The area around Richmond has grown considerably the last few decades. Karl would do well not to offend nearly a million people.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amAh, now that brings me joy, Misshusseinmolly.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amLet’s examine Rove’s Logic, shall we?
Richmond, VA: population 200,000
George W. Bush. Born in New Haven, CT. Population: 124,000
Dick Cheney. Born in Lincoln, NE. Population:248,000. Raised in Casper, WY. Population: 49,644
And in the kicker. Karl Rove. Born in Denver, CO. Population: 588,000. Raised in Sparks, NV. Population: 90,000
August 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amAnd still, the fat bloviator who has nothing to say gets a spot in the media and his words are repeated here.
Ignore him. Please marginalize him. He is NOT news. His words are campaign rhetoric.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amThe tubby bastard looks like he’s putting on weight.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amArgh, more Ned Beatty flashbacks…
August 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amThe Founding Father’s ties to Richmond are deep and long. Karl and his Bush league company defecated on their ideals, multiple times.
It’s time for the people to gather up on Churchill. Patrick Henry is speaking. I hear it’s gonna be a heck of a speech. Listen close folks.
It’s time to reclaim our liberty from pinheads like Karl. That means a pox on the House of McCain. The stain has gone on for eight torturous years. May it end soon.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:30 amRove is sending a message to all the other “little” cities that form his base: toe the line, or he will smear them too.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amKaine is making it up the chain no faster than Spiro Agnew, who went from county executive to governor to vice president in six years.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amMorning Gooey:
August 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amYa know what I hate?
Gooey Says
August 12th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Gov. Kaine is guilty of “enhancing” his resume.
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Are you suggesting that Kaine isn’t the Governor of Virginia? Are you suggesting that he wasn’t the Mayor of Richmond? How is putting these on his resume “enhancing” it?
Try this — provide a link instead of just flinging poo.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amGooey
Your schtick is old. Can someone explain to me what the troll obsession with Zoeey is about — from her personal finances, to her educational pursuits, etc. For government-hating conservatives, they sure are as bad as they accuse the government of being.
Note to idiot trolls grasping at straws: A mayorship is a mayorship. You don’t manage people, you manage an institution.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amWhy this criminal gets face time on the tube to spew his crap is beyond me. There are no doubt people that are paying the networks for his time. I really doubt if there’s anyone that cares to hear a word he has to say.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:37 amWhat happened to congress holding him in contempt ?
Oh, I almost forgot, nancy’s the speaker and the rest of them are her little ducks in a row.
Gov. Kaine is guilty of “enhancing” his resume.
And all of his elected majorities were in on it.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:39 amI think the best point was made at the beginning of this Kaine-VP speculation: Kaine’s urban experience can lend to an Obama presidency, and Kaine can mesh well with Obama as his chief advisor because of that shared experience.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:42 amRove demoralizing? Belittling?
Really?
Anyone remember McCain 2000?
(oh, and Gooey, I got yer “hate” site, right here!)
August 12th, 2008 at 10:44 amDennis, I grew up in Richmond. Was there but weeks ago, visiting family. While it carried the stain of segregation, it’s role in the founding of our country is clear.
On March 23, 1775, Washington, Jefferson, George Wythe, Patrick Henry and other members of the Second Virginia Convention, gathered at St. John’s Church, Richmond; the torch of Liberty was kindled by the inspired words of Patrick Henry, “Give me liberty . . . or give me death!”
Karl’s a nit.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:44 amYou are brilliant, stateofthedivision.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:46 amwhy is that fat piece of shlt still walking around a “free” man?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:47 amThe residents of the Virginian capital are not taking Rove’s comments lying down. In an article entitled, “In belittling Richmond’s size, Rove shows he’s out of touch,” Richmond Times Dispatch journalist Michael Paul Williams writes, “Wow. And Republicans call Democrats elitist.”
“It appears that Karl Rove will swiftboat anyone, including cities,” said Del. Dwight Clinton Jones (D), a candidate for mayor.
Ad hominen attacks against their opponents is stock and trade for Republicans. When you don’t have truth on your side there’s little else you can do. While it’s not at all surprising that Republicans accuse Democrats as being elitist, it is surprising that anyone believes it given the reality.
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August 12th, 2008 at 10:49 amRove has proved he knows how to get to census.gov and look up data. Bravo.
But did he notice that all the cities he compared Richmond to are suburbs, whereas Richmond is the center of a metro area? Oh, I’m sure he noticed that, and it was deliberate.
He could have compared Richmond to Little Rock or Salt Lake City (both of which are smaller than Richmond, but are similar in that they are capital cities of their states as well as the center of their metro areas). But he wanted to belittle the size of Richmond, not enhance it.
It’s true that Gilbert, AZ is slightly larger than Richmond, but the character of the town is a great deal different. It’s merely a bedroom community for Phoenix, making it a perfect place (as are the other places on Rove’s list) to paint Richmond as insignificant.
All that aside, the citizens of Virginia apparently felt that Kaine’s political resume was sufficient to elect him Lt. Governor and then Governor. It would seem to me then that the size of Richmond is completely irrelevant.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:55 amThat’s the problem with government leaders today, most are actors. They don’t know the basics of leadership, but fill their pockets with the people’s money.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:57 amWhat RoverBoy always neglects to mention is that GDumbya’s supposed “qualifications” are all suspect:
1) his military “service” — with Poppy’s help, he jumped over the backs of everyone on the TANG waiting list; he piloted a plane that was retired from use in combat and also let it be know that he “declined” overseas assignment; he deserted the TANG when he feared his drug abuse would be discovered in a flight physical
2) his oil business — he drilled dry holes and burned through Poppy’s friends’ money
3) his MLB job — he was a front man for the Rangers who managed to make his masters rich by engineering a land-grab for their new stadium
4) Texas governorship — Texas is a weak governor/strong Congress form of government; GDumbya was little more than a figurehead and babysitter
August 12th, 2008 at 10:58 amwhich was little more than a stepping stone for him
No, it’s called a career in politics — the noble way. Unlike all of those Bush appointees who skipped the usual rungs of the government ladder by lounging in corporate America.
Councilman to Mayor to Lieutenant Governor to Governor to VP?. That’s the ’start from scratch’ way of making it in American politics, and shame on you for refusing to see the light.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:02 amI find it hysterically ironic that the troll Gooey has the balls to assert that Kaine “padded” his resume. This toady sure hasn’t had any problem with an Administration that spent seven years searching out and hiring incompetents to every level of Government whose sole hiring point was being a Republican bootlicker. No resume needed for Bush’s crew. If anything he has gone out of his way to hire as many foxes as he can to guard the hen houses. Being a legitimately elected official allready gives Kaine one up on Herr Georgie, doesn’t it Gooey? Gooey??
August 12th, 2008 at 11:02 amdennis Says:
Sorry, but the proud history of America has NOTHING to do with anything George Bush did as President…
There, fixed it for you buffoon.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:06 amPeople all over the country in towns the same size as Richmond and smaller should be saying to themselves, “Karl Rove thinks we’re too small to matter”.
Keep talking Karl!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:08 amWhenever Rove says”with all due respect”, he means no respect is due from him.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:08 amWhy is this guy on multiple networks every day? He’s nothing but a hitman for the GOP.
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According to the House of Representatives, I can tell a Judiciary Committee to go get Cheney’d concerning a subpoena that they’ve issued and then turn around and plead my case in the public forum.
Strange times we live in… NO?
In fact, 14 of the House Judiciary members felt it appropriate that people REFUSE to APPEAR upon SUBPOENA to cite their immunity privilege, if any, and therefore thinking that OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE is an American principle.
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Mr. Sensenbrenner Jr.(R) Wisconsin, 5th
Mr. Coble.(R) North Carolina, 6th
Mr. Goodlatte.(R) Virginia, 6th
Mr. Lungren.(R) California, 3rd
Mr. Cannon.(R) Utah, 3rd
Mr. Keller.(R) Florida, 8th
Mr. Forbes.(R) Virginia, 4th
Mr. King.(R) Iowa, 5th
Mr. Feeney.(R) Florida, 24th
Mr. Franks.(R) Arizona, 2nd
Mr. Gohmert.(R) Texas, 1st
Mr. Jordan.(R) Ohio, 4th
Mr. Issa.(R) California, 49th
IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE REPRESENT YOU, THEY’VE GIVEN DEFERENCE TO A MAN OVER THE RULE OF LAW AND NO LONGER HAVE FAITHFULLY REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE.
VOTE OUT TREASON!
Here’s the funny thing about all this, Nancy thinks she might bring the issue up to a full House vote… This is code for “decided she might NOT”.
… Anyone holding their breath on this one?
VOTE OUT TREASON…
… THIS MEANS NANCY TOO!
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August 12th, 2008 at 11:12 amGoo be gone. You’re tiresome.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:15 amdennis Says: When he talks, people listen. Whether you like him or not.
It’s hard to avoid the stench of pig sh*t. You notice, but only because it’s offensive, and you want it cleaned up.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:20 amawww, dennis and goo must be our designated bedwetting trolls for the day
keep spreading that fear-based agenda, you cowards!
Why are Republicans such whiny little sissies?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:25 amIf contrast is the goal maybe McShitstain could pick him for VP. He’s smart and a good guy, definitely not qualities of the senile one. Where you going to find that in the cesspool of the GOP?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am.
Me thinks Tripp_10_”Cheeto Fingers” is a bit Gooey… NO?
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August 12th, 2008 at 11:28 amRantingTommy Says: Why are Republicans such whiny little sissies?
V a g i n a envy :0
August 12th, 2008 at 11:29 amKKKarl lives to hate anything and everything he can think of.He is a little man in my book along with the rest of the Reich.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:31 amIn GWBush’s America a worm like Karl Rove gets to grow and turn into a snake. The idiot Bush has created the right habitat of deceit and corruption for this worm, as well as many other corrupt worms, to thrive. Throw Rove in jail and let him rot in there. And keep an eye on the idiot who is always so quick and eager to pardon criminals. Can’t wait for this shameful 8yr stretch under an illegitimate idiot criminal ruler to come to an end.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:43 amKarl Rove attacked Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine (D), “He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it’s smaller than my fat head.”
August 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pmThis pudgy lowlife refuses to follow the law, appear before congress as requested but still goes on the networks to talk garbage. When will we wake up? This guy should be in jail and nobody should give him airtime or space.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:48 pmJohn McCain today: ‘I’m very, very disappointed that my request for World War III has been denied by President Medvedev.’
August 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pm“Richmond has more in culture, history and business than all those cities [cited by Rove] put together.”
Hey wait a minute. I’m from Aurora, Colorado and … oh yeah, what he said.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pmWhy is Karl Rove still free to collect a paycheck from Faux News ? Shouldn’t he be printing license plates by now?
August 12th, 2008 at 2:09 pmRove audio is up here.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pmWell, you know what they say. You can put glasses on a pig but, it’s still a pig. This is the reason that I refuse to watch any MSM.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:22 pmOkay, without reading any other post, I must comment that the reason Rove made these remarks about Richmond, VA is because he is hoping to goad O8ama into picking Tom Kaine for his VP. He’s attempting to give Kaine enough Republican negative publicity that O8ama instinctively tries to turn the negative into a positive.
Rove is a slimy little sleaze ball.
Possibly he’s thinking that if O8ama doesn’t pick Kaine then he can come back and use his own (Rove’s) negative comments against O8ama in the GE, and attempt to swing Virginia red again.
Beware the slimy little sleazeball.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:45 pmThis was a very interesting article
August 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pm