Comments on: DeMint on possible gov’t shutdown: I think people will say ‘the heck with government, we need energy.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:44:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5157670 ucsbclassics53 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:15:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5157670 I feel sorry for trolls like obamagr8...they have been so taken in by GOP and Big Oil propaganda that they actually believe that more drilling will bring back the days of $1.46 a gallon gas...If they could only see the puppetmasters of the GOP laughing at them while cheerfully using their support to enrich their cronies at their expense, then perhaps they could see the light... then again, I really don't...because anyone who swallows everything the GOP says really deserves it... I feel sorry for trolls like obamagr8…they have been so taken in by GOP and Big Oil propaganda that they actually believe that more drilling will bring back the days of $1.46 a gallon gas…If they could only see the puppetmasters of the GOP laughing at them while cheerfully using their support to enrich their cronies at their expense, then perhaps they could see the light…

then again, I really don’t…because anyone who swallows everything the GOP says really deserves it…

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5157650 ucsbclassics53 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:03:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5157650 Hit those bastards with ads...that say that they want to make Big Oil rich by refusing to open up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve...refusing to rein in the oil speculators, refusing to do anything to hurt their Big Oil allies, turn around the use of the ELITIST charge upon them and hit it with them where the sun don't shine... Republicans want to make Big Oil rich...not help you out...why is it not simple enough for our Democrats? Hit those bastards with ads…that say that they want to make Big Oil rich by refusing to open up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve…refusing to rein in the oil speculators, refusing to do anything to hurt their Big Oil allies, turn around the use of the ELITIST charge upon them and hit it with them where the sun don’t shine…

Republicans want to make Big Oil rich…not help you out…why is it not simple enough for our Democrats?

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5157646 ucsbclassics53 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:59:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5157646 Oh, yeah those populist Republicans...taking money from Big Oil for their populist causes...Only people as ignorant as those trolls we have here like Tanqueray would buy that... Oh, yeah those populist Republicans…taking money from Big Oil for their populist causes…Only people as ignorant as those trolls we have here like Tanqueray would buy that…

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156854 Leftside Annie Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:08:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156854 Gee, Obie - maybe they ought to drill - right through your head. Oh...but that's empty, isn't it? Never mind. Gee, Obie – maybe they ought to drill – right through your head.

Oh…but that’s empty, isn’t it?

Never mind.

]]> By: Klem Kiddilehopper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156578 Klem Kiddilehopper Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:20:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156578 I wonder if Demint knows that the following foreign countries are already drilling in the Gulf of Mexico: BHP Australia BP United Kingdom Encana Canada ENI Italy Marubeni Japan Nexen Canada Nippon Oil Japan Noble Corp Cayman Island (Wonder who owns this compamy?) Petrobas Brazil Shell Netherlands Sojitz Japan TotalElfFina France These foreign countries plus American companies owe to the US $1.3 billion in unpaid royalties. Along with American companies these foreign countries were awarded leases to drill in 1998 and 1999, but haven't started drilling: Maersk Oil Denmark Mitsui Japan Petsec Energy Australia Repsol Spain Revus Energy Norway Statoil Norway Teikoku Japan So whats Demint and the Repubes really whining about? They don't even have pot to piss this election, so they whine and pull childness stunts, like hanging around theHouse Floor whileCongress is closed! I wonder if Demint knows that the following foreign countries are already drilling in the Gulf of Mexico:
BHP Australia
BP United Kingdom
Encana Canada
ENI Italy
Marubeni Japan
Nexen Canada
Nippon Oil Japan
Noble Corp Cayman Island (Wonder who owns this compamy?)
Petrobas Brazil
Shell Netherlands
Sojitz Japan
TotalElfFina France
These foreign countries plus American companies owe to the US $1.3 billion in unpaid royalties.
Along with American companies these foreign countries were awarded leases to drill in 1998 and 1999, but haven’t started drilling:
Maersk Oil Denmark
Mitsui Japan
Petsec Energy Australia
Repsol Spain
Revus Energy Norway
Statoil Norway
Teikoku Japan

So whats Demint and the Repubes really whining about? They don’t even have pot to piss this election, so they whine and pull childness stunts, like hanging around theHouse Floor whileCongress is closed!

]]> By: Game of Life http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156550 Game of Life Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:16:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156550 <em>obamagr8 Says: Again, troll, why do the oil companies export 1.8 million barrels of oil a day to other countries, rather than leave that oil in the US to help the consumer prices? Read, cheerleader. The vast majority of the oil that is exported is in the form of finished products like grease and lube oil. This is what grownups call "commerce." And if you think this is such a bad idea, have the Democrat controlled Congress pass legislation outlawing the export of petroleum. First step might be to reverse the law that the Clinton Administration had passed that allowed Alaskan oil to be exported. Virtually none is actually shipped out of the country but thanks to Clinton and the Democrats, it is legal.</em> Man do you lie your stupid ass off just like a typical repug. <a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_United_States_oil_is_exported" rel="nofollow">STFU troll #1</a> <a href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/35380" rel="nofollow">STFU troll #2</a> <blockquote>American-based companies are shipping record amounts of gasoline and diesel fuel to other countries.</blockquote> obamagr8 Says:

Again, troll, why do the oil companies export 1.8 million barrels of oil a day to other countries, rather than leave that oil in the US to help the consumer prices?

Read, cheerleader.

The vast majority of the oil that is exported is in the form of finished products like grease and lube oil. This is what grownups call “commerce.”

And if you think this is such a bad idea, have the Democrat controlled Congress pass legislation outlawing the export of petroleum. First step might be to reverse the law that the Clinton Administration had passed that allowed Alaskan oil to be exported. Virtually none is actually shipped out of the country but thanks to Clinton and the Democrats, it is legal.

Man do you lie your stupid ass off just like a typical repug.

STFU troll #1

STFU troll #2

American-based companies are shipping record amounts of gasoline and diesel fuel to other countries.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156532 Wayne Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:11:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156532 Japan purchased 80% of Alaska’s energy exports in 2004. China, Hong Kong, Korea, Canada and Chile imported the remainder. Japan purchased 80% of Alaska’s energy exports in 2004. China, Hong Kong, Korea, Canada and Chile imported the remainder.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156508 Wayne Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:07:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156508 <em>obamagr8 Says: Read, cheerleader. The vast majority of the oil that is exported is in the form of finished products like grease and lube oil. This is what grownups call “commerce.”</em> Read yourself troll, fuel is part of the exports and most of the crude oil coming out of the Alaska pipeline is shipped and sold directly to Japan as well as other countries and never is processed in the US. I knew you could not give an honest answer obamagr8 Says:
Read, cheerleader.

The vast majority of the oil that is exported is in the form of finished products like grease and lube oil. This is what grownups call “commerce.”

Read yourself troll, fuel is part of the exports and most of the crude oil coming out of the Alaska pipeline is shipped and sold directly to Japan as well as other countries and never is processed in the US.

I knew you could not give an honest answer

]]> By: chiefeditor http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156492 chiefeditor Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156492 Audio from the clip is up <a href="http://entertonement.com/clips?keywords=jim+demint" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Audio from the clip is up here.

]]> By: Game of Life http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156472 Game of Life Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156472 OT -- why isn't his site talking about hill's possible disruption of the dem convention? OT — why isn’t his site talking about hill’s possible disruption of the dem convention?

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156462 gummitch Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:56:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156462 <em>ralph the wonder llama Says: obamagr8 Says: Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind? Why? Are you suggesting “Big Wind” is profitable?</em> Do a quick search on "pelosi income wind" and it's obvious that this is the latest Malkin/freeper feeble attack on Democrats. Virtually all the results are identical and all of them link back to the same dribble from Malkin. Malkin predictably labels the Sierra Club as "do-nothings". And, buried in all that crap is the information that Pelosi's investment is actually in T Boone Pickens' <em>natural gas</em> company. After years of politicians sucking on the gas/oil teat, especially Republicans, this is a typically feeble attempt to divert attention and sob that "they do it too!" because Democrats are supporting alternative energy production. ralph the wonder llama Says:

obamagr8 Says:

Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind?

Why? Are you suggesting “Big Wind” is profitable?

Do a quick search on “pelosi income wind” and it’s obvious that this is the latest Malkin/freeper feeble attack on Democrats. Virtually all the results are identical and all of them link back to the same dribble from Malkin. Malkin predictably labels the Sierra Club as “do-nothings”. And, buried in all that crap is the information that Pelosi’s investment is actually in T Boone Pickens’ natural gas company.

After years of politicians sucking on the gas/oil teat, especially Republicans, this is a typically feeble attempt to divert attention and sob that “they do it too!” because Democrats are supporting alternative energy production.

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156442 Cal Malenky Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:52:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156442 Oil is sold a global market. That doesn't seem to sink in with the GOP demagogues. If the US decided to not sell oil extracted in the US to the global market, what's to stop Canada and Mexico from keeping their oil and not selling it on the world market? Or Russia closing the gas valve to western Europe? Distance from source to consumer is a big factor in what gets used where but the price is determined by world markets. There is no way out of oil dependence by drilling for more of it. We need to find alternatives for the long term and reduce consumption by making more efficient cars in the short term. Oil is sold a global market. That doesn’t seem to sink in with the GOP demagogues. If the US decided to not sell oil extracted in the US to the global market, what’s to stop Canada and Mexico from keeping their oil and not selling it on the world market? Or Russia closing the gas valve to western Europe?
Distance from source to consumer is a big factor in what gets used where but the price is determined by world markets. There is no way out of oil dependence by drilling for more of it. We need to find alternatives for the long term and reduce consumption by making more efficient cars in the short term.

]]> By: Game of Life http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156432 Game of Life Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:49:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156432 Ain't that the shit. repugs can close down the government for oil (another stunt) but anything for the people is stepped on with the same foot they used to stomp the constitution. this is just another bs feather in the repugs cap...invasion, healthcare, steal, destroying... Close the mf government down, it's not working anyway. Ain’t that the shit. repugs can close down the government for oil (another stunt) but anything for the people is stepped on with the same foot they used to stomp the constitution.

this is just another bs feather in the repugs cap…invasion, healthcare, steal, destroying…

Close the mf government down, it’s not working anyway.

]]> By: upside99 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156392 upside99 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:41:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156392 In 85: 'out' s/b 'put' In 85:

‘out’ s/b ‘put’

]]> By: upside99 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156384 upside99 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:40:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156384 <em>obamagr8 Says: Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind?</em> And as a renewable, alternative energy source, is this a threat to your interests? You can out wind generators in Alaska, you know. obamagr8 Says:

Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind?

And as a renewable, alternative energy source, is this a threat to your interests? You can out wind generators in Alaska, you know.

]]> By: LibertyLover http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156378 LibertyLover Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:39:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156378 Yep. Shut her down. It worked SO well the last time they did it. Yep. Shut her down. It worked SO well the last time they did it.

]]> By: Peter C http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156366 Peter C Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:37:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156366 If they are going to shut down government, we might as well proceed with impeachment, right? If they are going to shut down government, we might as well proceed with impeachment, right?

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156342 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:32:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156342 <em>misshusseinmolly Says: The Republicans want to strike while the majority of the voters remain ignorant as to how giving the oil companies offshore and ANWR leases will have any positive effect at the gas pump. Thus this desperation. I predict the voters won’t remain ignorant for long, and this will bite them in the butt in November.</em> This is only going to happen if the Democratic party gets hopping now. They need to do advertisements to get the real facts of the situation out there. It's very sad that the Democratic party has to spend our money to get the facts out that the MSM should be reporting. I read a copy of the local rag newspaper the other day in a coffee shop and it had an article that said if we start drilling offshore right now, we will see an immediate reduction in the cost of gas and that in 2 years we will start seeing much more gasoline available at lower prices. Where in the world the paper got that is beyond me, but I suspect it is typical of what most Americans are reading in their local newspaper. misshusseinmolly Says:
The Republicans want to strike while the majority of the voters remain ignorant as to how giving the oil companies offshore and ANWR leases will have any positive effect at the gas pump. Thus this desperation. I predict the voters won’t remain ignorant for long, and this will bite them in the butt in November.

This is only going to happen if the Democratic party gets hopping now. They need to do advertisements to get the real facts of the situation out there. It’s very sad that the Democratic party has to spend our money to get the facts out that the MSM should be reporting. I read a copy of the local rag newspaper the other day in a coffee shop and it had an article that said if we start drilling offshore right now, we will see an immediate reduction in the cost of gas and that in 2 years we will start seeing much more gasoline available at lower prices. Where in the world the paper got that is beyond me, but I suspect it is typical of what most Americans are reading in their local newspaper.

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156338 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:31:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156338 <blockquote>obamagr8 Says: Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind?</blockquote> Why? Are you suggesting "Big Wind" is profitable? (I presume you're talking about wind-generated power, and not the kind of bloviating that is a hallmark of Faux News.)

obamagr8 Says:

Now, answer a question of mine: How much of Pelosi’s annual income is derived from her investments in Big Wind?

Why? Are you suggesting “Big Wind” is profitable?

(I presume you’re talking about wind-generated power, and not the kind of bloviating that is a hallmark of Faux News.)

]]> By: AlphaLiberal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-5156284 AlphaLiberal Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:20:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/demint-on-possible-shutdown-i-think-people-will-say-%e2%80%98the-heck-with-government-we-need-energy%e2%80%99/#comment-5156284 Will the Dems PLEASE GET IN THE GAME? Ask Kerry how ignoring Republican attacks works! Have we learned nothing? Will the Dems PLEASE GET IN THE GAME? Ask Kerry how ignoring Republican attacks works!

Have we learned nothing?

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