Johnny McCain’t be tech savy but …
WHO COUNTS YOUR VOTE?
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Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

~ John Stuart Mill

This would be more correct.

Only a Conservative could be proud of being dumb as a bag of hair.

I like those quotes. That points out the problem from the manipulated receiver’s end, but there’s also a huge problem from the sender’s end:

“There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and thus will always be ‘the man in the street.’ Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.”

“Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals it seeks.”

Joseph Goebbels – 1934
Karl Rove – 2003

And too dumb to understand the meaning.

“So then why do people keep electing Conservatives?”

My short answer in this point in time is a complicit corporate run media.

“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts.”
-A. Lincoln

My longer answer to this age old question has been stated better by sager men than me from various points in history:

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

-Alexander Hamilton

“Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.”

-H.L. Mencken

“Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.”

-Bertrand Russell

“We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men.”

Edward R. Murrow

“The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.”

-Robert M. Hutchins

“So long as men worship the Caesars and Napoleons, Caesars and Napoleons will duly arise and make them miserable.”

-Aldous Huxley

“Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don’t practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us – and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along.”

-Carl Sagan

“Only the mob and the elite can be attracted by the momentum of totalitarianism itself. The masses have to be won by propaganda.”

-Hannah Arendt

and lastly, sad but too true:

“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

-Joseph Stalin

I don’t think people are afraid of change. They are afraid of screwing up and getting caught. Often, even the well meaning are afraid of making things worse.

I think it ties into what Fred was saying about aggression and domination. Our society, especially our elected representation, seems to find it impossible to say “I screwed up, help me fix it”. We have a superiority complex.

The horrors of Iraq could have been lessened if, once it became apparent that Saddam had never been a threat, we had forced a policy of “we screwed up, help us fix it”. But, our insane superiority complex was enough, coupled with a need for revenge and pure shock that Bushco really was THAT bad, to allow a fundamentally flawed cabal to pursue an insane policy of occupation.

I even think some of the least trollish trolls are driven, mostly, by an unwillingness to believe they backed a loser. But, there’s sort of an upside.

When it becomes apparent to enough people, and/or those who wield real power, that things are screwed up and need fixing? The need to try something overcomes the fear of making things worse. I hope.

Despite all the carnage, this is an exciting time. Within a few short years we will know if the strengths of our system are enough to redress the damage caused by wicked men.

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Wow, that sounds familiar! He actively worked against the new GI Bill, then when it appeared on the cover of the American Legion, he took credit for it. Seems like a pattern for him.

Brown, rumsfeld, gonzalas, bush himself…..wolfowitz, etc.

These peoples best friends are corporate America. They run things, they decide for our communities too. They tell Americans what to think because they have control of the purse strings.

Got a pepsi machine in your local public school?

Who donates to local schools and what are thier priorities. This should be changed so that they are not in control of the agenda for our public schools.

We need to rethink our priorities. This predictable bad economy have many people doing that for the first time in a while, there will be more.

Ignorance and/or fear (which is usually a consequence of ignorance).

Hopefully we’ve learned from this that there’s nothing to fear but fear itself.

People need to turn of the t.v. and start paying attention. I agree with you. Democracy won’t be democracy if we don’t participate.

That seems odd considering evolution, the basis for species survival is all about change. You’d think our DNA would be programmed to embrace change.

Personally, I thrive on change – am just not so fond of the transitions :)

Well, everyone seems primed for change now. Guess it’s because the fear of change at presesnt is far less than the fear of staying the samee.

Fred Says: I contend that Americans were anxious for a war.

unbelievable Says:
I find that hard to believe about most Americans. Perhaps there was the 9/11 factor that played a role.

Then why did the Americans allow the aggressive impeachment of Clinton instead of defending a sound leader?

Why were bush and the neocons embraced knowing full well what their agenda was?

Why is waving the flag and proclaiming how great we are of higher importance than advancing our nation economically?

Why are violent sports that damage our children for life even without the advent of steroids the main event in America?

Why are union/corporate relationships unnessesarily advecerial. Other civilized nations have sucessful union/corporate relationships, why not here?

Why is being sucessful in life here a sure sign that you stepped on other peoples heads to get there or stabbed someone in the back?

Why are companies that make their income from other peoples misery the most sucessful companies in America?

ect.

We need to rethink our priorities. This predictable bad economy have many people doing that for the first time in a while, there will be more.

Because there are far too many of us who are afraid of change. People who are comfortable with their old mindsets and prejudices. They’re like the teen whose mother is trying to get him out of bed in the morning and on his way to school (”just five more minutes — please!”) — they are being jangled awake by an annoying alarm clock and they are desperately trying to hit the snooze button.

And any candidate who espouses the “let’s kick the butts of anybody who isn’t like us” will attract such a voter, because this relieves the obligation of thinking.

I worked at two different high schools over the past three years and I can tell you that it is far worse than most people know.

Not only are students bullied, but they are taught to be silent, submissive little sheep who never ever question authority or the consequences are so astronomical that they will be certain to not do it again. They memorize useless trivia in order to regurgitate it for the sake of standardized tests, which judge them for life.

My favorites were the ones who saw through the charade and didn’t bow to the fear. They were the ones with the most potential to something amazing with their lives. Unfortunately, their records keep them out of the top tier colleges and universities.

Our eEducation system needs a serious overhaul. I like Obama’s plan. I hope he gets to implement it. But I’m not holding my breath.

Ah, good times, good times…

PEACE

McCain got him a computer and started to practice.
He wrote his first two words Tire then Guage,
McCain suddenly got a sound coming out of computer his
speakers..
“You Got Air..”
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While practicing, McCain got a picture of Senator Gramm on his monitor screen telling him,repeatedly :” You are a whiner”
Angry McCain couldn’t get rid of the frozen picture, then he used his Cell. phone to call Senator Gramm:
MCCAIN: “How dare you do this to me,I’m supposed to be your friend”?
GRAMM replying: “What letters did you push on your keyboard?”
MCCAIN replied: “I guess, I pushed R and N letters”.
GRAMM: “see, That’s Ralph Nader behind this virus, and not me…”