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McCain’s gets confused about the conflict in Georgia.

Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) begins his Wall Street Journal op-ed titled “We Are All Georgians” with a warning about the seriousness of the recent conflict between Georgia and Russia:

For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last week must have come as a startling wake-up call.

Perhaps McCain is giving himself a wake-up call, since just yesterday he seemed to have thought that “stark international aggression was a thing of the past.” In a press conference with reporters, he said, “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations.” Watch it:

McCain has spent the past few days blaming Russia for the conflict in the region. As the Jed Report points out, however, McCain is now backtracking and saying that he “will decide in subsequent days…who was right and who was wrong.”

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68 Responses to “McCain’s gets confused about the conflict in Georgia.”

  1. raynman Says:

    I think that the McCain Campaign would be best served by contacting the Disney people and have them create an audioanimatronic version of McCain that would stay on message and then put the real McCain in a room somewhere.

    He can't go a day without putting his foot in it. If the so called liberal media were doing their jobs, this guy would be the laughing stock of Washington.


  2. dareme Says:

    "Nations don't invade other nations". This of course will come back to bite him in the ass. The U.S. policy of late is anything but peaceful, we have moved into the "perpetual war" phase of our empire. Does history teach us nothing?


  3. 5th Estate Says:

    Oh that's just McCain doing the 'maverick' thing. 'Loose cannon on deck' and all that.
    However we haven't reached the point in McCain's movie where he is forced to turn-in his badge, and I'm running out of popcorn.


  4. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    any bets on how long, (if ever) it will take before someone in the "liberal media" confronts mccain with the glaring hipocracy of his statement?

    all it takes is a simple:

    "didnt we do that to iraq?"

    "wern't you making jokes about doing that to iran"?


  5. misshusseinmolly Says:

    McCain has been spun around so much that he's obviously dizzy. And has been for awhile.

    What boggles the mind is that there are a lot of people out there who support him. Must be because the "liberal media" are still reporting about what a maverick he is and completely ignoring the fact that he's become a blithering idiot in his desire to pander.


  6. A Patriot Acting Says:

    "McCain is now backtracking and saying that “will decide in subsequent days…who was right and who was wrong.”"

    "Subsequent days"? I know McCain doesn't do e-mail but how does he get his neocon talking points, by carrier pigeon?


  7. 5th Estate Says:

    Chocolate Jesus Says: any bets on how long, (if ever) it will take before someone in the “liberal media” confronts mccain with the glaring hipocracy of his statement?

    I'll take that bet!Do you accept Zimbabwean dollars or Iraqi Dinars?


  8. larkohio Says:

    So according to McCain, it was okay for the US to invade Afganistan and Iraq, but Russia shouldn't invade Georgia. Okay, seems illogical to me, but that's just me.


  9. Keith H. Says:

    He's suffering from the early stages of Old-timers.


  10. tom Says:

    “McCain gets confused about the conflict in Georgia”

    Actually, you could shorten up that headline and still be accurate -- "McCain Gets Confused".


  11. DRxJ Says:

    What McCain should have said is:
    For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last five years must have come as a startling wake-up call.


  12. getplaning Says:

    The Bush Regime and the Israeli-occupied American media are heading the innocent world toward nuclear war.

    Back in the Reagan years the National Endowment for Democracy was created as a cold war tool. Today the NED is an agent for US world hegemony. Its main function is to pour US money and election-rigging into former constituent parts of the Soviet Union in order to ring Russia with American puppet states.

    The Bush Regime used the NED to intervene in Ukrainian and Georgian internal affairs in keeping with the neoconservative plan to establish US-friendly and Russia-hostile political regimes in these two former constituent parts of Russia and the Soviet Union.
    Every country is tired of war except for the US. War, including nuclear war, is the neoconservative strategy for world hegemony.

    The entire world, except for Americans, knows that the outbreak of armed conflict between Russian and Georgian forces in South Ossetia was entirely due to the US and its Georgia puppet, Saakashvili. Americans, alone in the world, are unaware that the hostilities were initiated by Saakashvili, because Bush, Cheney and the Israeli-occupied American media have again lied to them.

    John McCain is right on board with this new cold war, as he is still stuck in the cold war mindset of the mid to late 20th century. Unfortunately, Barack Obama is buying the narrative of the neoconservative media and is also critical of Russia. Russia sees what the western game plan is, and has many options including military ones. The Bush Regime owns no Russian currency that it can dump. The Russians own US dollars. The Bush Regime owns no Russian bonds that it can dump. The Russians own US bonds. The US can cut Russia off from no energy supplies. Russia can cut America’s European allies off from energy.

    Worried that Israel will attack Iran? This is far more serious.


  13. Uncle Ho Says:

    Instead of listing things that McIdiot is confused on(everything), it would be easier to list things which he is NOT confused on(nothing).


  14. tom Says:

    He’s suffering from the early stages of Old-timers.

    Don't think so. This is the only area of experience where McNumbNuts is actually well-advanced.


  15. Tweedster Says:

    Hey trolls, let's hear the defense on this one?

    Anyone else as excited as I am to watch the debates? I'm thinking of getting a TiVo just the be able to record them.


  16. Gimme a Break Says:

    Who am I? Why am I here?


  17. Tweedster Says:

    creusa1 Says:

    larkohio Says:
    ————————————————————-
    So according to McCain, it was okay for the US to invade Afganistan and Iraq, but Russia shouldn’t invade Georgia. Okay, seems illogical to me, but that’s just me.

    August 14th, 2008 at 10:39 am
    _____________________________________________________

    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?

    Oh Creusa, it's a little thing called context. Once we already involved ourselves in Afghanistan - which we put on the back burner after ole Georgie lost interest in capturing bin Laden - and the Afghan/Pakistani border is the area which many high-level al Qaeda "officers" are thought to operate.

    Condemning another country for involving themselves in the same kind of mistakes we have made by invading a sovereign nation - Iraq, who, if you remember, was not at all responsible for 9/11 - is a slightly different kettle of fish.

    Then again, you don't see issues as multi-faceted and based on surrounding events with your partisan blinders on.


  18. McWars Says:

    I think TP is giving McCain the benefit of the doubt in using the word 'confused.' McCain is just being McCain.


  19. 5th Estate Says:

    I'll take 'The Undead" for one hundred dollars Alex!

    TREBECK: Answer: "A slow-moving nemesis of brains, prone to incomprehensible utterances and violence"

    What is a zombie?

    TREBECK: Nooo...I'm sorry; it's John McCain.


  20. Tweedster Says:

    CORRECTION

    Oh Creusa, it’s a little thing called context. Once we already involved ourselves in Afghanistan - which we put on the back burner after ole Georgie lost interest in capturing bin Laden - and the Afghan/Pakistani border is the area which many high-level al Qaeda “officers” are thought to operate, it's too late to simply backtrack. Don't bother trying to draw some parallel with planned withdrawal from Iraq - we never should've been there in the first place. Then again, Obama didn't vote to go to war against Iraq either...unlike McCain


  21. hussein toasterhead Says:

    creusa1 Says:

    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?

    August 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am
    ______

    Your point being?


  22. katy Says:

    Georgia War a Neocon Election Ploy?

    Posted on Aug 12, 2008

    October comes early? Sen. John McCain and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili.

    By Robert Scheer

    http://www.truthdig.com/ report/ item/ 20080812_georgia_war_a_neocon_election_ploy/

    ...

    see also: democratic underground...
    i saw a few items trying to connect the dots...


  23. Tweedster Says:

    #
    hussein toasterhead Says:

    creusa1 Says:

    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?

    August 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am
    ______

    Your point being?

    There is no point toaster...Creusa displayed yesterday that facts, sequence of events, context, nuance etc. don't play a role in her thinking process.

    She's completely grasping at straws here.


  24. Wayne Says:

    McCain is now backtracking

    When did he ever stop backtracking?

    Good ol' McCain, if you don't like his positions now just wait a few hours, it will change.
    That is the only thing consistent about McCain.

    I have lost track again, is he on the flip or the flop now?


  25. Paul W Says:

    Perhaps McCain is giving himself a wake-up call, since just yesterday he seemed to have thought that “stark international aggression was a thing of the past.” In a press conference with reporters, he said, “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations.”

    Some of the statements McCain makes may appear to be the result of senility but are far more likely the product of authoritarianism where invading other countries is wrong only when someone else does it. Kind of like when Bush talks about democracy and the rule of law.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  26. hussein toasterhead Says:

    Tweedster Says:

    There is no point toaster…Creusa displayed yesterday that facts, sequence of events, context, nuance etc. don’t play a role in her thinking process.

    She’s completely grasping at straws here.

    August 14th, 2008 at 10:54 am
    ______

    Oh, I know... I just wanted it to explain this black or white conception of foreign policy in its own words. I find it morbidly fascinating that conservatives are so completely unable to accept complexity and nuance in foreign affairs, science, economics, and even basic morality.


  27. mary Says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:
    I find it morbidly fascinating that conservatives are so completely unable to accept complexity and nuance in foreign affairs, science, economics, and even basic morality.

    Worth re-posting!!! You certainly have a way with words.


  28. jb Says:

    McCain clearly understands the vote getting power of Jingoistic strutting and sabre rattling....nobody pays attention to details, its ok to lie and twist facts....nobody except lowly peons are held to the law. That McCain is actually a serious candidate shows how sick this nation is.


  29. Wayne Says:

    creusa1 Says:
    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?

    Whats the matter, cresote? You don't believe in actually going after the Real Al Qaeda that is still in Afghanistan?

    Were you actually fooled by Bushco claiming he invaded Iraq to fight AlQaeda ( after the WMD thing proved false )?

    Silly troll.


  30. Wayne Says:

    Note to the RNC:
    Your trolls really suck. Can't you guys find any with an IQ higher than the room temperature?


  31. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    McCain confused!?! Bah hahahahahaha!

    The senile old fart probably thinks that Al Qaida is a Mexican rock band and Iraq is a model of a Camaro.

    I mean really between the Sunni Shia thing, Al Qaida training extremists, The Iraq/Afghanistan border comment, Clueless about sovereign nations (okay to attack Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan but not Paskistan because it is a sovereign nation) this man is days away from getting lost in a closet somewhere....


  32. Bobwurst Says:

    Is it any wonder that Russia is messing around with Georgia? Georgia has been championed by bush and McCain. Russia is enjoying showing the world how weakened we've become and it will be a bonus (for russia) if they can bully us into sending in troops so we can be further damaged. We spent the better part of the 80's giving weapons and training to the Afghan mujehadean (sorry about the spelling), effectively helping to kill soviet soldiers and ultimetly drive the soviet union into bridge abuttment of history, don't think they've forgotten that.


  33. Bobwurst Says:

    Uncle Fester Lurks says:
    this man is days away from getting lost in a closet somewhere….

    Don't worry, his boy Lindsay will be there to help him find the door...


  34. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    Trolls have no logic, they don't have answers to solutions, they are incapable to think for themselves which is why they listen to FUX NOISE and Rush Limpballs to get their talking points. If FUX or Rush ever went off of the air, the trolls would dry up and vanish from blogs.


  35. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    Hee hee, I get your meaning Bobwurst!!!


  36. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    I would like any troll to answer the following question:

    How do you expect our country to pay for George W. Bush's two failed wars?
    A-Raise everyones taxes
    B-Continue to borrow from communist China
    C-Pass the debt on to future generations of Americans
    D-You won't answer the question because you've never received any talking points from the right on how to answer this question.


  37. misshusseinmolly Says:

    creusa1 Says
    August 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am
    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?
    __________________________________________________________

    Obama stll hasn't forgotten about 9/11, about Osama bin Laden, and his Al Qaeda (not to be confused with AQI, which had nothing to do with 9/11), while Bush apparently has. This is his only reason for redeploying troops -- to take care of this objective.

    This can't be compared to Russia's invasion of Georgia, unless Russia was merely trying to apprehend terrorists who had attacked their homeland. If that's the case, I must have missed it.


  38. Wayne Says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    Uncle Fester Lurks says:
    this man is days away from getting lost in a closet somewhere….

    Don’t worry, his boy Lindsay will be there to help him find the door…

    Or LIEberman will grope check his "bearings" again, declare them ok, then lead him to the door.


  39. misshusseinmolly Says:

    hussein toasterhead Says
    August 14th, 2008 at 10:58 am
    I find it morbidly fascinating that conservatives are so completely unable to accept complexity and nuance in foreign affairs, science, economics, and even basic morality.
    __________________________________________________________

    Simple concepts for simple minds. This is why GOP campaigning consists of boiling everything down to a 10-second (or less) soundbite, whether it makes sense or not. Remember these from their hit parade?

    "You're either with us or against us"
    "We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here"
    "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"
    "Mission accomplished"
    "Death tax"
    "Liberal media"
    etc. etc. etc.


  40. upside99 Says:

    I find this another mind-numbing example of McDepends constant swinging back and forth on a very important issue.

    And here his major adviser/lobbyist is a Georgian marketeer and ol' Johnny Boy still can't find a consistent stance. (Maybe he should ask Larry Craig how to make it 'wider'.)

    Repugs,

    Is this the best you can do?? And can't you find any trolls to come out and defend your man? SHEESH!


  41. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    The conflict is perfectly clear to me. Georgia started it (stupidly) and Russia escalated it. For the U.S. to now be sending in the military to aid in humanitarian efforts will result in a further escalation because, sooner or later, either a Russian or American soldier will be killed by the other. If our military was truly being used for humanitarian purposes only, we'd have troops in Darfur and Zimbabwe. And it's not in order to protect "a fledgling democracy." It's about oil and gas.


  42. pbg Says:

    So the presidential candidate with supposed foreign policy chops shoots his mouth of, makes inflammatory tub-thumping statements, takes sides in the conflict--and then scuttles back, making embarrassing generalizations that undercut his own country's positions.

    I am so tired of this clown campaign.


  43. tarazan Says:

    McCain spent the last few days blaming Russia for the conflict in Georgia.
    ----------------------------------
    McCain to Lieberman: "Do you think we can also blame Bin Ladin for all of what's happening now in Georgia"? !!


  44. 5th Estate Says:

    My understanding of this situation is that Saakashvilli launched his own "shock and awe" campaign against an Ossetian seperatist militia. What triggered his actions I have no idea, but the method was indiscriminate and typical of an authoritarian mindset.

    With recent Bush administration political support (including military advisors) Saakashvilli might have had the confidence to launch such offense. He might also have noted that US support might change significantly in January 2009 and this perhaps was his window of opportunity before time ran out.

    The Russians went to the Ossetian's aid which on the face of it seems a humanistic response given that the Georgian forces used unguided rockets on Ossetia just as Hezbollah and the PLO have done against Israel, and in seemingly more high tech but equally indisrcriminate fashion, as Israel used cluster bombs on Lebanon where the US not only ignored their use on urban areas but re-supplied Israel with those precise munitions.
    The Russian drive beyond the recognized region of Ossetia to Gori is perhaps of some interest in that Stalin was an Ossetian who grew up there. That may be a pyschological factor that might affect certain attiudes amongst those with power.

    Anywhoo the whole mess looks like a mix of local and global geo-politics in which emotional rhetoric will be employed and accepted by the press over any substantive information. Meanwhile as usual dead an injured civilians will provide the fodder for the arguments of the powerful who ultimately are extremely unlikely to be held to account .


  45. upside99 Says:

    pbg Says:
    So the presidential candidate with supposed foreign policy chops shoots his mouth of, makes inflammatory tub-thumping statements, takes sides in the conflict–and then scuttles back, making embarrassing generalizations that undercut his own country’s positions.

    I am so tired of this clown campaign.

    pbg,

    If we had a balanced media and even reasonable intelligence in the voting community, there would be no campaign, clown or otherwise; Obama would be ahead by 40-50%.


  46. Bobwurst Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    creusa1 Says
    August 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am
    Hasn’t Obama condemned Russia’s actions in invading Georgia, while at the same time calling for a “redeployment” of troops to Afghanistan and even into Pakistan if necessary?
    __________________________________________________________

    Obama stll hasn’t forgotten about 9/11, about Osama bin Laden, and his Al Qaeda (not to be confused with AQI, which had nothing to do with 9/11), while Bush apparently has. This is his only reason for redeploying troops — to take care of this objective.

    This can’t be compared to Russia’s invasion of Georgia, unless Russia was merely trying to apprehend terrorists who had attacked their homeland. If that’s the case, I must have missed it.

    Do you deliberatly miss every point are are really this stupid? MissHusseinMolly's point is preciesly the point that we were attacked by terrorists operating out of the area that borders Afghanistan and Pakistan while Russia has no similar reason for invading Georgia. That is why Obama condemed Russia's actions. You are an embarrasment to trolls everywhere. Do you live in Michelle Bachman's district, cuz that would explain a lot.


  47. hussein toasterhead Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    Simple concepts for simple minds. This is why GOP campaigning consists of boiling everything down to a 10-second (or less) soundbite, whether it makes sense or not. Remember these from their hit parade?

    August 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am
    ______

    Oh yeah. And soundbite politics is something that liberals have considerable difficulty with, getting caught in "global test" and "I voted for it before I voted against it" moments. Even someone as rhetorically-gifted as Senator Obama is still struggling with it. I don't know what the cure is, unfortunately. If they dumb down and bring their campaigns down to the GOP low-information level, they'll be accused of "flip-flopping."


  48. hussein toasterhead Says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    Do you deliberatly miss every point are are really this stupid? MissHusseinMolly’s point is preciesly the point that we were attacked by terrorists operating out of the area that borders Afghanistan and Pakistan while Russia has no similar reason for invading Georgia.

    August 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am
    ______

    Um... Did you just accuse MissMolly of missing her own point?


  49. Bobwurst Says:

    Hussientostedhead, no, I accused cretinusa1 of missing MissMolly's point. MissMolly is one of the more cogent posters here. I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused with my lack of posting/typing skills.


  50. hussein toasterhead Says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    Hussientostedhead, no, I accused cretinusa1 of missing MissMolly’s point. MissMolly is one of the more cogent posters here. I’m sorry for any confusion I may have caused with my lack of posting/typing skills.

    August 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am
    ______

    Fair enough, but cretinusa1 hasn't responded to MissMolly yet. Her comment at 11:18 was responding to cretinusa's comment at 10:42. Cretin hasn't responded since then.

    I'll just go ahead and assume you're posting from one of those parallel universes in which the time arrow is running in a different direction. :)


  51. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    Actually the reason why we aren't in Darfur is because that is China's domain. We can't really mess with a country that we are indebted to


  52. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    Bobwurst, please, please do not mention the name of Michele Bachmann here! I just had a nasty little e-mail war with my republican sister who idolizes that nutjob!


  53. misshusseinmolly Says:

    hussein toasterhead Says
    August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am
    I don’t know what the cure is, unfortunately. If they dumb down and bring their campaigns down to the GOP low-information level, they’ll be accused of “flip-flopping.”
    __________________________________________________________

    The problem is that the progressive audience is a bit more sophisticated (not to be confused with "elitist"), and they demand more substance than cheap soundbites. Especially if the issue is a complex one, and most issues are.


  54. Uncle Fester Lurks Says:

    So why is the so called liberal media attacking Barack Obama 24/7 on anything and everything? Could it be that they fear that he will take away their tax cuts so that they will have to begin to pay their fair share or is it because Obama actually represents a change to the status quo in DC?

    The McCain campaign whines because their candidate gets less weekly coverage than Barack does. Hey I know how about the media start covering the Keating 5 scandal or McCain's ties to lobbists who are linked with dictators or McCain's extra marital affair or what an elitist he is or that he got where he is today much like Bush by riding the coat tails of his admiral father and grandfathers names or that he flip flops more than a fish out of water or that a fund raiser was thrown for him in London by that evil prick Baron Rothschild....I'm all for this coverage on Insane McCain.



  55. Bobwurst Says:

    Hussientoastedhead, time has arrows in your universe? In my universe time is a hazy mist that pulses, like the aurora borialis...


  56. Buckie Boy Says:

    Grampy McSame says - My friends back in the day we all liked Georgia, they had great peaches, lots of them, but Russians have potatoes, not peaches, so the Russians wanted some peaches to make Peach Vodka, so they attacked Georgia to get those delicious peaches, so I think we should put the hate on Russia, but now I am told that Georgia was throwing peaches at the Russians first, and that ruined the peaches so Russia couldn't use them to make Vodka, now I know all about Vodka, yes, Vodka and some of those pills Cindy stole will give you a buzz like you have never known, give Cindy enough and she will dance Topless for you, that c**t, I like vodka in my flip-flops while I'm pandering to someone while my lobbyist watch Cindy dance Topless at BBQ's...give me some more pork and beans.

    You didn't think the situation through Gramps, you jumped to conclusions and now realize what a fcukup you are, and of course the MSM is gonna ignore this and give you your regular pass on being wrong again.


  57. pete Says:

    It's a bit off topic but, If you haven't seen it, Colmes actually dares to ask why Edwards' infidelity is a deal breaker while McSpin is given a free pass. Watch the Reichwingers lose their ability to form complete sentences.

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/13/hannity-pwns-himself-over-john-mccains-own-affair-double-standard-applies-to-edwards/


  58. SpoxLogic Says:

    Can you imagine the damage McCain would've done had he really been POTUS over the past week? At first he was all saber-rattling Mr-tough-guy, and now he is back tracking. If he was Prez and did this, what kind of message would he be sending to the rest of the world?
    Of course the MSM won't ask him that or even mention it. Experience my a$$. He lacks both experience AND judgement!


  59. pete Says:

    Of course the MSM won’t ask him that or even mention it. Experience my a$$. He lacks both experience AND judgement!
    August 14th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    I've said it before, and I'll say it often, McSpin has become a reckless radical who has been unbalanced by his lust for the Presidency.


  60. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >Do you accept Zimbabwean dollars or Iraqi Dinars?

    I do take pesos, however, I'm afraid all Iraqi Dinars have been reserved for the "heres some money please shop shooting at us" fund set up by general betrayus...


  61. Leftside Annie Says:

    Crap. This isn't news. That crazy old barstid gets confused EVERY day.


  62. SP Biloxi Says:

    "McCain’s gets confused about the conflict in Georgia."

    Part Deux. I will repeat again. From Grandpappy's McSame's
    op-ed,“We Are All Georgians” along with his statement from yesterday “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations,” he is not fit to be the Commander-in-chief to this country. And all of the daily of prune juice and Geritol will not help McCain's constipated brain. He is simply nauseating. A nice retirement home of his choosing is recommended with Friday night bingo games.


  63. sectionop92 Says:

    This was edited out of the op-ed:

    "We must make sure that the battle of Atlanta does not come to our shores."


  64. hussein toasterhead Says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    Hussientoastedhead, time has arrows in your universe? In my universe time is a hazy mist that pulses, like the aurora borialis…

    August 14th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
    ______

    Oh, you crazy string theorists with your quantum mechanicals... :)


  65. Cats r Flyfishn Says:

    Don't tell me... McCain is confused, again? How can this be happening to the great Reich wing hope?


  66. katy Says:

    too bad this is a dead thread...

    Rachel explains everything you need to know about the Russian invasion of Georgia, and everything you need to know about U.S. involvement there

    http://airamerica.com/content/maddow-us-role-georgias-war


  67. kwaayesnama Says:

    If we never went into Iraq looking for non-existent weapons of mass destruction there would have been no need for a surge.

    If we never went into Iraq there would be over 4,000 beautiful Americans alive today.

    If we never went into Iraq thousands of young Americans would not have their lives ruined with horrific wounds.

    If we never went into Iraq our economy would not be in shambles.

    If we never went into Iraq in the last five years we would have been able to find the people responsible for 9-11.

    If we never went into Iraq we would have been able to concentrate on economics our own nation.



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