During a question-and-answer session with Walter Isaacson today, Sen. John McCain said Guantanamo Bay is “one of the nicest places in the world to live in.” Later in the interview, McCain was asked about the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Boumediene v. Bush declaring that Gitmo detainees have a right to challenge their detention in civilian court. McCain had previously derided that decision as “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country,” but today stepped back from that comment:
ISAACSON: But you called that the worst decision in history?
MCCAIN: No I didn’t. No, no– Sometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole.
Watch the video (via Progressive Accountability):
In 2003, McCain said, “A serious process must be established in the very near term either to formally treat and process the detainees as war criminals or to return them to their countries for appropriate judicial action.”
When will he be officially declared too senile to be president?
August 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pmHe reminds me of my very aged f-in-law.
“one of the nicest places in the world to live in.”
Not if I am in a 3′ by 3′ room and only taken out to be waterboarded!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:43 pmISAACSON: But you called that the worst decision in history?
MCCAIN: No I didn’t. No, no–
yes you did you liar.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:44 pmIssacson and the Aspen Institute sure know how to embarras themselves by having this idiot speak there. Never mind that Mccain is an embarressement to the Country every time hew opens his mouth.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmSometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole
And sometimes, he’s given to a little forgetfulness, anger and self-righteousness.
What a jerk.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmI wonder if Gitmo is as nice as Aspen in the middle of summer? I think McCain should go there himself to find out.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:46 pmTo Gitmo, I mean. He’s already been to Aspen twice this summer. Time for a change of seanery methinks.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:50 pmMcCain’s flippant remarks and vain attempts at humor are going to get us into serious trouble if he’s elected. Every time he does this he has to backtrack and someone from his campaign has to correct the world’s interpretation. He’s on the world stage and crackin’ jokes. “Oh, he’s folksy”. Well, do us a favor, McCain, and quit taking your show on the road. And one more thing while I’m giving advice; you do not speak for the American people when there is an international crisis.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pmOr a lot of hyperbole… depending on whether or not his meds have kicked in yet…
August 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pmFlip McCain: I didn’t say it.
Flop McCain: What I said was hyperbole.
Now there’s something to poll – would we rather have a President who lies about what he says or one who is “prone to hyperbole”? “I didn’t order the nuclear bombing of Iran” vs. “Sometimes I lose my temper. As Dick Cheney would say: ‘So?’”
August 14th, 2008 at 9:53 pmGitmo is one of the nicest place to live in.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:55 pmShall we say ..a ‘five star hotel’ ?
Makes ya just happy that he could end up being the next president of the USA. Maybe we should outsource the job to India, we could save a bundle and it would probably make more sense.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:55 pmThen get your sorry ass over there, McSame.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:59 pmI can’t believe that mccain is such a batsh#t candidate – absolutely nuts. While dur chimpfurher was totally unqualified for office (alcoholic/cocaine addict that went AWOL), the MSM successfully “catapulted the propaganda” by presenting him as a real candidate in 2000.
Now we are seen an insane man that obviously has at least the early signs of dementia – even the MSM cannot cover this up, though they are doing their best.
Of course, anyone that thinks obama stands for meaningful change is not paying attention either – perhaps the elite behind these candidates know that they need a democrat to be the fall-guy for the mess chimpy and the repugs have made.
We are in trouble – a choice between these 2 bozos is bad news.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pm# 11, tarazan Says:
Gitmo is one of the nicest place to live in.
Shall we say ..a ‘five star hotel’ ?
Of course, you’re not speaking in hyperbole, are you?
August 14th, 2008 at 10:05 pmA choice between a hyperbolic bomber or a sane, highly intelligent and capable man constrained by political conditions.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:06 pmUnbelievable that a former POW would say this.
And inexcusable.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:11 pmHussein McCain – are you paying attention?
Obama sold out Chicago’s poor by giving away massive amounts of government monies to private interests, even though they created substandard housing, thousands of units are no longer even inhabitable.
He sold us out on FISA, despite promises to the contrary
While he used to campaign against Hillary on the “Iraq war was wrong and a mistake”, he now supports continuing the war crimes and crimes against humanity.
He advocates endless wars in the Middle East and actually takes the same stands as mccain and bush
Instead of providing any meaningful leadership or answers to high concentrations of poverty, unemployment, and dysfunctional schools in urban communities with large populations of African Americans, he plays the same “personal responsibility” card that the repugs use, blaming victems of structural poverty
Obama does not support meaningful healthcare reform. His plan is nothing but handouts to large healthcare providers and insurance companies
Obama has restarted the lies that Social Security is in “crisis”, indicating he will restart the bamboozle tour that started chimpy’s political downfall after stealing the 2004 election
Sorry, but people that think this is positive change and “yes we can” are not paying attention.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pmAnother Joe Says:
Believe what you want, you obviously do and I’m sorry for you that you are not able to see any further into the realities than you seem to be able to see.
In the meantime lets just evaluate who really supports the troops since mccain is such a big flag waver and all.
Who really supports the troops. Click on it at your own risk righties.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pmSorry, but people that think this is positive change and “yes we can” are not paying attention.
And the alternative is worse still. But go ahead, and vote your conscience.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pmFred, did you hear anything about Obama saying Social Security was in crisis?
I must have missed that one.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:48 pm.
Senator Johnny McTorture said:
… Then go and be the President of Gitmo!
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August 14th, 2008 at 10:50 pmbarfly Says:
Joe’s just saying things that he has been told are true. He doesn’t need proof. It would be nice if he had posted links so we could have a discussion with him about it but his objective was simple and required no facts.
I hope he clicks on my link. Some of us are vets and know.
Nothing has changed since nam.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmHyperbolese….?
I like it. :)
August 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmQuick! Get McCain to a hyperbolic chamber, stat!
He’s gonna blow!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmbarfly – you can google this yourself – all mainstream news items.
I am not your monkey – disagree if you want, but don’t demand that I provide links to easy-to-find information that a child can locate with their favorite search engine.
Yes – the choices are awful, do you wonder why that is and how we get such terrible representatives?
Perhaps one reason is the tendency of some to Pretend that candidates stand for our hopes and ideals when then facts show otherwise.
Another reason is the inability of some people to see past tweedle-dum and tweedle dee, constantly demonizing one candidate and while putting the other on a pedestal.
Google the facts I presented earlier – easy to find sources, judge them yourselves, vote your conscious, but respectfully, I am not your monkey.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pmGoogle the facts I presented earlier – easy to find sources, judge them yourselves, vote your conscious, but respectfully, I am not your monkey.
Your sure acting chimpish. I never asked you a thing, dimwit.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:00 pmI am not your monkey – disagree if you want, but don’t demand that I provide links to easy-to-find information that a child can locate with their favorite search engine.
Have another drink, and calm down. I never asked you for a friggin’ thing, so back off.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmAnother Joe,
You’re making the assertions — back ‘em up, or get your lazy ass the f uck outta here.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmAnother Joe Says:
You have to provide proof. Otherwise you are just bullshitting…..sorry. That’s just the way it is.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pmI provided you with a link joe….how about your comments on that.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:04 pmMcCain: Bomb Iran! Bomb Russia! Bomb Everything!
Sometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole.
And there are actually people in this country that will vote for this two-faced, forked tongued jerk.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:06 pmZoey,
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015
Parse it for us, please.
How did Obama act to preserve your inalienable Right to pursue Justice should ANY president order you surveilled,
WARRANTLESSLY?
What does it mean should he become the next DECIDER in this matter, now having a record to have been against it before he was for it?
How does his vote to strip Americans of this inalienable Right to pursue Justice support a position of “CHANGE” should he be elected into the Office of President of the U.S.A.? Is this any different than what Bush wished of Congress?
You can not prove that the next president will have a Congress capable of rewriting legislation to undo the votes cast by the Senate.
You can not prove that the next Congress won’t sabotage the necessary legislation needed to undo this unconstitutional act and force the next president to VETO said legislation.
You can not prove that the next president just won’t VETO good legislation to protect his authority to WARRANTLESS surveil you… and there still won’t be a darn thin you can do about it.
So, how is this “CHANGE” that you can believe in? When in fact, the only thing we know is that Americans no longer have a avenue of redress for grievances… and Obama’s vote does not prove otherwise.
McTorture will have the same position should he be elected, too with the exception that the Senior Senator forgot to show up and place that vote.
What…? Will Obama issue a signing statement to override Congressional legislation? And that’s “CHANGE”?
Or will he wait for the Supreme Court to rule this aspect of the Law, UNCONSTITUTIONAL? … Thus indicting his vote as a vote against the Republic.
IMPEACHMENT is the ONLY answer to solve this dilemma.
WHY IS T.P. SILENT ON IMPEACHMENT?
Now,
please understand that I’m not attacking you or your character, rather the position that Obama supporters are holding. “CHANGE” is not “CHANGE” if the next Decider is placed into an Office UNCHANGED!
p.s.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:28 pmI was for Obama before he was against my inalienable Right to pursue Justice!
Not old, stupid.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:30 pmMax-1 Says:
You are just fixated. You have made up your mind based on one thing. You are short sighted.
If you don’t think Obama is different from bush and mccain then you just don’t want to see it and nothing anyone can say will change your mind.
you will have to see it with your own eyes. I’m sure you understand that things will continue as they are under mccain. There is a chance you are wrong about obama but we are not wrong about mccain so you have to grow up and be a man. Decide.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:40 pmMax-1 Says:
August 14th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
What can I say, Max? I was pretty gung-ho for Obama at first. I’m totally disappointed that my vote for Obama has devolved from true confidence that this was the man who would bring us the change we so desperately need — to “not McCain.”
My rudeness to Another Joe was because of his laziness in not supporting his assertions, not because he doesn’t support Obama.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 pm“McCain: Gitmo is ‘one of the nicest places in the world to live in.’”
Memo to Grandpappy McSame: Gitmo is not Disneyworld! Who is the clown who writes McCain’s speeches?
August 14th, 2008 at 11:58 pmDepends on which side of the cage you are on. I hear Korea is a beautiful country too.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:00 amFred,
Short sighted is believing a man who has lied to us about preserving our longstanding Birth Rights. “See, you can fool me once, you just can’t get fooled again.” Now this man promises to fix his mistake… “Read my lips…”
Farsighted is seeing the impact this lie has upon the future of our longstanding Birth Rights.
The reach of these decisions and flip/flops(read lies) is damaging to the Republic. However, for the time being(read: short sightedness) this man promises to TRY to do otherwise.
The person who sees things shortsightedly is the man who believes that he won’t get fooled… AGAIN!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:00 amI can’t believe that McCain would imply that a detention camp, regardless of where it’s located, would be a desirable place. I understand that North Vietnam was located in the tropics, but I doubt that he’d want to return to the Hanoi Hilton.
But since McCain speaks so glowingly of Gitmo, may I suggest that as a retirement place for him and the missus? No? I didn’t think so.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:03 amMax-1 Says:
Grow up man, they all lie to get in office. Obama and mccain are both lying about things.
weigh it and decide and move on. There is nothing else to do right now.
You think Kennedy didn’t say some things that made us wonder……remember he won by a very narrow margin.
Look at the overall charactor of your choices…..whatcha gonna do? I know what I will do and whining because my choice is not perfect just doensn’t help me move us all in the direction I want to see us move.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:06 amThe folks at Gitmo haven’t had this good an endorsement since Cheney said detainees were “living in the tropics.”
Of course Dick, Liz and Mary didn’t stop at Guantanamo after their Middle East tour. After Easter in Old Jerusalem, Dick’s ticker needed a jump start
But now that John McCain’s given his endorsement, maybe this years Republican National Convention can move its most climatic session to Guanatamo Bay. If its a nice place to live, it must be a heckuva place for a nomination!
Orange jump suits, feeding tubes, and that nightly urine shower…
August 15th, 2008 at 12:06 amZooey,
(sorry, that second “O” I sometimes forget)
Sure, Joe needs to deliver, not rest on the adage, “Google it”. A sure sign that he’s being intellectually lazy. Now, with that said, who’s up for an occupation of Afghanistan? This too, I have my reservations on as Obama seeks to shift the troops from Iraq to Afghanistan… and keep the “WAR OF TERROR” alive.
Sorry, I may be a bit pessimistic, but then again, reviewing what these last 8 years have delivered and how the Senate has continually avoided accountability for injustices perpetrated on a lie(read: GOT CENSURE?) I have grave doubts about the future of the Republic.
IF someone can fix this major F-up we are in, great! More power to ‘em. But until America is capable of addressing it’s unique global policing presence and the effect it has on humanity, things aren’t gonna change.
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August 15th, 2008 at 12:16 amMax,
I can’t say I really disagree with anything you’re saying. At this point, either McCain or Obama is going to be president — it’s a fact.
We know what McCain will bring, so that leaves Obama. I do have hope. Not sure why, but I do.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:22 amNo worries about the missing O, Max.
There are no actual Os in my real name. :-)
August 15th, 2008 at 12:23 amFred,
Advise you can believe in. “grow up”
LOL
So, you support people who LIE to you?
Is LYING an honorable thing to support?
“weigh it and decide and move on. There is nothing else to do right now.” At least Bil-doh O’Liely is more direct, “Shut up!”
What can people do?
VOTE third party! Stop rewarding LIARS! Like Bush does with his Medals of Honor and job promotions.
Jeepers, no wonder America is screwed… the People are COWARDS! “Yes ‘um. I’ll vote the way you tells me to.” SLAVES to the system.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:23 amWell, then, let’s sure as hell not send Johnny Mac to that dump at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I have more respect for a war hero that that.
Johnny, pack your bags, you’re going to Gitmo!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:37 amWhat is your stand on the issue, Sen. McCain:
Hang them high at noon or send the innocent home with some sort of public accountability in-place?
Because kicking the can to both sides of the aisle and blaming it on your own “hyperbole” is playing games with people’s lives…and that is about as bad as it gets, and YOU SHOULD KNOW IT FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:40 amF uck off, RHF. You are pathetic.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:51 amF’ing A! Some of you sound so hateful toward Obama that you’re going to, what…throw your vote behind Nader, Gilligan, “choose your third party choice -here-”?
Seriously…by going that route, all you’re doing is throwing your vote away because you can’t come to grips with what’s better for America and not yourself. Stop putting the ego in your vote and vote for everyone else who could be affected by your vote! It is truly the selfish who think they know everything.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:56 amsectionop92,
I didn’t know that voting for “other” candidates was unacceptable in America. So, then why vote at all if we no longer respect the fact that we’re supposed to be living in a Democratic Republic.
Cowering people to vote for the prescribed candidate is tantamount to Authoritarian Rule. You know, an antithetical principle to what America USED TO stand for.
You do know that the Iraqis were cowered to vote for Saddam… NO? You know, the prescribed candidate of “choice”. Albeit, the only candidate that was ever to be “THE” choice. And no, I am not equating anyone to Saddam, just using him as an example of what Americans are supposed to possess a certain amount of disdain for what he created…
I’ve been hearing this same song and dance from LOYALISTS for over two decades now… The meme never changes, only the names of the candidates are changed to protect the identity of “The Party”!
And yes, I’m really pissed at what the People have tolerated from their Government. And until more people wake up and get pissed, we ARE doomed to keep repeating this cycle in four years from now, and four years there after…!
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August 15th, 2008 at 1:48 amMcCain changes his mind about so many things so often, it’s a small wonder he hasn’t denied ever marrying Cindy yet….
August 15th, 2008 at 2:41 amFor a former POW to even THINK these thoughts really underlines the mental damage McCain must have suffered in 5 1/2 years.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:23 amSo MacCocaine… Do us a favor and get yourself Waterboarded and check in Guantanamo Bay’s PRISON!
August 15th, 2008 at 4:43 am…and stay there like some inocent people are. That is, without any possible contact with the outside world, outside US’s legal spectrum and with some TORTURE section Alla USA’s style. You know, those techniques discussed by Condi Rice with Top USA official in secret meeting in the WH! Do us a favor and disappear for 5 years!
August 15th, 2008 at 4:48 amA little hyperbole??????
Hoo, Boy.
Have you ever noticed that when John McCain is lying, he shifts his head and upper body constantly, also the eyes are blinking rapidly. That video is very revealing.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:27 amIf it’s so nice there, then I think it’s time for Johnny, Georgie, Dickie, Condi, Joey, and the rest of the war criminals to go live there. The End.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:06 amLet me guess, you’re a typical Hillary Clinton supporter:
Overweight
Over 55
Bitter
Not a feminist
Whiskey swilling, gun toting, duck hunting neocon
I bet. It’s you and your kind who will be blamed for Johnny McTeleprompter winning in 2008 if that happens! Yep. Dumbasses.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:09 amHas Johnny McTeleprompter told his supporters yet that he and his wife Cindy will make some financial/business deals with the Cuban government? Probably not.
Right wingers love those Commies behind closed doors.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:10 amRHF…Hillary is a corporate whore, always has been. Please, if you are not going to vote or if you want to vote for McSame, just go away and quit wasting everyones time here.
RHF = Retarded Hillary Fanatic
August 15th, 2008 at 8:06 amJohn Kerry Says:
Why don’t you ask ANY prisoners in ANY jail in the U.S. if they’d trade places for Gitmo in a second!!!!!!!! It’s a damned country club that some people would PAY to live!
I’ll pay you to go live there JK. All we need is to have you admit to being an enemy combatant. I would say you are already a traitor/Bush supporter….Oh, and the pay…my tax dollars already pay for the Gitmo Hilton.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:12 am“Gitmo is ‘one of the nicest places in the world to live in.’”
I’m sure some major befuddled idiot in Vietnam 40 years ago had similar things to say about the Hanoi Hilton
August 15th, 2008 at 9:00 amJohn Kerry Says
August 15th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Why don’t you ask ANY prisoners in ANY jail in the U.S. if they’d trade places for Gitmo in a second!!!!!!!! It’s a damned country club that some people would PAY to live!
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Prisoners in American jails would prefer to be in a place where they are subject to waterboarding, snarling dogs menacing them, no pillows or blankets, and getting smacked around all the time?
Yep — sounds like paradise. Why aren’t we selling timeshares there?
August 15th, 2008 at 9:03 amThen why don’t John and Cindy trade one of their 8 or so homes for a spot in Gitmo?
August 15th, 2008 at 9:15 amThen why don’t John and Cindy trade one of their 8 or so homes for a spot in Gitmo?
Maybe all the cells with an ocean view were taken!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:43 amIsn’t “LITTLE HYPERBOLE” an oxymoron?
August 15th, 2008 at 10:43 am#61 Wow, John Kerry. My local country club doesn’t have isolation rooms, put people in stress positions for hours on end, or force feed using plastic tubes.
At the CC there’s actually a difference between a urinal and a shower. My golf game might take a beating, but not my body.
Maybe you should arrange tours of the “dammed country club”, since people will “pay to live.” That sounds like the entrepreneurial thing to do, for those who believe in their product. But you’d better screen the guest list for UN Commission on Human Rights members. Recall they couldn’t get the full tour.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:53 amMcLame: “Iran is the worst country in the world and I will nuke them!”
Iran: launches pre-emptive attack based on McCain’s threat.
McLame: “I don’t know, why Iran attacked us. Sometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole.”
August 15th, 2008 at 11:22 amI wonder how a president John “I never said that” McCain would deal with a confrontation with Russia.
February 1 2009
MCCAIN: “My friends, if Russia doesnt stop threatening its neighbors the US will see no other option than to respond to Russian aggression with military force!”
February 2 2009
August 15th, 2008 at 12:09 pmPUTIN: “McCain speaks of Russian threats and aggression when it is he who threatens to attack Russia!”
MCCAIN: “No I didnt.”
PUTIN: “Yes you did I saw you on Youtube yesterday!”
MCCAIN: “No no. Sometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole.”
PUTIN: “‘A little hyperbole’!? Like when you joked about bombing Iran?”
MCCAIN: “No no I never said that. The fact is I was a POW in Vietnam for 5 years.”
He’s not saying Gitmo is a nice place to live, he’s saying that the conditions at Gitmo are not the issue.
We are taking him totally out of context, I don’t know what the point of doing that is.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pmHi John Kerry:
August 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pmSorry you had to run. Seems you can never stay for more than just a plop.
The way McCain rhapsodizes about Gitmo, I think I might take my next vacation there.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:11 pmC’mon Maverick John; If Gitmo really Was “one of the nicest places in the world” your 2nd wife would have bought you a home there, too.
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