By his own speech Obama has said he think’s it’s counter productive to impeach and only offered up a possible investigation of the bush administration..

By his own speech the day after Israel’s saber ratteling on Iran and bush’ backing Obama said “”I back Israel 100%”.

I watched on C-Span the entire vote of FISA, I counted the vote’s as they went down and late after it was obvious it would pass he voted with 67 other’s and betrayed the constitution, people and country…Not even a token vote for his supporter’s…Shit..In my day and now you dance with them that brought you..One surely doesn’t hitch a ride with some one else and sell out your date.

“No polatician is going to do everything you want”..? What the hell is that Fred.? All I expect is they keep their oath of office, follow the law and protect the constitution, people and country…I’m sorry but I think you need to direct your comment’s to Obama as I did instead of me…I haven’t broken the law, oath of office or the constitution and with my vote I still won’t….

Yep! I voted for Carter both time’s..Truth is he was to good for the country at the time…I voted for Clinton both time’s also…Neither were saint’s but to my knoledge neither voted against the constitution…..

Have a good day Fred…..I send you Blessings

You say:

In closing I must say in all my life I never voted for someone who went against the country, constitution and her people as far as I knew and I’m not doing it now

They have all done and they will all do things we don’t agree with. Hell, Carter caused part of his own problem by not getting rid of the Nixonites that were left over from the nixon admin and they stabbed him in the back. He thought he could trust them because they were Americans, they are not.

You knew that and you still voted for Jimmy so why is this so much different?

No politician is going to do everything you want them to do and many times the compomises necessary to get the things they are working for will cost us all in different areas, that’s politics.

The American people are not going to go to the streets. This will have to be worked out through the system that exists.

You have given up so why are you even talking about it. Why does it even matter to you any more. You say it’s over no matter who gets elected and you know that either Obama or mccain will be elected so what is your point?

I don’t believe that Obama is an enabler. I think he is a politician and I look forward to real change when he gets elected.

I don’t have a grudge against Obama for christ sake, I worked my ass off for some one like him to have this oportunety for many year’s…Equal right’s, civil right’s, women’s right’s…And I am not a Dem hater, I am merely pointing out a huge herd of jackasses in this administration that are not dem’s at all but rep. block and tackeler’s….105 in the house and 68 in the senate to be spacific and those are just the one’s that showed their true color’s when they betrayed us on the FISA bill..I don’t hate any one, it’s not a witch’s way..I do however think people should be held accountable for their action’s and I also think any one I vote for should atleast hold their oath of office which is to protect the constitution from all enemy’s foreign and domestic…I expect them to do what I would do, defend my country and the law’s….

What I don’t get is the crazy attitude the left and right both have that you must follow party line and vote for these flawed people that are showing you before they are in office just what they intend to do….Why on earth do you want to vote for some one who knew they had enough vote’s and still went against we the people and the constitution and voted for FISA.? Why did everyone here post huge post’s they wanted everyone removed from office that voted for FISA and then jump on the band wagon to give Obama a free ride to put him in office.? Where is the clear thinking on that.?.Where was the outrage.? I worked my finger’s to the bone sending out email’s to every one…Oh and BTW I was on Obama’s site and blogged along with thousand’s of other’s localy to do the right thing…Well, I did get good result’s from my local representative’s but not from Obama…Finelly I dropped him and posted my reason’s for leaving, his vote on FISA..

Hell, I’m not mad at any one’s choice but I sure do question the thinking…By everyone’s thinking here after someone breake’s into my house,steal’s everything, is caught by the police, out on bail, come’s back to my house to rob me again I should give them the key’s.? That’s what it look’s like to me and that’s what you are planning, right?..Well I’m not buying it and I won’t be a part of giving them the key’s either…But you go right ahead and follow the group think..

Be mad, take it personal if that pleases you, I’m not the problem or the “bad guy” and it will not be my one vote that causes a loss it will be Obama himself that may do that or the huge reich winged, backed by pretend dem’s that will accomplish it….The country is a lot worse off than even you realize and only a huge shift will bring it back…..It’s a done deal Fred, your gonna get what you are voting for another enabeler…..So stop being mad at leftie’s like me that say enough already….After 46 year’s of follow the leader I want people that follow the rule of law and the constitution…

In closing I must say in all my life I never voted for someone who went against the country, constitution and her people as far as I knew and I’m not doing it now, but you go ahead and do as you choose..Blessings

two words for those nader and other haters of the democratic party: Supreme Court. That should be enough to wake you up to the realities of what are at stake right now.

Witch, your disparaging of Obama is unjustified. You just want want everything you want and nothing less will do. I think your support for Nader is a little unsettling and it makes your case seem weak. Actually you have no case except quit, go home and die.

Americans are not going to support you in a 3rd party run this year.

I understand that you think you are standing up for what is right but you are wrong on this one.

So now you’r theory is use a thief to catch one,,Ignorance is all over that one and I’m sure glad I dumped all but a chosen few good dem’s, that is after all, all that remain.. ……Blessings

The US Constitution is broke because chimpy striped the gusto out of it. The Constitution won’t ever be the growing commonsense document for the people it once was. The scars are permanent and deep. Your Constitution has keiloes all over it.

Besides, the very foundation of the US Constitution is racism.

Pertaining to FISA: How are we suppose to catch the crooks if we don’t have the same leverage as the crooks? We must use their crimes to prove they have broken the law and return our rights one by one.

Sen. Obama is very intelligent and cares deeply about the state of the US. I trust him way more than mcchimpy.

Are you a hill supporter?

Nadar

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HAHAHAHA

Fred made a comment in a post if any one of us that don’t agree have the ball’s when Obama win’s and prove’s us wrong we should apolagize…Well I own a cute little pair of brass one’s and I can tell you little if anything is going to change when he get’s in….He has already shown you by speeche’s and vote’s exactly what he will and won’t do…Flowery speeche’s and big turn out’s will not change what he and the dem’s did over FISA. and many other thing’s…With that he lost my vote and 5 of my buddie’s..When, if ever he prove’s he can take that back, reverse it and accomplish more than pumping up an audiance with fancy word’s that day I will apolagoze and not one day before..

I’m sorry I think you all have gone totaly mad..I’m for polatician’s holding their oath of office to protect the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic…

Your plan is to vote one more enabeler into office..When are you all going to get it.? It’s not me that’s being worked it’s you….Jeebos, I wasent for Hillery but atleast she didn’t vote against the constitution and neither did my representative’s….

It would appear all my 46 year’s of being a bleeding heart libral and devoted dem were for nothing…There seem’s to be a total disconnect with our constitutionm, the law and people willing to say …ENOUGH…….BLESSINGS

I’m not 100% comfortable with any party, but the dems come damn close to my beliefs.

And yet, Ovama is doing just fine with millions, not just 10, contributing to his campaign.

You and I have gone down this road many time’s, I refuse to make a right turn…I will not now or ever vote for someone who could of voted against FISA, knowing it is against the constitution and still voted for it, just like palosi….

You don’t need to lecture me any more, in fact if everyone would do what I am doing we could fix this huge mess this election…With Nadar, Mckenna or even Kucinich as a write in we would change it on a dime….Blessings

I have a feeling though that you have just taken the bait that nothing can ever be done and this is just the way it is. Guess who’s idea it is for you to feel that way?

You ignore the obvious to make your point. Marie makes a valid point, one with which you cannot argue. You want to make one political vote which we all thought was wrong to make the case that all dems are bad and just like the republicans…..I’m not buying into that because it’s not true.

Love ya witch but you are not helping anyone, not yourself or your principals or our country by having nothing but negative assessment of people who will change the direction we are heading.

You are by proxy acting on behalf of the republicans. Didn’t you learn anything?

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If you have a legitimate and viable option, offer it, but do not undermine our efforts or you are on thier side as far as I am concerned.

Politics is evolutional, and some are not yet able to evolve past the cynicism they still feel from the Bush years – which have yet to end.

People are more cynical now than they were in 2000 for obvious reasons but they were cynical then too and tried to say the same thing: The democrats are just like the republicans and it is just not true.

They cost us before and if they keep it up they will cost us again. Get on board and help us change things rather than scoffing at our efforts and in your rage…supporting the wrong side.

And you just want to throw them all out and vote in someone who what “doesn’t have a chance to get elected this cycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Your pipe dream will sink us again just as it has in the past.

Find a viable candidate, one that can get votes and maybe you will get some support. It aint going to happen this time around and I refuse to let you destroy our chances to change who is in power.

You insist it will be the same as the republicans, I insist that you are being foolish to belive and propagate that misconception.

Why are things better for the average guy under a Democrat than a Republican?