DMI poll: Majority of middle class supports progressive policies.
By on Aug 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
DMI poll: Majority of middle class supports progressive policies.
Today, the Drum Major Institute released its first annual survey on the Middle Class and Public Policy, showing a “broad consensus” among middle class Americans in support of progressive policies like universal health care:
The poll also found that 78 percent of the middle class wants to expand SCHIP while 68 percent want to allow employees to be represented by a union when a majority of co-workers sign cards requesting representation.
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Why does the American middle class support socialism and hate what America stands for?
August 19th, 2008 at 3:54 pmWhy do Americans hate America?
August 19th, 2008 at 3:55 pmDrum Major Institute?
Did the chymp graduate from there?
August 19th, 2008 at 3:56 pmI hope someone who can read tells McStain about this after he wakes up from his nap.
On second thought, I hope they don’t.
PEACE
August 19th, 2008 at 3:56 pmIt’s only important as to what the top 1% of income hoarders think. Disregard this poll in the name of elistism.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:58 pmDarryl, if you’re still around, should our fish and bread be universal, or should they be for-profit?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:00 pmThe choices:
>Nationalize healthcare and include everyone.
>Ration heathcare and people will be treated like pieces of equipment- if they are too old and in bad shape, too bad.Not worh putting more money into it.
>Eliminate outrageous compensation packages for the CEO’s and eliminating extravagant benefits they receive.
None of the choices are good, but is there a better alternative?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:03 pmCompassion? Justice? Bah, Humbug! Are there no Prisons; are there no Workhouses?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:05 pmSeriously, Charles Dickens aside, how is it that the Repubs, Especially McInsane is So out of touch with most of America?
Impeach Pelosi, Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
My favorite dumb ass simplified sentence is “Freedom isn’t free”.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:08 pmIs this the middle class as defined by McCain as making less than 5 mill a year ?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:08 pm/NARF!
Do they do a Troll Poll?
I suppose it would be a waste of time, given the fact they don’t read much, lack comprehension skills and only say what they’re told to say.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:10 pmSpeaking of Trolls, one just puked in aisle #9…
Maybe TP ordered the ACME_Troll.
I’m pretty sure it was delivered in a package wrapped in brown paper and tied up with twine. Probably had “ACME” stamped on the side too, and was delivered in a big truck that stopped in the desert, dumped the box, and sped off again in a cloud of cartoon dust.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:12 pmPretty Wil.E, Ralph!
August 19th, 2008 at 4:15 pmDid ACNE just post something?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pmcoherent?
Every other Civilized Industrial Country has figured out a Way to Cover the health care NEEDS of its citizens.
AND at a much LOWER Cost, per capita, than in America.
It is STUPID to think America is too STUPID to figure out a way to cover ALL its Citizens too.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pmACME_Democrat Says
August 19th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
How about this Progressive idea; Allow every family to have any size house they want and any type of car they choose at an affordable price they choose.
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Except that “progressive” idea isn’t one I’ve ever heard before — no real progressive would suggest such a thing.
I assume you are trying to equate basic health care with luxury homes and luxury cars, which is really kind of stupid. Basic health care is a necessity and should be a fundamental right in any human society, like basic education. Luxury homes and luxury cars are not necessities (it can be argued that having some kind of roof over one’s head is a necessity, but the issue of homelessness is for another thread).
Your argument makes about as much sense as equating oxygen with plasma televisions. Try again.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pmWho are the 25% who do not want affordable health insurance and the 29% who do not want paid medical leave?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pmYes.
No.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:20 pmmissmolly, do you really want to invite the troll to try again?
I know it’s only polite, but what are the chances that he’ll be able to hit the ball this time? It’s gotten so that if he hits the tee and knocks the ball to the ground, we have to pretend that he got a hit.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:23 pmshoeless Says
August 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Who are the 25% who do not want affordable health insurance and the 29% who do not want paid medical leave?
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25%…25%…hmmm, let me see…what’s familiar about that number?
I would venture to guess this quarter of the population are the Bushco kool-aid drinkers. If Bush told them that jumping off a cliff was good for them, they’d be lining up like lemmings.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pmralph the wonder llama Says
August 19th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
missmolly, do you really want to invite the troll to try again?
I know it’s only polite, but what are the chances that he’ll be able to hit the ball this time? It’s gotten so that if he hits the tee and knocks the ball to the ground, we have to pretend that he got a hit.
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We do? Can’t we still grab the ball and tag him out? The thing we have to remember is that when a troll is up at bat, there’s really no need for outfielders. Everybody can move in, since no hit will really go very far.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:27 pmThose are pretty big percentages of Americans preferring progressive government.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:27 pmMissHMolly @#17 ~ be careful, the ACME_Coyote troll will choose the plasma TV over the oxygen…
On second thought, maybe that’s a freakin great idea!!!
August 19th, 2008 at 4:37 pmMy favorite dumb ass simplified sentence is “Freedom isn’t free”.
“There’s a hefty fcukin’ fee”
August 19th, 2008 at 4:40 pm-Team America
I guess we have a better idea of where the true center of America stands.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pm====================
Fool you thrice. Helloooooo?
Middle class might be a large group, but it’s still a subset. What does it prove?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pmMarie Says
August 19th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Those are pretty big percentages of Americans preferring progressive government.
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This is because progressive ideas are common sense ideas, despite the righties attempting to equate them with communism, socialism, Marxism, and even fascism.
If people are hungry enough, they’ll take food whether it’s in “progressive” packaging or not. If they aren’t all that hungry, they are more likely to fall in line with whatever ideology they have been taught to subscribe to.
Take health care, for example. According to this chart, 75% of the country thinks a national plan that provides affordable insurance to all is an excellent or a good idea. Many people say so because that’s a much better deal than they are getting right now — either no health insurance, insurance that’s crippling their budget, or insurance they are in danger of losing.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pmshoeless: Who are the 25% who do not want affordable health insurance and the 29% who do not want paid medical leave?
Well a proportion of them would be politicians who are happy to accept both for themselves but so far have refused to provide the same beneficial programs to everyone else.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pmprabhata Says
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Middle class might be a large group, but it’s still a subset. What does it prove?
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Your post uses English words, but it’s still nonsense. What does it prove?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pmJust when thought you had a daunting task in front of you — worrying about your head becoming stuck at the bottom of the barrel in reaching down to respond to the trolls — Missmolly quickly takes care of them problem with her unusually clear and concise postings – all while keeping her head above water.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pmHey ACME,
What we are spending on the illegal occupation of Iraq would more than pay for health care for everyone in this country. Bu that isn’t as sexy as having an illegal and immoral occupation, is it?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:51 pmWhoop — Correction #31 Just when you thought you had..
August 19th, 2008 at 4:54 pmWow. Who knew there were so many socialist commies in Amurka???
/snark
August 19th, 2008 at 4:55 pmThe trolls knew all along, Annie.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:57 pmprabhata Says:
Middle class might be a large group, but it’s still a subset. What does it prove?
It proves they are the heart of America.
Yikes, is there something that isn’t just a number to you wingnuts?
August 19th, 2008 at 4:58 pmprabhata Says:
Middle class might be a large group, but it’s still a subset.
Of likely voters.
Oops.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:02 pmWell, Ralph…I despair for America sometimes.
I heard this statistic somewhere, that only 18% of Americans could identify a picture of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and it just sort of whumped it home to me that we are truly a nation of morons.
So many Americans want decent health care, good government — and yet they *still* vote against their own interests by voting for Republican elitists like Bush and McSame…
*sigh*
FSM help us.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:04 pmSink in, everybody! Sink in! Can’t hit!
August 19th, 2008 at 5:04 pmHere iks a song I found on YouTube
August 19th, 2008 at 5:05 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaRPdzZ46Bc
New America
And 56% think Bush/Cheney are War Criminals, and 72% think Bush/Cheney have committed Impeachable Crimes.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:06 pmSink in, everybody! Sink in! Can’t hit!
Throw one at his knees!
August 19th, 2008 at 5:07 pmRALPH! Can I just lay down out in center field?
August 19th, 2008 at 5:07 pmLeftside Annie Says
August 19th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
So many Americans want decent health care, good government — and yet they *still* vote against their own interests by voting for Republican elitists like Bush and McSame…
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It’s because we have so many people who will buy into the rhetoric from Karl and his gang — that it’s better to shoot yourself in the foot than to vote for a scary elitist black secret Muslim.
These people would willingly starve to death before accepting food if the righties told them the food would make them fat.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:11 pmThe middle class supports progressive politics because progressive politics supports the middle class.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 19th, 2008 at 5:18 pmTotal*
*includes independents
WTF?
If they included independents in their totals, then why not include their breakdowns, as well?
Something smells.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:20 pmAnd the further I dig, the worse it smells. I’ve been to the site, and read the full report, but I can’t find mention of the methodology or sampling used to reach these conclusions.
Perhaps someone better at sleuthing such wonk could locate, and post it?
August 19th, 2008 at 5:34 pmBarfly – Michael Moore’s book “Dude Where’s My Country” (I think) contains all kinds of documented statistics that bear out this study.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:46 pmThe stench is now reaching boiled sauer craut pungency.
I’ve checked the site again, and the link contained inside the actual PDF doc, kins back to the press release.
TP, didn’t you guys do any research on this “report?”
August 19th, 2008 at 5:47 pmSorry Annie, but this one smells cooked. Why no methodology?
August 19th, 2008 at 5:48 pmTp’s going to look awfully silly in the blogosphere, if it gets around they’re posting polls that play hide-and-seek with theirsampling and methodology.
It should have either been at the front of the press release, or at the end of the actual report. Nada on both.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:52 pmAnd where are all the “learned lights” to discuss and dissect the matter, when I mention a poll that supposedly validates the progressive worldview, is extremely light on substance?
I don’t want to drop an H bomb, but it sure seems strange.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:58 pmOh, another posted gay thread.
Much more important to slap Daryll around.
Please continue.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:01 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
This is because progressive ideas are common sense ideas, despite the righties attempting to equate them with communism, socialism, Marxism, and even fascism.
If people are hungry enough, they’ll take food whether it’s in “progressive” packaging or not. If they aren’t all that hungry, they are more likely to fall in line with whatever ideology they have been taught to subscribe to.
Take health care, for example. According to this chart, 75% of the country thinks a national plan that provides affordable insurance to all is an excellent or a good idea. Many people say so because that’s a much better deal than they are getting right now — either no health insurance, insurance that’s crippling their budget, or insurance they are in danger of losing.
Oh, I see another reason some are treating this thread like Chernobyl: they’re already on record politically extrapolating about it’s supposed substance.
I guess we lowly-paid blue-collar workers will have to do the heavy intellectual lifting as well.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI mean, how many posters on this thread are highly-degreed and intellectually accomplished individuals, yet failed to question that little asterisk? And you guys are supposed to be on the ball?
It is to laugh.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:16 pmGood points, barfly. I agree with you — we should be just as intellectually rigorous when considering information that reinforces our views as we considering stuff that clashes.
Good work.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:40 pmI talked with a young man the other day who is paying $800 a month for health insurance for his wife, child and himself. I think that’s outrageous. I have no health insurance and no job and although I’m looking for a job, the field I work in (social services) is paying half what it did just three years ago. This appears to be “The Shock Doctrine” at work.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pmThat is a poll that has some promise .
Get Obama on the stump with its messages……….
August 20th, 2008 at 4:16 amwhat’s scary is the relatively low level support for children of illegals to stay “if they go to college or serve in the military provided they don’t have a criminal record”. Good to see that xenophobia is alive and well! Lou Dobbs message is getting through to the proletariat.
August 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm