Comments on: DMI poll: Majority of middle class supports progressive policies.

By: blackjackshellac

blackjackshellac — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:58:04 +0000

what’s scary is the relatively low level support for children of illegals to stay “if they go to college or serve in the military provided they don’t have a criminal record”. Good to see that xenophobia is alive and well! Lou Dobbs message is getting through to the proletariat.

By: Robt

Robt — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:16:13 +0000

That is a poll that has some promise .

Get Obama on the stump with its messages……….

By: green

green — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:40:57 +0000

I talked with a young man the other day who is paying $800 a month for health insurance for his wife, child and himself. I think that’s outrageous. I have no health insurance and no job and although I’m looking for a job, the field I work in (social services) is paying half what it did just three years ago. This appears to be “The Shock Doctrine” at work.

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:40:22 +0000

Good points, barfly. I agree with you — we should be just as intellectually rigorous when considering information that reinforces our views as we considering stuff that clashes.

Good work.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:16:08 +0000

I mean, how many posters on this thread are highly-degreed and intellectually accomplished individuals, yet failed to question that little asterisk? And you guys are supposed to be on the ball?

It is to laugh.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:13:10 +0000

misshusseinmolly Says:

This is because progressive ideas are common sense ideas, despite the righties attempting to equate them with communism, socialism, Marxism, and even fascism.

If people are hungry enough, they’ll take food whether it’s in “progressive” packaging or not. If they aren’t all that hungry, they are more likely to fall in line with whatever ideology they have been taught to subscribe to.

Take health care, for example. According to this chart, 75% of the country thinks a national plan that provides affordable insurance to all is an excellent or a good idea. Many people say so because that’s a much better deal than they are getting right now — either no health insurance, insurance that’s crippling their budget, or insurance they are in danger of losing.

Oh, I see another reason some are treating this thread like Chernobyl: they’re already on record politically extrapolating about it’s supposed substance.

I guess we lowly-paid blue-collar workers will have to do the heavy intellectual lifting as well.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:01:00 +0000

Oh, another posted gay thread.

Much more important to slap Daryll around.

Please continue.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:58:53 +0000

And where are all the “learned lights” to discuss and dissect the matter, when I mention a poll that supposedly validates the progressive worldview, is extremely light on substance?

I don’t want to drop an H bomb, but it sure seems strange.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:52:20 +0000

Tp’s going to look awfully silly in the blogosphere, if it gets around they’re posting polls that play hide-and-seek with theirsampling and methodology.

It should have either been at the front of the press release, or at the end of the actual report. Nada on both.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:48:26 +0000

Sorry Annie, but this one smells cooked. Why no methodology?

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:47:23 +0000

The stench is now reaching boiled sauer craut pungency.

I’ve checked the site again, and the link contained inside the actual PDF doc, kins back to the press release.

TP, didn’t you guys do any research on this “report?”

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:46:30 +0000

Barfly – Michael Moore’s book “Dude Where’s My Country” (I think) contains all kinds of documented statistics that bear out this study.

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:34:59 +0000

And the further I dig, the worse it smells. I’ve been to the site, and read the full report, but I can’t find mention of the methodology or sampling used to reach these conclusions.

Perhaps someone better at sleuthing such wonk could locate, and post it?

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:20:37 +0000

Total*

*includes independents

WTF?

If they included independents in their totals, then why not include their breakdowns, as well?

Something smells.

By: Paul W

Paul W — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:18:40 +0000

The middle class supports progressive politics because progressive politics supports the middle class.

http://progressiveworldreview.com

By: misshusseinmolly

misshusseinmolly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:11:52 +0000

Leftside Annie Says
August 19th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

So many Americans want decent health care, good government — and yet they *still* vote against their own interests by voting for Republican elitists like Bush and McSame…

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It’s because we have so many people who will buy into the rhetoric from Karl and his gang — that it’s better to shoot yourself in the foot than to vote for a scary elitist black secret Muslim.

These people would willingly starve to death before accepting food if the righties told them the food would make them fat.

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:07:20 +0000

RALPH! Can I just lay down out in center field?

By: barfly

barfly — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:07:04 +0000

Sink in, everybody! Sink in! Can’t hit!

Throw one at his knees!

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:06:20 +0000

And 56% think Bush/Cheney are War Criminals, and 72% think Bush/Cheney have committed Impeachable Crimes.

By: Salmon Dave

Salmon Dave — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:05:28 +0000

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