Comments on: House report rips Bush’s ‘unsubstantiated’ use of signing statements. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:05:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: flatustheelder http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5174412 flatustheelder Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:08:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5174412 "Secrecy News"? Isn't that an oxymoron? <a href="www.flatustheelder.com" rel="nofollow"></a> “Secrecy News”? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

]]> By: po http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172848 po Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:27:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172848 "this week"? no day this week? such fanfare. but it is a great week to release such a report. appears to be getting plenty of press (at least from secrecy News). but then there's the olympics, vp chatter, conventions, congress home for . . . month (must be nice). one last time for old time's sake - now you have your report - what are you going to do about it?!? anything? Anyone? thought not. “this week”? no day this week? such fanfare. but it is a great week to release such a report. appears to be getting plenty of press (at least from secrecy News). but then there’s the olympics, vp chatter, conventions, congress home for . . . month (must be nice).

one last time for old time’s sake – now you have your report – what are you going to do about it?!? anything? Anyone? thought not.

]]> By: Klem Kiddilehopper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172838 Klem Kiddilehopper Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:07:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172838 Ratass, The sooner all the members of the Republican Party and all their sycophantic butt-kissers are sent to Iraq, to live out the rest of their wretched lives (hopefully I wish for a long,long life),the better for the entire world! Ratass,
The sooner all the members of the Republican Party and all their sycophantic butt-kissers are sent to Iraq, to live out the rest of their wretched lives (hopefully I wish for a long,long life),the better for the entire world!

]]> By: Robt http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172812 Robt Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:00:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172812 Although I believe it is good to have this on record and someone investigate it. It only becomes inflamitory to me because I have seen no action on taking legal stances that lead into the court for any indictment(s) that may or may not exist... Although I believe it is good to have this on record and someone investigate it. It only becomes inflamitory to me because I have seen no action on taking legal stances that lead into the court for any indictment(s) that may or may not exist…

]]> By: jkd7854 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172784 jkd7854 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:25:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172784 Gosh, yeah, that Congress must really mean business this time. Ahh, they said the practice has generated confusion into Wow. I'm excited. Now that means that no more stories have to be printed again about that one. Congratulations Congress and the media for not doing your job, again. Gosh, yeah, that Congress must really mean business this time. Ahh, they said the practice has generated confusion into Wow. I’m excited. Now that means that no more stories have to be printed again about that one. Congratulations Congress and the media for not doing your job, again.

]]> By: moonsha http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172686 moonsha Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:07:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172686 Signing Statements should banned period. The executive is essentially overstepping the constitutional authority given to the legislative branch to make law. Signing Statements should banned period. The executive is essentially overstepping the constitutional authority given to the legislative branch to make law.

]]> By: Blame Canada http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172676 Blame Canada Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:55:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172676 Obama signing statement #1 - "The United States of America officially declare the Republican party to be a terrorist organization." I guess unchecked Presidential powers could be good if used by the right people. Oops, that sounded a little to much like a Republican. Obama signing statement #1 – “The United States of America officially declare the Republican party to be a terrorist organization.”

I guess unchecked Presidential powers could be good if used by the right people. Oops, that sounded a little to much like a Republican.

]]> By: rastaman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172530 rastaman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:29:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172530 I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT SIGNING STATEMENTS OBAMA COMES UP WITH......PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE ILLEGAL TO BE REPUBLICAN I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT SIGNING STATEMENTS OBAMA COMES UP WITH……PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE ILLEGAL TO BE REPUBLICAN

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172466 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:49:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172466 "..but barring a national catastrophy it will be hard to galvanize the American public behind such a scheme ." PNAC writing pre 911 on the need to invade the middle east inorder to control China and the developing world and establish American global hegemony “..but barring a national catastrophy it will be hard to galvanize the American public behind such a scheme .”
PNAC writing pre 911 on the need to invade the middle east inorder to control China and the developing world and establish American global hegemony

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172460 had enough Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:44:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172460 <em>House report rips Bush’s ‘unsubstantiated’ use of signing statements.»</em> enough with the ripping...How about an impeachment? House report rips Bush’s ‘unsubstantiated’ use of signing statements.»

enough with the ripping…How about an impeachment?

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172452 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:39:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172452 The deaths of atleast 108 torture victims who never lived to see their Habeas corpus rights restored and in obvious violations of the geneva conventions and basic morality doesn't rise to ther level of a blow job either ! The deaths of atleast 108 torture victims who never lived to see their Habeas corpus rights restored and in obvious violations of the geneva conventions and basic morality doesn’t rise to ther level of a blow job either !

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172448 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:36:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172448 Maybe the American Bar Association would like to weigh in on Constitutionality of passing a law ( FISA ) to excuse violations of the law retroactively. WHO IS ABOVE THE LAW ? Maybe the American Bar Association would like to weigh in on Constitutionality of passing a law ( FISA ) to excuse violations of the law retroactively.
WHO IS ABOVE THE LAW ?

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172444 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:32:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172444 SO many laws ... so little justice . SO many laws … so little justice .

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172442 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:31:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172442 The task force said its report and recommendations “are intended to underscore the importance of the doctrine of separation of powers. They therefore represent a call to this President and to all his successors to fully respect the rule of law and our constitutional system of separation of powers and checks and balances.” The task force said its report and recommendations “are intended to underscore the importance of the doctrine of separation of powers. They therefore represent a call to this President and to all his successors to fully respect the rule of law and our constitutional system of separation of powers and checks and balances.”

]]> By: cage free brown http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172438 cage free brown Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:29:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172438 NOW they tell us! Ralphie, is this about your cat? (rude gesture in the air with hand) NOW they tell us!
Ralphie, is this about your cat?
(rude gesture in the air with hand)

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172436 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:26:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172436 Among President Bush’s signing statements, the task force noted refusals to carry out laws involving "Congressional requirements to report back to Congress on the use of Patriot Act authority to secretly search homes and seize private papers, [and] the McCain amendment forbidding any U.S. officials to use torture or cruel and inhumane treatment on prisoners.” American Bar Association’s task force on signing statements Among President Bush’s signing statements, the task force noted refusals to carry out laws involving “Congressional requirements to report back to Congress on the use of Patriot Act authority to secretly search homes and seize private papers, [and] the McCain amendment forbidding any U.S. officials to use torture or cruel and inhumane treatment on prisoners.”
American Bar Association’s task force on signing statements

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172434 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:23:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172434 “From the inception of the Republic until 2000, Presidents produced fewer than 600 signing statements taking issue with the bills they signed. According to the most recent update, in his one-and-a-half terms so far, President George Walker Bush ... has produced more than 800.” From the American Bar Association's task force on signing statements “From the inception of the Republic until 2000, Presidents produced fewer than 600 signing statements taking issue with the bills they signed. According to the most recent update, in his one-and-a-half terms so far, President George Walker Bush … has produced more than 800.”
From the American Bar Association’s task force on signing statements

]]> By: JMOHR http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172412 JMOHR Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:10:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172412 And? So? Is this not like Obama's promise to use Chicago rules during the campaign? All sound and fury, signifying nothing. And? So? Is this not like Obama’s promise to use Chicago rules during the campaign? All sound and fury, signifying nothing.

]]> By: questioneverything http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172408 questioneverything Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:04:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172408 But making the law yourself is fine if you are GWB. Pelosi needs to recognize a constitutional crisis when it happens. It may not be a crime (like killing children on the white house lawn or stealing their lunch money), but taking over all 3 branches of government is an impeachable offense in my book. Impeachable offenses do not have to be proven crimes before the impeachment hearings proceed. In fact, a violation of the oath of office is not necessarily criminal, but impeachable nonetheless. Of course, Pelosi hasn't necessary read the constitution. As long as she gets hers, it's all good. But making the law yourself is fine if you are GWB. Pelosi needs to recognize a constitutional crisis when it happens. It may not be a crime (like killing children on the white house lawn or stealing their lunch money), but taking over all 3 branches of government is an impeachable offense in my book. Impeachable offenses do not have to be proven crimes before the impeachment hearings proceed. In fact, a violation of the oath of office is not necessarily criminal, but impeachable nonetheless.

Of course, Pelosi hasn’t necessary read the constitution. As long as she gets hers, it’s all good.

]]> By: Paul W http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/comment-page-1/#comment-5172402 Paul W Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:01:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/bush-signing-statements/#comment-5172402 <em>Secrecy News notes that the House Armed Services Committee released a report this week criticizing the Bush administration’s extensive use of signing statements, saying that the practice has generated confusion, undermined oversight of defense policy, and is often “broad and unsubstantiated.”</em> Do they not get it? Bush has absolutely no respect for democracy or the rule of law. Virtually everything he's done since getting elected has proven that fact making this "report" nothing more than a statement of the obvious. http://progressiveworldreview.com Secrecy News notes that the House Armed Services Committee released a report this week criticizing the Bush administration’s extensive use of signing statements, saying that the practice has generated confusion, undermined oversight of defense policy, and is often “broad and unsubstantiated.”

Do they not get it? Bush has absolutely no respect for democracy or the rule of law. Virtually everything he’s done since getting elected has proven that fact making this “report” nothing more than a statement of the obvious.

http://progressiveworldreview.com

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