Hogwash.

Prove it.

When you YOU proven ANY of the ignorant hivemind tripe you have spewed out on this site? Its pretty simple if Iraqs major export were artichokes we wouldnt be there. All of the Bush LIES about Iraq were proven wrong. There was its about WMDS, Weapons of Mass Destruction we have to get them they litter Iraq like so many cigarette butts. WE have to…Ok no WMDs but 9/11 we have to get them because of 9/11…Ok so they werent behind 9/11 but but Al Queda they were cooperating with Al Queda, they would give them the WMDS they didnt have we had to stop them… Ok so NO co-operative ties with Al Queda. Give me a minute, FREEDOM yeah, thats the ticket, its about freedom we are going to STAY and make them free even THOUGH about 80% of them want us gone we have to make them free of course not free enough to tell us they dont want our help but…ARE YOU A COMPLETE MORON? Its simple. They LIED about Iraq flat out lied no two ways about it WHY do you lie about the reasons for a war? Because the American people wouldnt have been all that happy with…We need to get Exxon and Mobile the oil contracts that Iraq just isnt going to let us have so we need to invade and IMPOSE our corporate will on them. You really arent very bright are you Cheezy?

Isn’t it amazing how the invisable hand thing worked out?
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It has work infinately better than any of the various forms of Maxism which have enslaved hundreds of millions of people thoughout the past century.

Show me one place – one country – where Marx’s theories, put into practice, have created prosperity or freedom.

You are really REALLY stupid Cheezy. Why would he bother? LEt me aquaint you with a term called the FALSE DICHOTOMY. Are unfettered capitalism with no regulations or outright Marxism the ONLY two alternatives? Why no they arent so your stupidity here is just a basic logical fallacy. Since you are CLEARLY too stupid to understand basic logic. Hire a reasonably bright five year old to look up the term and explain all the big words to you. MORON.

I surrender to you superior intellect.

I guess you would just about have to. I am sure you say the same thing to your goldfish

I just called into question CAP’s plan for strategic redeployment.

This whole victory lap is horribly premature, since the surge is failing to bring about the conditions necessary for withdrawl.

The conditions necessary for withdrawl are Planes and Ships loaded with fuel. The Iraqis want us gone, there is nothing left we can help them with, everything that can be handled militarily has been done. Its time to come home and leave the Iraqis POLITICAL problems to the Iraqis.

The only reason that you people say that the surge was not successful is because success to a Leftist equals American failure.

As I said before; you folks are pathetic – blind, pathetic fools.

I am sure you have said a lot of really ignorant things Cheese for brains mostly to your rubber girlfriend in your mommys basement since no one else listens to you. Unfornatly to moronic twits like you success equals getting as many Americans killed as possible its party time in your house as long as Americans are dying and you can pop another John Wayne movie into your VCR and talk about how tough YOU are while THEY are dying. Admit it you LOVE seeing Americans die. You are an ignorant, cowardly, festering, herpes sore of pseudohuman wimp.

What a load of rubbish.

The Center for American Progress opposed the surge, which is exactly what made this proposed withdrawl plan possible.

You folks are truly pathetic.

Wow you are world class stupid. The surge was PR. We began PAYING the Iraqis to riegn in their militias and the ethnic cleansing of neighborhoods was pretty much already done. Do your lips move when Rushie tells you what to think you moron? Pathetic is what they would call the story of your life. You ignorant cretin

Prove it.

Sir (or ma’am), you prove the point with every post you write. All of the reasons stated for the illegal invasion are proved wrong and misleading on a daily basis. All of the reasons stated for the military force have been tossed into the trash heap of history. Not one of Bush’s claims for our need to invade Iraq have been realized. Not one.

You may not listen to the idiots such as limbaugh and hannity, but you certainly have their inane talking points down pat. You do the 23% proud. The rest of America thinks you are a nutjob, but hey, in your little club, you are indeed the smartet person in the room. Good for you.

The question remains for those who have been wrong the entire time. Cheerleading a failed invasion does not sit well with those who believed Bush was competent. They have tremendous issues with the realization that they have been duped by the worst president in our history. They understand this, and that is why this thread got de-railed into talking about maxism and any other topic which doesn’t make the trolls feel like they have been played for fools.

Cheese and Crackers Says:
While most Americans credit the surge for the drop in violence in Iraq, most Iraqis credit the Sahwa Councils that we have been paying, although Maliki is now working against them. Also, the cease-fire called by the largest Shia militia in Iraq helped, and that militai is now part of the offical Iraqi government. The surge helped improve security in some areas, but lowered it in others. Also, the giant blast walls that divide Baghdad now did a lot to contain the violence. The Iraqi government has been asking us to leave since 2007. I left Iraq in the summer of 2004.

My brother-in-law is still over there and my son returned last Sept. From what both have told me, Chris is correct.

The paying off the militias has helped curb the violence more than the “surge” has.

Both have told me no one has found those WMDs we supposedly invaded for, with much sarcasm involved.
Both are voting for Obama as well.

Let me ask you this cheezedick: in true free market capitalism, if a business fails to make a profit, they go under, right?

Why then are they continuously bailed out at taxpayer’s expense? Why did John McCain leave it to the taxpayers to pay off the mess of the Keating 5? Huh? What about the greedy corporatists who ripped off thousands of people? Why didn’t they have to pay the money?

Please. You are a complete moron that has no clue what kind of sewage the hole in your face is spouting. But I guess when you willfully surrender your free will and thought, and choose to let people like Hannity and Rush think for you, that is what happens.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/49538.html

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While most Americans credit the surge for the drop in violence in Iraq, most Iraqis credit the Sahwa Councils that we have been paying, although Maliki is now working against them. Also, the cease-fire called by the largest Shia militia in Iraq helped, and that militai is now part of the offical Iraqi government. The surge helped improve security in some areas, but lowered it in others. Also, the giant blast walls that divide Baghdad now did a lot to contain the violence. The Iraqi government has been asking us to leave since 2007. I left Iraq in the summer of 2004.

Of course not. One needs, at least, two humans to have a conversation. Trolls, on the other hand, merely mimic human speech.

Unless, it’s trying to say that the Democratic party is “Marxist”? Well, that’s just too ridiculous to deserve a response.

I thought this link was about Iraq – why is the troll talking about “Maxism”?

because it can’t explain why the surge is a failure and why bush is embracing time tables, etc.