Comments on: Secretary Of State Lieberman Endorses ‘Dumb’ Plan To Kick Russia Out Of The G-8 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: christopher wiwi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5175948 christopher wiwi Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:59:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5175948 “The G-8 should become for a while the G-7 until Russia proves that it is capable of being a law-abiding member of the international community,” Lets try a G-6 with the US out until the Shrub leaves office and everyone breaths alittle easier. “The G-8 should become for a while the G-7 until Russia proves that it is capable of being a law-abiding member of the international community,” Lets try a G-6 with the US
out until the Shrub leaves office and everyone breaths alittle easier.

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5175772 robert verdi Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:23:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5175772 andi gee Sounds like a plan. andi gee
Sounds like a plan.

]]> By: andi gee http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5175740 andi gee Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:38:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5175740 Hey, I say we should just talk to the russians! Explain how nervous this makes the other former soviet block countries--like Lithuania, Estonia, and Poland. Maybe then the russians will understand how Georgia was just supporting their weak neighbor -- not trying to start a fight. I don't think Americans should say or do anything that will upset the russians. We don't want them to think we want to fight. They can have those little countries back, and rule them with an Iron Fist, again. I know those silly democratic citizens will be thoroughly re-taught in a nice, non-torture gulag! Americans should just concentrate on free jobs, free health care and sticking it to all the people with jobs! yea, peace! Hey, I say we should just talk to the russians! Explain how nervous this makes the other former soviet block countries–like Lithuania, Estonia, and Poland. Maybe then the russians will understand how Georgia was just supporting their weak neighbor — not trying to start a fight.

I don’t think Americans should say or do anything that will upset the russians. We don’t want them to think we want to fight. They can have those little countries back, and rule them with an Iron Fist, again. I know those silly democratic citizens will be thoroughly re-taught in a nice, non-torture gulag!

Americans should just concentrate on free jobs, free health care and sticking it to all the people with jobs!

yea, peace!

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5175056 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:10:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5175056 EugeneDebs, Of course it has, as matter of fact Stalin tried to cleanse the whole region once. In the camps no one messed with the Chechyans, it failed of course. As for heavy fighting, that began in the early ninties, but it was Putin who finnaly conquered the region with drum roll please, local support that he used to divide this border region. Sounds familiar? Anyway Belsan was horrible and as a matter of fact that event all but guaranteed the defeat of the Chechyans as they quickly gound what support they had in the west evaporate. EugeneDebs,
Of course it has, as matter of fact Stalin tried to cleanse the whole region once. In the camps no one messed with the Chechyans, it failed of course. As for heavy fighting, that began in the early ninties, but it was Putin who finnaly conquered the region with drum roll please, local support that he used to divide this border region. Sounds familiar? Anyway Belsan was horrible and as a matter of fact that event all but guaranteed the defeat of the Chechyans as they quickly gound what support they had in the west evaporate.

]]> By: JBaddo http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5175014 JBaddo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:05:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5175014 Old, decrepant, anti-American Joe LIEberman....someone please just rub him out. The people of Connecticut could ironically be the ones responsible for Armageddon if LIEberman is given any degree of responsibility in the foreign policy area. America wake the f&&k up Old, decrepant, anti-American Joe LIEberman….someone please just rub him out. The people of Connecticut could ironically be the ones responsible for Armageddon if LIEberman is given any degree of responsibility in the foreign policy area. America wake the f&&k up

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174944 freeman Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:52:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174944 Joe, maybe we should give Israel a seat on the UN security council , that way it could do it's own vetoing in the future ! Joe, maybe we should give Israel a seat on the UN security council , that way it could do it’s own vetoing in the future !

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174940 RUCerious Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:52:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174940 Thanks for the entertainment Robert Green, aren't you late for your segment on the Phil Hendrie show? Thanks for the entertainment Robert Green, aren’t you late for your segment on the Phil Hendrie show?

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174876 EugeneDebs Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174876 robert verdi Says: A whole lot of ignorant nonsense. Mr Green you are stupid, stupid, STUPID. The Russian Chechnyan conflict has been going on for decades with a whole lot of slaughter going on from BOTH SIDES. Remember Beslan you ignorant piece of garbage? Try just ONCE having some dim conception what you are talking about before parading the ignorance you are so proud of MORON. robert verdi Says:

A whole lot of ignorant nonsense. Mr Green you are stupid, stupid, STUPID. The Russian Chechnyan conflict has been going on for decades with a whole lot of slaughter going on from BOTH SIDES. Remember Beslan you ignorant piece of garbage? Try just ONCE having some dim conception what you are talking about before parading the ignorance you are so proud of MORON.

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174862 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:36:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174862 spencers mom, The logic of economic integration is to hopefully prevent wars, complain but Ralph is wrong on that point. spencers mom,
The logic of economic integration is to hopefully prevent wars, complain but Ralph is wrong on that point.

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174854 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:33:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174854 bourbon anyone? bourbon anyone?

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174774 Wayne Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:03:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174774 <em>The Republic of Stupidity Says: Interesting answers, Wayne & RUC… Could be yer both right… perhaps it’s some new form of treatment that crosses ancient Chinese medicine w/ binge drinking… alkipuncture?</em> Wouldn't that be akidrunkture? The Republic of Stupidity Says:

Interesting answers, Wayne & RUC…

Could be yer both right… perhaps it’s some new form of treatment that crosses ancient Chinese medicine w/ binge drinking… alkipuncture?

Wouldn’t that be akidrunkture?

]]> By: scytherius http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174706 scytherius Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:42:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174706 Could we please just get on with it and elect Mccain so the Repugs can take us to nuclear war, destroy this country and just get it over with? Sad how living in a post apocalyptic world is preferable to having these sub-humans run anything. Could we please just get on with it and elect Mccain so the Repugs can take us to nuclear war, destroy this country and just get it over with? Sad how living in a post apocalyptic world is preferable to having these sub-humans run anything.

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174702 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:41:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174702 Luis, Russia plays this game for centuries. Divide and subdivide then absorb. Move on to the next region and repeat. What happened in Georgia does not mean the USA is going to be at war with Russia next year, but 5 years from now when they begin moving weapons and money to Russian minorities in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Nato partners mind you what then? Call it an internal matter and walk away? Luis,
Russia plays this game for centuries. Divide and subdivide then absorb. Move on to the next region and repeat. What happened in Georgia does not mean the USA is going to be at war with Russia next year, but 5 years from now when they begin moving weapons and money to Russian minorities in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Nato partners mind you what then? Call it an internal matter and walk away?

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174700 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:40:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174700 roycommi, Exactly. roycommi,
Exactly.

]]> By: robert verdi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174682 robert verdi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:36:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174682 Luis, Okay but when the first batch of comments contain refrences to Israel when the post is actualy about the g-8 and russia, well thats that. Luis,
Okay but when the first batch of comments contain refrences to Israel when the post is actualy about the g-8 and russia, well thats that.

]]> By: Luis M http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174614 Luis M Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:10:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174614 <em>The Republic of Stupidity Says: And which finger might that be, Luis? </em> The one that clicks on the mouse button while the pointer is hovering right above the "Report Abuse" link, next to Robert Verdi's comments. Seriously, Bobbie V, you lost me at "Idiots". The Republic of Stupidity Says:
And which finger might that be, Luis?

The one that clicks on the mouse button while the pointer is hovering right above the “Report Abuse” link, next to Robert Verdi’s comments.

Seriously, Bobbie V, you lost me at “Idiots”.

]]> By: Roycommi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174558 Roycommi Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:41:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174558 "i’m having a hard time understanding this point." What hes saying is that a democracy has a legitimate right to suppress internal rebellions. Russia has gone out of its way to foment rebellion in these two areas for over a decade via money and arms and overt military provocation (see youtube videos of Russian jets shooting down unarmed Georgian recon drones and straying into Georgian territory). A totalitarian dictatorship should never be allowed to invade and destroy democratic countries. If you think Russia invaded to help anyone, your sadly, sadly mistaken. “i’m having a hard time understanding this point.”

What hes saying is that a democracy has a legitimate right to suppress internal rebellions. Russia has gone out of its way to foment rebellion in these two areas for over a decade via money and arms and overt military provocation (see youtube videos of Russian jets shooting down unarmed Georgian recon drones and straying into Georgian territory).

A totalitarian dictatorship should never be allowed to invade and destroy democratic countries. If you think Russia invaded to help anyone, your sadly, sadly mistaken.

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174546 had enough Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:36:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174546 Later on, in books, will we see multinational corporate ties to the supposed Russia aggression? We know McCain is the corporatist choice and the timing of this is too suspect. Later on, in books, will we see multinational corporate ties to the supposed Russia aggression? We know McCain is the corporatist choice and the timing of this is too suspect.

]]> By: stjack http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174484 stjack Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:24:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174484 <blockquote>robert verdi Says: Wayne, yeah georgia attacked first, its own territory that was being being detached by separatists gangsters who recieved support for Mother Russia. Idiot.</blockquote> i'm having a hard time understanding this point. is he excusing georgia's behavior because South Ossetia and Abkhazia were within Georgia's borders, and therefore Georgia can shell them all they want and kill unarmed civilians? or is he trying to be sarcastic? usually i'm pretty good at picking up the sarcasm, but maybe bobby is too subtle for me.

robert verdi Says:

Wayne,
yeah georgia attacked first, its own territory that was being being detached by separatists gangsters who recieved support for Mother Russia. Idiot.

i’m having a hard time understanding this point. is he excusing georgia’s behavior because South Ossetia and Abkhazia were within Georgia’s borders, and therefore Georgia can shell them all they want and kill unarmed civilians?

or is he trying to be sarcastic? usually i’m pretty good at picking up the sarcasm, but maybe bobby is too subtle for me.

]]> By: McWars http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/comment-page-2/#comment-5174402 McWars Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:06:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/21/liberman-russia-g8/#comment-5174402 You're right, ralph. Yet, I felt inclinded to pop the question anyway. You’re right, ralph. Yet, I felt inclinded to pop the question anyway.

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