Media Defend McCain: It’s Not ‘A Huge Deal’ That He Doesn’t Know How Many Houses He Owns
Media Defend McCain: It’s Not ‘A Huge Deal’ That He Doesn’t Know How Many Houses He Owns
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said yesterday in an interview with Politico that he did not know how many houses he and his wife Cindy own. “I think — I’ll have my staff get to you,” McCain said. “It’s condominiums where — I’ll have them get to you.” His staff has since said “the correct answer is at least four,” but the McCains actually own 7 houses.
Some in the media are leaping to defend McCain, either by justifying or downplaying his comment. The Washington Post’s Paul Kane called it a “manufactured flap,” and not “a huge deal” because “at this point in his national political career McCain is not going to be transformed into a super rich elitist. He’s just not, the voters won’t buy it.” Others downplayed McCain’s gaffe:
– Marc Ambinder, The Atlantic: “[T]he word ‘John McCain’ means a lot of different things, but rich isn’t one of them.”
– Howard Kurtz, Washington Post: The “assumption” that “McCain’s personal wealth makes him insensitive to the struggling economy…is highly debatable.”
And today on Fox News, host Martha MacCallum justified McCain’s comments, saying the reason he couldn’t answer was simply because the McCains “have real estate investments and he wanted to make sure he got that right.” Watch it:
Unfortunately, these reporters are ignoring an obvious and glaring reality that McCain is running a campaign of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. He recently defined rich as earning $5 million or more and doesn’t know how many houses he owns, and at the same time, McCain is proposing a tax policy that primarily benefits the rich. In fact, under his proposal, McCain himself would receive a $300,000 tax cut, while middle class Americans would receive only a few hundred.
Moreover, while ordinary Americans are struggling to keep the one house they own, McCain has a record of denying assistance to homeowners, having voted against mortgage protections and other steps to help consumers fight unfair credit terms.
But by now, we should all be used to the media’s favorable treatment of McCain. Indeed, just yesterday, McCain agreed that the U.S. should reconstitute the military draft. Yet some in the media argued that McCain hadn’t actually agreed to this policy change (he did) and instead chose to give McCain “the benefit of the doubt.”
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Looks like Reagan’s trickle down economics worked pretty well for the McCains. How much did you all benefit from the great GOP supply-side fiasco?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:01 pmIf you’re going to fool around, divorce and remarry then marry up. According to this video, its actually 10!
August 21st, 2008 at 5:01 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3jAkx9m10
See the rank hypocrisy. We need to start a campaign to flood every single show that takes this meme with protests. Something like, why is it wrong for Democrats to have far less than a tenth of what a Republican has to make them out of touch? We are sick and tired of the right wing bias of the media and we intend to make those showing such a bias pay for it in the market place.
Come on. Let us make this a real project.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:01 pmThe MSM is bending over backwards to protect their Corporate Masters choice for a bought and paid for President.
It is soooo obvious, but I guess only to a few…..sad, really, really sad.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:02 pmWashington Post’s Paul Kane called it a “manufactured flap,” and not “a huge deal” because “at this point in his national political career McCain is not going to be transformed into a super rich elitist.
You’re correct about that……….
Because he’s actually been one for almost 30 friggin’ years now , you partisan dipwad…………
August 21st, 2008 at 5:02 pmIs the best you guys can do? Like John McCain keeps track of his wife’s investment properties. The gaffe game is just that, wether its 57 states, shia and sunni, or a tire gauge. Yup let the country see the Obama campaign acting like any politcian. Anyway, did talking about another persons house ever feed a child?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:03 pmIf a 400 dollar haircut is a big thing then this should be HUGE
August 21st, 2008 at 5:06 pmrobert verdi Says:
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Is the best you guys can do? Like John McCain keeps track of his wife’s investment properties. The gaffe game is just that, wether its 57 states, shia and sunni, or a tire gauge. Yup let the country see the Obama campaign acting like any politcian. Anyway, did talking about another persons house ever feed a child?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Does leaving your 1st wife and children destitute while marrying one of the mistressess you were cheating on your wife with , feed one of your own , jackass ?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:07 pmNot only do the McCains lie about cookie recipes and shunned siblings, the Christian Science Monitor is reporting that the story of adopting a baby at the request of Mother Teresa is a lie also — Cindy NEVER met the nun, who was in a California hospital at the time.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:08 pmCindy also made up a story about visiting the hospital room of McCain.
The website is correcting itself after these revelations.
McSHAME standard line: “No matter what you accuse me of, I will POW you one better!”
August 21st, 2008 at 5:08 pmJimAK Says:
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Obama may wish he’d let the issue slide:
http://www.gop.com/ObamaRezkoShadyDeal/
August 21st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
You may wish you had went by this thread , Gomer Pyle Huckabee backing loser………..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
August 21st, 2008 at 5:09 pmThe Washington Post’s Paul Kane called it a “manufactured flap,” and not “a huge deal” because “at this point in his national political career McCain is not going to be transformed into a super rich elitist. He’s just not, the voters won’t buy it.”
“… even if it’s true. Not if we in the SCLM can help it. We have an image to preserve, no matter how false….”
Cheers,
August 21st, 2008 at 5:11 pmThis is technically true, the word ‘John McCain’ is not literally synonymous with the the word ‘rich’. But when he’s worth $100 million, the difference is largely academic in the eyes of most voters.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:12 pmYup, its 10. Ten luxury homes (including condos) for Super-Elite John McCain. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20565.htm
August 21st, 2008 at 5:12 pmJimAK–perhaps someone should tell McCain he doesn’t own any houses–I don’t think he has any idea what he does and does not “own.” He’s just another Republican idiot.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pmJimAK Says:
McCain may wish he’d figured out how many houses he owns before he started telling everyone this economy is ‘Strong’
Then again… a condo here, a condo there and pretty soon were talking about real property huh, Jim?
What’s a few houses between friends?
JimAK Says:
Obamam is out of touch! He’s Elitist!
August 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pmThe Obama team’s rapid response campaign was really outstanding on this issue.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pmJimAK Says:
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McCain owns no houses, his wife does.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 04/ 18/ mccains-tax-returns/
Mrs. McCain holds a significant stake in a Phoenix-based beer distributorship, Hensley & Co. that her late father helped found. To date, she has not disclosed the size of her stake in the privately-held concern. But published estimates have speculated that it could be worth up to $100 million or more.
Hensley or entities controlled by it also have sizable real estate holdings, primarily in Arizona, public filings show.
In a statement accompanying the release of Senator McCain’s taxes, his campaign stated that it was not releasing Mrs. McCain’s personal taxes “in the interest of protecting the privacy of her children”.
According to filings, Mrs. McCain received an annual salary of over $430,000 for serving as chairwoman of the company, which one of the country’s biggest distributors of Anheuser-Busch products. Under a prenuptial agreement, Cindy McCain’s assets are kept separate from her husband’s.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
And do you know what the actual parameters are in that pre-nup , you GOP tool ?
I’m betting you don’t……………..
August 21st, 2008 at 5:15 pmWhaddya mean it doesn’t make any difference?
Put the shoe on the other foot — Obama. Would that be OK too?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:16 pmAfter seeing how McCain treated his first wife–it should come as no surprise Cindy McCain has likely kept all of her assets under her own name.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:16 pmIt’s called openness and transparency, John. Learn it!
“At least FOUR” does not equal “SEVEN”
August 21st, 2008 at 5:17 pmHow can you not know how many houses you own?! How out of it about your own finances can you be? (Plenty apparently)
How can anyone even consider voting for a guy who can’t even handle staying abreast about his own financial situation? I mean c’mon, can’t he have his accountant(s) brief him once in awhile? If he was running the country how clued in would he be regarding the country’s financial situation? (Not too much apparently)
August 21st, 2008 at 5:17 pmMcmetal,
August 21st, 2008 at 5:18 pmI was pointing out McCain and Obama both make gaffes, to think otherwise is foolish. To ignore that is to be in a state of willfull disbelief.
JimAK says
McCain owns no houses, his wife does.
Were you so generous of thought when John Kerry was a candidate? At least there were years between his first and second marriage to a wealthy woman.
Do you and your wife consider your house as belonging to only one or the other?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:19 pmmary,
August 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pmCould you vote for a guy who spent 20 years listening to a Pastor, having that Pastor baptize your kids, quote that Pastor for your book, then turn around and tell us how shocked surprised you are by the Rhetoric that pastor uses?
Check out the whole article at democraticunderground.com.
TWO FORMER GOP CONGRESSMEN TO U.S. COMBAT FORCES WORLDWIDE: MCCAIN UNFIT TO SERVE AS YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF
Ex-Reps. Warn Troops: As Senator He Abandoned American POWs Trapped in Indochina; as President He’ll Abandon You
By
Bill Hendon & John LeBoutillier
Ed. note: This message from former U.S. Congressmen Bill Hendon (R-NC) and John LeBoutillier (R-NY) is being posted today on numerous military blogs and websites.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:21 pmrobert verdi Says:
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Mcmetal,
I was pointing out McCain and Obama both make gaffes, to think otherwise is foolish. To ignore that is to be in a state of willfull disbelief.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
And when are you GOP backers going to accept that claiming that McDepends is an “expert” on things like foreign diplomacy and national security is a fallacy of the highest proportions , considering his gaffes are frighteningly frequent in relation to those topics………?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:22 pmHey JimAK~
Check it our…
huh- guess he does ‘own’ a share of the houses after all.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:24 pmrobert verdi
Can you imagine living in one of the poorest black neighborhoods whose population was nearly all unemployed because of steel plant closings and the lack of opportunity that may have caused some people to rail against authority?
Pastor Wright was certainly outspoken, but you know he was taken out of context and frankly, the most inflammatory words were not his own, but he was repeating the words of our own Ambassador.
Oh, why am I wasting my time on you.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:24 pmrobert verdi Says:
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mary,
Could you vote for a guy who spent 20 years listening to a Pastor, having that Pastor baptize your kids, quote that Pastor for your book, then turn around and tell us how shocked surprised you are by the Rhetoric that pastor uses?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Can you vote for someone who questions his opponent’s “judgement” , when his own judgement over the years has been more than suspect and bordering on godawful ?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:24 pmrobert verdi –
Can you verify that Obama attended every sermon his pastor gave?
As far as I’m concerned Obama erred in only one way regarding the matter with his pastor.
He should have stuck by him.
Have you always agreed with everything your pastor said? Can you think for yourself?
Oh, btw, this thread is about how out of it McCain is about his finances and (are you serious?) how he doesn’t seem to know how many houses he and his wife own.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:25 pmMcMetal,
August 21st, 2008 at 5:25 pmGOP backers, well normaly I shill for the oil industry, but there one and the same right? Anyway frequent gaffes from McCain and Obama are the nature of the race. You wish to create a narrative for yourself, I am not going to be able to stop you.
So, do McCain and his wife have a pre-nup?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:26 pmIf she were as savvy as she would appear, she’d have demanded one from her philanderer/husband.
So, when is the MSM going to stop covering for John McBush? Just ask yourself what the MSM would be saying if it was Obama who had said any of these things. They would be talking about it 24×7.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:27 pmmary,
August 21st, 2008 at 5:27 pmYou questioned how aware McCain was, anyway 20 freakin years is a long time to miss the wonderfull world view of the the million dollar Pastor.
listening to randi… according to her, there is a limpball screed that’s being missed today…
he was referring to the “regular people” who will be featured at the dem convention, saying “how can you look at those people” and other degradations…
August 21st, 2008 at 5:28 pmOf course they won’t criticize. They’re rich elitists too.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:29 pmWell, Robertverdi and JimmyAK, if Johnnyboy doesn’t own any of his houses and dear Cindyrella owns them all, I guess that makes Bombin’ Johnny a kept man who sucks off a woman for his living.
Ain’t that special??
August 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pm#robert verdi Says:
Anyway, did talking about another persons house ever feed a child?
No, but then nothing you and your ilk have done for the last 6-8 years has done anything to help feed a child either.
You and yours have run our economy into the ground, made the rich richer and the poor poorer and pretty much destroyed the middle class. I hope you are proud of yourself.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmrobert verdi Says:
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McMetal,
GOP backers, well normaly I shill for the oil industry, but there one and the same right? Anyway frequent gaffes from McCain and Obama are the nature of the race. You wish to create a narrative for yourself, I am not going to be able to stop you.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I questioned that moron , TribbleDick , the other day , when he called Obama “nervy” for having the temerity to claim Clarence Thomas does not belong on the SCOTUS (and he doesn’t).
Obama has a background in Constitutional law , having attended college and taught in one immediately after graduating in that subject ; what exactly makes McDepends an “expert” on either national security and/or foreign diplomacy , and how can it be calming/soothing that his mistakes are made almost always concerning those two particular topics ?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmfrom C&L:
[...]
Senator Obama hammered McCain on this at a town hall today, too. McCain’s response? Typically lame: Obama Worries About Arugula, Vacations In Hawaii
RELATED:
Tour McCain’s Houses on Google Maps
Lifestyles of The Rich & Out of Touch
Fabulous Life of John McCain
McCain’s Many Mansions
Meet a woman who knows how many homes she now owns — zero!
UPDATE: (Nicole) McCains Bought Second Beach Condo At Around Time McCain Said Struggling Homeowners Needed To Skip Vacations…but will McCain’s Media report it? How about one of his unmemorable homes being featured in Architectural Digest?
UPDATE 2: Have they no shame? The McCain campaign is in full damage control mode, and have resorted to — you guessed it! — playing the POW card.
Speaking to the Washington Post, aide Brian Rogers, in full damage-control mode, acknowledged that his boss had “some investment properties and stuff,” but added: “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison.”
Wow. They played this card after McCain was caught in the “Cone of Silence” lie. It appears that we are going to see this strategy employed every time the McCain feels he needs to kill a story quickly. It can’t possibly work every time, can it?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/21/mccain-cant-remember-how-many-homes-he-owns/
August 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmCheck post 14. Report back.
You’re absolutely right, Jim… I apologize. McCain doesn’t ‘own’ any houses and a prenup and investment properties are sure to show how ‘in touch’ he is with the average American, please keep bringing them up.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmPlease, oh please!
According to 99.9% of the TP bloggers Fox is not a creditable source and has been often referred to a comedy channel. Why does TP give them credence buy referencing them as the “MEDIA”?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pmPlease don’t call Faux News “Media”. They’re a 24-hour political comedy network. The only serious block of programming on Fox News, ironically enough, is the comedy show.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:33 pmFox News, host Martha MacCallum justified McCain’s comments, [...]the McCains “have real estate investments
gigi?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmwhat’s that sucking sound?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmrobert verdi Says:
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mary,
You questioned how aware McCain was, anyway 20 freakin years is a long time to miss the wonderfull world view of the the million dollar Pastor.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
How aware is McDepends for publicly seeking the endorsement of a known moron and hate-monger like Hagee ?
And Obama can claim he was young and foolish ; McDepends is gonna’ claim what ?
That he’s old and foolish ?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmIf the McCain camp parsed home ownership like their supporters on this thread, wouldn’t the answer be ZERO?
How did they arrive at their response “at least four”?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:35 pm#JimAK Says:
According to filings, Mrs. McCain received an annual salary of over $430,000 for serving as chairwoman of the company, which one of the country’s biggest distributors of Anheuser-Busch products. Under a prenuptial agreement, Cindy McCain’s assets are kept separate from her husband’s.
Sorry idiot troll. She can only keep the assets she had before the marriage separate from her husband. She did not own those 7 homes when she married John. So, since Arizona is a community property state, McBush owns half of everything they have acquired since they were married, including the seven homes.
Why don’t you try doing your homework before you post. It might stop you from making an a$$ out of yourself.
Also, why did the Right howl when Teresa Heinz Kerry wanted to keep her tax returns secret, but it’s ok for druggie Cindy to keep hers secret?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:35 pmACME_Democrat Says:
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According to 99.9% of the TP bloggers Fox is not a creditable source and has been often referred to a comedy channel. Why does TP give them credence buy referencing them as the “MEDIA”?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Because they’re nice people at TP ; whereas I am not.
FAUX blows elephant balls.
Good enough answer for you , GOP salad tosser ?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:35 pmSee John McCain’s name on there?
http://www.maricopa.gov/ Assessor/ ParcelApplication/ Detail.aspx?ID=163-19-098-A
No, I don’t. Does that mean it was forged by the same guy who did Obama’s birth certificate? Did you check the kerning? /snark
Seriously, Mr. Know-it-all, do you know what community property is? And that Arizona is one of 9 states in the US with community property laws?
Didn’t think so.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:36 pmFox is evil for what they say and the others are evil for what they don’t say.
But as Scotty was fond of saying, “She can’t take much more captain!”
August 21st, 2008 at 5:37 pmJimAK Says:
See John McCain’s name on there?
It doesn’t matter if his name is on it or not. The property was purchased in 2006 and since Arizona is a community property state, John McBush owns half that condominium whether Cindy likes it or not.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pmThe trolls once again are playing dumb. The point is not whose name is on the deeds. The point is that John McCain has been living the life of an uber-wealthy elitist oligarch for decades.
Since there can be no sensible argument against this obvious fact, they are attempting to obscure the issue.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pmMcCain’s proposed tax cut is about six times the average annual income in the US. Most people don’t need time to think to answer how many houses they own. It takes low moral standards to be in those categories and still be drawing disability. He is insensitive to the economic needs of the average citizen. He will prove to be a detriment to those most in need because he lacks basic understanding of the struggle of not having enough money.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pmZed Lefflin:
August 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pmHave you considered raising some yard birds? Pastured antibiotic free or even better organically fed chickens are both tastier and healthier than their industrial kin.
good_golly4 Says:
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The reporter asked the wrong question. A condominium is not a house, and McCain is not his wife. He should have asked: In how many “properties” do you, your wife, your immediate family or your Family Trust have a legal or eqitable ownership interest?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
By the time the reporter got the entire question out , McDepends would need his diaper changed………..
August 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pmJimAK~
August 21st, 2008 at 5:41 pmA question…
Since we’re all agreed that community property doesn’t apply and that McCain owns no houses, how long until he starts campaigning as ‘homeless’?
When you pick up your beer cozy at campaign headquarters can you suggest that tsck?
That would totally destroy our attempts to show that McCain is out of touch with real poverty and hopeless on econmic issues… after all, he’s one of the growing numbers of ‘homeless’
please…
you know what? i actually think mccain is worsethan bush. serious.
he’s that bad.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:41 pmCheck post 14. Report back.
@JimAK #41: It appears that at least a half-dozen commenters (including me) have done so, and pointed out that AZ is a community property state, so Johnny Boy owns half of what she does, and your point is completely bogus.
So, when should we expect your “report back”, pinhead?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:41 pmThe reporter asked the wrong question. A condominium is not a house, and McCain is not his wife. He should have asked: In how many “properties” do you, your wife, your immediate family or your Family Trust have a legal or eqitable ownership interest?
Good point, Gigi… I also encourage you to run with this meme… after all, lots of people have trouble keeping their Condos straight from their other properties, plenty of people will be able to relate to that.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:43 pmA song, from John McCain to Marc Ambinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-q7-lH8cbs
August 21st, 2008 at 5:45 pmUm. If the homes all belong to Cindy, wouldn’t the honest answer have been “none”? Why on Earth would someone like Flippy McSpin LIE about owning any houses?
I have to admit I enjoy watching LIARS scramble to cover their blown LIES.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:46 pmrobert verdi Says:
mary,
You questioned how aware McCain was, anyway 20 freakin years is a long time to miss the wonderfull world view of the the million dollar Pastor.
You mean the pastor that the press could only find two or three offensive things he said in a 30 year career? That pastor. The one who said the things they ran 24×7 at a sermon where Obama wasn’t there? That pastor.
You tried Wright on Obama and you failed. Bringing him up again isn’t going to work any more than it worked the first time. At least Obama criticized his pastor. Didn’t really year McBush criticize Haagee for all the reprehensible things he said.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:47 pm@Zed Lefflin: Do you have anything at all to say that is even remotely germane to the topic at hand? If not, please just go away.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:47 pmI think Lieberman has the answer.!
August 21st, 2008 at 5:48 pmgood_golly4 Says:
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Don’t kid yourself Zed. Obama knows a lot about slumlords in the corrupt land of Daley.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
As if McDepends has kept his nose clean his entire life ?
Two words : Keating Five……………
BTW
Why would you or anyone want a quarter-century non-descript Senator as president ?
He has never enacted any worthwhile legislation , and has been more recognized for opposing a GI Bill that would benefit those whom he claims he’s all about and for………Which he obviously is not.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:49 pmgood_golly4 Says:
Don’t kid yourself Zed. Obama knows a lot about slumlords in the corrupt land of Daley.
If you get to paint Obama by every person he knows who may not meet with your approval, we get to do the same with McBush. And that’s a comparison you will lose considering how many crooks (like Abramoff) that McBush consorted with. At least Obama wasn’t reprimanded by the ethics committee for participating in a scam (Keating 5) that cost many Americans their retirement. You do know that McBush was one of the Keating 5, don’t you?
That’s another thing I wonder. Why is McBush’s involvement with the Keating 5 such a sacrosanct subject? It’s time for Obama to take off his gloves and stop complimenting McBush.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:50 pmEVERYONE NEEDS TO GO TO THIS SITE AND TAKE A PEEK AND SEND IT ON…THEREALMCCAIN.COM…I promise you this will open your eyes. The media seem to want to give this guy a pass on everything. We’re the ones that can make or break him! I don’t want this man to be the President!
August 21st, 2008 at 5:52 pmWow, Gigi is really getting whacked out. In her world, the McCain’s are honorable and good for owning more homes than they can count. Meanwhile, Barack Obama is a lowlife scumbag for his years of selfless community service helping poor people find a home.
Gigi, be careful. Karma is not something you want to get on the bad side of.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:52 pmMarie makes a great point:
Were you so generous of thought when John Kerry was a candidate?
At least there were years between his first and second marriage to a wealthy woman.
remember that bullshite in 04?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:54 pmthe hypocisy is quite astounding…
It’s not. EXCEPThis minions keep trying to cast Obama as elite.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:54 pm“[T]he word ‘John McCain’ means a lot of different things, but rich isn’t one of them.”
Really? Is Marc Armbinder ’serious’ when he makes this claim? A greater than $ 100 million net worth and somewhere between four and twelve primary, supplemental and vacation residences doesn’t make one rich?
That’s simply ridiculous. And, utterly pathetic. Rather obscene, in fact.
How can anyone outside this financial stratosphere possibly identify with Senator McCain?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pmGigi, I live in the area, and know the story. You are full of shit. Obama bought a small strip of Rezco’s property so he would have enough of an easement to put up a fence. And, he paid more than it was worth. So, STFU you lying fool.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:58 pmIf John McCain owned no houses, he could have smiled and said “None. Cindy, however, has a couple.”
August 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pmBut that’s not what he said.
He said he wasn’t sure–and he’d have his staff get back on that.
He said that because the truth would be deadly out of his mouth.
He saw people screaming SEVEN HOUSES and decided to say he didn’t know.
But the choice was no-win–now he’s so rich he can’t remember how many houses he’s got!
Obama is already using it in his speeches.
This is John McCain’s tank-ride episode. The ads are already out.
“ …really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”
Yup, except it isn’t much of a debate… McCain and Gigi keep talkin’ and that gulf between McCain and regular Americans just gets wider and wider…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:01 pm“ …really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”
JimAK sez: Check the laws regarding trusts.
Heh… this gets better and better…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:02 pmgood_golly4 Says:
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McCain’s response: “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?” the McCain camp responded. “Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people cling to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”
August 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Maybe , maybe not.
Does anyone believe that a money and power hungry old fart , who was more than willing to leave his 1st wife and children he had with her destitute to run off and marry the wealthiest mistress he had at that time , should be the one trying to talk shit about that guy ?
McDepends really doesn’t have any solid ground to stand on in this argument ; btw , neither do you ………..
August 21st, 2008 at 6:03 pmVery true. My state (Nebraska is full of them) They are the fools who keep voting Republican because they believe the party represents them. Piss poor elitist.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:03 pmJimAK Says:
Check the laws regarding trusts.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Uh huh, you’d be saying the same thing if it were Obama.
Can it, f uckwit.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:04 pmIt’s not a huge deal to have no idea how many houses you own? Is the media that stupid / incompetent? This shows why no one with any brains trusts the media. Someone doesn’t even know how many houses they own. This would normally be described as a stupid, memory-challenged, loser. Which McCain is, by the way. So why, oh why, does the media think that having NO IDEA about your holdings, is somehow a good thing for a presidential candidate? If you don’t even know how many houses you own, how can you ever – EVER – deal with the economy of a country? The media is so blatantly biased in favor of this unintelligent, confused, lying, flip-flopping buffoon. What in h*ll is wrong with the American media? Are they afraid to confront McCain on his memory lapses? Are they saying a president with no memory – even about his own houses!!! – is fit to run a country? Holy garbage.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:07 pmgood_golly4 Says:
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Elitism is not measured by wealth.
Wealth is not measured by elitism.
There are multi-millionairs that are not elitist.
There are those with negative net worths that are elitists.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Someone who did community service work in their life versus someone who has never really worked a day in their miserable and useless existence ; not much to your argument , goofball…….
August 21st, 2008 at 6:07 pmAugust 21st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I see conservative never change. They can’t defend their man so they attack the other. Oh well. If the McCain campaign is paying people to posts on these blogs he really needs to get his money back. And if you are volunteering to do it… Well you’re a fool. Any man with 7 houses can at least pay you something to make an ass out of yourself.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:08 pmDear Supporter,
What a tremendous job you’ve done with McCain’s Mansions! Because of your efforts in spreading, distributing, and supporting this video, the media questioned McCain yesterday about just how many multimillion dollar homes he owns. And just what was McCain’s response? “I think – I’ll have my staff get to you,” he said. “It’s condominiums where – I’ll have them get to you.”
The fact that McCain couldn’t remember how many mansions he has proves how elitist and divorced from economic reality he truly is. That’s why McCain admitted economics is not his strongest suit, and why he offered a budget plan that would create the largest debt in our country since World War II. That’s why he proposed tax hikes on employer-based health care, doesn’t know the price of gas, and has no appreciation for the struggles of hard-working Americans facing foreclosure.
This reminds me of when George Bush, Sr. didn’t know the price of a carton of milk or how to use a supermarket checkout counter machine. It was a story the media seized because it illustrated just how out of touch a candidate could be on the economy.
And here’s your crucial chance to compel the media to turn McCain’s gaffe into a similar revelatory moment. Redouble your efforts in spreading McCain’s Mansions to everyone you know, regardless of political beliefs. Make sure your local news stations, newspapers, and blogs run it. Make sure people are talking about it around the dinner table and at churches and community centers. Make sure everyone sees for themselves the elitist that is John McCain.
Yours,
Robert Greenwald
and the Brave New team
P.S. See for yourself some of the media who are already pushing this story out there, and then go to work and continue passing it along!
New York Times: Obama Counts McCain’s Houses
Huffington Post: McCain Doesn’t Remember How Many Houses He Owns
The Raw Story: Homes McCain Doesn’t Remember Having Worth Nearly $14 Million
August 21st, 2008 at 6:10 pmgood_golly4 Says:
There are multi-millionairs that are not elitist.
True. There’s Warren Buffett, George Soros, Ted Kennedy.
Then, there are multi-millionaires who run for office in order to give themselves a tax cut, like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain, and most every Republican in Congress. Those are the elitists.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:10 pmWhy don’t they ask how many jets does mcchimpy own? Owning a jet is pretty rich.
So mcchimpy is pissed at Sen. Obama remarks on his richness so he brings up some bs about Ayers.
Time to make the do-nuts.
KEATING 5 anyone? k5 is directly related to mcchimpy unlike Mr. Ayers. (Sen. Obama was 8 years old)
August 21st, 2008 at 6:11 pmI’ll reprint this instead:
dasm Says:
So why, oh why, does the media think that having NO IDEA about your holdings, is somehow a good thing for a presidential candidate? If you don’t even know how many houses you own, how can you ever – EVER – deal with the economy of a country?
Good questions dasm!!!!
August 21st, 2008 at 6:11 pmI think the days of a failed haberdasher with a modest background from the Midwest becoming President are long over.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:11 pmAs pointed out before – there are no private beaches in Hawaii.
McCain started out lying, continued & ended up lying some more. The whole quote from McCain is crap. Politcal, smearing crap. But McCAin doesn’t care if he lies, lies, & lies again. He’ll do anything & anyone in order to win. What a loser & a non-leader. Please, give us someone with intelligence, honesty, and true patriotism. Like Obama. Not the woman-hating, lying, flip-flopping jerk that is John McCain.
good_golly4 Says:
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McCain’s response: “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?” the McCain camp responded. “Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people cling to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”
August 21st, 2008 at 6:14 pmgood_golly4 Says:
Obama then bought part of the next door lot from Rezco at a fraction of what Rezco paid for it on a per square foot basis.
You are just a lying sack of shit. I’ve been reading about this story in the Chicago Tribune from day 1. I know the chronology, and a lot more about it than you have gotten from your propaganda sources.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:15 pmYet another McCain/GOP lie (n.b., goon_golly)
“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii…”
August 21st, 2008 at 6:15 pmBy the way, as a long time resident of the State of Hawaii, where I grew up prior to living in Arizona, Maryland—and now for more than two decades, in Oregon—there are NO private beaches in the State of Hawaii. None. Beach front property is all PUBLIC on the inhabited islands. Even that fronting military reservations and other Federal land.
Once again, the ‘elite’ and effete Senator McCain and his staff, attempting to paint someone else with the rich, celebrity brush, just get their basic facts completely WRONG. Pretty much just like always.
Of course, we would not want facts or truth get in the way of the McCain campaign’s mindless accusations. These slaps at Senator Obama are really rather pathetic. And, they tell us a lot about Senator McCain and those whom he has chosen to surround himself with.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pm1. If Flippy McSpin can’t keep track of how many properties he “owns”, how will he ever keep track of the duties and responsibilities of the POTUS? And…
2. Even giving him the pass on his original statement, can we trust someone who can’t come up with a reasonable explanation of a gaffe to manage a crisis?
My answers are:
1. We can’t. And…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pm2. No.
Concern over rising price of arugala vs. confusion over number of homes owned…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pmHmm, which do you suppose resonates more with the average American?
shoeless Says:
The trolls once again are playing dumb. The point is not whose name is on the deeds. The point is that John McCain has been living the life of an uber-wealthy elitist oligarch for decades.
reminds me of the line: “if you have to ask, you can’t afford it”…
which brings about: “if you can’t remember how many houses you own, it’s too many”…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:19 pmI know the question has been asked before, but I’ve yet to see an answer. Why are the “conservatives” so obsessed with arugula? Is it because it sounds “foreign” and they’re trying to link Obama with the rest of the planet?
I’m pretty sure that the fatcat lobbyists running his campaign have eaten their fair share of arugula in the same restaurants where they’re slamming down $200 steaks and $800 bottles of pinot.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:24 pmMemo to media: Of course, Grandpappy Thurston Howell III McSame doesn’t know how many houses that he owns because he doesn’t own any of those houses! He was brought and paid for by his sugarmama Lovey Cindy. There is a big difference between earning material things and marrying into them.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:27 pmFrank Rich from last Sunday:
…the public doesn’t know who on earth John McCain is. The most revealing poll this month by far is the Pew Research Center survey finding that 48 percent of Americans feel they’re “hearing too much” about Obama. Pew found that only 26 percent feel that way about McCain, and that nearly 4 in 10 Americans feel they hear too little about him. It’s past time for that pressing educational need to be met.
What is widely known is the skin-deep, out-of-date McCain image. As this fairy tale has it, the hero who survived the Hanoi Hilton has stood up as rebelliously in Washington as he did to his Vietnamese captors. He strenuously opposed the execution of the Iraq war; he slammed the president’s response to Katrina; he fought the “agents of intolerance” of the religious right; he crusaded against the G.O.P. House leader Tom DeLay, the criminal lobbyist Jack Abramoff and their coterie of influence-peddlers.
With the exception of McCain’s imprisonment in Vietnam, every aspect of this profile in courage is inaccurate or defunct.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:28 pmSen. McCain’s “House count problem” leads the CBS evening News. Does this story have Legs???
August 21st, 2008 at 6:32 pmIn her recent Vogue interview, conducted from the newer Coronado condo, McCain explained that her husband, a Navy veteran, initially wasn’t keen on the idea of a pied-à-terre in Coronado.
“When I bought the first one, my husband, who is not a beach person, said, ‘Oh, this is such a waste of money; the kids will never go,’” she told Vogue. “Then it got to the point where they used it so much I couldn’t get in the place. So I bought another one.”
oh, la dee dah…
(we’re talking BEACH houses here…)
August 21st, 2008 at 6:33 pmI got heiress envy.
I wanna be a kept man, like Mr. Maverick.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:36 pmIn the grand scheme of things, McCain not knowing how many houses he has isn’t really that big of a deal. And it really falls way down on the list of things I care about.
I don’t really care if a candidate doesn’t know how many houses he owns if he can be trusted to care about people who are trying desperately to hang onto the only one they have.
I don’t really care if a candidate has received government-provided health care all his life if he understands the struggles of those who have to decide between paying for health insurance premiums and paying for groceries.
I don’t really care if a candidate who can well afford it pays over $500 for a pair of shoes or $400 for a haircut as long as he knows there are Americans who struggle to come up with that every month to pay their rent.
I don’t care about a candidate’s sex life.
I don’t care whether a candidate is rich or poor.
I don’t care about a candidate’s marital history.
I don’t care about a candidate’s religion.
Here’s what I DO care about — how much the candidate respects the constitution, which special interests he’s beholden to, whether he can be trusted to keep his word to the people who elected him, how much he values the respect of the world, how he feels about human rights in general, if he keeps future generations in mind where the environment is concerned, etc. etc. — in other words, what kind of job he’s going to do as President.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:38 pmI have to laugh at the repugs who are despertely trying to make something out of nothing regarding Obama’s house. He paid the seller’s price for it. He bought the lot next door from Mrs. Reczko because he wanted to put in a play yard for the kids.
He still has a mortgage.
They compare this to McCain’s multiple houses (7,8,10 or more) and try to make something of it.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:39 pmBadger Says
August 21st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Sen. McCain’s “House count problem” leads the CBS evening News. Does this story have Legs???
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I should be grateful that the media are finally starting to pay some attention to McCain. But couldn’t they come up with something having a bit more substance? Such as McCain’s positions on issues? I mean — they change daily, so they should always be news.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:41 pmNBC leads with John McMansion story. Sorry pundits, this one is beyond your control.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:42 pmSo, JimmyAK – what are you saying? That McLoser is a gigolo…?
August 21st, 2008 at 6:44 pmAs shoeless knows, those of us living in the Chicago area are fully aware of Obama’s life here – the papers have reported all the minutiae ad infinitum. GG and others can try to spin it into something but it ain’t gonna work.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:44 pmThey just can’t find enough dirt on Obama so they will revisit things from when he was 2, when he was 6, when he was 20, who he met while working in Chicago, who he met while teaching at the U. of Chicago. Anyone he ever met at a cocktail party or at a kindergarten meeting is under the microscope – that is how desperate tthe McCainites are for anything to hang on Obama’s neck.
Unfortunately because so many repugs are racists, these things give them valid reasons to vote against Obama – not because of his race, but because he bought a house!
That would be nice, missmolly, but we have to face the fact that it ain’t gonna happen. We no longer have a professional press corps in this nation, it’s all a branch of infotainment.
If the best we can do is get them to pay attention to the trivial things about McCain that says he’s unfit for the presidency, then that’s what we’ll have to settle for.
We can say “that’s very telling” and hope that the press pays attention.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:45 pmThere’s no excuse whatsoever for a presidential candidate to not know how many houses he and his spouse own.
And there’s no excuse whatsoever for the MSM to give him a get out of scrutiny card to play on this.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:47 pmIf McIIIrd wants to raise Obama an Ayers, Barack should raise McIIIrd a Keating and call.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:48 pmIf you talk bad about St. John McCain, be prepared to be put on the no fly list, have stalker producers in your bushes until November, have the Republicans of Congress call a special vote to have you declared a traitor, that Senator Glenn Beck McCarthy will associate you with the new Soviet movement and Michael Savage will release your loved ones addresses and where your children go to school, so large 40+ year old white males can hurl objects at them from their 1988 Ford/Chrysler/Dodge pick-up trucks.
Oh…and if you speak bad about the patron saint from Arizona a second time, you’re disappearing and going to Gitmo. Who needs the Gestapo when you have a quaint little place in Cuba where the rules of law, order and everything else since the Magna Carta don’t apply?!
August 21st, 2008 at 6:48 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
couldn’t they come up with something having a bit more substance?
Missmolly,
August 21st, 2008 at 6:49 pmI agree the media should focus on McCain’s positions ( a moving target)….but to get to that point, the media needs to puncture McCain’s fairy tale Image.
What’s not to like about a Hero Maverick?
My fervent hope is that during one of the debates Obama artfully nails the codger to the wall to the point McIIIrd loses it and tries to physically attack his opponent…
August 21st, 2008 at 6:49 pmIn moderation my butt…so I will type it this way.
If you look how old McSame was when he married (or dated) Cindy, he is pretty much as close to a p.e.d.o.p.h.i.l.e as it gets.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:51 pmRUCerious Says
August 21st, 2008 at 6:47 pm
There’s no excuse whatsoever for a presidential candidate to not know how many houses he and his spouse own.
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This isn’t unusual. McCain doesn’t know the price of gas and many other things the average American could tell you without even having to open their brain very far. He lives in a bubble. Just like Dubya. And we’ve seen how well that’s worked out.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:54 pmOh…
it seems to be that the best the McCain apologists can come up with is THE KEPT MAN defense.
And McCain was a POW.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:54 pmlest we forget ~ from 1989
McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five
Just a couple of reminders about the sordid past of McIIIrd…
You’re John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker.
Obviously, Keating thought you could make it to the White House, too.
He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.
Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.
So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as “the madding crowd.” It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.
Like the old song, that now seems “Long ago and far away.”
Since Keating’s collapse, you find yourself doing obscene things to save yourself from the Senate Ethics Committee’s investigation. As a matter of course, you engage in backbiting behavior that will turn you into an outcast in the Senate if you do survive.
They say that if you put five lobsters into a pot and give them a chance to escape, none will be able to do so before you light the fire. Each time a lobster tries to climb over the top, his fellow lobsters will pull him back down. It is the way of lobsters and threatened United States senators.
And, of course, that’s the way it is with the Keating Five. You are all battling to save your own hides. So you, McCain, leak to reporters about who did Keating’s bidding in pressuring federal regulators to change the rules for Lincoln Savings and Loan.
When the reporters fail to print your tips quickly enough–as in the case of your tip on Michigan Senator Donald Riegle–you call them back and remind them how important it is to get that information in the newspapers.
… And this dirtbag want to be President?
August 21st, 2008 at 6:57 pmmisshusseinmolly @115 (at 6:38 pm)
HEAR! HEAR!
August 21st, 2008 at 7:05 pmBadger Says:
Sen. McCain’s “House count problem” leads the CBS evening News.
cosmosis Says:
NBC leads with John McMansion story. Sorry pundits, this one is beyond your control.
hopefully it won’t overshadow the fact that he agrees that
August 21st, 2008 at 7:08 pmwe need a DRAFT…
…
JimAK Says:
When John and Cindy McCain started dating, he was 42 and still married to his first wife and she was 25.
Forgot somethin’.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:09 pmRUCerious Says:
My fervent hope is that during one of the debates Obama artfully nails the codger to the wall to the point McIIIrd loses it and tries to physically attack his opponent…
Moderator: Sen. McCain…can you explain Sen. Obama’s point on you missing key votes on Iraq, veterans benefits, the Webb G.I. Bill and energy to campaign for president?
McCain: I believe my support of these issues justifies my positions on the subjects.
Moderator: But you didn’t vote on most of these. Do you see that if you support them and not vote on them, that your words ring hallow…as Sen. Obama suggests?
McCain: Are you questioning my Patriotism?!
Moderator: No.
McCain: Because if you are, I’ll have to show you my left and right rockets ‘red glare’!
Obama: Can we get the Secret Service in here, please!
McCain: I’ll blow you into ramparts, Joe Cool!!! But I need to teach this Commie-Arab terrorist that my colors don’t RUN!
Moderator: Uh, you’re talking to Anderson Cooper here…can someone please take down the mad grandpa?!
McCain: You’ll pay for that Frenchie!!!!
*McCain dives at AC head-first…riot ensues*
August 21st, 2008 at 7:11 pmWhen John and Cindy McCain started dating, he was 42 and she was 25.
Uh, yeah. And during 1995, when illicit affair known as the ‘Lewinsky scandal’ was unfolding, the ages of the players were 47 and 22. Not a hell of a lot of difference, is there? And yet, conservatives—including Senator John McCain—were appalled and horrified by this age difference!
Hypocrites: all of you. Particularly your chosen leader.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:26 pmMichael Lafferty – ‘Lewinsky scandal’
And you think anyone here approves of that affair, think again, idiot.
If you are more than 7 years apart in age, one of you has a real problem.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pmOpps miss read what you meant Michael, my bad.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:37 pmyup. run with it and lets see what happy joy comes out of this.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:41 pmNo problem. We all get fired up. I’m not sure what pushed by buttons, and I would not attempt to defend President Clinton’s conduct. I simply wanted to point out to the opposition that what so horrified them about the age difference in that case, is—well—pretty much identical in the case of the Senator.
Quick question: which two things most clearly characterized the early career of Senator McCain? Answer: cheating and Keating. Cute, but nonetheless true.
And in other news…
…some 4,145 US soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will not share in the benefits accorded them by the new GI bill—the one which Senator McCain now claims credit for, though he vehemently opposed it and attempted repeatedly to torpedo it—because they (gasp) died in that military misadventure we call the ‘War in Iraq.’ The one that Senator McCain claims we have won, or are winning, and from which we cannot withdraw. Though we just agree to. Or, something.
Did I mention hypocrites?
August 21st, 2008 at 7:44 pmMumbling John liked getting all the beer from Suds Cindy.
Oh…Senator Glenn B. McCarthy thinks McCain is now dead-even in the polls because America wants a “safe” president, not a “risky” one in Obama. Does Cindy supply Glenn’s writers with the “cold bottles/cans” for this “genius” material?! Because this is like watching a really bad comedy.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:49 pmJimAK
Cite the NY Post — yeah, that’s a real good source of factual information.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:41 pmThey would make Mother teresa look bad — oops, Cindy McCain already used her.
If Joe Biden is the VP, the first attack he should make on McCain is the Keating Five.
Most voters have only a vague recollection of that scandal and their memories need to be refreshed as much as younger voters need to learn about it.
Also, McCain should be asked about his blocking of investigations into POW/MIAs in N. Viet Nam which he effectively blocked in the Senate Committee.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pmJimAK Says:
“Sen. McCain himself does not own any of the properties. They’re all owned by Cindy McCain, her dependent children and the trusts and companies they control.”
So, should we expect him to now claim to be a homeless Vet War Hero?
Your logic and lack of facts is “selective” in regard to what we divorced folks call a “community property” issue . . .
August 21st, 2008 at 10:04 pmMan, is JImAK the worst troll ever or what?
He posts a link and an except from a WaPo story that basically demonstrates that Obama’s dealings with Rezko were above-board and no corruption appears to have taken place.
Maybe this is why trolls are so dishonest. When they try to post honestly, those liberally-biased facts come back to bite them in the ass.
Good work, Jim!
August 21st, 2008 at 10:32 pmSo lets see, McCain doesn’t own the houses and he doesn’t spend his time keeping track of all of his wifes investment holdings. Great work guys, now that Senator Obama made this a central issue it leaves the door open to attack in ways that make the Paris add look like pure softball.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:38 pmrobert verdi Says:
Is the best you guys can do? Like John McCain keeps track of his wife’s investment properties. The gaffe game is just that, wether its 57 states, shia and sunni, or a tire gauge. Yup let the country see the Obama campaign acting like any politcian. Anyway, did talking about another persons house ever feed a child?
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Is there ANYBODY here who can understand what this blippin’ idiot is jabbering about?
August 21st, 2008 at 10:39 pmYeah, being a “kept man” is always a big turn-on for voters.
That’s a good strategy. I think you guys should run with it.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:40 pmCue up Louie Prima singing “Just A Gigolo”…
IIIIIIIII… I ain’t got nobody…
August 21st, 2008 at 10:48 pmLet’s not hear anymore of that Obama elitist tripe from McCain. So sick of hearing Rethugs call black white and white black. Try speaking sense you idiots.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:54 pmI think they tried that, gus.
They found it didn’t really work for them.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:02 pmgus smith Says:
Let’s not hear anymore of that Obama elitist tripe from McCain. So sick of hearing Rethugs call black white and white black. Try speaking sense you idiots.
I think Marvel Comics has created a new villain in the vein of McCain in Mr. Negative. He really expounds on the black/white, white/black thing…plus being a baddy and being a rich a-hole.
Then again…if the Evangelicals are willing to have video game burnings, that go for that book burning veneer, what would happen if they started looking for the hidden messages in the comic books?! Yeah, I want them to say Captain America is an anarchist!
August 21st, 2008 at 11:27 pmSo when he was 30 she was 13.
OR when he was 25 she was 8.
Yeah, that sounds much better.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:29 pmSo, we all now the anthrax guy is dead because Bushco told us so. Idiot.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:34 pmThey’re NOT investment property because they’re not rented out. Only one is lived in by somebody else and that is a condo lived in by Cindy’s aunt.
And most states have homestead laws that say if a married person has spent even one evening in a home owned by his spouse he has homestead rights to that property.
Do you know anything about anything?
August 21st, 2008 at 11:37 pmPeople in Glass Houses Shouldn’t Throw Stones!! Obama, who earned $4.2 million in 2007 is hardly in a position to call McCain an elitist over his houses!! Obama pocketed his book royalties and earnings to the tune of $3.9 million plus in 2007.
Senator McCain donates his royalties from his books to charitable organizations. This sum has totaled over $1,800,000 since 1998 when he signed his first book deal. Senator McCain’s book income of $256,898 for 2006 and 2007 is comprised of earnings for Faith of My Fathers, Worth the Fighting For, Why Courage Matters, Character is Destiny, and Hard Call. .
Beginning in 1991, Senator McCain has also donated the increase in his Senate salary for that year and each subsequent year to charity because he opposed the Congressional pay increase at that time and pledged not to accept the pay raises. The cumulative total of these donations is over $450,000.
And in 2007 McCain contributed 27% of his income (AGI) to charity. The Obamas 2007 charity contribution percent? 5.8%. So who is the elitist???
August 21st, 2008 at 11:40 pmstopthesmear Says:
So who is the elitist???
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Gee… I wonder how much Cindy McCain is worth?
Why look… we have that information right here!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/cindy-mccains-fortune-pro_n_94833.html
Cindy McCain’s Fortune Provides Senator With Private Jets, Vacation Homes…
… As heiress to her father’s stake in Hensley & Co. of Phoenix, Cindy McCain is an executive whose worth may exceed $100 million. Her beer earnings have afforded the GOP presidential nominee a wealthy lifestyle with a private jet and vacation homes at his disposal, and her connections helped him launch his political career…
Wow… A hunnerd mil… naaaaaaaaaah… them Mccain’s aren’t “elitist”…
August 21st, 2008 at 11:53 pmsectionop92 @#139
Nice screenplay!
August 21st, 2008 at 11:59 pmI guess it doesn’t really matter that McIIIrd didn’t actually write HIS books. And he gives freely to charity, great!
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 amWhy does he accept 58,000 measly bucks a year from a military disability pension?
Why does Obama keep his royalties and earnings from his books? Even without the book earnings he earned $260,000. Obama earned 10 times what McCain did in 2007 but gave away significantly less. Either he’s stingy or greedy….or both.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:13 amSo, Obama ordering orange juice at a coffee shop is proof for the media that he is out of touch with the average American—but McCain not knowing how many houses he has is not? Okay I get it.
stopthesmear,
Aren’t you forgetting that McCain is living off his wife’s $100-200 million inheritance? Important detail I would think.
And how can he accept the disability when we always hear that he is able to work a 70-hour week? Sounds contradictory.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:28 amGee. You think that maybe Senator Obama, as a young man with young children, is trying to build a nest egg? Doesn’t he have every right to endeavor to build a fortune for his descendants ala Cindy’s pappy?
And is it not possible that Mr. Cindy McCain doesn’t need to worry about amassing a personal fortune because his wife’s would dwarf anything he could accomplish on his own merits?
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 amDo they try out the rookie trolls late at night now?
Is this new stopthesmear troll someone’s nephew or something? How did he get this job?
Sheesh. At least let them graduate high school before you send ‘em out here in the line of fire, guys!
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:44 amI think they are refugees from Flippy McSpin’s web site, ralph. They reek of “Spreading the message” and all that. I hear that the one who disrupts the most threads wins a solid plastic, two-faced, commemorative coin.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:50 am.
The McMedia is bought and paid for by the lobbyists working on the McCampaign. Who cares how many McMansions Johnny has, or McWives, or McKids or McLobbyists he’s employed… ?
I mean, you gotta expect some McSlack for McSenile… YES?
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August 22nd, 2008 at 12:59 am#168 stopthesmear
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:01 amTROLLING OFF TOPIC! FLAGGED!
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August 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 amJohnny was but a sprite 17 when Cindi was just a sperm and egg…
Everyone. The fix is in. McCain wins. Coutry dead. Time to move on. Just let it die.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 amIt’s not over yet, scytherius. This site makes me more hopeful.
http://www.pollster.com/
G’night good people.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:15 amYou too trolls.
Do you think someone can get the old man to loose his temper in a debate???!!! That would be priceless.I’ll be watching:) The Real McCain.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:28 am… and not “a huge deal” because “at this point in his national political career McCain is not going to be transformed into a super rich elitist. He’s just not, the voters won’t buy it.
But that’s precisely the point, he is “a super rich elitist.” People like Paul Kane have drunk the Kool-Aid for so long now they’ve forgotten what reality tastes like. For years Republicans have painted liberals as elitists for their high minded ideals when in fact it’s been the wealthy conservatives that were the elitists all along. This is so transparently obvious it almost seems silly to have to say it but it just goes to show how completely screwed up our political discourse has become because of the liars, criminals and charlatans we have running this country.
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August 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 amHeh, The lady who wears the pants in the family didnt inform the kept man how many houses she bought.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:08 amLooks like McCain owes them another BBQ at his ranch in Sidona, AZ…
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 am@JimAK –
I noticed you basically stopped posting (except for the nonsense “white powder” story) after trying to get us to believe that the WaPo article would provide the same trash as the NY Post (aka the Faux News of the print world).
I guess you decided to give up after you actually read the last line of the article you quoted:
Hoist on your own petard, weren’t you?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:32 pmKudos to the wretched scum sucking sacks of maggot puke, commonly known as the “mainstream” media, for another crack sell-job on a brain damaged electrified corpse.
How, like exactly, is this mouth foaming zombie supposed to be such a foreign policy wizard when he can’t even keep his own fiances straight? Don’t worry, I’ll field this one: Because he’s only good at one thing–kissing corporate ass. If this pathetic piece of old school offal actually gets “elected” that is the moment “America” will become the world’s largest sick joke and leper colony.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:37 pmNo..of course the MSM doesn’t think its a big deal…they are owned by corporations themselves…G.E., Sinclair, Gannett, Disney (lets not forget good old Rupet..etc.,) and they might loose their monopolies if that “other guy” gets in…the word anti-trust scares the beejesus ought of them…they might loose the “publics thought” control…
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pmGet off Johnny’s back. When you are really really really rich, you own lots of stuff, or your wife owns lots of stuff or both of you own lots of stuff together and a bookkeep keeps track of it for you. So how the hell is he supposed to know. That’s the accountants job. They run the day to day finances. You keep a credit card in your pocket for those times an aid isn’t handy to pick up the tab. Once or twice a year, or after the credit card bill hits the quater million mark, (remember John and Cindy are carrying over 200 grand in credit card debt?) the accountant will give you a call to let you know where you’re at. The super super wealthy just live a little bit differently than you and I. And when Johnny finds himself bouncing freely from one residence to another, there is really no way of knowing if he owns the place, his wife does, they both do or maybe they are visiting friends. He’s old for pete’s sake how does he know?
Of course someone who lives like this calling someone who doesn’t an elists seems like a stretch.
August 23rd, 2008 at 6:32 pmLooks like Reagan’s trickle down economics worked pretty well for the McCains.
Believe me, it works pretty damned well for a lot of the blowdried media airheads, too – not to mention their corporate masters. Do you really think they’re defending McCain this way just because they like him??
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