American Family Association launches protest against Hallmark.
American Family Association launches protest against Hallmark.
Today, the right-wing American Family Association (AFA) announced a protest of Hallmark for its decision to start selling gay marriage greeting cards. AFA wants Hallmark to “stop promoting a lifestyle that is not only unhealthy, but is also illegal in 48 states.” From the protest site:
We’ve all given or received Hallmark Cards – remember their slogan – “when you care enough to send the very best.” But promoting same-sex marriage for profit is not the very best for families or our nation.
Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed. Let them know you do not appreciate Hallmark promoting a lifestyle which is illegal in 48 states. American Greeting Cards, Hallmark’s competitor, does not offer same-sex marriage cards.
AFA also criticized Hallmark for having the secret purpose of “pushing[ing] same-sex marriage.” More on AFA’s previous boycotts here.
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Hahahah!! Like we couldn't have seen *this* coming!!!
Idiots.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:20 pmHallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.
So is the Chimpy administration , you dopes.............
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:20 pmI guess in their eyes hate really is a family value.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:23 pmAm I the only one hoping Daryll starts his weekend early and skips this thread?
I'm really worried about him. He seems to be trolling too hard lately.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:23 pmBut promoting same-sex marriage for profit is not the very best for families or our nation.
But promoting an illegal and idiotic invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation that had never provoked nor attacked us is ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 pmAFA also criticized Hallmark for having the secret purpose of “pushing[ing] same-sex marriage.”
By that logic, Hallmark also has the secret purpose of pushing illness, accidents and death since they sell sympathy and get-well cards.
They'd make a bundle if they began marketing, "I'm so sorry you're a republican idiot," cards. Lawdy, they couldn't keep 'em on the shelves....
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:26 pmHallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.
And the AFA is a paranoid, homophobic, wacko right wing organization. Full of paranoid, homophobic, right wing sheeple.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:27 pm
McMetal, agreed, and that didn't turn out to the "very best" for the families of the dead, maimed, emotional crippled, displaced or tortured, either here or abroad.
But OH NO, not teh gays! Quick, run and hide!
PEACE
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:27 pmThese people are the biggest scam artists ever. They know full well that these boycotts will lead to nothing. Their sole purpose is to consume money and regurgitate hatred.
The people who give them cash are pitible, naive dupes. This is akin to helping the finance minister of Nigeria move his funds to the US in exchange for a cut of the action.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:28 pmIf the AFA is against something, then I'm for it.
Proud to be everything the right-wing hates.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pmHow is being gay more offensive than a fascist sheep?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pmAmerican Family Association (AFA) says:
... But promoting Mother's day, Father's day, Valentines day, Christmas, Hanuka, Labor day, Chinese New Year, your third grade teacher's B-day, Daryll's genital warts(that idea was dropped), etc. for profit is a good thing?
And lastly, when the DCC and the RNC are sponsored by the same private Corporation driven by greed, where's that outrage?
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August 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pmI say let's boycott American Family Association, obviously driven by misappropriated intolerance and self righteousness. Think Progress and other organizations do not promote such bigotry, show your support to those who represent TRUE American values.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:31 pmHallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed. Let them know you do not appreciate Hallmark promoting a lifestyle which is illegal in 48 states. American Greeting Cards, Hallmark’s competitor, does not offer same-sex marriage cards.
Um, the lifesytle isn't illegal, last time I looked.
But gay marriage is.
This about hatred, pure and simple. They don't merely reject the lifestyle, they actively hate those who live it.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:31 pmBut gay marriage is legal in the other 2 states, and the 'lifestyle' is legal in the 48 states where people get married even without state approval. What, Hallmark shouldn't service the 30 million people who can get married legally and the 270 million in states where people still get married?
Wow these kooks sure are loose on the screws...
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 pmThe AFA is based in Tupelo, Mississippi (no surprise there) and the founder is named Don E. Wildmon. Now tell me that doesn't sound like a gay porn pseudonym!
Reminds of George Castanza's Buck Naked!
PEACE
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:37 pmHallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.
Wait, now suddenly the profit motive is evil to the right wing? Interesting.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:38 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
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Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.
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Heh…The AFA sound like Leftwingers with all their talk of “greed”.
Personally, I think Hallmark should sell what ever they think people will buy. More power to them.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Sounds like you're an imbecile ..............
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:38 pmHomosexuality is illegal in 48 states? Where did they get that?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:39 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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Homosexuality is illegal in 48 states? Where did they get that?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
daryll's stupid ass................
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:40 pmWould be interesting to find out what percentage of the AFA is gay? Usually the ones who whine outloud the most about other peoples sexual orientation, are gay themselves!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pmGood thing they have lawyers sending out press releases. It's my understanding that only a handful of states have deemed same-sex marriage illegal, while it's mostly unlawful in all but two.
Hard to believe they argue that the lifestyle is illegal...maybe they were talking about Saudi Arabia.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pmThe AFA is so awful. I used to work for a book chain in which ONE of our over 1,000 stores was found to have a book (which that store had received from a local distributor) that some would say was a little risque (operative word little) and next thing we knew we were the target of one of this group's campaigns and receiving bags and bags of identically written letters from people accusing us of selling porn and vowing to never set foot in one of our stores.
Which was a bit of a shame considering that by the wording of the letters they could probably have benefitted from reading something other than the hate-filled literature coming from the AFA!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
Heh…The AFA sound like Leftwingers with all their talk of “greed”.
How lame can you get. Hey RNC, it's time to send in the second string. Your first string is failing miserably.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:43 pmThe liberal blogosphere should counter these ridiculous boycotts with reverse boycotts. We should encourage our supporters to buy even more Hallmark cards to make up for any dent the AFA boycott might have. Show these companies it is good business to promote equality. I'm personally going to buy a bunch of Hallmark cards I don't even need, especially cards for gay marriage.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pmAmerican Family Association (AFA) says:
NO State outlaws marriage between couples of the same sex. To say that same sex marriage is illegal in 48 States asserts that there are Laws that make it illegal. This is a bold face misleading assertion. Only TWO States have legally recognized the ability of same sex couples to get married.
The lifestyle is no less "unhealthy" than that of straight people. In fact, HETEROSEXUAL FEMALES are at risk for AIDS... it's not because they're gay or even lead unhealthy lifestyles, it's because the ignorant society we live in promotes unprotected sex because birth control and abstinence are deemed morally unnatural and unhealthy by this same group.
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August 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
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MCMetal,
Say, did you choose the name MCMetal because you enjoy listening to heavy metal music?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:43 pm
No
It's because it is the music I play ............
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
MCMetal,
Say, did you choose the name MCMetal because you enjoy listening to heavy metal music?
Did you choose your name because you need some whine to go with it?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pmOH NOES! TEH GAYS will come and sex you all...
these cards must be an insidious plot by TEH HOMO-SEX-YOU-ALL AGENDA to secretly release a virus or gas that will turn every American into a sex-crazed OH NOES! HOMO-SEX-YOU-ALL!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:45 pmEven though I support gay marriage, can I still boycott hallmark? cards are dumb.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:48 pmIf Wildmon isn't gay,he's lying and God doesn't like liars! Take a good look at him at the "Carpenters Bench, Don Wildmom." He's got Fruit-Cake written all over him!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:48 pmKlem Kiddilehopper Says:
He’s got Fruit-Cake written all over him!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Someone go "postal" with a Sharpie ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:49 pmBilbo(@1:44)
:-)
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:50 pmHallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.
But but but.....I thought greed was good to wingnuts.....?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:53 pmSo the new threat is people will become gay to get a Hallmark card? Please...
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:53 pmAmerican Family Association (AFA) Website says:
I didn't know HATE was a family value to promote.
I didn't know HATE was a religious value to promote.
I didn't know HATE was an American value to promote.
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August 22nd, 2008 at 1:54 pmThen you must be doubly embarrassed by getting continuously pwned by someone like MCM.
How sad you must be.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:56 pmSo, where was AFA's indignation, contempt and call to arms (so to speak) when Hallmark started marketing Divorce cards? You know, the so-sorry-to-hear-you-finally-left-his/her-tired-a$$-but-didn't-you-know-we-all-hated-him/her-so-are-you-ready-for-some-binge-drinking messages.
Is divorce now good for families and the nation?
Oh, wait...do as I say, not as I do? Did I get it right?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:57 pm#37, Cheese and Crackers...
Flagged - TROLLING FOR PERSONAL INSULTS AT POSTERS
Can TP please ban?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:57 pmHow is the lifestyle illegal?
Same sex couples are not allowed to marry in most states, but that's a far cry from it being illegal. In Washington for example we are working on good domestic partnership laws. Although people here still cannot marry they can receive many of the benefits of marriage by entering into a domestic partnership.
And, many people consider true marriage to be something sanctioned by a church. Although the state may consider a couple a domestic partnership, they may be married in the eyes of God by several churches.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:57 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
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MCMetal,
No
It’s because it is the music I play …………
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Figures…Heavy Metal music is almost as adolescent as the comments you leave here. All bravado, no substance.
I’ve always thought of heavy metal as the professional wrestling of music…All show, fake talent, marketed to pre-pubecent boys.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Because the guys in "Dream Theater" are 'amateurs' ?
BTW
Your "thought" on what constitutes 'substance' in music is backed up by what knowledge and experience you have in the field ?
What exactly do you play ?
The radio ?
Thanks for your useless 2 cents and insight into why you're constantly mocked here ; you know as much about music as Chimpy does intelligence and/or public speaking........
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:57 pmbarracks9,
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:59 pmThe correct saying is,
"Judge not... unless you're Republican."
stateofthedivision Says:
So the new threat is people will become gay to get a Hallmark card? Please…
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm
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No, they worry about the risk of secondhand gay infecting the straight wedding cards and destroying the sanctity of marriage.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:59 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
Figures…Heavy Metal music is almost as adolescent as the comments you leave here. All bravado, no substance.
I’ve always thought of heavy metal as the professional wrestling of music…All show, fake talent, marketed to pre-pubecent boys.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
And yet MCMetal kicks your ass on a regular basis.
Suck for you, whiny-assed titty baby.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:01 pmI think the real problem here is the gay cards are going to infect the ziggy and garfield cards. won't someone think of the children?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:01 pmWhatever happened to the "free market"...? Heck, I thought wingnuts were all for making money any way they can - even off gay people!
Oh well, I guess that's different.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:02 pmCheese and Crackers Says: "... always thought of heavy metal as the professional wrestling of music…All show, fake talent, marketed to pre-pubecent boys."
Oh, the projection is so telling!
I guess at mid-50's we are considered "pre-pubescent boys"?
Long live Heavy Metal!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pmThese guys just can't keep from lying. Their claim that Hallmark needs to , "stop promoting a lifestyle that is not only unhealthy, but is also illegal in 48 states." is false. Being Gay or Lesbian is not illegal, and homosexual sex is legal as well. Only marriage is prohibited in 48 states.
The AFA paints with a broad brush and needs to be refuted when they lie!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pmProof of Hallmarks greed has been visible to anybody who paid 2.95 for a card and envelope!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:05 pmWow,
Over 50 posts and no sight of Damnation Daryll...
3... 2... 1...
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August 22nd, 2008 at 2:05 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
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MCMetal,
What exactly do you play ?
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I play jazz trombone.
Face it, heavy metal is children’s music.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I started off playing trumpet ..............From the age of 7
You lose...........Progressive jazz , which is incorporated in A LOT of the metal I listen to and play , is worthy ; straight jazz is self-aggrandizing and useless crap.
Kind of like you.................
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 pmThe same people who while advocating the rights of the unborn , look the other way as their chosen leaders kill more than a million men women and children in a country that had nothing to do with 911 but does happen to sit on one of the worlds lartgest oil supplies .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 pmFantasy is the Hallmark of the ignorant.
So if straight people go into a store and see a same-sex card they will then run out of the store [without buying a card] and become gay?
snark
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:07 pmMax, I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Maybe he is out picketing his local Hallmark store in his ambiguously gay-looking outfit.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:08 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
I play jazz trombone.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
How very.....homo-erotic.
Get over yourself, you pompous snob.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:09 pmBobwurst Says:
I think the real problem here is the gay cards are going to infect the ziggy and garfield cards. won’t someone think of the children?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
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Garfield maybe, but Ziggy -- a guy who lives alone with a bunch of pets, never wears pants, and hasn't had a date since 1969? Somehow I doubt he's "at risk" of getting gay.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pmMCMetal Says:
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Cheese and Crackers Says:
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MCMetal,
What exactly do you play ?
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I play jazz trombone.
Face it, heavy metal is children’s music.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Didn't you really mean "Jim's big boner" ?
I guarantee you can't even play the lottery correctly .....
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:11 pmFrom a professional jazz piano (among other instruments) player, let me just say this: some metal is good and challenging, some isn't. I did my own stints with metal bands back in the day.
parroting pre-written sheet music on trombone, not so much.
I play in an improv group and we are currently recording our second album. ALL of us are far too intelligent to EVER vote for a 3rd Cheney term.
Besides, none of us are cowardly enough
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:11 pmMax-1 Says: #46
barracks9,
The correct saying is,
“Judge not… unless you’re Republican.”
Thanks, Max-1. I first tried to type "IOKIYAR", but I realized that I didn't have any left in stock.
And to your comment #43, I'll second that ban. (Does is sound to anyone else like C&C got repeatedly rejected by those pre-pubescent boys?)
No one on TP would be so base as to impugn C&C by suggesting that C&C's musical tastes were as sophistacated as, say, John Tesh or Yanni. Mmm...now there's talent.
Snark Off.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 pmFace it, traditional jazz is child's music.
(Wow! This is easy!)
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 pmHey metal ...... no offence but don't dis the only truly American artform .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 pmSantana says COltaneis is greatest inspirationand many believe myself included that his playing is the actual reason there is a guitar solo in rock.
Bird lives !
good_golly5,
"2. I read the links, and only saw an e-mail petition drive. I didn’t see a reference to a boycott, except in the TP story itself."
Uh... did you read the email? It says:
"American Greeting Cards, your competitor, will be getting my business."
And now we have another troll attacking musical preferences of the posters... wow they have nothing... and probably don't even realize it.
btw, there is much talent in a lot of metal that would blow most jazz out of the water... I happen to be a fan of both, but you are a pretentious idiot.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
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MCMetal,
I prefer to play traditional jazz…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GohBkHaHap8
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
How friggin' old are you ?
60 ?
Duke Ellington is fine music to lounge around and listen to and enjoy while having a drink or two ; but you're attempting to classify/quantify metal and the musicians who play it as either kids or amateurs ?
I'll bet you can't play half the material I can ; and I'm talking about EVERYTHING.
I guarantee you would be useless if I gave you a classical or operatic piece to play...................
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pmgood_golly5 Says
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:29 pm
2. I read the links, and only saw an e-mail petition drive. I didn’t see a reference to a boycott, except in the TP story itself.
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That's a good point, and worth mentioning. Unlike the AFA McDonald's boycott, which actually proclaimed "boycott" on their link: ( http://boycottmcdonalds.com/ ), this one doesn't say "boycott" and it doesn't even ask that people quit shopping there (which I find a bit odd). I have no idea why an officer of one company who chooses to sit on the board of the NGLCC -- a move that had NO impact on McDonald's customers until AFA gave the issue some publicity -- merits a boycott, but another company selling greeting cards aimed a gay market does not. How does AFA make these decisions? And what little nuances determine whether something rates a boycott or an e-mail petition drive?
But whether it's a real boycott or an e-mail petition drive, the result will be the same as it is with every flap the AFA raises. It will either be ignored completely, or it will provide free publicity that will help Hallmark, by letting people who want these cards know where they can get them.
In fact, it may boomerang even worse than that. Hallmark has already said that carrying these cards is up to each individual store -- probably because the demand for them would be highest in states where gay marriage or civil union is legal. However, gays have private commitment ceremonies everywhere, and as word of these cards gets out, they may be asking local Hallmarks in places like Omaha to carry them. It would really twist AFA's panties in a wad if this went viral due to their efforts.
By the way -- I generally don't buy greeting cards because they have gotten so expensive. I can make really nice ones on my home computer and printer for a lot less, and I can make them for any occasion I choose (whether AFA likes it or not).
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pmhaha, the cheesy cracker posts a link to a video of duke ellington
why not a video of YOUR OWN STUFF? are you just a parrot?
here's my group rehearsing for the new album in the studio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbD7IaAj3mc
cheesy cracker can't even be original
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 pmLet me try that again , Santana says John coltrane is his greatest inspiration and the reason there is a guitar solo in rock .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 pmRantingTommy Says:
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From a professional jazz piano (among other instruments) player, let me just say this: some metal is good and challenging, some isn’t. I did my own stints with metal bands back in the day.
parroting pre-written sheet music on trombone, not so much.
I play in an improv group and we are currently recording our second album. ALL of us are far too intelligent to EVER vote for a 3rd Cheney term.
Besides, none of us are cowardly enough
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I am talking Joe Satch , Yngwie , Steve Vai metal playing , Tom........
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 pmCan you play Giant steps ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 pmCan you flat a fifth , do tritone substitutions and chew bubble gum at the same time ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pmfreeman Says:
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Can you play Giant steps ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Coltrane ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pmRantingTommy
That you on boards ?
One of them a Korg ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:19 pmmetal, those are some talented players (mebbe not yngwie so much, he's pretty soul-less, but blazing speed)
like i said, i did the metal thing too back when i had more hair, lol
i enjoy playing progressive, improvisational jazz/blues/fusion stuff now, because it stretches me as a musician more than metal did
that said, cheesy cracker obviously doesn't have a clue
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:20 pmfreeman Says:
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Can you flat a fifth , do tritone substitutions and chew bubble gum at the same time ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
No
But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmYeah it changes key like every 3rd chord and the chords are going by FAST . It's killer.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmya, that's me, and it's a korg piano (the other keys are just a midi controller for the soft synths, i don't use it much in the jazz group)
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmMc metal LOL
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmfreeman Says:
Can you flat a fifth , do tritone substitutions and chew bubble gum at the same time ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
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Isn't flatting the fifth the same as a tritone substitution?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmRantingTommy Says:
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metal, those are some talented players (mebbe not yngwie so much, he’s pretty soul-less, but blazing speed)
like i said, i did the metal thing too back when i had more hair, lol
i enjoy playing progressive, improvisational jazz/blues/fusion stuff now, because it stretches me as a musician more than metal did
that said, cheesy cracker obviously doesn’t have a clue
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Know who Yngwie is ?
Ritchie Blackmore with more speed............
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pmRantingTommy Says:
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MCMetal Says:
RantingTommy
That you on boards ?
One of them a Korg ?
ya, that’s me, and it’s a korg piano (the other keys are just a midi controller for the soft synths, i don’t use it much in the jazz group)
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Bassist using an Alembic ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:22 pmflatting a fifth just makes a major chord into a minor
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmdoh, thats a third, i should read closer
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmflatting a fifth makes a diminished chord
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmwould repugs weel comfortable if the wittle cards are for twins, buddies, girlfriends or people who don't "look" gay (or whatever)?
when these hypocrites start running people out of town like craig et al then they can get all frenzy about cartoons or people's own damn business.
I bet these are the same people who didn't like Hallmark making ethnic cards or Band-Aid making different hues of brown band-aids.
these dumbasses are warped and peeping toms.
Gays don't do anything that so-called straight people do.
Phony asses.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmDjango rules and with only 2 1/2 fingers on his left hand ! Ever heard Joe pass do Douce ambiance ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmDon't tell me, Dancing Queen is your favorite song too! And what instruments do you play, water glasses?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmFCUK EM!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmAugust 22nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
McMetal, you owe me a new key board and monitor.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pmi guess cheesy cracker ran off after being exposed as a fraud
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pmWhy does the AFA hate Americans?
At least the ones that are not a rubber stamp of themselves....superstitious hate mongers.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmmisshusseinmolly,
It is my understanding that the email petition is a "threat" of boycott, but you're right about it either being ignored or give Hallmark more publicity.
I personally hate store-bought cards, but every one of my friends, gay & strait will be getting one of these cards.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmfreeman Says:
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Django rules and with only 2 1/2 fingers on his left hand ! Ever heard Joe pass do Douce ambiance ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
I have a ton of respect for both gentlemen ; however , I view Segovia as the best guitarist of all time , followed by John McLaughlin...........
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmNo a flat fifth is a tritone when doing substitutions yes but you can also use a flatted fifth in say a minor seventh chord as a substitution much as a diminished chord though it isn't one .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmDaryll got deleted yesterday and may have to sneak back under a different name like Cheese and Wankers.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
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McMetal, you owe me a new key board and monitor.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Why ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:28 pmpretty close there metal I'll admit but I put it to you who can match the Django story... A gypsy , his wagon caught on fire , jumped in to save his wife and child and burnt his pink and ring finger so badly they were beyond use .... then went on to become the greatest guitar player of his generation ......
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pmCOuld have been the monkeys paw ?
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pretty close there metal I’ll admit but I put it to you who can match the Django story… A gypsy , his wagon caught on fire , jumped in to save his wife and child and burnt his pink and ring finger so badly they were beyond use …. then went on to become the greatest guitar player of his generation ……
COuld have been the monkeys paw ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Certain individuals , whether through genetic superiority or "luck" , can adapt and exceed expectations , I guess.
Django is incredible , and his story is the stuff of legend .......
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:32 pmMCMetal, freeman, you're missing the point. Cheesey made a jazz reference and used the oh so obscure ... wait a minute ... Duke Ellington! ahahahahahahahahaha
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 pmRantingTommy Says
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
flatting a fifth just makes a major chord into a minor
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I thought flatting the third made a major chord into a minor?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 pmYou two did send him running though.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmToast,
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pmyour a physicist and a jazz musician ,my hats of too you . Ever the prajna paramita ?
Molly your right, you would have to flat both the 3rd and the 5th and you would have a half dimished chord .You guys are sharp.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:38 pmfreeman Says:
Toast,
your a physicist and a jazz musician ,my hats of too you . Ever the prajna paramita ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
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Who, me? No, I'm a web geek and a progressive rock guitarist. I just happen to really like physics and jazz. :)
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
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RantingTommy Says
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
flatting a fifth just makes a major chord into a minor
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I thought flatting the third made a major chord into a minor?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
It does ........
A flatted third and flatted fifth gives you a diminshed chord.....While a raised fifth gives you an augmented chord.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmA corporation driven by greed . . . wow, what a novel concept. Who'd have thought?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmCheese and Crackers Says:
MCMetal,
What exactly do you play ?
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I play jazz trombone.
Face it, heavy metal is children’s music.
Wow. Sounds like a typical Reichwing Elitist, complete with that special twist of arrogance AND ignorance!
Cheese...the name says it all.
BTW, why don't you look up the album "Art Jackson's Atrocity" - Miles dug it - and re-evaluate your ridiculous assertion.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmGotta go do time at the Art Gallery now. I think I'll bring my guitar , chao .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmThanks for the link RantingTommy; very nice.
I got a chance to catch Joe Bonamassa at the Fargo Bluesfest last weekend. Great young talented guitarist.
I played for 30 years on stage; got tired of only having Sunday afternoons for a life.
That said, I love all forms of music.(May have to keep Rap off the list.)
Great to know we have some musicians in the blog world. Keep up the licks, guys...they seem to disappear quicker than you might think.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmfreeman Says:
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Toast,
your a physicist and a jazz musician ,my hats of too you . Ever the prajna paramita ?
I think if you ignore the zealots on this site you'll find a great many educated and intelligent people worth exchanging ideas with.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmMCMetal Says:
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IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
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McMetal, you owe me a new key board and monitor.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Why ?
Because I blow gatorade all over mine at some of your comments/responses to comments. LOL.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:42 pmfreeman Says:
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Gotta go do time at the Art Gallery now. I think I’ll bring my guitar , chao .
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 pm
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August 22nd, 2008 at 2:42 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
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MCMetal Says:
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IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
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McMetal, you owe me a new key board and monitor.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Why ?
Because I blow gatorade all over mine at some of your comments/responses to comments. LOL.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Oh , all right
Maybe TP can add a warning label to my posts ..............
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:43 pmGee MC thanx for the advice .... i think .... did you get that from a Hallmark card ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:46 pmOh, hell. Now I have to put Hallmark cards on my shopping list!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmfreeman Says:
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Gee MC thanx for the advice …. i think …. did you get that from a Hallmark card ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Nah
I'm the blog world's "Mr Deeds" , looking to sell own of my ideas to Hallmark.......
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmI only have to put in an hour as my wife has been there all morning before me and we have gallery duty till 1 , if the relief shows up when it's supposed to !
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmMaybe some of our musical talent should write a rock opera on the Bush years ....?
"OWN" ????????
One ..........Sheesh
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:50 pmfreeman Says:
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I only have to put in an hour as my wife has been there all morning before me and we have gallery duty till 1 , if the relief shows up when it’s supposed to !
Maybe some of our musical talent should write a rock opera on the Bush years ….?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Sure anyone would want to sit through that entire comic-tragedy ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:51 pmI am glad someone is finally taking on the important issues.
By the way, did AFA boycott/protest Haliburton when they served poison water to our troops? Did they raise a stink when Haliburton/KBR was paid for meals they didn't provide for the troops? Where's the AFA outrage about KBR substandard wiring in shower trailers in Iraq that killed over 15 Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines?
Oh well, it doesn't matter, at least they get the most important issues.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:03 pmAFA also criticized Hallmark for having the secret purpose of “pushing[ing] same-sex marriage.”
Makes you wonder what they're pushing by selling Halloween cards. The AFA should boycott them for promoting satanism.
Seriously though, why not contact American Greetings and request that they sell gay marriage cards as well?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:44 pmI saw the news piece on Hallmark cards, and couldn't help thinking: "The culture wars are over...game, set, match!"
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmHave some of these members of the AFA ever been in some Hallmark stores and realized...you know, that some of these clerks and store owners don't exactly "play for their side"? I know, these people couldn't spot a gay person "working" in any store unless they stapled a sign to their foreheads with the word written in bold crayon. But if they're at the bar or the gym...it's too obvious, because after a few drinks these "heterosexual family men/women" suddenly "know" which "gay" people are "attractive" to them.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm#
Max-1 Says:
Wow,
Over 50 posts and no sight of Damnation Daryll…
Max - I think he got nuked a few days ago on another thread - all of his posts disappeared after that - poor little homophobic bigot.
BTW - when I get cards for my gay (or sometimes straight) friends, there is a place here in Denver called Le'Sensual - they have all kinds of x-rated cakes and cards. The place is a riot!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:02 pmMuzz,
I love that place, too. They have some great stuff.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:53 pmThe sexual order of creation is obvious. Male & Female belong to each other.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pmOne doesn’t need the Bible to understand that much. It's clear to anyone who respects the laws of nature that two men having *** with each other is wrong and a sickness in need of treatment and cure not encouragement and promotion.
Hallmark offering Gay marriage cards is like offering greeting cards that celebrate how wonderful lung cancer & smoking is.
bg2075 Says:
OOPS! Looks like we have Daryll's reincarnation here!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm126. You miss one glaring point...GAY MARRIAGE does NOT kill...
okay, maybe brain cells in a wingnut...
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pmSomeday 126, Mother Nature will try those gay penguins in her court and perhaps cast judgment on them, right? After all, they are in violation of the "laws of nature," right?
Sometimes you guys are too much!
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:41 pmupside99 - I love to watch the look on people's faces when they open one of those cards
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pmHello 128 & 129,
The obvious intent of sexual union in nature is new life. Gay marriage offers no new life and ultimately just death without lineage.
I of course have nothing against penquins...they just do penguin kinds of things. Your not a penguin are you?
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pmthat may be true...but so do many marriages here...
So by your logic, people who are sterile should not have the right to get married. Those who are not planning on having children should not get married. I see. Thanks for your help!
Nope, not a penguin, but I would think that the laws of nature would be a little gray than you would like to suggest. Take care!
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:05 pmThanks for the link, Amanda.
I'm thinking we should go ahead and purchase every Boycott[American company].com domain name out there, since the AFA plans to eventually target them all.
-Jeremy/G-A-Y
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:21 pm.
Nope,
Daryll lives...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/22/mccain-flip-kool-aid/#comment-5178410
He's just laying low.
Why won't Damnation Daryll play with gay Hallmark cards?
Is Daryll afraid of paper cuts?
I don't see how he could be.
He sleeps with his Bible...
... That's how it got perverted, don't-cha-know.
.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 pmOops,
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:24 pm"laying low" was meant as "He's in the closet on this one."
.
Dear Daryll,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=Dh-q5vT9fIY
.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pmAFA wants Hallmark to “stop promoting a lifestyle that is not only unhealthy, but is also illegal in 48 states.”
This is factually incorrect. Gay marriage cannot BE illegal in 48 states and legal in two. A legal gay marriage cannot be performed in 48 states that is not the same thing. The fair faith clause of the Constitution is clear on this issue One state CANNOT fail to honor the legality of what another state legally does. They cannot say people are not married who are legally married in another state this is pretty black letter.
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:56 pmbg2075 Says:
The sexual order of creation is obvious. Male & Female belong to each other.
One doesn’t need the Bible to understand that much. It’s clear to anyone who respects the laws of nature that two men having *** with each other is wrong and a sickness in need of treatment and cure not encouragement and promotion.
The sickness in need of treatment is ignorance and bigotry such as yours. Homosexual behavior has ALWAYS been with us and it evident in the animal kingdom. Only human beings seem to display the sort of stupidity and arrogant bigotry of your posts though so I say stop mixing your anti-psychotics with Glennfiddich
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 pmbg2075:
August 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 amForget the penguins and think of your bonobo kin...
Oh, how ridiculous! I think I'll go out and buy a Hallmark card right now.
August 23rd, 2008 at 6:37 amName calling is a poor way to make your case that gay love is true love.
To anybody with reason it's clear to see the bodies of men/male and woman/female are designed for procreation and to compliment each other. That is one the most fundamental functions of the body and basic truths of life. Not unlike all other living creatures. That's not my logic that's nature’s logic.
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 amI admit it might only works some 95% of the time...
I do believe the love of God is such that there are ways for God's children to acommodate that without compromising the original order and intent of life...man for woman and woman for man to create new life and to experience the different realms of love and joy found within the original blueprint of family.
bg2075 Says:
Name calling is a poor way to make your case that gay love is true love.
Hey IDIOT. YOU called homsexuality an illness in need of treatment and NOW want to WHINE that I am calling YOU names? Rent a clue. You are clearly prattling about something you know nothing about. Are you really claiming that only coitus is allowable sex? The facts are clear. Homosexuality has always been with us and DOES happen in the animal kingdom. YOU kind of judgemental and frankly idiotic bigotry does however seem to be a more HUMAN trait. I repeat its your ignorance and bigotry that are an illness in need of treatment.
August 24th, 2008 at 7:40 amThe AFA is only ONE of the many that do not get what they so richly deserve
August 25th, 2008 at 1:42 amThe AFA boycott is a GOOD thing for Hallmark!
Remember the AFA Boycott of Ford because they supported equal rights for their gay employees? Their sales increased.
Remember the AFA Boycott of Disney because they supported equal rights for their gay employees and gay visitors? Attendance increased at Disney.
Go ahead, AFA, boycott anyone you want! It's apparantly helps the cause you're boycotting against! ;-)
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