Flashback: McCain didn’t know what kind of car he drove.
Flashback: McCain didn’t know what kind of car he drove.
As we noted earlier, Climate Progress’s Joe Romm wondered what the carbon footprint of Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) numerous houses might be. Asking the same question, the global warming deniers at the National Review — in an effort to attack McCain for having a climate change plan — dug up a 2007 interview revealing he knew neither how many houses he owned nor what car he drove:
In our News interview, he was asked what kind of car he drove. As with Politico’s question about home ownership, he didn’t know and had to ask a nearby aide. “A Cadillac CTS,” she told him. But then the senator was quick to point out that he had bought his daughter a Prius — the prefect (sic) halo symbol for his green pretensions. [...]
We also pressed McCain on the home issue, though at that time he was only willing to reveal two of his dwellings: one in Phoenix and a second home in Sedona. And he was quite proud of the fact that he had installed solar panels on the Sedona pad.
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McCain drives?
Holeeee crap!
He probably drives like Novak too.
that’s scary, and dangerous to anyone around his routes.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pmDoesn’t know the name of the car he drives
Doesn’t know how many homes he owns
Doesn’t know how to pronounce the Georgian president’s name (though he claims they’re “friends”)
Is there anything this wrinkled old d0uchebag actually does know ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm2008 Earth Destroyer
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:03 pmSenile old fart. Jebus.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:03 pmMCMetal:
He knows he’s against abortion even in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:04 pmMcCain also knows that he’s white. Unlike that scary guy with the odd name.
That fact alone has got to worth a couple million votes.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 pmSo the National Review’s defense of McSame is “he’s not elitist; he’s just a forgetful old man”?
Good one.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 pmSure there is.
He knows how to use his father’s credentials to get him into the naval academy, where he graduated 5th from the bottom of the class.
He knows how to crash jets and get shot down over Vietnam.
He knows how to dump crippled wives and marry elitist trophies, then ride their filthy rich coattails the rest of his life.
He knows how to flip-flop and pander.
He knows how to relinquish any honor or credibility he may have had as a ‘maverick’ by hiring former lobbyists, people he made a career on railing against, to run his campaign.
Along those same lines, he knows how to abandon all semblance of an honorable campaign he pledged to run by using Rove, et al, the same people who assassinated his character in 2000, to try and assassinate the O man’s character.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 pmOh, and the POW trump card he keeps waving?
A POW is some unfortunate guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.
A hero is the right guy (or gal) in the right place at the right time.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:07 pmHow would he know that if he doesn’t know what kind of car he drives?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:09 pmWho can feel safe with this imbecile? Just hope the polls do not begin to reflect that fact he doesn’t even know how many houses he owns until after he is the nominee.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pmThe car pictured is a Cadillac STS, not CTS.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:12 pmgood_golly5 Says:
But are his tires properly inflated. That’s the important thing, you know.
You’d know if your car wasn’t mounted on cinder blocks.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:12 pmHe don’t care. it’s not like he pays the fuel bills. Those go to Mama.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm18 MPG in the city is not that bad. What about highway MPG? You’re grasping at straws golly gee willikers.
But you know, this talk about cars kind of reminds me about Bu$h and his infamous tax credit for SUV deal. Remember that one? Where any business owner, say, someone who owns a doughnut shop, could write off a Humvee?
Yup, that’s your sort, eh?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 pmWell, it does sound like you’ll be busy then. Better get to it.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 pmReally Judge, you’re making we wonder what your point is…
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:15 pmNeocon “comedy” from Hindracker:
“I can relate, though. For example, if a reporter asked me how many ties I own, there’s no way I could answer. Just like McCain, I’d tell him he has to ask my wife. Likewise if someone wants to know how many Wii games my kids have… The truth is that McCain isn’t out of touch with “ordinary people” because he’s rich, he’s out of touch with his own domestic arrangements because he cares little about material things, and for many years has devoted his extraordinary energies not to enjoying his wife’s money, but to serving the American people.”
They actually believe this crap.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:16 pmI am really beginning to think that since there are so many THINGS on McCain’s list we are growing numb, and no one of these things are sinking in. If his record was Obama’s I would be in hiding…. like Mac’s buddies should be.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:16 pmit makes one wonder how many brain cells judge has…
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmHey, millions of Americans believe in the whole ‘rapture’ crap, something that is entirely fictional and has not one single mention anywhere in the bible.
Just goes to show you that in reality, Americans are fu(cking dumb@sses.
How do you think we got into this mess in the first place?
Zappa said it best:
I am gross and perverted
I’m obsessed ‘n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can’t look away
I make you think I’m delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin’ out
From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don’t need you
Don’t got for help…no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That’s right, folks..
Don’t touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin’ along on your livin’room floor
I am the slime from your video
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmCan’t stop the slime, people, lookit me go
McSplain: Noun, verb, POW!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmljm:
Conservatives know no shame. None whatsoever.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pmgood_golly5 Says:
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Barack Obama picked the Chrysler 300C sedan as his running mate, according to Car and Driver. The 300C is a gas guzzler, relatively speaking, netting only 18 mpg in the city. http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/ cars-trucks/ daily-news/ 080304-120185/
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Hey , Ms Ignoramus
Know what a Caddy CTS’ city mileage is ?
SIXTEEN MILES TO A GALLON 16
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pmTurns out, McCain is clueless on just about everything. He’ll be another Potemkin Republican President, along the lines of Ron Reagan and George W. Bush.
Slogan for the day: Barack “One House, One Spouse” Obama (h/t DU)
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pmI realize that since McCain has been a candidate, he probably hasn’t driven a car of his own at all. Still, it’s odd that he wouldn’t remember his last car.
Cars are rather special to most people — we tend to bond with them in ways different from the way we relate to other machinery. I just did an informal poll with my co-workers, asking each of them to name their last three cars. All could remember them with no problem — many of them also remembering the years they owned them. Of course, McCain could be the exception.
The only other person I knew who forgot what his last car was was my grandfather during the early stages of dementia.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pmIf one follows the links through the US News report, one discovers that this “relative gas guzzler” (when only the “city” mileage is considered” gets 26 mpg on the highway.
Not bad. Not bad at all for a luxury car. But then, that information wouldn’t work very well to smear Obama as an “elitist”, would it?
By the way, citizen_pain, you remind me of the proposal Schwarzenegger floated here in California for a few minutes a while back. he wanted to change the gas tax from per gallon to per mile. The obvious result would be to lower the tax on gas guzzlers and increase it fuel-efficient vehicles.
How’s that for a great idea?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pmThat’s why i encouraged him to get busy with his wonderin’.
I figured it would keep him occupied all weekend.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:22 pmHe put solar panels on his home? Why?
Ask any troll; they’ll tell you that’s a stoopid thing to do.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:22 pmHi Annie.
Say, have you heard that McCain was a POW? Which, for some reason, makes him a hero? Yup, 40 years ago an unfortunate accident turned McCain into a hero, which somehow qualifies him to be president in his twilight years.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:23 pmOh, and the POW trump card he keeps waving?
Yup. McNumbNuts is a real wimp to be using this old excuse over and over again.
After all, just think about all of GDumbya’s screw-ups over the past eight years. Has anyone ever heard him say, “it’s okay because I’m a raging alcoholic and anti-social cocaine addict you know”?
Time to butch up, McNumbNuts, and admit to your failings. No more excuses!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:24 pmGigi, maybe it’s time you broke for lunch.
You’re really running on fumes here.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:24 pmTheJudge Says:
Does McCain even drive a car? Or is he always driven like many politicians.
He does something worse, for a guy with 7, or 8, or 10 houses:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-campaign22-2008aug22,0,2934245.story
Money quote: “A nine-car motorcade took him to a nearby Starbucks early in the morning, where he ordered a large cappuccino. McCain otherwise avoided reporters.”
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:25 pmReally?
Huh. You’d think he’d mention that once or twice in his campaign. Could be a powerful distraction from all of his gaffes.
Odd that he hasn’t said a word about it. Nor has his campaign.
Odd.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmgood_golly5 Says:
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Michelle Obama drives a gas guzzling van.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Bet ya it gets a lot better gas mileage than a corporate jet , Barbie……..
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmMichelle Obama drives a gas guzzling van.
That was the campaign’s van… wanna compare the gas mileage of the van to the Cessna Citation (private jet) that Mrs. McCain takes to campaign stops?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmSeriously, Gigi. Take a half an hour. Recharge. have a Red Bull.
The McCain ‘08 beer cozy will still be there when you get back. They’re not gonna run out, believe me.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:29 pmHow many Cadillacs has he crashed?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:31 pmFrosty Cupcake Says:
Say, have you heard that McCain was a POW?
– - McCains’ been milking the POW teet since 1982:
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pmhttp://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/08/22/mccain-campaign-video-exhumed.aspx
Im Not Sure if anyone’s brought this up yet today but this is absolutely PRICELESS!
From Glen Greenwald today:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/22/gigolo/index.html
There needs to be a lot more focus of this sort on John McCain’s “character,” given that, from now until November, no matter what Obama does, the Rovian disciples managing John McCain’s candidacy will ensure his campaign is about little other than these sorts of slimy, personality-based, Freak Show attacks on Obama. It’s what the GOP does and it’s what the media is capable of disseminating.
The short version is how the Media and the reich wing painted Kerry as a Gigolo last time around and lists a lot of quotes… Everyone of them (originally attributed to Kerry) could just as easily apply to McSame! truly a must read and pass around!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pmObama Campaign’s Chevy Uplander: 16/23 mpg… the same as the smaller, more expensive Caddie that McCain drives when he remembers how…
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:33 pmAnd the Cessna Citation burns as little as 493 LBS. of fuel an hour! What a miser!
ralph the wonder llama Says:
Really?
Odd that he hasn’t said a word about it. Nor has his campaign.
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:D
PS. OT – Florida voters, don’t forget our primary Aug. 26th. Alan Grayson for District 8!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:33 pmgood_golly5 re: vans
Did you ever think that might be because she and Barack have two children? Maybe?
At least they REMEMBER what type of car they drive. This thread isn’t about gas-guzzlers vs. not gas-guzzlers, this thread is about the fact that:
McCain is either so senile or so out of touch that he:
A) Cannot remember how many houses he owns. Sorry, there is no excuse for this, no way to spin it. He’s either senile, so can’t remember, or he’s elitist/out-of-touch in that he owns so many HOUSES he doesn’t know how many he owns. House and ties cannot be compared. A house is VERY different from a tie, can’t believe I have to point that out.
B) Cannot remember what type of car he drives. He’s either so senile he can’t remember or he’s so out-of-touch that all he knows is it’s an expensive car that the Proles can’t afford.
C) The President of the United States should have enough brain power to know how many house he owns, what car he drives OR should have the decency to just own up to the fact that he owns seven houses.
Good luck spinning.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:34 pmBadmoonman:
Sorry, yeah I know. I don’t do sarcasm well on the internets.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 pmThe Cliff Notes quote from Greenwald’s column:
“I mean, [Kerry]’s been there, but he’s basically a skirt-chaser, folks. He’s a gigolo. . . .Kerry is cheap. Most gigolos are. I mean — I think it — I think it goes with the, with the definition. . . I mean, he’s a gigolo. Everybody knows this. There’s nobody in our party really has much respect for this guy and you can see it last night, but I can’t say that. I mean, you got sugar daddy wife back then. You got sugar daddy wife now. He worked his way up from a blue blood to a platinum American Express card, and it doesn’t have his name on it.”
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 pmMcBraindead doesn’t know if he wears Attends or Depends.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmHe has to ask Joe.
re: #52…..ummm, oops. The point being, what does that make McCain?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmGoo-goo says; Michelle Obama drives a gas guzzling van.
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So?
What about the tax breaks Bush had for companies and people to buy all those GAS GUZZLING HUMMMERS?
Hmmmmm?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmZimzone Says:
How many Cadillacs has he crashed?
Uhhh, Zim,
The answer there would be NONE! McCindy wears the pants in that family and wouldn’t trust Johnny Boy with the check book or the lawn tractor, let alone a car. (She also remembers the 5 planes.)
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmT
I saw that. It was some of Glenn’s best “Gotcha!” work. I love how Mann Coulter called Kerry a “kept man”.
Oops.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:37 pmHe’ll be flying on a gaz-guzzling jet just like everyone else who has to travel long distances. If there was such a thing as a solar-powered Jet, he’d probably fly in one.
Next.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:37 pmWhy, Gigi? What would you recommend?
And would you insist that John McSame make the same choice?
Seriously, Gigi — at least get some cookies from the vending machine. You’re fading fast.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pmNext up on Goober Golly’s post: Obama used public transportation in Chicago! Do you know how much pollutants diesel puts into the atmosphere!?!?!?!?!?!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:39 pmGigi, I mean it.
I’m not sure that last comment will even count towards your beer cozy.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:40 pmRalph:
Thanks, I forgot about that part.
Since Dems support green energy etc etc and getting off of oil as quickly as possible, that means they can’t use it (even though it’s the only thing available really).
Republicans however, can do whatever they want right GG?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:40 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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http://www.salon.com/ opinion/ greenwald/ 2008/ 08/ 22/ gigolo/ index.html
I saw that. It was some of Glenn’s best “Gotcha!” work. I love how Mann Coulter called Kerry a “kept man”.
Oops.
Oops to the square root of the nth level! This needs to become the center of the discussion! McGramppy Insane’s crowd is trying to make Obama an elitist when he himself is the text book definition and exactly what they pinned on Kerry incarnate!
doncha hate when those words come home to roost? ;)
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pmliberal traitor:
Obviously if anyone supports green energy they must only travel by bicycle. Or possibly skateboard.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pmOkay, he doesn’t know how many houses he and his wife own, and he doesn’t know what kind of car he drives. Does he know what brand of adult diapers he wears?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pmRepublicans love clueless dumb presidents. Then someone who they deem unelectable, but the one they really have picked as their man can manipulate the puppet strings from behind the curtain.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:45 pmTawdry:
Reagan and Dubya certainly fit that bill.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pmHey GiGi,
Do you really want to go there? If we did a side-by-side comparison of all the gaffes and flip-flops, McDepends would look like a Gold Medal winner, even surpassing Dubya.
Gotta think before you hit that Send button, K?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pmAnd there it is, GG knows she has been obliterated on her first line of attack, and now she brings out the ‘big guns.’
Matt Lauer-Tim: Slip of the tongue obviously.
April-March: Same as above
57 States: Who hasn’t had a harmless brainfart like this?
Reverend Wright: After 20 years…And McCain courted Hagee NOW, and asked him to endorse his campaign. Obama never had Wright on board as officially endorsing him. He then disavowed him. McCain had to be pecked at constantly to finally admit that the Reverend John “Hitler was doing god’s work by shepherding the Jews to Israel” Hagee was probably not a good guy to have on board his campaign.
And guess what GG, all those ‘gaffes’ or ‘memory lapses’ you listed from Obama are very different from McCain’s. Know why?
McCain’s “memory lapses” are way more frequent, they involve information about HIMSELF (pointing to either senility or elitism), and in the case of his ‘memory lapses’ regarding European geography and Muslim demographics (i.e. he doesn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia) they could actually get people KILLED and cause America to be even more FU(KED royally and laughed at louder around the world than we are now.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmWow. Michelle Obama drives a van. That’s the BEST goon_goony5 can come up with? Sad how she’s declined in ability. Cindy McCain drives her two half sisters away from daddy’s fortune. Which is worse?
You guys had better quit pointing out how McSame’s memory is fading to the point of senility. You’re going to piss the old coot off.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmThe question was: How many houses do you and Mrs. McCain own?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmAnd let us not forget that it was really John McCain who fought for and single-handedly passed the recent GI Bill…when in fact he actively campaigned against it and did everything in his power to derail it because it was TOO GENEROUS.
TOO FU(KING GENEROUS…to the TROOPS…whom we’re supposed to believe he and his party support.
TOO FU(KING GENEROUS?
FU(K YOU JOHN MCCAIN AND FU(K YOU TOO, GG. YOU ARE A WASTE OF DNA.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:52 pmHe was asked how many houses he owned.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:53 pmB.S. and a reach but also…
A lie.
He was asked how many houses he and Mrs. McCain owned…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12685.html
listen to it…
So GiGi,
Why aren’t you defending Johnny Boy instead of trying to denegrate Obama?
Are you a PUMA? Wouldn’t surprise me. Some of those Hillary-bots are still lurking.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pmAnd would he have been able to answer?
I’m pretty sure Obama would be able to answer if asked how many houses he and his wife own.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmThe audible is quite clear.
Lies, damned lies and Republicans.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmHe did the prudent thing by indicating that he would check on that so that he could give an accurate and truthful answer.
and this will resonate with the voters… ’cause so many people lose track of all their ‘houses, condominiums or other properties’
Keep talking GiGi!
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm“An accurate and truthful answer”?
McCain hasn’t been “accurate” or “truthful” so far, why start now?
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:59 pmgood_golly said:
But are his tires properly inflated. That’s the important thing, you know.
Actually it is the important thing. If everyone inflated their tires to the proper pressure, the effect on gas prices would be significantly greater than the effect of offshore drilling, and it could happen now, and it would cost essentially nothing, and it would reduce greenhouse gas emmisions rather than add to them.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:00 pmAnd McCain doesn’t have a gaffe daily?
I don’t know how many houses I own.
I don’t know what kind of car I drive.
I don’t speak for my own campaign.
Czechoslovakia.
Czechoslovakia (AGAIN).
Czechoslovakia (AGAIN)
Sunni and Shia working together (in Iran).
Sunni and Shia working together (in Iran) AGAIN.
One of my guys thinks Americans are a bunch of whiners.
DRAFT.
Confusing Iraq and Afghanistan.
Iraq-Pakistan Border.
Ripping off Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s “Cross in the sand” story.
Continually repeating the debunked story of suicide bombers in Iraq with Down Syndrome.
Saying he didn’t call the SCOTUS decision on Gitmo “The worst in history” when there are records that show, in fact, he did say it. Says McCain: “No I didn’t. No, no– Sometimes I’m given to a little hyperbole.”
Volunteered his wife for a topless beauty contest.
Called his wife a “Cun+” within earshot of others (or really, just called her that PERIOD)
BS on his (lack of) supposed support of MLK day.
Suggesting the Anthrax that was in the US came from Iraq. It didn’t.
“In the 21st Century, nations don’t invade other nations.”
“I would veto every single beer…”
That last one is trivial and just funny, but still…I could go on there GG…
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:00 pmGood God Good Golly, you sure do know how to split hairs, I’ll give you that.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pmupside, that’s not Gigi’s game. What she hopes to do is by ignoring all of McCain’s serious gaffes (”Surge began the Anbar Awakening”, Iraq/Pakistan border, renegotiating the Colo. River compact and on and on) and focusing only on Obama’’s slips of the tongue, she can make it appear that a side-by-side comparison is unnecessary.
Silly Gigi.
At least four times this summer, McCain’s campaign has had to essentially say “John McCain doesn’t necessarily speak for the McCain campaign”.
I don’t think saying “57 states” instead of “47 states” really rises to that level of campaign aoplogia.
Shoulda taken my advice, Gigi. You’re no good to anyone if you wipe yourself out trying to spin away reality. Go have a lie-down in the break room. We’ll say you went out for more Cheetos.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:02 pmGiGi,
Are you saying Obama is one of those 10? And McCain is not?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:03 pmHow many of the ten wealthiest Senators are Democrats?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:03 pmHow many could tell you how many houses they own… care to venture a guess?
And this means what exactly…
How many of the top ten Senators in terms of how much money they receive from lobbyists (ESPECIALLY BIG OIL) are Republicans? Care to hazard a guess?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pmGigi, Gigi, Gigi… this is what I’d hoped to avoid. I wanted to get you some rest before you were reduced to throwing out non sequiturs in a desperate attempt to change the subject.
please, Gigi, for gosh sakes, take a break. Watch judge Judy. Get your mind away from this politics for a few minutes. it’s the only way regain your footing.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pmSeriously, can someone just deliver the mercy blow here? GG is just limping along, suffering. I almost can’t bear to watch it anymore.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Will Obama drive a bicycle to the convention? Or is he flying in a gas guzzling jet?
Whoa, goof_goony handing out the “zingers” left and right today I see…pathetic.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pmJill Lawrence in Fridays USA Today (hardly a liberal rag…)
Now are you sure you wanna talk about elitism, Gigi?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pmgood_golly5 Says
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Michelle Obama drives a gas guzzling van.
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In the first place, your link doesn’t say what make or model of van Michelle Obama was driving last October when that accident took place, so we really don’t know how “gas guzzling” it is. A van is a popular choice for families with small children, and the Obamas fit that category. Most vans get better mileage than the other soccer mom choice — an SUV — but, of course, it can vary depending on the make and model.
In the second place, what in the world does this have to do with the topic?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pmAnd how many of those Senators came by their money by ditching their recently crippled spouse to grab a trophy wife/husband with uber-cash?
How many of those Senators would be able to tell you how many houses they own, what kind of car they drive etc?
How many of those Senators would have someone working for them that refers to Americans suffering from recession as “Whiners?”
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm#
good_golly5 Says:
Wow, 5 of the top 6 wealthiest Senators are Democrats:
Herb Kohl (D-Wis)
John Kerry (D-Mass)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa)
Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif)
Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI)
Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Now are you sure you want to take the position that wealth = elitism?
Anyone think that 5 out of the top 10 wealthiest are Republicans? You stink giggles.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 pmI’ve been pleading with her to sit out a series or two, just to get her bearings back.
She’s flailing away something awful, and I’m afraid she’s gonna hurt herself.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 pmFlashback: McCain didn’t know what kind of car he drove.»
… or wife.
.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pmHey GiGi,
as I said before is Obama one of the TOP 10! And is McCain? And why did you stop at the top 5?
If not, there is no relevance. This thread is not about money, it is about Johnny Boy’s inability to grasp reality; a trait I REALLY want in my next President. We have been lacking it for the past 7 1/2 years.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Heck: Obama can’t even remember what committees he’s on.
Obama Says The U.S. Senate Banking Committee Is “My Committee.” Obama: “Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill…” (Obama Press Conference, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008)
Obama Is Not A Member Of The U.S. Senate Committee On Banking, Housing, And Urban Affairs. (U.S. Senate Committee On Banking, Housing, And Urban Affairs Website, banking.senate.gov, Accessed 7/23/08)
Actually, it was a simple gaffe…McCain supporters such as yourself should be aware of those. Obama was referring to a bill he helped introduce to that committee you little jerk.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pmlet’s go easy on GG, it must be hard keeping track of all those GOP talking points…I bet she can’t even remember which ones she received today…
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:11 pmGG,
Well at least he didn’t say “We won Czechoslovakia”
You are fu(king hilarious.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 pmGigi! Stop spinning! You’re going to break the furniture!
Someone grab her! For goad sake! The humanity! The humanity!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
She’s flailing away something awful, and I’m afraid she’s gonna hurt herself.
She’s dogged, that’s for sure. Although tenacity doesn’t mean that much when you’re just regurgitating weird nonsensical “talking points.”
What list have you ever seen that counts down the Top 6 of anything?
How many times have you seen someone “drive” a bicycle – I was always taught that it was something you “rode.”
Goof_Goony# is just a poor poor excuse for a troll.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pmI’m warning you. When she stops spinning, there’s gonna be vomit all over everything…
And I’m not cleaning it up. You guys are just letting her spin.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pmGG,
Obama may have forgotten about the language differences, but at least he knows which country is which, unlike McCain.
At least he knows the difference between Sunni and Shia, unlike McCain.
At least he knows that Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border, unlike McCain.
At least he knows we NEVER SHOULD HAVE INVADED IRAQ in the first place, and that our attention needs to be in Afghanistan and Pakistan, unlike McCain.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pmAnd Cindy McCain flies around in her own jet. Geez you’re stupid.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Obama couldn’t even remember that Afghans don’t speak Arabic.
We could just move some translators from Iraq to Afghanistan across the border they share.
/snark
Gigi, you’re amazing. Not in a positive way either.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:16 pmGiGi,
Here is the complete Top 10 below. Any name related to this thread jump out at you?
Top 10 Richest Members of the Senate
06/30/2008
Figures are from 2006.
1. John Kerry (D.-Mass.) $267,789,805
2. Herb Kohl (D.-Wis.) $171,423,011
3. Edward M. Kennedy (D.-Mass.) $102,822,519
4. Jay Rockefeller (D.-W.Va.) $91,713,012
5. Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.) $79,555,657
6. Frank R. Lautenberg (D.-N.J.) $79,051,090
7. Elizabeth Dole (R.-N.C.) $43,867,072
8. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) $36,431,099
9. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) $30,691,003
10. Lamar Alexander (R.-Tenn.) $27,800,155
Damn, I hate doing her work for her, but sometimes a man just has to do waht a man has to do.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 pmLT, leave her alone for a minute. You’re gonna start her up again and she’s gonna hurt someone.
I myself was going to point out that she’s dishonestly ignoring the dozens upon dozens of far more substantive McSame McStakes and focusing on Obama slip of the tongue, but it would be cruel. She’s spun herself into exhaustion, with nothing to show for it but a McSame ‘08 Sharpie.
Let’s leave her be, let her catch her breath. Maybe someone could bring her some whatever. But be careful not to step in the throw-up.
She got it on the sofa, too. I told ya.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pmgood_golly5 Says:
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
First of all, your list is outdated. Lincoln Chafee lost his bid for re-election to Sheldon Whitehouse.
Second, I saw a list from 2003 that showed McCain as being worth only about $1.6 million. Since he married his very wealthy wife many years before that, it is clear that not all of their financial worth can be determined from the reports they have to file alone. (The reports do not require a specific number, but that the Senator choose a range in which his or her assets fall.)
And, third, you’re doing your usual straw man arguing again.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pmCareful, Wayne — there’s a puddle of vomit over by the coffee maker.
Gigi spun herself into a frenzy and hurled, just as I predicted.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pmGiGi, if you look at the list at 117, you have just proven that McDepends is not only suffering from dementia, but HE IS THE ELITIST! Where TF is Obama’ name on that list, assklown?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm#
good_golly5 Says:
There are dozens more of these, but I’ll stop for now. Talk and agree amongst yourselves with whatever the Democratic talking points of the day are. I know you are happier that way.
Actually, I take some joy in watching you totally self-destruct in a violent spin cycle. Dozens more eh? All of the ones you brought up are pretty spurious, and definitely NOT in the same league as McLameBrain’s “gaffes.”
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Have a good weekend all. Enjoy the temporary 10 point bump you’ll likely get from your convention. It’ll only last a couple of weeks, so don’t get a big head and count your electoral votes before they are hatched.
Don’t worry GG. McCain really won’t have a snowball’s chance in Hades come election time.
Stay deluded!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 pmHEY REPUGS!!
Send us a new troll, this one just blew her Chinese-built circuit board all over the thread.
You have to do a better job of Quality Control before you send them out of the bot factory!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pmgood_golly5 Says: There are dozens more of these, but I’ll stop for now.
Please do. Come back when you’ve had some sleep and can stay on topic. (As if!)
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pmSenile –
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of old age.
2. Relating to or exhibiting memory loss or mental impairment associated with aging.
3. Geology. Worn away nearly to the base level, as at the end of an erosion cycle.
Sure sounds like McCain!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pmJim Wilke, are you telling us that Obama attended a party???
Heavens no!
You’ve convinced me ! I see now that Obama is unfit for the presidency!
Thank you Jim for opening my eyes!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:38 pmI’ll bet McSame remembers his Corvette when he was stationed at NAS JAX. I know he doesn’t remember all the different women he let play with his joystick while riding around Jacksonville Beach, while his FIRST wife was 40 miles away watching the kids.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:38 pmI take the fact that McCain didn’t know what kind of car he drove because it’s not important to him. I can relate to that. People ask me how much I paid for stuff, and I never know because I don’t care about the price. I buy it because I need it or want it, and price it’s not going to make a difference. If I buy a luxury item, I may look at the price to make sure I can afford it, but once I make the decision, I don’t remember the price. This attack about McCain’s houses is the most inane attack yet.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pmOf course, Johnny Boy sure did have fun at all those drunken, debauched TailHook parties. And all that champaign he drank at Frank Keating’s and Neil Bush’s Big Doings during the S&L HeyDay!
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:42 pmJimAK Says:
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Speaking of poor memory:
Why, just weeks after winning the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 2004, would Barack Obama attend a party for a controversial Iraqi-born billionaire whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment?
In an interview Friday, Obama didn’t deny the assertion by Stuart Levine, the government’s star witness in the Rezko trial, about the party honoring Nadhmi Auchi, a British citizen who is appealing a fraud conviction in France. Obama said he didn’t recall the event.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Why would McDepends’ campaign and the old fart himself , agree to a fundraiser that was supposed to be hosted by Abramoff crony Ralph Reed this past Monday , assbag ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:46 pmI take the fact that McCain didn’t know what kind of car he drove because it’s not important to him. I can relate to that. People ask me how much I paid for stuff, and I never know because I don’t care about the price.
Yeah, but not knowing the number of houses you own or the kind of car you drive because ‘it’s not important’ seperates you and McCain from the majority of Americans who are struggling to make the payments on their first house and broken-down Taurus… and leads to people thinking that you don’t really know (or care) what you’re talking about when you say stuff like… “the fundamentals of the economy are strong.”
See how it’s gonna be an issue now?
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:49 pmListen up trollies. One more time. McCain is catching this grief because he portrayed Obama as the elitist. Get it? You’re worse than talking to two year olds.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:50 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
McDepends’ latest ad , called “Higher” , opens with the line :
“Celebrities don’t have to worry about family budgets. But we sure do.”
Who in the hell is this “we” ?
John McDepends and Cindy McPillPopper ?
The McCains increased their budget for household employees from $184,000 in 2006 to $273,000 in 2007, according to John McCain’s tax returns.
TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MAIDS AND BUTLERS ALONE !?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That is $50,000 MORE than the median value of an American HOME ; who’s the “elitist” , trolls ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pmJimAK Says:
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Speaking of poor memory:
Why, just weeks after winning the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 2004, would Barack Obama attend a party for a controversial Iraqi-born billionaire whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment?
You really want to go there? I can’t wait to compare Barack’s corrupt association’s with John McCain. Lets put both under the microscope and see which one has the ethics problem. Lets start with the Keating 5 and then take a look at those Senate Indian committee records that McCain has sequestered.
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:29 pmCindy charged more in one month than most families spend in two years, but Obama is the elitist?
“Have you seen the price of beluga caviar these days? And I paid over $500 a bottle for this Cristal! It’s absolutely outrageous! Seriously John, I don’t know how the little people do it. Do they just eat caviar one night of the week or what?”
I with you on this one Ralph, GG is going to spew chunks at this rate. At least the smell of puke will mask the acrid sweat smell of fear and desperation.
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pmCould it possibly, perhaps, maybe it’s a
C A N Y O N E R O!!!
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pmI REALLY Gotta wonder when WAS the last time McIIIrd did the breakfast, lunch or dinner dishes.
How about anybody on the thread answering that for yourself for me. I’ll start.
Last night, dinner dishes.
August 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pmThe question is not whether or not the Obamas are a two-car family—but just what McCain can and cannot remember. The difference between Sunni and Shia is important. Whether or not Iran is training al Qaeda is important. BTW, Obama was right, al Qaeda in Afghanistan speaks Arabic.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pmAnyone who cannot remember how many houses they own, or what car they drive, is absolutely, positively elitist — too much money to care. Or, if not, they are well into dementia and can’t remember most things. Either way, McCain is not ready to lead.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:36 pmIt just keeps coming back and coming back and coming back.
Are you out for a night on the town or what, Gigi? I’m sure your furry troll friends are tired of getting the runaround.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:46 pmHe GG;
From Politico’s own website
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12685.html
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said in an interview Wednesday that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own.
“I think — I’ll have my staff get to you,” McCain told Politico in Las Cruces, N.M. “It’s condominiums where — I’ll have them get to you.”
Listen Here:
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:30 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Wealth does not = elitist.
Elitism is an Obama state of mind, thinking he is better than everyone else because he is the Messiah. Or as Jessie Jackson put it: “talkin’ down to black people.”
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While in the minds of some (hint… hint…) wealth may not equal elitist, for McCain to be calling Obama the elitist is just patently absurd.
Oh, wait… you were being FUNNY, or trying to… too bad the 1/2 Hr News Hr is gone… you coulda been somebody… or something… or some what…
BTW, would you consider the Bush Family elitist?
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Wealth does not = elitist.
I agree. But lets look at McCain’s elitist tax policies, shall we? You, GG, will do better under Obama. Sadly, you are too stupid to figure this out.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/22/33924/5505/123/572458
Another moron, voting against their best interests. But at least GG is willing to show how much of a moron he/she is. You deserve a special recognition of dumbness.
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:05 pmgood_golly5 Says:
No he did not say there WERE 57 states here is Snopes take on it.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
The actual intent behind Senator Obamas misstatement is easy to discern… he was trying to express the fact that in all the time he had spent on the campaign trail so far in 07-08 he had visited all 48 of the states in the continental US save one (that is one left to go excluding Alaska and Hawai’i but in his weariness he started off with 50 instead of 40 watch the video and notice the long pause between 50 and 7.
So to the non hiveminders of the world it was a slip of the tongue which is MILES from not knowing how many homes he has or what kind of car he drives that isnt even apples and oranges its gnats and blue whales. Does anyone think the former editor of Harvard law review doesnt know there are 50 states as opposed to graduated third from the bottom of his class at the Naval academy? That was weak.
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:38 pmCan you see her? Judy Garland in her red shoes, clicking her heels and repeating the mantra: “There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home.” Voila! She wakes up in her very own little bed in her very own little shack out on her very own little Kansas farm, surrounded by family and farm hands, all safe and sound. Kitsch doesn’t get any more All-American than that.
August 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 amWhat would happen, do you think, if John McCain clicked his heels together and mumbled, “There’s no place like home”? Apparently he might wake up in any one of about eight different places. I’ll bet none of the eight is located in Kansas.
Obama hopes to make political hay out of McCain’s inability to remember exactly how many houses he has. This is reminiscent of the elder George Bush’s expression of amazement about bar codes in a local supermarket during the 1992 campaign. Both gaffs make the candidate seem out of touch.
Obama boasts of having only one home. He hasn’t mentioned that his crib set him back a reported $1.65 million. That amount just about equaled the Obamas’ combined income for the year they made the purchase. The Chicago Tribune reported in November 2006, “They were drawn to a 96-year-old Georgian revival home that has four fireplaces, glass-door bookcases fashioned from Honduran mahogany, and a 1,000-bottle wine cellar, according to real estate listings and an interview.”
Obama’s book deals and his wife’s $300,000 a year vice presidency with Chicago University Hospitals together accounted for their seven-figure gross annual income.
Well, heck, Olympian Mike Phelps is expected to gross $30 million in product endorsements during the year ahead. So what’s the big deal about Obama and spouse pulling down $1.67 mil? Phelps no doubt will start accumulating real estate, too.
Meanwhile, he’s taking some heat for adding Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes to his list of clients. Writes one web pundit, “The deal has earned Phelps harsh criticism from some doctors, such as nutritionist Rebecca Solomon of Mount Sanai Medical Center. In a Daily News article posted this morning, Solomon said, ‘I would not consider Frosted Flakes the food of an Olympian.’ That’s the understatement of the day. I would consider Frosted Flakes to be the food of a generation of obese, diabetic, ADHD kids who need real role models they can follow, not sellout junk food promoters who trade fame for unethical profits.” (http://www.naturalnews.com/023914.html)
This guy’s rap on fatties reminds me of the last time McCain got into trouble, but not for anything he said. A McCain advisor, Phil Gramm, created the flap by calling America “a nation of whiners.” Well, sorry folks, but I tend to agree that the overweight whiner has become an American archetype. If the shoe fits (and the pants don’t), I say wear it.
But let’s stop whining for a minute here and take a reality break. McCain is rich. Obama is rich. Even a kid, whose only apparent distinction is the ability to move from one end of a swimming pool to the other faster than anybody else, is rich. If you’re rich, too, then more power to you.
The simple truth is, ain’t no poor folks likely to run for president, or senator, or most any other important post. The last poor president, I guess, was Harry Truman. As a sitting U.S. Senator seeking reelection, Truman sometimes slept in his car while on the campaign trail. Once upon a time he had gone bankrupt. When his term in the White House was over, he and wife Bess moved back to the home in Independence Missouri that they had shared for years with her mother.
They just don’t make ‘em like old Harry any more, folks. Senator Obama may play the “poor mouth” card against Senator McCain, but in reality his feet are just as firmly planted on the Yellow Brick Road as are his opponent’s.
[Jim Castagnera is the Associate Provost and Associate Counsel at Rider University. He is writing his 14th book, about terrorism’s impact on higher education, for Praeger.]
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