What is the carbon footprint of McCain’s homes?
By on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
What is the carbon footprint of McCain’s homes?
Climate Progress’ Joe Romm wonders how big is the carbon footprint of John McCain’s numerous houses. “I’d estimate it’s about 150 tons of carbon dioxide, some 10 times that of the average American,” writes Romm, a climate researcher who has a Ph.D. in physics. The right wing is often quick to criticize Al Gore for his household energy consumption, despite the fact that Gore has taken numerous steps to reduce his carbon footprint. A. Siegel asks, “Should we wait with bated breath for someone in the McCain campaign’s media entourage to ask John the question as to whether he (actually, Cindy … since she pays the bills) is purchasing 100 percent renewable power?”
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“Should we wait with bated breath for someone in the McCain campaign’s media entourage to ask John the question as to whether he (actually, Cindy … since she pays the bills) is purchasing 100 percent renewable power?”
The answer will be “no”. McNumbNuts and his trophy bimbo are oblivious to such mundane and trivial things.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pmI can guarantee that some of the energy McCain uses is renewable. All the gas he spouts has to come from someplace other than a gas well, most of it from his various orifices.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:06 pmdemkiller Says:
Gore has a large footprint…he is a hypocrite, simple as that…
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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No he doesn’t, and no he isn’t. Al Gore’s house is one of the most energy-efficient in Tennessee. The talking point about Gore being a hypocrite is just science denier fiction.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm“But, but, but, my friends, I spent 5 1/2 years in the Hanoi Hilton, my friends, and trust me, my friends, there was not much energy being used there, my friends.”
PEACE
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:12 pm“What is the carbon footprint of McCain’s homes?”
– - What is the relevance to the average voter? This is how the Democrats get labeled by the GOP as out-of-touch with “average” Americans because it sounds esoteric and elitist. Is it important? Sure, but not in getting elected.
KISS, Democrats. (Keep It Simple Stupid.) It’s what the American voter understands best.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:13 pmspencers mom Says:
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 pm“But, but, but, my friends, I spent 5 1/2 years in the Hanoi Hilton, my friends, and trust me, my friends, there was not much energy being used there, my friends.”
You know I can actually hear him saying that.
So will those hard nosed journalist at Faux News dare to be different and ask the old man,what is his carbon footprint… or are they just going to protect him and rip into Gore who as #4 pointed out has the most green house in Tenn. and his 10 year plan will work.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 pmgigi is up to 5 today, i guess once it hits 10 she’ll finally go away becuase it will run out of fingers to count on.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:15 pmgoon_folly v.5.0-
I’m pretty sure that Al Gore, if you asked him, knows how many homes he owns. McCrappedmypants, not so much.
Try again goony-googoo
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pmgood_golly5 Says:
Surely AlGore is a god, part of the (un)holy trinity along with Obama the Messiah and Kennedy himself. How dare you speak his name in vain?
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiight… more silly, overheated hyperbole. Why don’t you try, juuuuuust once, making a “real point”? It will be uncomfortable at first, but ultimately, you might find it refreshing.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pmTo Hell with the carbon footprint…McCondo needs to be carbon dated.
Carbon dating will actually show McCondo is 14,000 yrs old.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pmI’m sure Al knows how many homes he has, unlike grampy. And it’s not the amount of homes as much as it is that he needs his staff to keep track of them gigi, but you knew that already. By the way, why isnt grampy an elitist? he started cheating on his first wife while he was in Hawaii and that’s where he and his dope fiend bride spent their honeymoon.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:18 pmBobwurst Says:
gigi is up to 5 today, i guess once it hits 10 she’ll finally go away becuase it will run out of fingers to count on.
She gets extra McStain Points every time she gets banned. TrickleDick, too.
PEACE
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:18 pmWhen any of the trolls hits version 10 they win an all expense paid trip to the tropical island of their choice and Senator Larry Craig as their personal tour guide and companion. Keep reaching for the stars Goony Goo Goo!
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmgoo-goo; you really need to do something about all that sh!t you are full of. Give yourself an emergency enema-with a hand grenade.
Oh, and be sure to stand downwind of us here.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmYes, it is time to rub McCain’s face in it. McCain was nothing more than a pandering treasonous coward. McCain who broke after only four days in enemy hands and went on to make a propaganda film for our enemies. McCain who made more than 30 propagand tapes for the North Vietnamese. McCain who won the nick name of “songbird McCain” from his fellow POW’s.
McCain has shown exactly what he is when he dumped his disabled wife to rut in the dirt with Cindy Whore, a pampered, rich drug adict. Yes, McCain takes advantage of his whore wife’s money to make his career.
Come on good_golly, justify your worship for a coward, a traitor and a whore lover.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 pmI think the problem Rev. Al was his largly hypocritical lifestyle. He was going around the country telling people how they should change their way of living, while his house is sitting on a Zinc Mine adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 pmGiving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives. McCain has not exploited the American public with propaganda.
good_golly5 the idiot Says:
Did you forget to mention that AlGore and his wife own more than one home? oops.
So what? I have 3 houses, at least I can count them.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:23 pmdemkiller Says:
He uses 20x the national average…..where is the efficiency?.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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The snopes article you cite is outdated. Gore has spent a ton of money renovating the house to make it energy-efficient, and offsets the remaining energy use by buying solar and wind power and purchasing carbon credits. Try something more recent:
I’d say Gore is practicing what he preaches.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:28 pmACME_Democrat Says:
McCain has not exploited the American public with propaganda.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
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Climate science is not propaganda. Repeatedly yelling that “the surge is working” despite all evidence to the contrary is propaganda.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:30 pmThis is waaaaaay too good to pass up. My apologies if it has already been posted elsewhere:
Heard Any Good “John McCain’s Got a Lot of Houses” Jokes?
RJ Eskow
Me neither. So I made up a few. Try some of your own — and yes, I know he may have more than seven houses. Some say it’s as many as twelve. He doesn’t know. But don’t you think seven’s a funnier number? So here we go (with apologies to the memory of Joey Adams.)
Boy, does that John McCain have a lot of houses. Lemme tell ya … If they were all in one place he’d be Cleveland.
What? John McCain doesn’t know how many houses he owns? Can’t he ask Joe Lieberman?
Know what else? John McCain doesn’t know if any of his houses share a border with Pakistan.
Now his campaign is saying Cindy does all the house-buying so he can’t be expected to know. What a sexist! He makes his wife do all the shopping!
John McCain’s dog is so fat that when it sits around the house, it sits around … (Oh, wait, he has seven houses so this joke doesn’t work. He’d have to have a whole pack of dogs. I’ll get back to you on the dog joke.)
Don’t blame McCain. He couldn’t resist that “buy six mansions, get one free” sale at Countrywide.
Hey, didja hear? John McCain has so many houses they’re giving him his own monopoly board!
Seven houses? That’s one for every day of the week! What a coincidence! I’ve got a ‘Friday’ house, too. That’s because Friday’s payday … and it takes my whole check just to keep it.
John McCain’s getting an unfair rap for buying all those houses. Come on, now! He needed SOMEPLACE to put all those swimming pools!
Hey, remember that horrible “joke” about putting Cindy in the topless beauty contest? I hear he was really in the “dog houses” after that. (Sorry … still can’t nail the dog joke.)
The McCains have a lovely needlepoint their realtor sent them. It says “Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home.”
As John McCain likes to say, there are no places like home.
Hey, I know it SOUNDS bad. But they needed someplace to put all those lobbyists!
They don’t count the motor home because it’s only got four bathrooms and there’s nowhere for the gardeners to sleep.
I hear that the McCains are doing a vacation house-swap with the Romneys. Sure, it’ll take seven trips, but then they won’t be very busy next year anyway.
Knock knock knock knock knock knock knock. Who’s there? John McCain’s mansions.
If a man’s home is his castle, then John McCain’s got the whole chess set!
Seven houses? That barely fits the twenty thousand bikers he promised could “crash” at his “pads” if they cheered for him.
Dog joke: John McCain thinks every home should have a dog. So he bought the Iditarod dogsled team.
- and my final boy-does-that-John McCain-have-a-lot-of-houses joke:
Hey, John McCain can’t remember how many houses he has! It’s not his fault, though. He had the number written down but he left it in his other plane.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:31 pmgigi is up to 5 today, i guess once it hits 10 she’ll finally go away becuase it will run out of fingers to count on.
We should be so lucky. But I think she’ll just take off her shoes so she’ll be here until gg20.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:34 pmAre you sure that’s wise, TRoS? I’m concerned about Gigi throwing her back out or popping a hammy.
Could be dangerous.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:35 pmDon’t listen to ‘em, Gigi! We’re all rootin’ for ya to overtook TripleKick.
You’ll have to ramp up your game, but we know you can do it!
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 pmHere’s an example of the real concern McCain has about the environment and climate change. No doubt, he doesn’t even know what the hell a “carbon footprint” is.
McCain, who huddled with advisors at his desert compound in Sedona, Ariz., said nothing in public. A nine-car motorcade took him to a nearby Starbucks early in the morning, where he ordered a large cappuccino. McCain otherwise avoided reporters.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-na-campaign22-2008aug22,0,1254408.story
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:38 pmYa know, Ralphie… it’d certainly have its own entertainment value, no?
Ever see someone, or thing, struggle to say something s/he, or it, doesn’t want to?
How their face contorts as they fight to NOT SAY IT?
I kinda imagine g-g5 going thru that… and it’s kinda amusing, huh?
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pmdemkiller Says:
Ok, so he changed his hypocrisy after valid criticism…
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Hypoctir or otherwise, he did do it… didn’t he?
Try making a “real. point.”… it will probably be difficult at first, but eventually it will get easier.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:41 pmWhat is the carbon footprint of McCain’s homes?
I’m not exactly sure , but I have a feeling it comes close to matching the amount of bullshit that flies out of his stupid , yellow-dentured mouth………..
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:57 pmWhen the McCain calculation is made, I would like to see it compared with John and Elizabeth Edwards’ NC mansion.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 pmrunning_man Says:
What about the Zinc Mine??????????
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What about it?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-18-goremine_n.htm
Environmentalist Gore allowed zinc mine
By Bill Theobald, Gannett News Service
CARTHAGE, Tenn. — Al Gore has profited from zinc mining that has released millions of pounds of potentially toxic substances near his farmstead, but there is NO EVIDENCE the mine has caused serious damage to the environment in the area or threatened the health of his neighbors.
Need to define the phrase “NO EVIDENCE” for you?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:01 pmwhy are they running for president?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 pmdemkiller Says:
Ok, so he changed his hypocrisy after valid criticism…
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
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No, he was making the changes to his house long before the “valid” criticism. In fact, one of the reasons for the very high electric bills at the time this story broke last year was because the house was being renovated at the time and the construction crews were using more power than the house would normally consume.
So it’s not hypocrisy at all. It’s leading by example.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 pmHey rogerse, we know you’re back. Like any other day, the call for you to shut the f uck up stands.
What day do you think this is? Friday?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pmHmmmm,
McCondo & Willard each own 7 houses.
14 houses between the two of them.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:10 pmIf that’s not elitism, WTF is?
Bartolo Says:
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When the McCain calculation is made, I would like to see it compared with John and Elizabeth Edwards’ NC mansion.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Have you and McDepends compared your IQ’s recently ?
Not only are they similar , added together , the numbers don’t reach triple digits………..
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:11 pmYou must have misunderstood.
TRoS was not suggesting that Zinc is not toxic.
He quoted a news article that said there was no evidence that the mine has caused serious damage to the environment in the area or threatened the health of his neighbors.
I understand how this may have confused you.
but try to imagine a scenario where a) zinc is still toxic and b) a zinc mine did not cause serious damage to the environment.
See? it’s not that hard!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:21 pmACME_Democrat Says:
“McCain has not exploited the American public with propaganda.”
Maybe the troll forgot back in October of 2001 when McCain was on Letterman propagandizing the Iraq/anthrax link and suggesting that al queda was just phase one and that Iraq will be phase two. Let me also remind you of the whole “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” BS. You don’t think McCain was part of that pr push? Stick your head back in the sand, troll. Or you can face a little honest reality you un-patriotic POS, McCain is and has been a large part of Bush’s well known propaganda effort since DIRECTLY after 9/11
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:26 pmButtholo Says:
“When the McCain calculation is made, I would like to see it compared with John and Elizabeth Edwards’ NC mansion.”
Whoa! Edwards? Where the hell did that come from?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:27 pmSure you don’t mean the Clinton’s?
ralph the wonder llama Says:
running_man Says:
The Progressive Movement of Stupidity Says:
So some environmental damage is ok?
You must have misunderstood.
TRoS was not suggesting that Zinc is not toxic.
He quoted a news article that said there was no evidence that the mine has caused serious damage to the environment in the area or threatened the health of his neighbors.
I understand how this may have confused you.
but try to imagine a scenario where a) zinc is still toxic and b) a zinc mine did not cause serious damage to the environment.
See? it’s not that hard!
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Thanks Ralph. I missed dim watt’s reply.
Perhaps someone should ask “Mr Science” why the Botch Admin wanted to allow higher levels of arsenic in drinking water, or didn’t want to lower the levels of mercury contamination in rivers and lakes due to coal burning, while yer at it.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:31 pmThe trolls worry about the Zinc toxicity that hasn’t been found on Gore’s property but they don’t care about the depleted uranium weapons in Iraq. Typical.
“Depleted Uranium Radiation in Iraq Equals 250,000 Nagasaki Bombs”
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:34 pmIs it my imagination, or have the trolls’ arguments been getting steadily weaker and less relevant?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:37 pmSo you’re suggesting big old houses should be torn down and replaced with new ones. Yeah, THAT will conserve resources. You really are dumber than a box of rocks. No wonder you can’t understand the concept of global climate change.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:38 pmWeaker indeed ralph. They’re rearranging deck chairs while the ship is sinking.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:39 pmHey, Good_Golly has ten toes as well, that is if they can see or touch them.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:41 pmTrace, you do understand the difference between an opinion column and a news report, don’t you? Don’t you?
And let’s face it, even linking to a news report (which you didn’t do) from 2006 isn’t really the best way to make a contemporary argument, unless you’re referencing 2006 in said argument.
Face it, Tracy, your ammo on this question has gotten wet and it won’t fire. If you need to make yourself feel better, why don’t you just go masturbate and leave us alone?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pmTracy__5 Says:
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“Al Gore’s house is one of the most energy-efficient in Tennessee.”
Are you kidding? Even for all of the LEED credits he got for renovating it the fact is that the mansion is 80 years old which negates many efficiencies that it would otherwise have if he did it right and built a new house on the same property.
BTW how large is it?
http://www.usatoday.com/ news/ opinion/ editorials/ 2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm
BTW how many home does Gore own?
Three. One in Nashville, TN(main residence), another 4,000 sq. ft. house in Arlington, VA, and one in Carthridge, TN (I think this one was his father’s house).
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
THREE(3) is still less than SEVEN(7) , even in GOP liar world , isn’t it ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pmTROLL INFESTATION ALERT
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:44 pmOne thing for sure, these country club conservatives are in no way conservative.
I was reading about a real conservative, John Muir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Muir
And Im pretty sure he wouldnt advocate drilling in ANWR unlike todays pseudo-cons.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:48 pmdemkiller Says:
Gore has a large footprint…he is a hypocrite, simple as that…
Why yes indeed, you and the other trolls are simple as that.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmIt is Al Gore, not McCain who’s out there cashing in on global warming fears. Does Gore’s carbon footprint firm “Generation Investment Management” mean anything to you? Of course since Gore is not living by the same energy standards that he’s preaching to the rest of us, then he’s gonna be called on it and rightly humiliated. However, questioning McCain’s “carbon footprint” is senseless and comes off as more whining from Faiz and the rest of TP’s sad clowns.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmMcWars Says:
“TROLL INFESTATION ALERT”
Not to worry. Facts are very effective at eradicating the filthy little bastards.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmWhat makes you think I was disputing that Gore owns three homes?
I’m not even sure why you guys think that is an issue.
Trace, you really haven’t established a rep here for accuracy and truthfulness, nor for honesty in your arguments. Might have something to do with your over-reliance on false talking points and bad logic.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:51 pmTripleKick 13 Says:
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Tracy__5 Says:
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I rest my case.
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:58 pmTracy, why don’t you go masturbate and leave us alone?
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:59 pmMcWars, for trolls TP is Summer Camp.
Plus, they’re piling up posts to qualify for that official McCain Campaign Back Scratcher.
They bring nothing to the table but links to opinion pieces, copy-and-pasted rumors, and outright lies. In short, GOP SOP.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pmAmen to that, Freep. I don’t understand how they manage to keep both hands free, typing and petting their Sock Obama at the same time. It’s right in their lap at log-in.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:19 pmHeh. Maybe they ran out of Cheetos and Mr. Pibb.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmYou know, except cutting down on consumption and living a more humble lifestyle.
from:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22248699/
11 WHOLE %? Wow. So now he only uses 17.8 times the electricity of the average person. (According to the article it was 12 times the average in Nashville. Now it’s only 10.9 times the average.)
11% I tell ya, he practices what he preaches.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm